rfermat30@yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 00:01:48 -0400 Reply-To: N Knight Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: N Knight Subject: Parts kit Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed At one time HP had a parts kit with feet, screws, etc. for the hp200lx. Anyone know if this kit is still available or is it history? _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 00:02:54 -0400 Reply-To: N Knight Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: N Knight Subject: RPN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed What is RPN? I keep seeing reference to this but have no idea what it is. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 21:13:46 -0700 Reply-To: dmp24@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David M Peterson Subject: FS: Connectivity kit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good day, I have another 100lx/200lx connectivity kit. This is the F1021B. This is the newer version. I will let it go for $25 plus shipping. This includes The box, 3 diskettes, manuals, serial cable, 95lx adapter to cable, 4 adapters. I will ship worldwide. Priority mail for US is $6.00. Global Priority is $9.00. First person to respond gets it. Preferred payment is Paypal. Please reply just to me, not list. Thanks! David Peterson dmp24@juno.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 13:06:21 -0500 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: GPS flashcard useful for HP/LX? Comments: To: furlan@gmx.net In-Reply-To: <3D6FAD9D.2382.298D168@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 17:38:37 +0200, you wrote: >I recently found this: >http://www.pretec.com/index2/product/Mobile_peripherals/CompactGPS.htm > >does anybody know the device and if it could be useful in a HP200? > >cheers, >Werner I haven't used it but heck yeah it would be useful in the LX. Instead of carrying around some bulky handheld gps and connecting to the slow serial port just plug it into the pcmcia port and away you go. It'll need two things to be effective. A driver for the card and mapping software. If the current usage is accurate it'll drain the batteries like an old flash card so battery life should still be good using it. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 10:19:13 +0200 Reply-To: Matthias Paul Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Matthias Paul Organization: Aachen University of Technology (RWTH), Germany Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2002-09-01, Barry wrote: >> The DR-DOS multitasker virtualizes a VGA card and graphical DOS >> applications can continue to run in background. However, it only >> supports standard VGA resolutions and some VESA modes up to >> 800x600 (most VESA modes won't work at all and will cause the >> screen to get distorted when bringing a domain back to the >> foreground). Hicolor modes won't work as well. > > The computer I'm concerned with has a 640x480 screen and that's > the only sensible resolution for it. It can also only support > 16 colors in VGA, which is the standard VGA mode This should work fine. (There is a small bug in the implementation of the virtual VGA's write mode 3 (not video mode 3, that is ;-), but since this special mode of operation exists only on the VGA, not the EGA, it is rarely used. Anyway, the only negative effect would be a distorted screen contents, the application will continue to run, of course. Graphical applications running in the foreground will be attached to the true VGA, so all resolutions (even SVGA and VESA stuff) will be available - you should just avoid to switch them into background before existing graphics mode, then.) Greetings, Matthias --=20 ; http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html; http://mpaul.drdos.org "Programs are poems for computers." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 10:25:29 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: RPN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 03h36m ago N Knight wrote: > What is RPN? I keep seeing reference to > this but have no idea what it is. Reverse Polish Notation. You don't write a mathematical expression as 1 + 2 but rather as 1 2 + This makes parentheses superfluous, because you can nest these expressions to infinite level but it is still clear which operator belongs to which operands. (1 + 2) * 5 would become 1 2 + 5 * I think. I'm sure someone else can explain better than me. GTX danel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 10:29:33 +0200 Reply-To: Michel Bel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michel Bel Subject: Re: Parts kit Comments: To: N Knight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Special kits I have none, but lots of spare parts except battery covers and 100% screens. Even some complete 200LX's ( manuals, cable) in good condition, with well glued hinge cracks. Contact me off-list for questions. Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: "N Knight" To: Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 6:01 AM Subject: Parts kit > At one time HP had a parts kit with feet, > screws, etc. for the hp200lx. Anyone know > if this kit is still available or is it > history? > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 11:47:26 +0100 Reply-To: Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Mapblast no more available for outside applications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Yes, I'm afraid this is likely the end of my lxmapblast site. > Mapblast was the last place I knew that wasn't using some > complex encoding scheme in their urls. Oh well, it's been almost > 2 years. That was a good run. It is indeed very sad as I got used to have Gardown format files from = your website to upload to my Garmin GPS. \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 07:55:46 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: RPN Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich , Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 1 Sep 2002 at 10:25, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > 03h36m ago N Knight wrote: > > > What is RPN? I keep seeing reference to > > this but have no idea what it is. > > Reverse Polish Notation. > You don't write a mathematical expression as > > 1 + 2 > but rather as > 1 2 + I would modify this to read: 1 ENTER 2 + Just in order to make it clear that the 1 and 2 are separate entries and how multi-digit numbers would be used. > > This makes parentheses superfluous, because you can nest these > expressions to infinite level but it is still clear which operator > belongs to which operands. > > (1 + 2) * 5 > > would become > > 1 2 + 5 * This would become 1 ENTER 2 + 5 * > > I think. > I'm sure someone else can explain better than me. > Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 08:38:07 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: RPN Comments: To: N Knight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "N Knight" To: Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 11:02 PM Subject: RPN > What is RPN? I keep seeing reference to > this but have no idea what it is. Here's a link to a good explanation of RPN. http://www.hpmuseum.org/rpn.htm Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 11:13:19 EDT Reply-To: AHA2K@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: AHA2K@AOL.COM Subject: Continuous beep MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is the reason for the continuous, shrill beep coming from the palmtop that only quiets slightly when the main batteries are removed, is unchanged when connected to the adapter, and only stops when all power sources are removed from the machine? This has happened to me twice in the last 4 years. The data came up for a second when I powered up, then blinked off followed by that awful tone. Adam in NYC Lost CPACK years ago, praying over an 8mb Maxtor card, and looking for help. Also, just recently, after thinking all data was lost on my type 2 card, while playing with it, I accidentally reloaded the driver, I think, and all the data in my card came back! Happy day. TIA, Adam ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 10:25:58 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: RPN In-Reply-To: <003901c251bc$e22b8680$8f0d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Barry wrote: > Here's a link to a good explanation of RPN. > > http://www.hpmuseum.org/rpn.htm That's an *excellent* description, thanks. The technique of using the T register to keep the stack filled with a constant was a new one to me--one I'll use, too! -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 17:30:09 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: HP200LX connected to Flex-Memory of ME45? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Uli 20h01m ago Uli Allen wrote: > Is there a chance to connect the HP200LX to the > "Flex-Memory" of a Siemens phone e.g. ME45? > On a Windows computer the phone memory appears as a drive > in the explorer if connected. > Though very small (400kBytes) it would be useful to reach > that memory. I have no idea how this memory is accessed on Windows systems, but try to find a complete AT command set for the ME45, maybe the memory can be accessed via AT commands, then it would also be accessable from the LX (using a terminal emulation ofor example). GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 12:25:03 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: RPN Comments: To: Theodore Heise MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theodore Heise" To: Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 10:25 AM Subject: Re: RPN > On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Barry wrote: > > > Here's a link to a good explanation of RPN. > > > > http://www.hpmuseum.org/rpn.htm > > That's an *excellent* description, thanks. The technique of using > the T register to keep the stack filled with a constant was a new > one to me--one I'll use, too! I read this page some time ago but the calculator I used was the 48 and I never stopped to think how this was different. I just read it. I didn't try any of it. At the bottom of the page is a link to a page that explains the difference in RPN and RPL, Rpl is what I was used to and when I went to see what you meant about the T register I also found that and now I see why non-HP48 calculators always seemed a little confusing to me. I first learned RPN in Forth and then on the HP48 and they're about the same and I just thougt that was RPN. So, thanks for thanking me. You pushed me into learning something useful too. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 23:29:34 -0400 Reply-To: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O Subject: Re: GPS flashcard useful for HP/LX? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would never buy a pretec product. I bought a flashcard from them once = and it was junk.. by design, it was not a lemon as others have said the = same thing. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu]On Behalf Of > John Musielewicz > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 1:06 PM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: GPS flashcard useful for HP/LX? >=20 >=20 > On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 17:38:37 +0200, you wrote: >=20 > >I recently found this: > = >http://www.pretec.com/index2/product/Mobile_peripherals/CompactGPS.htm > > > >does anybody know the device and if it could be useful in a HP200? > > > >cheers, > >Werner >=20 > I haven't used it but heck yeah it would be useful in the LX. Instead > of carrying around some bulky handheld gps and connecting to the slow > serial port just plug it into the pcmcia port and away you go. It'll > need two things to be effective. A driver for the card and mapping > software. If the current usage is accurate it'll drain the batteries > like an old flash card so battery life should still be good using it. >=20 > John >=20 > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >=20 >=20 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 00:30:57 -0400 Reply-To: Katherine Wasserman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Katherine Wasserman Subject: Re: Parts kit In-Reply-To: <20020902035507.BFA2C23009@mercury2.bestweb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The parts kit is product number F1216-60998 and HP still sells them for $21.00. "Palmtop maintenance kit - Includes: 2 battery doors, 4 hinge caps, 2 I/O doors, 8 rubber feet, 2 ID nameplates, 3 screws, and 2 backup battery trays" Here's the place to order it: http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/main?partsrch=F1216-60998&sel_flg=parti nfo&template=secondary -Katie >Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 00:01:48 -0400 >From: N Knight >Subject: Parts kit >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >At one time HP had a parts kit with feet, >screws, etc. for the hp200lx. Anyone know >if this kit is still available or is it >history? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 07:38:23 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Parts kit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Katie 51m ago Katherine Wasserman wrote: > "Palmtop maintenance kit - Includes: 2 battery doors, 4 hinge caps, 2 = I/O > doors, 8 rubber feet, 2 ID nameplates, 3 screws, and 2 backup battery = trays" I bought a parts kit some years ago, which included only about half the parts, and AFAIR no screws. Seems HP have too many parts left and want to get rid of them. BTW: What do you mean with I/O door? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 07:38:25 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Continuous beep MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Adam 14h11m ago AHA2K@AOL.COM wrote: > What is the reason for the continuous, shrill beep coming from the = palmtop > that only quiets slightly when the main batteries are removed, is = unchanged > when connected to the adapter, and only stops when all power sources = are > removed from the machine? Is this an upgraded machine? How old? Did you drop it on the floor? I have seem palmtops beep if as you describe there is something wrong with a connection of CPU or memory. Can you open the palmtop and look what's up? If there is a memory daughterboard (which is also the case on some native 2MB and all 4MB machines), if may just not be safely pressed into its socket anymore. Or there is a short-circuit somewhere between the CPU pins, which you can blow away with compressed air, a little bit of metal dirt is enough to cause a short. Maybe http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair and http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair/dismantle.shtml can help you. > Lost CPACK years ago, praying over an 8mb Maxtor card, and looking for = help. > Also, just recently, after thinking all data was lost on my type 2 = card, > while playing with it, I accidentally reloaded the driver, I think, and = all > the data in my card came back! Happy day. Usualy and power-failure or whatever causes data loss on the RAm drive does not affect the flash card. However, Avi reported that he also lost flash card contents once. I think it was never clear why. Good luck daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 09:28:10 +0200 Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?sir=20jo?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?iso-8859-1?q?sir=20jo?= Subject: SW for IR connection with Timeport? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello to everybody, is there any DOS sw which allows the connection of the HP200-LX with a Motorola Timeport L7089 via the Infrared link ? Thanks in advance and best regards Sergio ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Musica: notizie, recensioni, classifiche, speciali multimediali http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.music.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 09:54:11 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: RPN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > I'm sure someone else can explain better than me. Don't know about better, but more long-winded, that's me. Let's look at 1 + 2. Mathematically this is a function of two variables. Polish notation takes this up and would write it just as the functions like sin etc. are written, thus it would become +(1,2). This still looks quite sensible to humans. At a time when hardware was more expensive than gold and bracket entry hard to implement, they found the reverse of this polish notation easy to implement. Thus it would become (1,2)+ or for entry into the machine <1><2><+>. With brackets the machine has to sort out the stack levels, with RPN it fobs off the more tedious bits to the human, but I, as you will have gathered, am not a fan. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 10:37:57 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: SW for IR connection with Timeport? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sergie 01h02m ago sir jo wrote: > is there any DOS sw which allows the connection of the > HP200-LX with a Motorola Timeport L7089 via the > Infrared link ? Depends on what you want to do. First, the timeport uses the IrDA protocol and the HP palmtops use HPSIR, which is only a subset of IrDA (to be precise: The physical layer of IrDA). So you need a program which enables the IR port of the palmtop to speak IrDA. There are currently two ways to enable IrDA on the palmtop to speak to a mobile phone: WWW/LX by D&A Software, a commercial software package including everything you need for Internet access: a web browser, an mail client, a news client, frp. finger, get and lots of other good stuff. Or IR.EXE by Andreas Garzotto (also the author of WWW/LX, but IR.EXE is free). This one lets you exchange so-called OBEX data between palmtop and phone, i.e. you can exchange vcards (phone book entries), vcals (calendar entries) and maybe other stuff. Here are links: D&A Software: http://www.dasoft.com Additional WWW/LX info: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/wwwlx IrDA / palmtop info: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ir_dev IrDA / palmtop / phone info: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx Good luck daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 12:05:56 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: SW for IR connection with Timeport? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sergio, I take this on-list again since it could be of interest to others, too. 52m ago sir jo wrote: > Thanks a lot for the usefull info Daniel, actually I > wanted just to operate via hp the phone for directory > entries This can on most phones be done via AT commands, WWW/LX can also be used as a terminal emulation via IrDA, ans since for AT commands and phone book entries the data to be transmitted is not much, you can even use the free trial version of WWW/LX, which is limited to 16kB transfer = per online session. This is enough for hundereds of phone book entries. Check my program PDB2PHN which is part of the PDB2X package. It converts 200LX phone book entries into a list format which can be read by PHONE.SCR. The latter is a Robot/LX script for transfering phone book entries to/from a mobile phone. Robot/LX runs under WWW/LX. However, PHONE.SCR has not been tested with a Motorola Timeport, I think. But if it doesn't work, learn the Robot/LX programming language and adapt PHONE.SCR to your needs. But probably it will work without modification. So download WWW/LX, Robot/LX and PDB2X, this should be enough to manage your phone book entries on the phone using the LX. > and to write and send SMS. ...and download POSTPDU, which is an SMS plugin for Post/LX, the WWW/LX email client, and, if you want a convenient GUI, also download Post/LX. Since an SMS can only be 160 characters long, the 16kB per online run in = the free trial version will still be sufficient, even for many SMSs. And the restrictions of Post/LX's trial version, which is 1 email down/upload per run, I think, does not matter, because when you send/receive SMS, you don't use the Post/LX built-in send/receive mechanisms, but the external ones of POSTPDU. So the onle restriction is really the 16kB one of WWW/LX. You will find links to all needed programs on http://www.palmtop.net in the S.U.P.E.R. archive. This all sounds complicated, but it actually isn't that difficult to set up. You would just need to read a few readmes, edit a few config files and then it should be ready. And if you have problems or questions, here on this list are many people using WWW/LX, Post/LX, Robot and PostPDU, so you can always count on help from the list. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 13:08:03 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Software collections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 02.09.02 12:45 PM +0200 Hi friends, I don't want to force a new discussion about Abandonware and software piracy here, but I would like to make a suggestion about how to prevent disappearing of valuable software for our palmtops: Anyone here should put together a collection of all programs he uses and he ever downloaded and set it aside on a CD. Even commercial software, which isn't sold anymore. But when he ever leaves his LX alone and doesn't use the software anymore, and probably signs off HPLX-L, he should do the remaining users the one last favor to send the CD to someone else still actively using the LX. Maybe someone who plans to use his LX for a long time to come could act as a CD collector. This is of course a little bit of software pircay, but I think this is a good compromise between preserving the LX and acting legally. Just an idea which came to my mind. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 19:05:30 -0500 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having a problem running the connectivy pack under Dr-DOS. I can open the programs ok but everytime I try to do a disk access (such as in filer when transfering a file to my 200LX) my screen goes haywire and I have to reboot. It seems to work best under dosshell but still does it. I have it loaded on a FAT32 drive and am accessing it with Dr-DOS FAT32 drivers. Am having problems with NO other DOS programs. I really don't want to load it on my FAT16 drive since I need to save it for bloated windows but can if I absolutely have to. Thanks for any assistance ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 19:20:18 -0500 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: GPS flashcard useful for HP/LX? Comments: To: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the tip. I've never used pretec. On Sun, 1 Sep 2002 23:29:34 -0400, you wrote: >I would never buy a pretec product. I bought a flashcard from them once = and it was junk.. by design, it was not a lemon as others have said the = same thing. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu]On Behalf Of >> John Musielewicz >> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 1:06 PM >> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu >> Subject: Re: GPS flashcard useful for HP/LX? >>=20 >>=20 >> On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 17:38:37 +0200, you wrote: >>=20 >> >I recently found this: >> = >http://www.pretec.com/index2/product/Mobile_peripherals/CompactGPS.htm >> > >> >does anybody know the device and if it could be useful in a HP200? >> > >> >cheers, >> >Werner >>=20 >> I haven't used it but heck yeah it would be useful in the LX. Instead >> of carrying around some bulky handheld gps and connecting to the slow >> serial port just plug it into the pcmcia port and away you go. It'll >> need two things to be effective. A driver for the card and mapping >> software. If the current usage is accurate it'll drain the batteries >> like an old flash card so battery life should still be good using it. >>=20 >> John >>=20 >> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >>=20 >>=20 > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:59:15 +0200 Reply-To: Axel-Berger@Nexgo.De Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Software collections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > This is of course a little bit of software pircay, but I think this is a > good compromise between preserving the LX and acting legally. It is not! Unless of course that software is still used by the first owner on another machine. But do you really see someone quitting the LX using a DOS machine? For the new owner having only the CD it may be hard to prove he is the sole and legal owner, but proof and fact are not the same thing. So I fully endorse your idea. Only proviso is, that I for one have never found time to look through the disks that came with old machines and even less to try out new and unknown software on them. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 08:02:55 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Parts kit In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > BTW: What do you mean with I/O door? Probably the cover over the IR lamp (and backup battery). -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 09:51:38 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Strange reboot problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have 200LX that was upgraded when new to DS and 32MB by Thaddeus. It has worked well for almost three years. I do not use SC, but do have a few TSRs loaded, such as Buddy, ABC, lxcic and, of course the DS speed driver. The week before last I received two "battery error" messages when charging my NiMH batteries. This is the first time I have ever seen this message during a charge cycle. It was the first sign of problem that was to show up in a different form a few days later. Last week, while I was on a business trip, the 200LX began rebooting when I pressed specific keys. No data was lost. Each time the screen said "recovering from backup mode" and all the files on all three disks, A:, C:, and F: were fine. Unsaved work was of course lost. I first thought this was a mechanical problem but was unable to cause a reboot by pressing the case in any manner of shaking the LX or tapping it, etc. The reboots occurred ONLY when keys were pressed - and not always the same keys and not all the time for those keys. Remembering the battery error messages I removed the NiMH batteries and installed my backup Lithium cells. The problem remained. I reloaded the 2X driver from an archive copy I keep on my Flash card and removed all the other TSRs and the problem remained. At one point I pulled the batteries, reformatted the C: drive (not the 32MB drive) and reloaded everything from my backup on the Flash card. The problem went away, but I can't correlate the elimination of the problem with any specific action. After I returned home I the machine seemed to be OK and I eventually reloaded Buddy. I ran Norton Disk test on all three drives and all were OK. It was still fine for days. Then I was using Memo last night and the auto-reboots started up again. I removed Buddy and it did not help. I booted without any startup files so I was using the 2MB C: drive instead of the 32MB drive and there was no speed driver loaded. Memo now worked OK with no reboots. (My screen is Ok without the DS driver.) This morning, I reloaded rdswap, so I was using the 32MB drive again and Memo still worked. Just a few minutes ago, I reloaded Buddy and the LX still works. I am ready to send this to Thaddeus for them to check out, but if this is a random problem they may never find it. Also, if it is caused by corrupted software, then it does not need to go back to the mother ship for repairs. So - what is happening? Do I have a hardware or a software problem? ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 08:51:38 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Software collections Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" > Anyone here should put together a collection of all programs he uses > and he ever downloaded and set it aside on a CD. Even commercial > software, which isn't sold anymore. > But when he ever leaves his LX alone and doesn't use the software > anymore, and probably signs off HPLX-L, he should do the remaining > users the one last favor to send the CD to someone else still > actively using the LX. Maybe someone who plans to use his LX for a > long time to come could act as a CD collector. > > This is of course a little bit of software pircay, but I think this is a > good compromise between preserving the LX and acting legally. That's a pretty good idea and it has the additional benefit of being up to the individual. Those who don't think that's a proper thing to do won't do it. Those that do, will, if they chose to. I suspect there are more than enough who will do it to make it work. It also might be a good idea to encourage people to put a list of the contents on the CD in text format that will give a short explanation of what each app is and does. And maybe a longer one for favorite apps. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 08:54:46 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS Comments: To: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Musielewicz" To: Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 7:05 PM Subject: Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS There was a rumor that you had left the list. If it's true, welcome back. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 09:14:35 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Strange reboot problem Comments: To: Victor Roberts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Roberts" To: Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: Strange reboot problem > > I am ready to send this to Thaddeus for them to check out, but if this is a random > problem they may never find it. Also, if it is caused by corrupted software, then it does > not need to go back to the mother ship for repairs. > > So - what is happening? Do I have a hardware or a software problem? I doubt if there's any way to know if it's a hardware problem at this point but I think the first thing I'd do is try to find a software problem. One thing you might do is re-install all your software. Fresh, not from backups. Of course data would have to be restored from backup. It might be wise to do this after a hard reset, clearing everything. I've never used an upgraded LX so I'm not sure what's involved in clearing the extra drive but I'd do it if it can be done. Then if you still have a problem you know it's not corrupted software. At that point you haven't eliminated software entirely but now you know it's not corrupted. At that point you could start removing things (or adding them, depending on your needs) and seeing when the problem goes away (or returns). This will take some time to be sure since you'll never actually know the problem won't start tomorrow. At some point you'll either find the problem or decide it's not software. You might still have to send it back to Thaddeus but they'll be more certain it's a hardware problem and believing the problem is there is sometimes half the battle in finding it. I have a feeling I'm telling you stuff you already know but just in case..... Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 10:38:43 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Strange reboot problem Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <00db01c2528b$24e7d4a0$470d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 2 Sep 2002 at 9:14, Barry wrote: [snip] > I doubt if there's any way to know if it's a hardware problem at > this point but I think the first thing I'd do is try to find a > software problem. One thing you might do is re-install all your > software. Fresh, not from backups. Of course data would have to > be restored from backup. My note was not clear enough on this point. I restored the drivers from archives I keep on my Flash card, not from a backup. It is not impossible that the archive could have become corrupted, but highly unlikely that the archive copy would have been corrupted the same way as the loaded drover. > It might be wise to do this after a hard reset, clearing > everything. I've never used an upgraded LX so I'm not sure what's > involved in clearing the extra drive but I'd do it if it can be > done. That is the one thing I did not do. The 32MB drive seems to have a life of its own, even without the batteries . Other than removing the batteries for a few days, how do I clear the 32MB drive? ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 15:39:04 +0100 Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Svagr, Radek" Subject: Re: Strange reboot problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" I would start with removing all bateries for 10 minutes and installing everything fresh, no backup which can be damaged already for a long time. BTW: what about a virus? ;-) Radek > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List On Behalf Of Victor Roberts > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 2:52 PM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Strange reboot problem > > I have 200LX that was upgraded when new to DS and 32MB by Thaddeus. It has > worked well for almost three years. I do not use SC, but do have a few TSRs loaded, > such as Buddy, ABC, lxcic and, of course the DS speed driver. > [...] > > So - what is happening? Do I have a hardware or a software problem? > > ------ > Victor Roberts > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 10:17:51 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Strange reboot problem Comments: To: Victor Roberts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Roberts" To: Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:38 AM Subject: Re: Strange reboot problem > My note was not clear enough on this point. I restored the drivers from archives I keep > on my Flash card, not from a backup. It is not impossible that the archive could have > become corrupted, but highly unlikely that the archive copy would have been corrupted > the same way as the loaded drover. I agree that's unlikey. > That is the one thing I did not do. The 32MB drive seems to have a life of its own, even > without the batteries . Other than removing the batteries for a few days, how do I > clear the 32MB drive? I don't know about the upgraded memory in the LX. Hopefully someone else can jump in. Does it get formatted? Maybe that would do it. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 15:34:12 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Continuous beep Comments: To: AHA2K@AOL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AHA2K@AOL.COM wrote: > What is the reason for the continuous, shrill beep coming from the palmtop > that only quiets slightly when the main batteries are removed, is unchanged > when connected to the adapter, and only stops when all power sources are > removed from the machine? If you have a single speed LX then the beep can be caused by having the double speed sound file "SPDALRM.TSR" in the "C:\_DAT" directory and is triggered by the next appointment beep reminder. (Mine behaved that way.) The beep would continue after the main batteries have been removed because the LX is running on its 'coin' backup battery (for a little while before you exhaust it). Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 18:34:15 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Parts kit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ted 03h05m ago Theodore Heise wrote: > Probably the cover over the IR lamp (and backup battery). ah, yes. I thought this was meant by "2 backup battery trays", but these ones are the grey holders, I see. Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 12:01:54 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Parts kit Comments: cc: Wayne Kneeskern MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Unfortunately, I do not believe the follow is available any more: <> Please someone reply if I am wrong. HP and Thaddeus Computing had the 200LX battery covers remanufactured. We currently sell them at http://www.palmtoppaper.com/store/asp/product.asp?product=164 for $10 each. Hal from Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 20:55:33 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Software collections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Barry and others 04h42m ago Barry wrote: > That's a pretty good idea and it has the additional benefit of > being up to the individual. Those who don't think that's a proper > thing to do won't do it. Those that do, will, if they chose to. I > suspect there are more than enough who will do it to make it work. > It also might be a good idea to encourage people to put a list of > the contents on the CD in text format that will give a short > explanation of what each app is and does. And maybe a longer one > for favorite apps. Good idea, and we should agree on one specific format of this list, so when collections are merged, duplicates can easily be found and eliminated and lists can be combined. What about a Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet? Almost all LXers have Lotus 1-2-3 (only the 1000CXers don't), and Lotus can sort lists, maybe even find duplicates etc. What columns would be needed? Program name, description, version, language, author, author contact info, package size, legal status, licensed copy?, source web address, date of the list entry, .... anything else? Or is an ASCII list better? Processing it automatically to find dups or whatever might be easier in a Lotus spreadsheet. And Lotus can export or print to a text file, can't it? Well, is this a good idea at all? If so, I would create a template based on your sggestions and put it online, so software collectors can start compiling their lists right now. Maybe we should collect these lists in some common place, only known to the members of this list, on the web. Hm - this would again come close to the idea with the "software owner database"... But maybe for now we can al simply collect and compose these lists, and later discuss what can be done with the collections. The goal is of course that anyone gets the program he needs for the palmtop, but avoiding software piracy. Not that some people collect and collect, and the people really needing the programs never get them. How do other computer-related "fan communities" handle that? There are so many other "obsolete" machines which still have big fan communities, = I'm sure we are not the first ones who discuss that topic. The Atari Portfolio, for example, or the CP/M, or the Commodore C64, C128.... BTW: I suggest we also collect interesting web page contents. I see more and more HPLX pages disappearing, thousands of dead links, and the authors are not reachable anymore. If we would collect the contents, we could again put them online if we see that the original versions are gone. Also not really legal, since the authors cannot be asked anymore without extensive efforts, but valuablke info should always be preserved! GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 15:27:04 -0400 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Barry wrote: > Thanks for the very complete explanation. I have an old Compaq > Aero laptop that I'm thinking about doing some graphics programming > on. Stuff I don't know how to do yet, like 3D transformations, > etc. I've been wondering if it might be worthwhile to look into > using Dr-Dos or Freedos to get the multi-threading. > If I use Dos I'll probably make my own threads but with Dr-Dos I > wouldn't have to and the 486 has more power than I need for the > simple stuff I'll be doing so that isn't an issue. > All I'll > be using it for is compilers, debuggers, etc. and things I write. > I do plan to go right to the hardware for a lot of it because > portability no longer has meaning when you are retired and just > playing. I might want to also use protected mode a little but I > have no experience in that yet. > > I have no idea which might be the better OS for me. Any thoughts? Multi-tasking is my > primary motivation. > I'm ok with MS-Dos. I'm used to it. But multi-tasking and > protected mode will be good to have. > The Aero is 640x480 and can't handle 256 colors at that resolution > so I'll probably use mode 12h. It can't use 13h gracefully since > it has fixed pixels at 640x480. Barry; You might want to use OS/2 version 3 or 4. The "out of the box" requirements for Warp 3 are 4MB RAM, and 35-55 MB free disk space. Though more RAM and disk space would be advised. I do a fair amount of MS-DOS programming in an OS/2 VDM (Virtual DOS Machine). It is the best DOS task switcher I have seen. I have not done any "native" OS/2 programming. But I have collected a number of books and other resources over the ages. You can program to DOS, 16 bit OS/2, 32-bit OS/2, 16 bit Windows, a very limited bit of 32-bit Windows, or to some ported Unix environments. And e-Bay sells them fairly cheaply. There is usually Warp 3, Warp 3 Connect, and Warp 4 available. And I must admit to being very surprised that a 486 laptop would not support a minimal bit of SVGA. Do you know what the chip set is? Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:32:28 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Software collections Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Software collections > Good idea, and we should agree on one specific > format of this list, so when collections are merged, > duplicates can easily be found and eliminated and > lists can be combined. That's a good idea but I suspect a lot of people will do it in their own way. If people will do it it'll be good. > What about a Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet? Almost > all LXers have Lotus 1-2-3 (only the 1000CXers > don't), and Lotus can sort lists, maybe even find > duplicates etc. I'd like to see text or html since 1000 cx users might not have 123. Besides this will be more useful on a PC than an LX since that's where the CD will be. > Maybe we should collect these lists in some > common place, only known to the members > of this list, on the web. Hm - this would again > come close to the idea with the "software owner > database"... That's what got Napster in trouble. But this won't be as noticable. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:40:57 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? Comments: To: Steve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" To: Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? > You might want to use OS/2 version 3 or 4. The "out of the > box" requirements for Warp 3 are 4MB RAM, and 35-55 MB free disk > space. Though more RAM and disk space would be advised. I do a > fair amount of MS-DOS programming in an OS/2 VDM (Virtual DOS > Machine). It is the best DOS task switcher I have seen. If I wanted a GUI I'd use windows since I'm used to it and have all the tools for it. But deep inside I'm allergic to GUIs. Even good ones. For a while I thought of using Linux but I never gave a thought to X. Graphics are for programs. OSs should basically stay out of the way. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 21:38:25 +0200 Reply-To: Matthias Paul Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Matthias Paul Organization: Aachen University of Technology (RWTH), Germany Subject: Re: Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2002-09-02, John Musielewicz wrote: > I am having a problem running the connectivy pack under Dr-DOS. > I can open the programs ok but everytime I try to do a disk > access (such as in filer when transfering a file to my 200LX) > my screen goes haywire and I have to reboot. Hm, I do not have a HP LX or its connectivity pack, so I cannot test easily. But is this product using a DOS extender utilizing VCPI or DPMI? If it does, try to fiddle with the "EMM386.EXE PIC=3DON" and "DPMI.EXE OFF" settings. What do you mean by "my screen goes haywire"? Do you get a protection fault and register dump? > It seems to work best under dosshell but still does it. Do you mean, that you run the MS-DOS/PC DOS DOSSHELL on DR-DOS (which, of course, should work)? DR-DOS itself does not come with DOSSHELL, but TASKMAX/TASKMGR plus ViewMAX are a good alternative. In case you'd run TASKMGR as a multitasker, open serial connections in the background may require some special tuning of TASKMGR.INI directives, though. In case the connectivity pack or DOSSHELL is running in higher text modes or graphical software, try if using standard text modes or standard VGA resolutions helps. > I really don't want to load it on my FAT16 drive since I need to > save it for bloated windows but can if I absolutely have to. > Thanks for any assistance Now, this is a little bit odd. If /I/ would use FAT32, I would put the /Windows/ stuff onto the FAT32 volume, and the /DOS/ stuff onto the /FAT16B/ volume, just for easier maintenance of the DOS stuff... Or do you mean the FAT16B boot drive? Hm, the fact that you have a FAT32 volume seems to imply that you have a huge harddisk (probably larger than 8 Gb). It also leads to the assumption, that you are using Windows 95 OSR2 or later rather than the original Windows 95 or Windows 3.xx. So, maybe the only FAT16 partition you seem to be able to access from DOS (without the help of DRFAT32) is the boot partition? Since FAT16 maxes out at 2 Gb this is not very much. In case, this very common scenario reflects your setup as well, there's good news for DR-DOS users: Using a little trick (which only works under DR DOS 6.0+), you can make up to 8 Gb of a much larger harddisk available to DR-DOS without wasting the remainder of the disk, which can still be used by LBA-enabled operating systems like MS-DOS 7.10+/Windows 95 OSR 2+. This works without a need for additional drivers like DRFAT32.SYS & DRFAT32.EXE, so you can re-gain huge amounts of precious memory under DR-DOS. The trick requires repartitioning, though. So, although the actual trick itself is extremely easy to apply, this is is quite some work if you don't set up a new system from the ground up. Basically it goes by setting up a secured extended CHS partition with partition ID C5h instead of the usual 05h, and yet another extended LBA partition with partition type 0Fh. (I already explained the procedure here in better details, but the post was rejected due to a 140 lines limit. In case you'd need better details, please ask, and I will post the remainder of the description.) Greetings, Matthias --=81 ; http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html; http://mpaul.drdos.org "Programs are poems for computers." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:00:25 -0700 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > On 2002-09-02, John Musielewicz wrote: > > > I am having a problem running the connectivy pack under Dr-DOS. > > I can open the programs ok but everytime I try to do a disk > > access (such as in filer when transfering a file to my 200LX) > > my screen goes haywire and I have to reboot. > > Hm, I do not have a HP LX or its connectivity pack, so I cannot > test easily. But is this product using a DOS extender utilizing > VCPI or DPMI? Not that I'm aware of. > > If it does, try to fiddle with the "EMM386.EXE PIC=ON" and > "DPMI.EXE OFF" settings. > > What do you mean by "my screen goes haywire"? > Do you get a protection fault and register dump? Scrambled like memory is being corrupted. > > > It seems to work best under dosshell but still does it. > > Do you mean, that you run the MS-DOS/PC DOS DOSSHELL on DR-DOS > (which, of course, should work)? PC-DOS dosshell works fine undr dr-dos. > > DR-DOS itself does not come with DOSSHELL, but TASKMAX/TASKMGR > plus ViewMAX are a good alternative. Taskmgr doesn't work with swerial ports unless you are in the first window > > In case you'd run TASKMGR as a multitasker, open serial connections > in the background may require some special tuning of TASKMGR.INI > directives, though. In case the connectivity pack or DOSSHELL is > running in higher text modes or graphical software, try if using > standard text modes or standard VGA resolutions helps. I tried all vga resolutions > > > I really don't want to load it on my FAT16 drive since I need to > > save it for bloated windows but can if I absolutely have to. > > Thanks for any assistance > > Now, this is a little bit odd. If /I/ would use FAT32, I would put > the /Windows/ stuff onto the FAT32 volume, and the /DOS/ stuff onto > the /FAT16B/ volume, just for easier maintenance of the DOS stuff... Windows is full of bloat even when I install just the OS on the boot drive. > > Or do you mean the FAT16B boot drive? > > Hm, the fact that you have a FAT32 volume seems to imply that you > have a huge harddisk (probably larger than 8 Gb). It also leads to > the assumption, that you are using Windows 95 OSR2 or later rather 10 gig formated for 8 and the fat32 partition is 6 gig and win98 > than the original Windows 95 or Windows 3.xx. > So, maybe the only FAT16 partition you seem to be able to access > from DOS (without the help of DRFAT32) is the boot partition? > Since FAT16 maxes out at 2 Gb this is not very much. > In case, this very common scenario reflects your setup as well, > there's good news for DR-DOS users: dr-dos will see up to 8 gig. MS-DOS and PC-DOS are limited to 2 gig > > Using a little trick (which only works under DR DOS 6.0+), you can > make up to 8 Gb of a much larger harddisk available to DR-DOS > without wasting the remainder of the disk, which can still be used > by LBA-enabled operating systems like MS-DOS 7.10+/Windows 95 OSR 2+. > > This works without a need for additional drivers like DRFAT32.SYS & > DRFAT32.EXE, so you can re-gain huge amounts of precious memory > under DR-DOS. > The trick requires repartitioning, though. So, although the actual > trick itself is extremely easy to apply, this is is quite some work > if you don't set up a new system from the ground up. > Basically it goes by setting up a secured extended CHS partition > with partition ID C5h instead of the usual 05h, and yet another > extended LBA partition with partition type 0Fh. (I already explained > the procedure here in better details, but the post was rejected due > to a 140 lines limit. In case you'd need better details, please ask, > and I will post the remainder of the description.) > I would be interested. You wouldn't have to post the whole thing just explain how dr-dos sees a fat32 drive with a driver. > Greetings, > > Matthias > > --- > ; > http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html; http://mpaul.drdos.org > > "Programs are poems for computers." > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:00:29 -0700 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? > > > You might want to use OS/2 version 3 or 4. The "out of the > > box" requirements for Warp 3 are 4MB RAM, and 35-55 MB free disk > > space. Though more RAM and disk space would be advised. I do a > > fair amount of MS-DOS programming in an OS/2 VDM (Virtual DOS > > Machine). It is the best DOS task switcher I have seen. > > If I wanted a GUI I'd use windows since I'm used to it and have all > the tools for it. But deep inside I'm allergic to GUIs. Even good > ones. > > For a while I thought of using Linux but I never gave a thought to > X. Graphics are for programs. OSs should basically stay out of > the way. Hi Barry Running OS/2 with a gui is easy. You just disable it in the boot config file. john > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 16:30:37 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? Comments: To: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Musielewicz" > > For a while I thought of using Linux but I never gave a thought to > > X. Graphics are for programs. OSs should basically stay out of > > the way. > > Running OS/2 with a gui is easy. You just disable it in the boot config > file. I don't want a GUI. GUIs are gooey and sticky yucky and no fun at all. I like the command line. I don't even care for IDE's. Too GUI-like. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:50:47 -0700 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Musielewicz" > > > > For a while I thought of using Linux but I never gave a thought > to > > > X. Graphics are for programs. OSs should basically stay out > of > > > the way. > > > > Running OS/2 with a gui is easy. You just disable it in the boot > config > > file. > > I don't want a GUI. GUIs are gooey and sticky yucky and no fun at > all. > > I like the command line. I don't even care for IDE's. Too > GUI-like. Whooops...I miswrote. That should have been WITHOUT a gui. John > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 00:42:07 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Software collections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > What about a Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet? Almost all LXers have Lotus 1-2-3 > (only the 1000CXers don't), and Lotus can sort lists, maybe even find > duplicates etc. Objection your honour! I know that spreadsheets are often misused as databases butr we at least shopuld stay above such abominations. Furthermore we all have a perfectly nice database which can 1) sort using any field 2) Take longish desciptions in a reasonable way 3) enabkle to view only specific selections at a time. 4) Is capable of merging data from different sources. It also exists in a free but ugly Windows and a very good but not free DOS version for our tabletops. So why look anywhere else? A nice "one to satisfy all" template would be called for, though. Name, size, category (editor, utility etc.), status (free, commercial, share), description, any more? As only one "category" is allowed, I suggest making the staus option buttons. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 18:56:13 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Software collections Comments: To: Axel Berger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Objection your honour! > I know that spreadsheets are often misused as databases butr we at least > shopuld stay above such abominations. Furthermore we all have a > perfectly nice database which can The only problem with the built-in database is that we limit access to people with 100lx and 200lx computers. Other dos computers are out of the picture and even 95lx owners are out of luck. I guess we have to decide if this is going to be an LX collection or a dos collection. I have mixed feelings about that. My main interest is in things that will run on the LX but I do have some interest in other programs for dos, too. I guess it wouldn't matter a lot to me personally. On the side of a dos collection is that a lot of us have been accumulating dos software for a lot of years and this might turn out to be one of the world's major dos software collections. Lot's of bragging rights there. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 22:15:03 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: OT: How to setup a DOS partition under XP? Comments: To: Michael Kopplin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, I'll try that when I get a chance. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kopplin" To: Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:41 PM Subject: Re: OT: How to setup a DOS partition under XP? > > because for some reason MSDOS from the floppy cannot see any of the > > partitions at all (the first one is NTFS, and the second one is Linux, the > > Have you hidden those first two partitions, and set your new dos > partition as active, or bootable? DOS looks for the first > primary partition and gets confused when there is more than one > visible. You can change the settings in linux. > > I have 3 partitions with win98 and one with linux, and this is > what worked for me. Don't know anything about XP though, or if > it can manage hiding and unhiding partitions. I use lilo, and it > works great. > > Mike > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 23:03:23 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: 512meg card questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I recently purchased a Sandisk 512meg CF card, so I have some questions: 1-What brand in this size can run on the hplx without the ace driver? 2-Would partitioning do any good, either to not need the driver or to improve speed? 3-The first day or so the access times to the card were so slow that I was considering sending it back, so I put it aside for a while. Today I tried again and was surprised to find the times almost normal (a bit on the slow side, but not as bad as before). Is this normal or do I have a defective card? I did notice some files on the TEMP directory which I did not see before, I think they might be related to the ace driver (but they did not appear before today). 4-Is it normal for a Sandisk 512meg card to be noticeably slower than a Sandisk 96meg card, when copying files to it from within a laptop? TIA Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 07:10:45 +0100 Reply-To: Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: VGA out card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel, > Do you know of such a program, which cannot only output JPG, but also > has the necessary capabilities to create slides (text, simple drawings, > easy handling of background tamplates etc.)? Powerpoint can output GIFs. On the 200LX, I haven't yet found such a = flexible application. Freelance and Harvard Graphics 2.3 are usable on the Palmtop. Printing to a Postscript printer file should be an option. Then use one = of the many converters available on the Swedish web page you indicated = should do the work. As you see there is still a lot of work to do to be able to = produce "powerpoint" presentations on the LX. Now that I know that one can upload picture to a Nikon Coolpix, I will do some more research on how to produce the files on the 200LX \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:36:29 +1000 Reply-To: Paul Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Johnson Subject: Re: Parts kit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I tried to order one about a year ago through HPs website, they wouldn't sell one to anyone outside the USA or Canada if I remember correctly (I'm in Sydney, Australia). So I rang HP in Melbourne, thinking maybe they had some, they said they could order it in no problems, it would take ten days, I paid by credit card. After a couple of weeks it still hadn't turned up, they said it should be here soon. After six weeks they finally told me I couldn't have it. Its available, but only to the USA and Canada. I was a disgruntled customer. They refunded the money. Paul Johnson > At one time HP had a parts kit with feet, > screws, etc. for the hp200lx. Anyone know > if this kit is still available or is it > history? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:08:26 +1000 Reply-To: "Prime, Peter" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Prime, Peter" Subject: Re: Parts kit Comments: To: Paul Johnson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am in Melbourne, Australia, and ordered one through HP Melbourne. It = arrived after about 4 weeks.=20 I would have thought that this was about a year ago, but I may be wrong. = I'll check at home tonight. Regards, Peter Prime > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Johnson [mailto:paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU] > Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2002 3:36 PM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Parts kit >=20 >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I tried to order one about a year ago through HPs website, they > wouldn't sell one to anyone outside the USA or Canada if I remember > correctly (I'm in Sydney, Australia). So I rang HP in Melbourne, > thinking maybe they had some, they said they could order it in no > problems, it would take ten days, I paid by credit card.=20 > After a couple > of weeks it still hadn't turned up, they said it should be here soon. > After six weeks they finally told me I couldn't have it. Its=20 > available, > but only to the USA and Canada. I was a disgruntled customer. They > refunded the money. >=20 > Paul Johnson >=20 > > At one time HP had a parts kit with feet, > > screws, etc. for the hp200lx. Anyone know > > if this kit is still available or is it > > history? > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device:=20 http://mobile.msn.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:40:50 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Software collections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Axel 06h45m ago Axel Berger wrote: > I know that spreadsheets are often misused as databases butr we at = least > shopuld stay above such abominations. I don't consider this abuse. A spreadsheet is a very nice database, and it even is intended for database use, why should it have database functions if it wasn't? > Furthermore we all have a > perfectly nice database which can > 1) sort using any field > 2) Take longish desciptions in a reasonable way > 3) enabkle to view only specific selections at a time. > 4) Is capable of merging data from different sources. That's true. I thought 1-2-3 bight be a bit a more generic solution. But with GDBIO or similar tools, we can of course also process the contents externally. That was what I wanted. So we should maybe really use the database. > Name, size, category (editor, utility etc.), status (free, commercial, > share), description, any more? As only one "category" is allowed, I > suggest making the staus option buttons. Ah, you mean one category FIELD, right? I initially though you meant only one category per entry. Yes, you're right. We could of course mix the status and category items in one category field, but option buttons (which I have never really used before, so I cannot comment on the usability) might also be a good choice. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:40:53 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: 512meg card questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Domingo 02h33m ago Domingo wrote: > 3-The first day or so the access times to the card were so slow that I = was > considering sending it back, so I put it aside for a while. Today I = tried > again and was surprised to find the times almost normal (a bit on the = slow > side, but not as bad as before). Is this normal or do I have a defectiv= e > card? I did notice some files on the TEMP directory which I did not = see > before, I think they might be related to the ace driver (but they did = not > appear before today). FWIW, I occasionally had similar problems with all kinds of CD cards (Sandisk 64Meg, Sandisk 192Meg, Simpletech 96Meg). Suddenly card access was incredibly slow. Sometimes this went away by itself, sometimes it went away after a rebooot, sometimes I even "optimize"d (=3Ddefragmented) the card and the problem remained. I don't know what caused this. Probalby some software error. I have not seen the problem for a long time now. It was especially noticeable when using Software Carousel with its swap file on the card: Usually swapping took abt. 6 seconds, with the slowed down access, swapping took MUCH longer. Maybe 30 seconds, or even 1 minute. Don't recall that exactly. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:30:44 +0200 Reply-To: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Subject: Re: Parts kit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I bought a parts kit some years ago, which included only about half the > parts, .... Same here, not even half of the described parts! Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 04:10:56 -0400 Reply-To: Katherine Wasserman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Katherine Wasserman Subject: Re: Parts kit Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Daniel, I was just quoting from the HP Partsurfer website ( http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/main ) on this. I'm sure that the I/O door is the red plastic covering the backup battery and IR port. I do have one of these part kits but I ordered it years ago. It's still on thier parts list for $21.00 but I suppose that it might not be available as Hal Goldstein pointed out. -Katie >Hi Katie > >51m ago Katherine Wasserman wrote: > >> "Palmtop maintenance kit - Includes: 2 battery doors, 4 hinge caps, 2 I/O >> doors, 8 rubber feet, 2 ID nameplates, 3 screws, and 2 backup battery trays" > >I bought a parts kit some years ago, which included only about half the >parts, and AFAIR no screws. Seems HP have too many parts left and want >to get rid of them. > >BTW: What do you mean with I/O door? > >GTX >daniel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 06:28:18 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Parts Kit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found that the parts kit was listed but that there were NO such items in stock. I started to order the part but discovered that I needed a customer number or disclosure of name, email addy etc. I stopped at that point. Hal, if you have a HP number you might give it a try beginning at http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/main?sel_flg=partlist&model=200LX&HP_mo del=&modname=200LX+Palmtop+%281%2C+2%2C+4MB%29&template=secondary&plist_sval =Kit&plist_styp=subcat&dealer_id=&keysel=Kit&catsel=%3F&ptypsel=%3F&strsrch= .ed. PS: Sorry Katherine for mistakenly sending this message to you direct. Ooops. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:57:15 -0400 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? In-Reply-To: <001101c252b8$bc9c1180$9d0d22d1@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:40 PM 9/2/02 -0500, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steve" >> You might want to use OS/2 version 3 or 4. The "out of the >> box" requirements for Warp 3 are 4MB RAM, and 35-55 MB free disk >> space. Though more RAM and disk space would be advised. I do a >> fair amount of MS-DOS programming in an OS/2 VDM (Virtual DOS >> Machine). It is the best DOS task switcher I have seen. > >If I wanted a GUI I'd use windows since I'm used to it and have all >the tools for it. But deep inside I'm allergic to GUIs. Even good >ones. > >For a while I thought of using Linux but I never gave a thought to >X. Graphics are for programs. OSs should basically stay out of >the way. Barry, Well, sitting at a command prompt in an OS/2 or DOS box avoids the GUI for the most part. Can't see an icon at all. The only times you need the GUI are to swap between sessions and shut down the system. Once you have set things up to mimic your normal work habits, there are very few clues to tell you if you are in a OS/2 VDM or booted a real DOS 5.0 session. At home, the biggest are a somewhat slow mouse in DOS games, and a whole slew of extra drive letters for the OS/2 partitions. Windows DOS sessions are (in my experience) fairly poorly done. Windows 3.x and Win 9x/ME are not particularly stable, and Win ME, Win2k, and XP have real compatibility problems. When my DOS programs are crashing, I switch to a sacrificial session and let it crash, leaving my DOSKEY command history intact in the other session, and giving me a register dump in the dead session. Faster than rebooting DOS or Windows if nothing else. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 06:15:11 -0700 Reply-To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph Buford Subject: Flashcard and Batt life Comments: cc: daniel.hertrich@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Corrected list (thanks to Daniel) I have 3-200lx's in use and 1 as a hardware test bed. Unit ROM ver SN Batt Life 1 DS 6MB 1.02a SG32600524 12-15 hrs 220MB PCMCIA, 1800mAh 1 SS 2MB 1.02a SG54400774 51-56 hrs no card, 1600mAh 1 SS 6MB 1.02a SG63100256 52-55 hrs no card, 1600mAh 1 SS 2MB(test bed) SG55001256 N/A + many others 100lx & 200lx in pieces I Have 4 CF cards and 2 PCMCIA Cards Sandisk Simple Tech HP (by Sundisk) A-1 Flash 1-160MB CF Ty II 1-48MB CF Ty I 1-5MB PCMCIA Ty II ATA 1-256MB CF Ty I 1-160MB CF Ty I 1-220MB PCMCIA Ty II ATA All Cards work in All units with NO driver. I use fastdb, buddy, batset, battlog. I have a NEX II MP3 Player as well as a Jornada 548. the CF Ty 1 cards all work on these as well. The TyII CF also works on the NEX II. I also have an Omnigo 100 that I have not played with. It came with a 4MB SRAM card. >BTW, it was working when I first got it (no books), but now I insert Batts(no Backup), press >the reset button and it goes to the OMNIGO screen and will not respond to keys. Any Ideas? Never Mind... the 4MB SRAM card that came with it was killing it! 200lx battery test is a constant run from a full charge (~20hrs on SS units, 4hr on DS unit) using Buddy to turn off light sleep. Also I have an order in with Mac for 2 DS crystals and 1 6MB upgrade. I will be testing these the same way after upgrade. Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:21:40 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: ANN: The last few LED lights for sale! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue, 03.09.02 3:16 PM +0200 Hi friends, these are definitely the very last LED lights I sell, I have 7 of them left. For details see http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight Special price of 35 US Dollars for you list members, plus shipping. Payment via Paypal. Shipping to anywhere in the world, 6 US dollars without, 8 US dollars with registration. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:06:54 +0200 Reply-To: Matthias Paul Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Matthias Paul Organization: Aachen University of Technology (RWTH), Germany Subject: Re: Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2002-09-02, John Musielewicz wrote: > Taskmgr doesn't work with swerial ports unless you are in the > first window Running TASKMGR as a multitasker it should, but you won't be able to use more than 9600 Bd or so, and it requires some experimentation with the TASKMGR.INI settings. Also, it is a good idea to have FIFOed chips and good error correction. >> Or do you mean the FAT16B boot drive? >> >> Hm, the fact that you have a FAT32 volume seems to imply that you >> have a huge harddisk (probably larger than 8 Gb). It also leads to >> the assumption, that you are using Windows 95 OSR2 or later rather > > 10 gig formated for 8 and the fat32 partition is 6 gig and win98 Sorry, it is still not clear to me, there are many possible scenarios and some important info is missing. Let's see: You have a 2 Gb primary FAT16B CHS partition (ID 06h) and a 6 Gb extended partition, and in there a 6 GB FAT32 partition. You lost the remaining 2 Gb free space of your 10 Gb disk, as accessing them would require LBA access. Windows 98 sees both, C: (2 Gb) and D: (6 Gb), but MS-DOS/PC DOS and DR-DOS (without DRFAT32 drivers) only see drive C:. This is the reason why you use DRFAT32 to access the 6 Gb FAT32 partition under DR-DOS as well, isn't it? (BTW. DRFAT32 works just fine under any MS-DOS/PC DOS 3.30+ or DR DOS 5.0+.) Is this a correct description of the scenario on your system? The important part for me to know would be, if the extended partition is of type 05h (CHS) or type 0Fh (LBA) on your system. Also, it would be important to know, if your System BIOS supports LBA access. Depending on these things, there a different potential alternatives how to improve the given situation. The general idea is to not waste any space on the disk (so you would gain some extra 2 Gb - users of larger harddisks would gain even more), and to try to make more of the space available to DR-DOS (without memory consuming DRFAT32 driver, that is) and still have enough free space for Windows, in particular on the boot drive, which must remain a 2 Gb FAT16B CHS partition, so you can boot DOS as well. In case the extended partition is of type 05h, and you do not want to make use of the 2 Gb wasted space on the disk, the easiest way to get more available space would be to replace the FAT32 partition by three FAT16B CHS partitions, so you have D:, E:, and F: drives afterwards, accessable by both Windows and MS-DOS/PC DOS or DR-DOS. It would also be possible to reserve these 6 Gb for use by DR-DOS only, and thereby make the 2 Gb currently unused space above the 8 Gb CHS barrier available to Windows. So, Windows would see C: (2 Gb) and D: (2 Gb), while DR-DOS would see a different set of drives also named D:..F: (all 2 Gb), only the C: partition would be shared between the two OS. Having other DOS versus Windows ratios would require repartitioning, I'm afraid, but it may be worth it. In case your extended partition is type 0Fh, setting up the DR-DOS C5h trick will most probably require repartitioning as well. First, you would have to change the 0Fh partition into a 05h partition, and then the 6 Gb FAT32 partition in there into three 2 Gb FAT16B partitions. Still, the C5h trick is a useful option to get the most out of both, in particular if you have harddisks much larger than 8 Gb and are setting up a new system (it's easier then). >> So, maybe the only FAT16 partition you seem to be able to access >> from DOS (without the help of DRFAT32) is the boot partition? >> Since FAT16 maxes out at 2 Gb this is not very much. > [...] > dr-dos will see up to 8 gig. MS-DOS and PC-DOS are limited to 2 gig It depends on what you mean. MS-DOS/PC DOS, DR-DOS and all other CHS-only systems will all max out at 8 Gb total disk space per drive. Only LBA-enabled OS like MS-DOS 7.10+ (Windows 95 OSR2, Windows 98, Linux etc.) will be able to access the remainder of the disk. The maximum partition size for FAT16B is 2 Gb for all of them as well. So, you can use up to 8 Gb of a disk under MS-DOS/PC DOS as well, but only, when the extended partition is of type 05h (CHS). New extended partitions of type 0Fh (LBA) are invisible for traditional DOSes, including DR-DOS (without DRFAT32 drivers). However, if you have a drive larger than 8 Gb, it is somewhat paradox to use a type 05h extended partition to access up to 8 Gb of the drive, but loose all the remainder of the disk. The alternative of using a type 0Fh extended partition would give you access to the whole disk, but only under the new OS. Older OSes would see even less than before, that is, only 2 Gb (for the primary partition) instead of 8 Gb per disk. Microsoft in all their wisdom did forget to properly define the most obvious upgrade path to get the most out of both, old and new systems, CHS and LBA... ;-) Greetings, Matthias --=81 ; http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html; http://mpaul.drdos.org "Programs are poems for computers." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:36:11 -0400 Reply-To: Werner Furlan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Werner Furlan Subject: Ericsson T39 and www/lx - experiences MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all, especially Daniel and Tony, since some time I owe the Ericsson T39 and tried to establish Internet Connections with the phone. My first tries with IRDA were really disappointing, especially in GPRS connections due to EME problems with the IRDA port of my HP200. Lots of lost packets, broken connections and many Euros on my phone bill. Now I purchased a DRS-11 serial cable and things changed dramatically. flawless quick connections with the disatvantage of a bulky cable. PDU via IRDA works without problems. because the phone sends the SMS after the infrared run (I think) and mostly I use it only for download and not for sending SMS. cheers, Werner -- mail powered by HP200/LX WWW/LX mailto:furlan@gmx.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:41:00 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 512meg card questions Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:40 AM Subject: Re: 512meg card questions > sometimes I even "optimize"d (=defragmented) the card > and the problem remained. I don't know what caused this. This isn't an area I know much about but from the reading I've done here and there about they way flash cards work I have real concerns about defragmenting them. Even if the card is truly fragmented there's no moving head to be concerned with so I doubt that there's anything ever gained by defragmenting. I also wonder if these thins ever do get defragmented. I really doubt that clusters and sectors actually exist on the card like they do on a real disk. There's logic in the card to make it seem that way to the computer and I don't know what real organization exists on the card but why think it's really anything like a regular disk? Cards have built-in routines to handle their writing in such a way that they're optimized to make the card last longer. How they do that I don't know but I have read that the cards do what the wear programs used to do. If that's true it's entirely possible that defragmenting them interferes with the internal organization. Using a defragmenting program as opposed to deleting everything and re-copying it back to the card probably causes a huge amount of writes, which shortens the life of the card, although it might not do that enough to be significant. Does anyone on the list have more or better information about this? I'm stretching past what I really know here and I'd like to know more about it. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:50:15 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? Comments: To: Steve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 7:57 AM Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? > Well, sitting at a command prompt in an OS/2 or DOS box > avoids the GUI for the most part. Can't see an icon at all. > The only times you need the GUI are to swap between sessions > and shut down the system. Once you have set things up to > mimic your normal work habits, there are very few clues to > tell you if you are in a OS/2 VDM or booted a real DOS 5.0 > session. At home, the biggest are a somewhat slow mouse in > DOS games, and a whole slew of extra drive letters for the > OS/2 partitions. Ok. You got me. I have to fall back on prejudice. Real men use command lines. Only cowards use guis when they don't have to. Maybe the gui won't be visible but I'll know it's there and my self respect will go down the tube. :) Actually I like dos and programming in a simple environment suits me. The multi-theading would be nice but I can have that in MS-Dos if I'm willing to work at it. Or maybe DR-Dos. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:31:59 +0100 Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Svagr, Radek" Subject: antivirus - found MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" I finally found the link for page from where I downloaded quite new Scan for DOS which works on 200lx: http://www.zi.unizh.ch/software/antivirus/nai_x86_dos.html Radek ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:26:00 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve wrote: > Windows DOS sessions are (in my experience) fairly poorly > done. Windows 3.x and Win 9x/ME are not particularly stable, > and Win ME, Win2k, and XP have real compatibility problems. I have a question about that: I have been given a 486 notebook which would in principle make an extremely nice DOS machine. Only the serial ports ,bog standard 8255 I believe, don't work correctly and lose characters, an interrupt problem I suppose. I can use stuff like Going Postal ot nettamer in a W311 Dosbox though, so there must be a software solution. Any hints (except "stick to gooey" that is)? Danke Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:37:26 EDT Reply-To: AHA2K@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: AHA2K@AOL.COM Subject: continuous fatal beep, case, & connectivity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, the problem has been since resolved, sending the machine back to day one. This machine is not yet upgraded. It is a 2mb/SG64*36. The power source was the IKEA alkaline batteries, if that means anything. The machine has never been dropped but I use the Ripoff case in a soft messenger bag which I carry all the time. What are the hard cases recommended for this machine? I found an interesting one in the Jensen Electronics catalog. Also, I have the cable, how else can I get CPACK? Thank you, Adam > > Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 07:38:25 +0200 > From: Daniel Hertrich > Subject: Re: Continuous beep > > Hi Adam > > 14h11m ago AHA2K@AOL.COM wrote: > > > What is the reason for the continuous, shrill beep coming from the = > palmtop > > that only quiets slightly when the main batteries are removed, is = > unchanged > > when connected to the adapter, and only stops when all power sources = > are > > removed from the machine? > > Is this an upgraded machine? How old? Did you drop it on the floor? > I have seem palmtops beep if as you describe there is something wrong > with a connection of CPU or memory. Can you open the palmtop and look > what's up? If there is a memory daughterboard (which is also the > case on some native 2MB and all 4MB machines), if may just not be > safely pressed into its socket anymore. Or there is a short-circuit > somewhere between the CPU pins, which you can blow away with compressed > air, a little bit of metal dirt is enough to cause a short. > > Maybe http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair and > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair/dismantle.shtml > can help you. > > > > Lost CPACK years ago, praying over an 8mb Maxtor card, and looking for = > help. > > Also, just recently, after thinking all data was lost on my type 2 = > card, > > while playing with it, I accidentally reloaded the driver, I think, and = > all > > the data in my card came back! Happy day. > > Usualy and power-failure or whatever causes data loss on the RAm drive > does not affect the flash card. However, Avi reported that he also lost > flash card contents once. I think it was never clear why. > > Good luck > daniel > > > Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 15:34:12 +0000 > From: Russel Brooks > Subject: Re: Continuous beep > > AHA2K@AOL.COM wrote: > > What is the reason for the continuous, shrill beep coming from the palmtop > > that only quiets slightly when the main batteries are removed, is > unchanged > > when connected to the adapter, and only stops when all power sources are > > removed from the machine? > > If you have a single speed LX then the beep can be caused by > having the double speed sound file "SPDALRM.TSR" in the > "C:\_DAT" directory and is triggered by the next appointment > beep reminder. (Mine behaved that way.) > > The beep would continue after the main batteries have been > removed because the LX is running on its 'coin' backup battery > (for a little while before you exhaust it). > > Cheers... Russ > > DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:45:49 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? Comments: To: Axel Berger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:26 AM Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? > I have a question about that: I have been given a 486 notebook which > would in principle make an extremely nice DOS machine. Only the serial > ports ,bog standard 8255 I believe, don't work correctly and lose > characters, an interrupt problem I suppose. I can use stuff like Going > Postal ot nettamer in a W311 Dosbox though, so there must be a software > solution. Any hints (except "stick to gooey" that is)? I'm not familiar with Going Postal or Nettamer but in general a 486 is easily fast enough to handle high speed communication in Dos. Actually it's more likely to lose characters in a GUI because of all the background stuff going on. If you connect it to another computer through a null modem you should be able to transfer files at 115 kbs with no problem. If you can't and you're confident in the software you probably have a hardware problem. What about your modem? Could that be a problem? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:50:48 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: continuous fatal beep, case, & connectivity Comments: To: AHA2K@AOL.COM In-Reply-To: <1aa.7c41818.2aa63136@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 3 Sep 2002 at 11:37, AHA2K@AOL.COM wrote: > Well, the problem has been since resolved, sending the machine back to day > one. Can you explain? ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:11:25 -0600 Reply-To: Julie Miley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Julie Miley Subject: resolution and need help with 95LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry said: > The Aero is 640x480 and can't handle 256 colors at that resolution > so I'll probably use mode 12h. It can't use 13h gracefully since > it has fixed pixels at 640x480. Is that a laptop?? My laptop PC has res of only 640x480! It won't support any more than 16 colors... I've tried displaying a 24 color picture, and it's even too much for the resolution to display properly. Oh, I'm new, here, and have a bit of a problem with my 95LX palmtop. I bought it for 5 dollars at a garage sale, so if this problem is unfixable, it's no big deal. Whoever had the palmtop before me did some Lotus worksheets and saved them. No biggie, there. What IS the biggie is they managed to save those files as read-only, then somehow disabled the ATTRIB command in DOS. I'd love to delete those files and free up some space, but I've tried using the ATTRIB -r command, and it comes up as a bad command. Ahhhh, this person also went in and wrote a new command.com file, apparently disabling some DOS commands. I can't delete the command.com file, and I can't seem to get into SHELL to write a new command file. DOS seems to recognize the FORMAT command (didn't specify any parameters, just wanted to see if DOS would say FORMAT is a bad command.) I can type in the command $SYSMGR, but can't actually get into the manager to get at the original DOS commands. Sigh....is there anything I can do, besides transferring files to another computer and doing a format of the C drive on my palmtop? I don't have a connectivity pack, and also don't have any RAM cards. If there is a way to restore the original DOS commands and get those pesky Lotus worksheet files off my little guy, I'd love for someone to take me through the procedure. I'm not an expert, am just starting to learn the more technical side of computers. Thanks in advance for any help! Julie in Colorado PS: I'm a big Star Trek fan, so all my computers are named after ST characters. My desktop PC is named "Picard," my 486DX2 laptop is "Q," and my palmtop is "Data." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:31:24 -0400 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? In-Reply-To: <002801c25350$ea054c20$6c0d22d1@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Barry wrote: > >Ok. You got me. I have to fall back on prejudice. Real men use >command lines. Only cowards use guis when they don't have to. >Maybe the gui won't be visible but I'll know it's there and my self >respect will go down the tube. :) > Well, ya got me there... >Actually I like dos and programming in a simple environment suits >me. The multi-theading would be nice but I can have that in MS-Dos >if I'm willing to work at it. Or maybe DR-Dos. There is a quote out there to the effect the a GUI is only good because it allows you to have multiple command line windows open. The protected mode catching crashing programs is gravy also. Looked at a Compaq Aero FAQ, and amazingly it does seem that it is a stock VGA implementation. Complicates some graphics programming as SVGA is usually easier than the weird 16 color VGA stuff. Till next time Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:34:21 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: resolution and need help with 95LX Comments: To: Julie Miley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Welcome to the list. Since DOS is in ROM and the spreadsheets and new Command.Com are in RAM, all you need to do is reboot with the Shift-Ctrl-On key combination and answer "Y" to the "Initialize RAM Disk?" question. This will wipe out the RAM and restore the initial settings. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Julie Miley [mailto:bjm0801@MHO.COM] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:11 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: resolution and need help with 95LX Barry said: > The Aero is 640x480 and can't handle 256 colors at that resolution > so I'll probably use mode 12h. It can't use 13h gracefully since > it has fixed pixels at 640x480. Is that a laptop?? My laptop PC has res of only 640x480! It won't support any more than 16 colors... I've tried displaying a 24 color picture, and it's even too much for the resolution to display properly. Oh, I'm new, here, and have a bit of a problem with my 95LX palmtop. I bought it for 5 dollars at a garage sale, so if this problem is unfixable, it's no big deal. Whoever had the palmtop before me did some Lotus worksheets and saved them. No biggie, there. What IS the biggie is they managed to save those files as read-only, then somehow disabled the ATTRIB command in DOS. I'd love to delete those files and free up some space, but I've tried using the ATTRIB -r command, and it comes up as a bad command. Ahhhh, this person also went in and wrote a new command.com file, apparently disabling some DOS commands. I can't delete the command.com file, and I can't seem to get into SHELL to write a new command file. DOS seems to recognize the FORMAT command (didn't specify any parameters, just wanted to see if DOS would say FORMAT is a bad command.) I can type in the command $SYSMGR, but can't actually get into the manager to get at the original DOS commands. Sigh....is there anything I can do, besides transferring files to another computer and doing a format of the C drive on my palmtop? I don't have a connectivity pack, and also don't have any RAM cards. If there is a way to restore the original DOS commands and get those pesky Lotus worksheet files off my little guy, I'd love for someone to take me through the procedure. I'm not an expert, am just starting to learn the more technical side of computers. Thanks in advance for any help! Julie in Colorado PS: I'm a big Star Trek fan, so all my computers are named after ST characters. My desktop PC is named "Picard," my 486DX2 laptop is "Q," and my palmtop is "Data." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:06:58 +0200 Reply-To: Matthias Paul Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Matthias Paul Organization: Aachen University of Technology (RWTH), Germany Subject: Re: Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2002-09-02, John Musielewicz wrote: > I would be interested. You wouldn't have to post the whole thing > just explain how dr-dos sees a fat32 drive with a driver. /Without/ a driver, you mean, don't you? Otherwise you can use DRFAT32.SYS + DRFAT32.EXE to access FAT32 partitions (with both, CHS or LBA access), but these drivers consume much memory and, as being redirector drivers, they have other implications as well (no possible disk access on block device driver level, as it would be possible for native drives). There is an OEM issue of DR-DOS 7.04/7.05, which natively supports FAT32 and LBA without requiring external drivers, but this is not intended for desktop systems and has some problems (it still cannot boot from a FAT32 partition, the drive order may change compared to other systems, and there are problems renaming files). Combining the DR-DOS 7.05 IBMBIO.COM with the (desktop) DR-DOS 7.03 IBMDOS.COM (yes, it works!) will allow to access LBA partitions, so you can use drives larger than 8 Gb, but still only have FAT16 partitions. Actually, using this combination, one of the requirements /is/, that you must *not* have any FAT32 drives, otherwise it will cause more problems than it solves. The C5h trick, however, works with any DR DOS 6.0+. It will not work with other DOSes, but at least it will not cause problems with them as well. Without drivers, DR-DOS can utilize up to 8 Gb per harddisk, while at the same time the remainder of the disk remains available for use by other, LBA-enabled, systems. [The actual description is following in a minute under the subject: "How to use DR-DOS extended partition type C5h to optimize disk utilization on huge harddisks". My original reply was exactly 139 lines in length, but somewhat oddly it was rejected as being longer than 140 lines since the count included the variable- length header, which is not under the control of the poster...] Greetings, Matthias --=20 ; http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html; http://mpaul.drdos.org "Programs are poems for computers." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:43:57 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: resolution and need help with 95LX Comments: To: Julie Miley In-Reply-To: <008c01c25364$8dd3d3e0$b30a3a40@excalibur> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 3 Sep 2002 at 10:11, Julie Miley wrote: > Whoever had the palmtop before me did some Lotus > worksheets and saved them. No biggie, there. What IS > the biggie is they managed to save those files as read-only, > then somehow disabled the ATTRIB command in DOS. > I'd love to delete those files and free up some space, but > I've tried using the ATTRIB -r command, and it comes > up as a bad command. Ahhhh, this person also went in > and wrote a new command.com file, apparently disabling > some DOS commands. I can't delete the command.com > file, and I can't seem to get into SHELL to write a new > command file. DOS seems to recognize the FORMAT > command (didn't specify any parameters, just wanted to > see if DOS would say FORMAT is a bad command.) > I can type in the command $SYSMGR, but can't actually > get into the manager to get at the original DOS commands. Command.com and attrib are in ROM. There is no way they can be deleted or changed. I suspect that you could use config.sys to point to a new command.com, but the original is still there as is attrib. Look in D:, which is the system ROM drive and you will find attrib. Then make sure that your PATH includes D: and any necessary sub-directory. (In my 200LX attrib is in D:\DOS but I don't remember if the same subdirectory is used in the 95LX. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:58:13 +0200 Reply-To: Axel-Berger@Nexgo.De Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: resolution and need help with 95LX Comments: To: Julie Miley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julie Miley wrote: > then somehow disabled the ATTRIB command in DOS. > I'd love to delete those files and free up some space, but > I've tried using the ATTRIB -r command, and it comes > up as a bad command. Ahhhh, this person also went in > and wrote a new command.com file, apparently disabling > some DOS commands. The conspiracy is not as bad as you seem to fear. ATTRIB.EXE is not part of COMMAND.COM as you seem to believe but a separate program which is missing in the LX. Do you have a means of copying files to and from your LX yet? If so the sloution is simple. Instead of ATTRIB.EXE I highly recommend the Volkov Commander, being vastly superiour to the built in filer. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:09:33 +0200 Reply-To: Axel-Berger@Nexgo.De Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: resolution and need help with 95LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Victor Roberts wrote: > Command.com and attrib are in ROM. So they are, so my first answer was wrong, sorry. (Not all the usual stuff is there in the LX and I never use ATTRIB). So then the solution is even simpler: Delete (or rename if you suspect something valuable to be there) AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS on C:\ and there you are: All present and correct, sir. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:37:56 -0400 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 02-09 15:40 EDT, you wrote: > If I wanted a GUI I'd use windows since I'm used to it and have all > the tools for it. But deep inside I'm allergic to GUIs. Even good > ones. I too don't like the GUIs, and mostly prefer pure text mode. But I have to admit that OS/2 is a very good DOS multitasker. I used OS/2 Warp 3 professionaly on my old Compaq laptop (486dx25 with 4MB RAM and 200MB hard drive), and it worked much better than Windows on this hardware. I switched to Linux some years ago. > For a while I thought of using Linux but I never gave a thought to > X. I use Linux regularly at work and at home, on different machines, and the last time I ran X11 was some months ago. The virtual console of Linux is a nice tool... You can have up to 64 of them on a standard PC. So you can use Linux without using X11. -- Erwann ABALEA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 00:44:04 -0500 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Palrun ver 2 working full screen at 800 by 600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying to run LX programs on my libretto which has a 800 by 480 lcd screen. Under palrun it works full screen at 640 by 480 however everything is a little out of focus because of the resolution- its display 640 pixals on 800. When I switch palrun to 800 by 600 it looks nicely in focus however everything is in a little 3 inch by 1.5 in box in the upper left hand corner of the screen. Is there a setting that will make it full screen? Or can it be changed to work so it displays full screen at the resolution the screen driver sets the screen instead of setting the resolution itself? Wouldn't it take less memory of it worked like that?=20 John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:47:14 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: resolution and need help with 95LX In-Reply-To: <3D74AE8D.1084.6DDB10@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 3 Sep 2002 at 12:43, Victor Roberts wrote: > On 3 Sep 2002 at 10:11, Julie Miley wrote: > > > > Whoever had the palmtop before me did some Lotus > > worksheets and saved them. No biggie, there. What IS > > the biggie is they managed to save those files as read-only, > > then somehow disabled the ATTRIB command in DOS. > > I'd love to delete those files and free up some space, but > > I've tried using the ATTRIB -r command, and it comes > > up as a bad command. Ahhhh, this person also went in > > and wrote a new command.com file, apparently disabling > > some DOS commands. I can't delete the command.com > > file, and I can't seem to get into SHELL to write a new > > command file. DOS seems to recognize the FORMAT > > command (didn't specify any parameters, just wanted to > > see if DOS would say FORMAT is a bad command.) > > I can type in the command $SYSMGR, but can't actually > > get into the manager to get at the original DOS commands. > > Command.com and attrib are in ROM. There is no way they can be deleted or changed. > I suspect that you could use config.sys to point to a new command.com, but the original > is still there as is attrib. Look in D:, which is the system ROM drive and you will find > attrib. Then make sure that your PATH includes D: and any necessary sub-directory. (In > my 200LX attrib is in D:\DOS but I don't remember if the same subdirectory is used in > the 95LX. Well, my answer was not completely correct - at least regarding command.com. Command.com is in D: which is the ROM drive but it gets copied to C: when the drive is first initialized. Therefore you could change the copy of command.com that is actually used just by placing another version in C:\. However, I the original is still in D: so you can always restore the original. I liked the answer from someone who suggested that you just reformat the whole C: drive. That will eliminate anything strange that the previous owner did and give you a "factory fresh" C: drive. All the files needed to set up the machine are in ROM on D: and will be loaded automatically. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 00:48:25 -0500 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS Comments: To: Matthias Paul In-Reply-To: <000001c25367$fb7b64a0$c03dfea9@atlantis> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:06:58 +0200, you wrote: >On 2002-09-02, John Musielewicz wrote: > >> I would be interested. You wouldn't have to post the whole thing >> just explain how dr-dos sees a fat32 drive with a driver. > >/Without/ a driver, you mean, don't you? Yeah actually I did mean without a driver. ver 7.03 > >Otherwise you can use DRFAT32.SYS + DRFAT32.EXE to access FAT32 >partitions (with both, CHS or LBA access), but these drivers consume >much memory and, as being redirector drivers, they have other >implications as well (no possible disk access on block device >driver level, as it would be possible for native drives). > >There is an OEM issue of DR-DOS 7.04/7.05, which natively supports >FAT32 and LBA without requiring external drivers, but this is not >intended for desktop systems and has some problems (it still cannot >boot from a FAT32 partition, the drive order may change compared >to other systems, and there are problems renaming files). > >Combining the DR-DOS 7.05 IBMBIO.COM with the (desktop) DR-DOS 7.03 >IBMDOS.COM (yes, it works!) will allow to access LBA partitions, >so you can use drives larger than 8 Gb, but still only have FAT16 >partitions. Actually, using this combination, one of the requirements >/is/, that you must *not* have any FAT32 drives, otherwise it will >cause more problems than it solves. > >The C5h trick, however, works with any DR DOS 6.0+. It will not work >with other DOSes, but at least it will not cause problems with them >as well. Without drivers, DR-DOS can utilize up to 8 Gb per harddisk, >while at the same time the remainder of the disk remains available >for use by other, LBA-enabled, systems. > >[The actual description is following in a minute under the subject: >"How to use DR-DOS extended partition type C5h to optimize disk >utilization on huge harddisks". My original reply was exactly >139 lines in length, but somewhat oddly it was rejected as being >longer than 140 lines since the count included the variable- >length header, which is not under the control of the poster...] > >Greetings, > > Matthias ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 00:56:47 -0500 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS In-Reply-To: <000001c25367$fb7b64a0$c03dfea9@atlantis> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Had to snip alot. Ran ito the 140 line length limit. > >Running TASKMGR as a multitasker it should, but you won't be able >to use more than 9600 Bd or so, and it requires some experimentation >with the TASKMGR.INI settings. Also, it is a good idea to have >FIFOed chips and good error correction. I've been using Dr-DOS 7.03 on high powered pentium systems since before it was disconyiniued. I have messed with using comm programs in Taskmgr multi-tasking windows for a looong time. I like to keep a mailer in one window, arachne ain another and load my tcpip before I load taskmgr. Its rare when it works without a problem. I have messed with the ini file till I'm blue in the face plues all the serial chips are 16550's. The fact is ( and caladera admits it in the docs) the serial implementation is crappy in Taskmgr. It needs to be rewritten. It doesn't properly task. They even tell you not to switch windows when the port is active- how silly is that? What good is multi-tasking if you can't do another task while one is running? However in spite of the serial port problems other things work great like listening to MP3's in the backgropund while your working plus any processing in the background. I love it. 'Its not your daddy's dos'[ that's for sure!!! Plus its great not having a gui to mess things up!! >Sorry, it is still not clear to me, there are many possible scenarios >and some important info is missing. I have two 1 gig 16 fat partitions, one is presently for win98 and dos, the other is presently being used for storage however it will be reformated for linux soon when I get around to installing it, One more 500 meg partition presently formatted with the linux file system however4 that will be reformatted for Minix and it installed when I get around to it then my big fat32 partition for data. Everything but minix will read FAT32 so I selected that as the common file system for all my operating systems. > >Let's see: You have a 2 Gb primary FAT16B CHS partition (ID 06h) >and a 6 Gb extended partition, and in there a 6 GB FAT32 partition. >You lost the remaining 2 Gb free space of your 10 Gb disk, as >accessing them would require LBA access. The bios on my libretto is limited to 8 gig. I didn't want to install a disk manager since the boot manager I had selected wouldn't work with one. However it was a crappy boot manager and I stopped using it so may end up finding a boot manager that works with a disk manager so will be using those wasted lost 2 gig. >Windows 98 sees both, C: (2 Gb) and D: (6 Gb), but MS-DOS/PC DOS >and DR-DOS (without DRFAT32 drivers) only see drive C:. This is Yes Dr-DOS doesn't natively see FAT32 >the reason why you use DRFAT32 to access the 6 Gb FAT32 partition >under DR-DOS as well, isn't it? (BTW. DRFAT32 works just fine >under any MS-DOS/PC DOS 3.30+ or DR DOS 5.0+.) >Is this a correct description of the scenario on your system? I was going to use PC-DOS 7 instead as the base dos and just use some things from other DOSes like taskmgr from DR-DOS and the fat32 drivfers since PC-DOS has great memory management however the Taskmgr was rebooting the system when I left it so switch to DR-DOS 7.03. Sucks because I lost the use of ramboost. >DR-DOS only, and thereby make the 2 Gb currently unused space >above the 8 Gb CHS barrier available to Windows. So, Windows >would see C: (2 Gb) and D: (2 Gb), while DR-DOS would see >a different set of drives also named D:..F: (all 2 Gb), >only the C: partition would be shared between the two OS. I don't want to repartition unless I install a disk manager to see the full drive. I definately will leave my big partition in for data though although that will be broken up at 8 gig so I have a hibernation section. > >useful option to get the most out of both, in particular if >you have harddisks much larger than 8 Gb and are setting up >a new system (it's easier then). I don't want 2 gig partitions for data. Too small.=3D20 >Only LBA-enabled OS like MS-DOS 7.10+ (Windows 95 OSR2, Windows 98, >Linux etc.) will be able to access the remainder of the disk. =3D46AT16 in a 8 gig drive would suck. It sucks at 2 gig. WAY too much wasted space. >(CHS). New extended partitions of type 0Fh (LBA) are invisible for >traditional DOSes, including DR-DOS (without DRFAT32 drivers). IBM says PC-DOS won't work on drives larger than 2 gig. Larger drives have to be partited into 2 gig partitions. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:24:34 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? Comments: To: Erwann ABALEA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erwann ABALEA" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:37 PM Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? > I use Linux regularly at work and at home, on different machines, and > the last time I ran X11 was some months ago. The virtual console of > Linux is a nice tool... You can have up to 64 of them on a standard PC. > So you can use Linux without using X11. I used to have Coherent on a computer just to play around with. That was my first exposer to virtual consoles. I think there were 8 available. It's a nice way to do things. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:42:13 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: resolution and need help with 95LX Comments: To: Julie Miley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Miley" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:11 AM Subject: resolution and need help with 95LX > Barry said: > > > The Aero is 640x480 and can't handle 256 colors at that resolution > > so I'll probably use mode 12h. It can't use 13h gracefully since > > it has fixed pixels at 640x480. > > Is that a laptop?? My laptop PC has res of only > 640x480! It won't support any more than 16 colors... > I've tried displaying a 24 color picture, and it's even too > much for the resolution to display properly. It's an old laptop. I think I remember that in the days when 640x480 (VGA) was used on computers 24 bit color required a very expensive card that only commercial graphic shops used. It was on the order of $10,000. The highest a normal card could go was 640x480 with 16 colors or 320x200 with 256 colors. But on a laptop only 640x480 was really practical because the pixels can't change size like they can on a CRT. > Oh, I'm new, here, and have a bit of a problem with my > 95LX palmtop. I bought it for 5 dollars at a garage sale, > so if this problem is unfixable, it's no big deal. > > Whoever had the palmtop before me did some Lotus > worksheets and saved them. No biggie, there. What IS > the biggie is they managed to save those files as read-only, > then somehow disabled the ATTRIB command in DOS. > I'd love to delete those files and free up some space, but > I've tried using the ATTRIB -r command, and it comes > up as a bad command. Ahhhh, this person also went in > and wrote a new command.com file, apparently disabling > some DOS commands. I can't delete the command.com > file, and I can't seem to get into SHELL to write a new > command file. DOS seems to recognize the FORMAT > command (didn't specify any parameters, just wanted to > see if DOS would say FORMAT is a bad command.) > I can type in the command $SYSMGR, but can't actually > get into the manager to get at the original DOS commands. On the 95 LX there are several 123 spreadsheets on C: that are actually in rom. If you use them you have to save them under a different name since they can't be overwritten. They look like they're on C: but they actually aren't and they also aren't using any of your drive space. Command.com is also in rom and not actually on C: and also can't be deleted. If you put a memory card (either sram or very old PCMCIA flash card) in the PCMCIA slot it will become A: and the system will check it first to find config.sys. If it finds config.sys it'll also load autoexec.bat from there. That lets you override a lot of the standard configuration. If you use flash memory it'll only use a few Sundisk cards (now Sandisk). You also need a special driver for it. That's on the Super site at http://www.palmtop.net/super.html. You'll find a lot of good stuff there including a lot of documentation on the 95lx and it's many mysteries. Also quite a bit of software. Welcome to the group. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:35:04 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: resolution and need help with 95LX In-Reply-To: <008c01c25364$8dd3d3e0$b30a3a40@excalibur> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, > Whoever had the palmtop before me did some Lotus > worksheets and saved them. No biggie, there. What IS > the biggie is they managed to save those files as read-only, > then somehow disabled the ATTRIB command in DOS. What are the filenames of these Worksheets? _CARLOAN.WK1, _CFLOW.WK1, _EXPENSE.WK1, _HOMEBUY.WK1 and _STAT.WK1? regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:06:07 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: LSPPP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue, 03.09.02 9:02 PM +0200 Hi friends, did anyone try to use the LSPPP packet driver on the LX? I would add it to SUPER if it's useable. Seems to be a very memory-economic thing, WATTCP compatible, thus might work with Goin' Postal on top, or isn't Goin'Postal WATTCP compatible? LSPPP can be found on http://members.tripod.com/~ladsoft/lsppp GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:10:19 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Multitasking! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue, 03.09.02 9:07 PM +0200 Hi friends, I found a DOS multitasker (real multitasking it seems), which I didn't try, but maybe someone else has the time and interest in trying this. The program is very small and recommended for the Atari Portfolio. It is called MT.COM. Calling several programs at once is done via MT.COM program1 + program2 + program3 The program can be found on http://www.palmzip.de/palmzip/multitae.htm or in German on http://www.palmzip.de/palmzip/multitas.htm GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:22:22 -0400 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Axel Berger wrote: > I have a question about that: I have been given a 486 notebook which > would in principle make an extremely nice DOS machine. Only the serial > ports ,bog standard 8255 I believe, don't work correctly and lose > characters, an interrupt problem I suppose. I can use stuff like Going > Postal ot nettamer in a W311 Dosbox though, so there must be a software > solution. Any hints (except "stick to gooey" that is)? Hello Axel, As Barry said, it is probably the Windows GUI slowing things down. Exit Windows 3.11 back to DOS and a lot of errors and conflicts should go away with time critical programs. The lost characters are probably occuring when Windows does some of its own processing and doesn't give the DOS box control in time to process the serial input. Also, watch out for TSR programs and system files being loaded in AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS. As I remember all soerts of things would conflict for no apparent reason. HIMEM.SYS, EMM386.EXE, and cache programs hook into the timer or interrupt chains and might slow things down too much. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:44:08 -0400 Reply-To: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O Subject: Re: Multitasking! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think I remember this one. It is only good for multitasking small = memory model programs (exec+data < 64K) ? > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu]On Behalf Of > Daniel Hertrich > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:10 PM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Multitasking! >=20 >=20 > Tue, 03.09.02 9:07 PM +0200 >=20 > Hi friends, >=20 > I found a DOS multitasker (real multitasking it seems), which I didn't > try, but maybe someone else has the time and interest in trying this. > The program is very small and recommended for the Atari Portfolio. It > is called MT.COM. >=20 > Calling several programs at once is done via >=20 > MT.COM program1 + program2 + program3 >=20 > The program can be found on > http://www.palmzip.de/palmzip/multitae.htm > or in German on > http://www.palmzip.de/palmzip/multitas.htm >=20 > GTX > daniel >=20 > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale >=20 > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >=20 >=20 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 22:47:10 +0200 Reply-To: Axel-Berger@Nexgo.De Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > As Barry said, it is probably the Windows GUI slowing > things down. Exit Windows 3.11 back to DOS and a lot of > errors and conflicts should go away with time critical > programs. The lost characters are probably occuring when > Windows does some of its own processing and doesn't give > the DOS box control in time to process the serial input. Yes, sounds very reasonable and is what I'd have expected. BUT on that machine it is the other way round: Work in box under Win3.11 but not in pure DOS. So I presume that some kind of driver or TSR is needed, which I probably lost reformatting and installing from scratch, and whose functionality is supplied by Win. (A bit like seeing my PCMCIA as drive G: in a DOSbox on this machine and not at all under pure DOS as I do not have DOS PCMCIA drivers installed.) > Also, watch out for TSR programs and system files being > loaded in AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS. As I remember all > soerts of things would conflict for no apparent reason. > HIMEM.SYS, EMM386.EXE, and cache programs hook into the > timer or interrupt chains and might slow things down too > much. Quite, but everything there is stuff I have used the same way on other machine, among them a nearly identical 486 desktop. It must be something about non standard onboard components. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 22:49:59 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Palrun ver 2 working full screen at 800 by 600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Musielewicz wrote: > When I switch palrun to 800 by 600 it looks > nicely in focus however everything is in a little 3 inch by 1.5 in box > in the upper left hand corner of the screen. The software must be aware of the PALRUN screen modes. AFAIK only my DEMO.COM program coming with PALRUN V2.0 is aware of all screen modes. Most PAL applications only use CGA (640x200) resolution and some D&A programs allow for VGA (640x480). Probably new D&A versions will make use of the new PALRUN 2.0 screen modes. At least Andreas Garzotto was informed by me. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 22:54:44 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Ericsson T39 and www/lx - experiences MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Werner 07h07m ago Werner Furlan wrote: > since some time I owe the Ericsson T39 and tried to establish Internet > Connections with the phone. > My first tries with IRDA were really disappointing, especially in GPRS > connections due to EME problems with the IRDA port of my HP200. > Lots of lost packets, broken connections and many Euros on my phone = bill. > Now I purchased a DRS-11 serial cable and things changed dramatically. > flawless quick connections with the disatvantage of a bulky cable. > PDU via IRDA works without problems. because the phone sends the SMS > after the infrared run (I think) and mostly I use it only for download > and not for sending SMS. I never had serious problems with IrDA Internet connections, be it GSM or GPRS. I almost always use GSM, since GPRS is simply too expensive. Sometimes I get unreliable connections, aborting suddenly, but trying anew and changing the position does often help. I put the phone and the LX about 20-30cm apart from each other. Never used a cable, though. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:34:28 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? Comments: To: Axel-Berger@Nexgo.De MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:47 PM Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? > Yes, sounds very reasonable and is what I'd have expected. BUT on that > machine it is the other way round: Work in box under Win3.11 but not in > pure DOS. So I presume that some kind of driver or TSR is needed, which > I probably lost reformatting and installing from scratch, and whose > functionality is supplied by Win. (A bit like seeing my PCMCIA as drive > G: in a DOSbox on this machine and not at all under pure DOS as I do not > have DOS PCMCIA drivers installed.) In that case it isn't hardware. As for drivers, most comm programs have their own serial port drivers since they have to be interrupt driven to have any speed and the bios serial drivers aren't. I think I'd try first with a standard kind of comm program and try to connect to some friend's computer over the phone line or a local bbs. Here's a link for commo on simtelnet. Qmodem is also on simtelnet. http://www.simtel.net/pub/pd/1144.html I just happened to find this quickl. Any good dos terminal program will do. Keep in mind that dos terminal programs have serious problems when working in a dos box under windows. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:37:30 -0700 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Palrun ver 2 working full screen at 800 by 600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > John Musielewicz wrote: > > > When I switch palrun to 800 by 600 it looks > > nicely in focus however everything is in a little 3 inch by 1.5 in box > > in the upper left hand corner of the screen. > > The software must be aware of the PALRUN screen modes. AFAIK > only my DEMO.COM program coming with PALRUN V2.0 is aware of > all screen modes. Most PAL applications only use CGA (640x200) > resolution and some D&A programs allow for VGA (640x480). > > Probably new D&A versions will make use of the new PALRUN 2.0 > screen modes. At least Andreas Garzotto was informed by me. I don't get it. I realize most software for the LX wasn't meant to be portable but if the dos display functions were used won't the program automagically adapt to the preset screen resolution? Does the INT5F functions treat the display differantly? They aren't in the SDK so I don't know what it does. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:05:07 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Multitasking! Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One hplx member modified a program by the same name and with the same function for use on the hplx. But I do not see the file on SUPER. I think I downloaded it once from his web site, but was unable to locate the reference in the archives. The one I am refering to divides actual availabe memory among several programs, and task switches among them (not multitask). Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:10 PM Subject: Multitasking! Tue, 03.09.02 9:07 PM +0200 Hi friends, I found a DOS multitasker (real multitasking it seems), which I didn't try, but maybe someone else has the time and interest in trying this. The program is very small and recommended for the Atari Portfolio. It is called MT.COM. Calling several programs at once is done via MT.COM program1 + program2 + program3 The program can be found on http://www.palmzip.de/palmzip/multitae.htm or in German on http://www.palmzip.de/palmzip/multitas.htm GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:15:37 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: ANN: The last few LED lights for sale! Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The one thing which has given me pause is the warning about how easy it is to break the wires. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 9:21 AM Subject: ANN: The last few LED lights for sale! Tue, 03.09.02 3:16 PM +0200 Hi friends, these are definitely the very last LED lights I sell, I have 7 of them left. For details see http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight Special price of 35 US Dollars for you list members, plus shipping. Payment via Paypal. Shipping to anywhere in the world, 6 US dollars without, 8 US dollars with registration. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:03:34 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Palrun ver 2 working full screen at 800 by 600 Comments: To: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Musielewicz" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:37 PM Subject: Re: Palrun ver 2 working full screen at 800 by 600 > I don't get it. I realize most software for the LX wasn't meant to be > portable but if the dos display functions were used won't the program > automagically adapt to the preset screen resolution? Does the INT5F > functions treat the display differantly? They aren't in the SDK so I don't > know what it does. Int 5Fh is used for graphics, not text. If you run a program that uses int 5Fh and the OS on that computer doesn't support that interrupt it usually locks up. I think PalRun provides the int 5Fh services to LX programs. The problem being described is probably more of a laptop problem caused by the fixed pixels in an LCD than a problem with int 5Fh. Because an LCD screen can't change the size of the pixels if the resolution used isn't proportional to the size of the screen, the screen can't actually adapt to it. For example, on my 640x480 laptop I can use the xmode that has a resoltion of 320x240. It just uses 4 pixels, 2 vertically by 2 horizontally, for each pixel the program wants. Actually some laptops can do that and some can't. But if the program calls for 320x200, MCGA mode 13, which nearly ever VGA on earth can do, there's no clean way to do it. It can either use 640x400 to use 4 pixels for one, as above, or it can leave 80 rows of pixels unused. Or it can use code in the bios to try to create 200 lines in the 480 lines by stretching the picture. But this works poorly at best. It makes the screen seem out of focus or distorts it in other ways. Most laptops today offer that stretching option. I sometimes use it for text screens but not often. Its ok on some screens and bad on others. But with graphics it's universally bad. This isn't a problem on a CRT because the pixel can become taller or wider as needed. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:14:37 +1000 Reply-To: "Prime, Peter" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Prime, Peter" Subject: Re: Parts kit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I just checked the paperwork. The parts kit was ordered on 3 Dec 2001, and I recieved the full kit on = 9 Jan 2002. Cost was $32 Aussie dollars Peter Prime=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Prime, Peter=20 > Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2002 4:08 PM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Parts kit >=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I am in Melbourne, Australia, and ordered one through HP=20 > Melbourne. It arrived after about 4 weeks.=20 >=20 > I would have thought that this was about a year ago, but I=20 > may be wrong. I'll check at home tonight. >=20 > > From: Paul Johnson [mailto:paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU] > > I tried to order one about a year ago through HPs website, they > > wouldn't sell one to anyone outside the USA or Canada if I remember > > correctly (I'm in Sydney, Australia). So I rang HP in Melbourne, > > thinking maybe they had some, they said they could order it in no > > problems, it would take ten days, I paid by credit card.=20 > > After a couple > > of weeks it still hadn't turned up, they said it should be=20 > here soon. > > After six weeks they finally told me I couldn't have it. Its=20 > > available, > > but only to the USA and Canada. I was a disgruntled customer. They > > refunded the money. > >=20 > > Paul Johnson ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:19:05 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? In-Reply-To: <005501c25391$c2d07580$070d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 3 Sep 2002 at 16:34, Barry wrote: > Keep in mind that dos terminal programs have serious problems when > working in a dos box under windows. > I use or have used a number of DOS "terminal" programs in a DOS box under Windows with no problems at all. These include Tapcis and Kermit (the terminal emulator from Columbia University) ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:55:39 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: resolution and need help with 95LX In-Reply-To: <3D74BD62.11784.A7CBB3@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 3 Sep 2002 at 13:47, Victor Roberts wrote: > On 3 Sep 2002 at 12:43, Victor Roberts wrote: > [snip] > > > > Command.com and attrib are in ROM. There is no way they can be deleted or changed. > > I suspect that you could use config.sys to point to a new command.com, but the original > > is still there as is attrib. Look in D:, which is the system ROM drive and you will find > > attrib. Then make sure that your PATH includes D: and any necessary sub-directory. (In > > my 200LX attrib is in D:\DOS but I don't remember if the same subdirectory is used in > > the 95LX. > > Well, my answer was not completely correct - at least regarding command.com. > Command.com is in D: which is the ROM drive but it gets copied to C: when the drive is > first initialized. Therefore you could change the copy of command.com that is actually > used just by placing another version in C:\. However, I the original is still in D: so you > can always restore the original. > > I liked the answer from someone who suggested that you just reformat the whole C: > drive. That will eliminate anything strange that the previous owner did and give you a > "factory fresh" C: drive. All the files needed to set up the machine are in ROM on D: and > will be loaded automatically. > Has it been so long since we have all used the 95LX that no one was going to correct me when I screwed up? The 95LX does not have a D: drive as I stated above. That is a feature of the 100LX and 200LX. In the 95LX, the files that appear like magic in the C: drive when batteries are first installed are in ROM. This includes command.com and a few 1-2-3 files. This is why they cannot be deleted and this also means that command.com cannot be changed. (But you can use config.sys to point to a different command processor.) ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:11:53 -0700 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > I just happened to find this quickl. Any good dos terminal program > Keep in mind that dos terminal programs have serious problems when > working in a dos box under windows. > > Barry Barry If you really want multi-tasking without a gui you shoud check out DR-DOS 7.03. I think it availible as a free downlown at www.drdos.net. It is really cool. I have it on my Libretto and with the connectivity pack and Post/LX it is like having a large size LX with multi-tasking. It does have some bugs so it isn't seamless like when Post/LX is run in CGA bmode the multtakser will lock up the system if you try to start a new task but mostly it works!!! John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:34:41 +1000 Reply-To: tpitman@southcom.com.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Pitman Subject: 95LX Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit While searching through some backup CDs for software last night, I found a 95lx program that I created several years ago. It's a hypertext viewer that can display text and simple graphics with links between files. If any 95lx users here are interested, I can supply the program and possibly even source code. Tim Pitman ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:58:28 +1000 Reply-To: tpitman@southcom.com.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Pitman Subject: 9210 - LX replacement? - maybe. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well I've had a Nokia 9210 for a few days now, and it just might become the replacement for my LX. I aim to write a full comparison review in a couple of months (...after university honours thesis and exams...) but here's a few quick points: First some background: I started with a 95lx about 7 years ago. Upgraded to a 100lx about 5 years ago. My main use has been software development, tinkering, lots of word processing! (of school and now uni assignments), a bit of PIM use and games (for uni lectures!). I've also owned or own a Palm III, IBM PC110, Toshiba Libretto, and Toshiba e570 pocket PC, so I've tried plenty of replacements. All have fallen short! This year I turned the 100lx into a 'Frankenstein' 100/200lx hybrid. Size: Significantly smaller than the LX, a bit lighter too. The keyboard has about the same size keys (no number pad) and while it isn't bad to type on, it's not quite up to the LX interms of tacktile feedback. As a phone, the thing is a brick compared to my Nokia 8850. (it's been nicknamed "the phone box" by one of my friends, I call it "the brick") Software: PIM stuff, spreadsheet, word processor, web browser, email (through wireless and linking to outlook) Matches or bettwers the LX in most ways except for database. There are some 3rd party database products that are very powerful, and I'll be trying them soon. Plenty of other software availible, and it supports Java. Speed: Faster CPU (32bit ARM @ 50MHZ) = Slower speed! While some things are actually faster, in general it's not up to my double speed LX's snappy performance for basic application use. PC emulation using the XTM software is roughly the same as a single speed LX, and the connectivity pack works giving access to LX applications. Screen: Beautiful 640 * 400 color screen. Colour is nice and bright. Smaller than the LX, but not too small. DOS programs look good running on it, and it's wonderful to have a backlight. Cost: This one was Australian $950 (About US$500) from Ebay. RRP is about $1500 here. This isn't too bad compared to LX replcement and upgrade costs. Development: I've installed the free basic-like language OPL for development on the device itself. Soon I'll be downloading the free PC- based SDK which allows development in Java and C++. Even got QBASIC on the emulator :) Internet: While it burns cash, wireless GSM internet is very nice. I also like being able to write SMS messages using a real keyboard. Extra pograms availible for telnet, ftp, ssh, vnc, irc, msn, aol etc. Memory: Only about 4MB free RAM for running programs, though programs are small compared to Windows CE (pocket PC). It also has about 4MB internal flash, and comes with a 16Mb MMC card. I've ordered a 64Mb MMC so that I can fit more stuff >;) So those are my impressions so far. I'm happy to anwer any questions about this device. Now to see if it really can replace my lx... Tim Pitman ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 22:20:58 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? Comments: To: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Musielewicz" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 7:11 PM Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? > If you really want multi-tasking without a gui you shoud check out DR-DOS > 7.03. I think it availible as a free downlown at www.drdos.net. It is really > cool. I have it on my Libretto and with the connectivity pack and Post/LX it > is like having a large size LX with multi-tasking. It does have some bugs so > it isn't seamless like when Post/LX is run in CGA bmode the multtakser will > lock up the system if you try to start a new task but mostly it works!!! Actually this began with my question about whether Dr-Dos or FreeDos might be suitable for what I want to do. I'm going to look at Dr-Dos. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:28:44 -0400 Reply-To: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O Subject: interesting subnote auction In-Reply-To: <2655.203.33.128.50.1031104708.squirrel@webmail.southcom.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anybody know how the lexmark mb-15 compares to the 200lx? Is it worth = the trouble to acquire? I had a OB 300 and got rid of it so I guess this = would be a waste of time for me. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2049790084 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:33:15 +1000 Reply-To: Al Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Subject: Back after 2 years, some questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi every one. After 2 years without an HPLX, it is good to be back on this list. I was using a Palm-pilot. I know have a 1Mg HP200LX. * is it possible to upgrade the screen. BACKLIGHT is the thing I really miss. (no, I do not want to use an external LED) *I plan to buy a Siemens ME45. is it compatible with the LX. yes I have been through the archive, but no sure what is the answer. thank you for reading ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:42:39 -0400 Reply-To: Werner Furlan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Werner Furlan Subject: Re: Ericsson T39 and www/lx - experiences Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi Daniel, you wrote: > I never had serious problems with IrDA Internet connections, be it GSM > or GPRS. I almost always use GSM, since GPRS is simply too expensive. > Sometimes I get unreliable connections, aborting suddenly, but trying > anew and changing the position does often help. > > I put the phone and the LX about 20-30cm apart from each other. > > Never used a cable, though. > so your Palmtop must be less susceptible to EME disturbances. I also noticed that GSM connections are more stable than GPRS, but I like the speed for a quick check of my mailbox in GPRS. It is expensive, thats right - but the amount of data I have to download is not so big. I download the headers, delete all the crap and download all I really want to see in the next run. greetings from Vienna, Werner -- mail powered by HP200/LX WWW/LX mailto:furlan@gmx.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:02:13 +0200 Reply-To: Ulrich Boche Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: Strange reboot problem Comments: To: Victor Roberts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Monday, 02.09.2002 at 09:51 AST, Victor Roberts wrote: > > So - what is happening? Do I have a hardware or a software > problem? > You didn't mention that you checked or replaced the backup battery. Could it be that your backup battery is bad? I have no experience with a bad backup battery because I change it yearly. Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:55:52 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Palrun ver 2 working full screen at 800 by 600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Musielewicz wrote: > I don't get it. I realize most software for the LX wasn't meant to be > portable but if the dos display functions were used won't the program > automagically adapt to the preset screen resolution? Does the INT5F > functions treat the display differantly? It is all up to the programmer. If the software was written for a 80x25 character screen (or 640x200 pixel graphics screen) in mind, the software "knows", that there is for example no line number 26, and if you use the cursor down key on line 25, the software scrolls the screen up by one line, or displays the next page or puts the cursor on line 1... It all depends on how it is programmed. PALRUN cannot do anything against it. But if the programmer first checks the screen mode and then uses a variable for the screen width and height accoring to the found screen mode (CGA, EGA, VGA, SVGA...), then it also works with PALRUN. But as I said, almost every programmer for the HP200LX only had the CGA screen in mind. I'd love to have a PE version supporting 800x600 screen mode. For the purpose of programming you cannot have enough source code information on your screen. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:04:04 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: ANN: The last few LED lights for sale! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Domingo, 09h39m ago Domingo wrote: > The one thing which has given me pause is the warning about how easy it = is > to break the wires. I warn everyone about that, but actually it isn't that sensible at all. I have my LED light now in use for about 3 years, packed it into bags, folded it a few times etc., and it is stll intact. I was always careful with it, but I accidentally bent the stiff wire a = lot of times in the night when the palmtop with attached LED light sits near me on the table and I beat it with the pillow or with my hand while sleeping. So I don't think this is a reason for not wanting to use it. But thanks that you pointed that out. Maybe I could make others more interested, too. ;-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:04:05 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: 95LX Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tim 06h28m ago Tim Pitman wrote: > While searching through some backup CDs for software last night, I = found a > 95lx program that I created several years ago. > > It's a hypertext viewer that can display text and simple graphics with > links between files. If any 95lx users here are interested, I can = supply > the program and possibly even source code. Great! If you like, send it to super@palmtop.net with a short description, your name and email address, version info and maybe even a screenshot. I'll then put it up on SUPER. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:41:36 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: 200LX Clock Speed Study Theodore Heise writes: > Note: after four weeks in the drawer (being powered on for a few > minutes each week), the single speed unit is still at eight bars > and the double speed has dropped to 2.46 volts (3-4 bars). Final update: the clock speed stayed constant. The double speed unit on alkalines had dropped to around 2.3 volts at week 5, and would not power on at week 6. The stock single speed was still at 8 bars at week 6. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:38:34 -0400 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: DR-DOS TASKMGR on HP LX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Axel Berger wrote: > Yes, sounds very reasonable and is what I'd have expected. BUT on that > machine it is the other way round: Work in box under Win3.11 but not in > pure DOS. So I presume that some kind of driver or TSR is needed, which > I probably lost reformatting and installing from scratch, and whose > functionality is supplied by Win. (A bit like seeing my PCMCIA as drive > G: in a DOSbox on this machine and not at all under pure DOS as I do not > have DOS PCMCIA drivers installed.) Oh, well, then it sounds like what you say, that something is being initialized under Windows and isn't under DOS. Which implies a "noisy" system. You say you are losing characters. Is it the same for both serial ports (assuming the two standard exist)? Are you sure it is a 8250A (or equivalent) and has no buffer? There is diagnostic software that can work with a loop-back plug or using another machine to test serial ports. I am not sure how you would test for proper functioning of the interrupt system. > > Also, watch out for TSR programs and system files being > > loaded in AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS. > > Quite, but everything there is stuff I have used the same way on other > machine, among them a nearly identical 486 desktop. It must be something > about non standard onboard components. Well, it may act differently on the laptop. You may want to experiment with no CONFIG.SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT programs and see if the problems stay the same, get better, or get worse. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:03:11 +0000 Reply-To: lloo@ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: lloo@ATT.NET Subject: Re: Multitasking! I think you're talking about MC.COM. I have that on my LX (the hacked version) and you're right, it's a task- switcher. But Daniel's link points to MT.COM for which the downloaded zip file (in German) mentions time-slicing, tho it emphasizes that it's primarily intended for multi- tasking interrupt-driven applications (ie measurement and commmunications) rather than interactive apps. Sorry, I don't have the time to investigate further and my German is pretty rusty. - Longden > One hplx member modified a program by the same name and with the same > function for use on the hplx. But I do not see the file on SUPER. I think > I downloaded it once from his web site, but was unable to locate the > reference in the archives. The one I am refering to divides actual > availabe memory among several programs, and task switches among them (not > multitask). > > Domingo > I found a DOS multitasker (real multitasking it seems), which I didn't > try, but maybe someone else has the time and interest in trying this. > The program is very small and recommended for the Atari Portfolio. It > is called MT.COM. > > Calling several programs at once is done via > > MT.COM program1 + program2 + program3 > > The program can be found on > http://www.palmzip.de/palmzip/multitae.htm ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:26:42 -0700 Reply-To: "Martin G. Ramirez" Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: MESSAGE-ID field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained. From: "Martin G. Ramirez" Subject: Greenwich serial-parallel cable In-Reply-To: <3D74A218.22475.3D2F1F@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_1124114==_.ALT" --=====================_1124114==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Everyone, I have a Greenwich Instruments GA945-HP serial-parallel cable which I am trying to use with my 200LX and parallel printers. For those of you who have such a cable, I have a question about its use to print from regular DOS applications running from the A: prompt. I have followed the instructions on the Greenwich website concerning configuration of my 200LX (http://www.greenwichinst.com/ga945hp.html) and have been able to print from Sys Manager applications like Memo. However, when I terminate Sys Manager (Terminate All) and go to the DOS prompt (A:), I have been able to print from only two applications [PC Tools Desktop ver 9.0; ALite (a spreadsheet)]. With other applications (e.g. WordStar 7.0; WordPerfect 5.1+; MS Word 6.0; Quattro Pro 4.0), issuing a print command produces no output. This is true with two printers I have tested, an Epson LQ-570+ and a Brother M-1109 (in Epson FX-85 mode). Does anyone have an idea what the problem is here? With the 4 presently non-printing applications I have listed, do I need to select somewhat different printer drivers for printing to work with the 200LX and the GA945HP? Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom, Martin ============================ Dr. Martin G. Ramirez Department of Biology Loyola Marymount University One LMU Drive, MS 8220 Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659, U.S.A. (310) 338-5120 FAX: (310) 338-4479 e-mail: mramirez@lmu.edu ============================= --=====================_1124114==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Everyone,

I have a Greenwich Instruments GA945-HP serial-parallel cable which I am trying to use with my 200LX and parallel printers.  For those of you who have such a cable, I have a question about its use to print from regular DOS applications running from the A: prompt.   

I have followed the instructions on the Greenwich website concerning configuration of my 200LX (http://www.greenwichinst.com/ga945hp.html) and have been able to print from Sys Manager applications like Memo.  However, when I terminate Sys Manager (Terminate All) and go to the DOS prompt (A:), I have been able to print from only two applications [PC Tools Desktop ver 9.0; ALite (a spreadsheet)].  With other applications (e.g. WordStar 7.0; WordPerfect 5.1+; MS Word 6.0; Quattro Pro 4.0), issuing a print command produces no output.  This is true with two printers I have tested, an Epson LQ-570+ and a Brother M-1109 (in Epson FX-85 mode).  Does anyone have an idea what the problem is here?  With the 4 presently non-printing applications I have listed, do I need to select somewhat different printer drivers for printing to work with the 200LX and the GA945HP? 

Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom,
Martin



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Dr. Martin G. Ramirez
Department of Biology
Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8220
Los Angeles, CA  90045-2659, U.S.A.
(310) 338-5120
FAX: (310) 338-4479
e-mail: mramirez@lmu.edu
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--=====================_1124114==_.ALT-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:50:33 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Greenwich serial-parallel cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain The other software might be set to print to a parallel port. You either need to setup the software for printing serial, or use Mode to redirect Lpt1: to Com1: Try: Mode lpt1=com1 -----Original Message----- From: Martin G. Ramirez [mailto:mramirez@LMU.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:27 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Greenwich serial-parallel cable Everyone, I have a Greenwich Instruments GA945-HP serial-parallel cable which I am trying to use with my 200LX and parallel printers. For those of you who have such a cable, I have a question about its use to print from regular DOS applications running from the A: prompt. I have followed the instructions on the Greenwich website concerning configuration of my 200LX (http://www.greenwichinst.com/ga945hp.html) and have been able to print from Sys Manager applications like Memo. However, when I terminate Sys Manager (Terminate All) and go to the DOS prompt (A:), I have been able to print from only two applications [PC Tools Desktop ver 9.0; ALite (a spreadsheet)]. With other applications (e.g. WordStar 7.0; WordPerfect 5.1+; MS Word 6.0; Quattro Pro 4.0), issuing a print command produces no output. This is true with two printers I have tested, an Epson LQ-570+ and a Brother M-1109 (in Epson FX-85 mode). Does anyone have an idea what the problem is here? With the 4 presently non-printing applications I have listed, do I need to select somewhat different printer drivers for printing to work with the 200LX and the GA945HP? Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom, Martin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:09:03 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Multitasking! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, right. Here is the link I was refering to, in case anyone was interested: http://www.diku.dk/students/laustbn/ Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: > I think you're talking about MC.COM. I have that on my > LX (the hacked version) and you're right, it's a task- > switcher. > > But Daniel's link points to MT.COM for which the > downloaded zip file (in German) mentions time-slicing, > tho it emphasizes that it's primarily intended for multi- > tasking interrupt-driven applications (ie measurement > and commmunications) rather than interactive apps. > > Sorry, I don't have the time to investigate further and > my German is pretty rusty. > > - Longden > > > One hplx member modified a program by the same name and with the same > > function for use on the hplx. But I do not see the file on SUPER. I think > > I downloaded it once from his web site, but was unable to locate the > > reference in the archives. The one I am refering to divides actual > > availabe memory among several programs, and task switches among them (not > > multitask). > > > > Domingo > > > > I found a DOS multitasker (real multitasking it seems), which I didn't > > try, but maybe someone else has the time and interest in trying this. > > The program is very small and recommended for the Atari Portfolio. It > > is called MT.COM. > > > > Calling several programs at once is done via > > > > MT.COM program1 + program2 + program3 > > > > The program can be found on > > http://www.palmzip.de/palmzip/multitae.htm > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:15:19 +0200 Reply-To: Matthias Paul Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Matthias Paul Organization: Aachen University of Technology (RWTH), Germany Subject: Revising 140 lines mail length limit? (Was: Re: Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2002-09-03, John Musielewicz wrote: > Had to snip alot. Ran ito the 140 line length limit. Yes, same here. My 3rd part of the description did not came through as well - again. I think, 140 lines are not a very reasonable limit any more, in particularly not, because they count in the header, about which the poster has no control... A 15 or 20 Kb size limit and banning HTML stuff would make more sense IMHO, so people can also post more comprehensive articles, if useful. Also, I would prefer the /list's/ address to be showing up when I hit "reply" instead of the original /poster's/ address... More convenient for a mailing list, I would think. Other's seem to have similar problems, because I get some of the mails doubled right now. This in counterproductive because it actually increases the traffic, instead of decreasing it... But then, I may not be fully accustomed to the long established rules in this forum, yet. So take it as a suggestion, not as a complaint. Greetings, Matthias --=20 ; http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html; http://mpaul.drdos.org "Programs are poems for computers." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:05:35 +0200 Reply-To: Matthias Paul Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Matthias Paul Organization: Aachen University of Technology (RWTH), Germany Subject: How to use DR-DOS extended partition type C5h to optimize disk utilization on huge harddisks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In reply to John Musielewicz's post "Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS" on 2002-09-02, although, as we know now, not directly addressing his problem: The C5h partition ID trick works with any DR DOS 6.0+. It will not work with other DOSes, but at least it will not cause problems with them as well. Using this trick, DR-DOS can, without drivers, utilize up to 8 Gb per harddisk via CHS, while at the *same* time the remainder of the disk remains available for use by other, LBA-enabled, systems. Say, you have a 30 Gb disk, you could use 8 Gb for DR-DOS and 22 Gb for Windows 98. Without the C5h trick you could use only 2 Gb for DR-DOS (or MS-DOS/PC DOS) and 28 Gb for Windows. This is how it works (I am assuming here that you want to maximize the DR-DOS disk space - in case you want a different DOS versus Windows disk space ratio, just create a smaller 05h/C5h extended partition): - Install DR-DOS 7.03 as usual. - Create a 2 Gb CHS-FAT16B boot partition and a 6 Gb CHS extended partition to use up the whole first 8 Gb of the disk. It is important, that you use CHS-partition types, not the newer LBA-types. Then create FAT16B logical drives in the extended partition (for example three volumes =E1 2 Gb). The DR-DOS FDISK is ideal for this purpose, since you have full control over the CHS values and it also formats the volumes in one go. - Now use a disk editor (or DEBUG) to patch the partition table in the MBR so that the extended partition entry 05h becomes C5h. This will make this extended partition and all logical drives in there invisible to all operating systems other than DR-DOS. Under DR-DOS you can use them just as usual, except for, that they are not listed in FDISK and are hidden after a floppy boot. This is on purpose, since the partition type C5h is usually used for secured partitions. (We could also create such a partition by enabling system security in DR-DOS INSTALL/SETUP, but then no other operating system would be able to use the *whole* system. Hence we just use the "secured" partition /type/ without actually securing the system.) The boot partition will remain visible to all operating systems, of course. - Now install a LBA-enabled operating system like Windows 98 SE and run its FDISK utility to create another extended partition. It will not complain about the old extended partition, because it sees a C5h partition as an unknown primary partition of 6 Gb size, not as an extended partition any more. The new LBA extended partition will have a partition ID 0Fh (instead of 05h) and you can use up all the remaining space on the disk and create FAT16, FAT32, HPFS, NTFS, ext2fs partitions in there just as you like, etc. It is worth noting, that since the primary FAT16B partition and the secured extended partition are already using up the first 8 Gb of the disk, this new extended partition will start above the 8 Gb barrier, so you can actually use up all the space. - Copy the DR-DOS LOADER.COM and BOOT.LST files from the C:\DRDOS\ directory into the root, and on the plain MS-DOS C:\> prompt run "LOADER boot.lst". This will install LOADER and you can choose between DR-DOS and Windows 9x on every boot. (You can also specify timeout and defaults, but I will skip the explanation here.) Rename the DR-DOS CONFIG.SYS file into DCONFIG.SYS and edit it so that the SHELL=3D directive will refer to the COMMAND.COM in the C:\DRDOS\ directory and /P:AUTODOS7.BAT instead of AUTOEXEC.BAT. When you boot into Windows, you will see drive C: and all the logical drives in the new type 0Fh extended partition. When you boot into DR-DOS, you will see neither of them except for C:, but instead you will see all the logical drives in the C5h (05h) extended partition. So you have up to 8 Gb per harddisk to be utilized by DR-DOS without loosing the remainder of the disk for the other systems. This should give you the freedom to move all the DOS stuff into the "hidden" volumes, so that C: will be almost completely free for Windows stuff again, and you still don't need any FAT32 drives for DR-DOS... C: will be the "scratch pad" partition if you have to move stuff between the DR-DOS and the Windows world. Another positive effect is that Windows will no longer be able to pollute DR-DOS partitions with long filenames, so you can take full advantage of file and directory passwords or deletion tracking under DR-DOS. Windows crashes can also no longer affect anything stored in the DR-DOS partitions. In case you need to use a low-level disk tool use can easily patch the C5h type back to 05h while using this utility and change it back to C5h afterwards. It is not recommended to leave it as 05h, because this situation may confuse some programs. - Since each OS will see the other extended partition as unknown primary partition, this setup is save and does not confuse any disk tools = (only one extended partion is allowed, officially). Unfortunately, this trick is only possible with DR DOS 6.0+, not with MS-DOS/PC DOS. If you add one of them to LOADER or Windows dual boot, they are only able to see the boot partition C: and neither the logical volumes in the type C5h nor the volumes in the type 0Fh extended partition. I hope this was not too off-topic in this list and helps to get the most out of your desktop DOS setup and therefore consequently also the HP LX. I also hope, that, after much reformatting, it finally goes through the 140 lines gate keeper. ;-) Greetings, Matthias --=81 ; http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html; http://mpaul.drdos.org "Programs are poems for computers." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:01:29 +0200 Reply-To: Matthias Paul Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Matthias Paul Organization: Aachen University of Technology (RWTH), Germany Subject: Re: Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2002-09-03, John Musielewicz wrote: > I like to keep a mailer in one window, arachne ain another and > load my tcpip before I load taskmgr. Its rare when it works > without a problem. I have messed with the ini file till I'm > blue in the face Hm, have you loaded [Drivers] VxD=3D...\VTCPIP.386 (virtual device driver for TCP/IP) and/or VxD=3D...\VNCOMX.386 (virtual device driver for serial ports) in TASKMGR.INI? The former ships with Novell's LAN Workplace for DOS, NetWare Mobile, and - I think - Caldera's TCP/IP pack for DOS, the latter with Caldera's DR-WebSpyder. In general, it may be a good idea to increase the background priority by [Slice] Foreground=3D1 TickRate=3D1. If you only have one application using the serial port, it may be a good idea to disable virtualization and ownership management of the serial ports by setting the [COMx] Timeout=3D0, otherwise try Timeout=3D65534 and 65535. > The fact is ( and caladera admits it in the docs) the serial > implementation is crappy in Taskmgr. It needs to be rewritten. > It doesn't properly task. The dynamic port ownership assignments work fine (the rules are documented in the SBK manuals, see also http://www.drdos.org for the multitasker guide), but this does not solve all of the problems, admitted. What would be required is a virtual UART implemented in software and a queueing mechanism, which queues the serial traffic in real-time in the background, so that the chip hardware and the virtual implementation of the chip are somewhat decoupled. At the moment the virtualization is a synchronous implementation, and with the overhead involved for VM multitasking this appears to be not fast enough in practise, at least not for higher baud rates. > The bios on my libretto is limited to 8 gig. I didn't want to install > a disk manager since the boot manager I had selected wouldn't work > with one. However it was a crappy boot manager and I stopped using it > so may end up finding a boot manager that works with a disk manager > so will be using those wasted lost 2 gig. The LOADER shipping with DR-DOS allows to multi-boot up to 20 different issues out of MS-DOS/PC DOS (before 3.3), OS/2, CP/M-86, Concurrent CP/M-86, Concurrent DOS, FlexOS, Multiuser DOS, DR DOS, Novell DOS, OpenDOS, DR-DOS, etc. plus one other system, which can be anything that gets loaded by the normal boot sector, including MS-DOS/PC DOS = 3.3+, Windows 95/98/SE/ME, Windows NT/2K/XP, Linux, BeOS, etc. You can also specify timeouts and defaults. Since LOADER installs into the "virtual" MBR provided by DiskManager, it is compatible with most disk BIOS enhancers like DiskManager etc. which install into the physical MBR. All you have to do is first install DiskManager, than LOADER. LOADER is also compatible with most other second-stage boot loaders. You will still have to check compatibility of DiskManager with Linux etc. > I was going to use PC-DOS 7 instead as the base dos and just use some > things from other DOSes like taskmgr from DR-DOS and the fat32 > drivfers since PC-DOS has great memory management however the Taskmgr > was rebooting the system when I left it so switch to DR-DOS 7.03. Left what? IBM PC DOS 7 & 2000 are very mature & recommendable DOS operating = systems and the memory management is very good (compared to MS-DOS), but still, DR-DOS will usually give you at least as much, often even more memory, in particular if you load KEYB, NLSFUNC, SHARE, and COMMAND.COM into the HMA, squezze the HMA utilization with the new SHELLHIGH SIZE=3Dxxxx parameter, load high FILES and FCBS using the new FILESHIGH=3D and FCBSHIGH=3D directives, use tricks like EMM386 /USE=3DF000-F7FF = /FRAME=3DE800 to map the page frame over the ROM-BIOS setup program (saves 32 Kb of memory), and take full advantage of all the drivers using DPMS (DOS Protected Mode Services) or EMS. Of course, it depends, which components you need and use... > Sucks because I lost the use of ramboost. RAMBOOST plays circles around MS-DOS MEMMAKER, and provides most of the above tricks as well, but in virtually all cases, you can achieve similar (or better) results by manually fine-tuning the memory management. Question: Since RAMBOOST is actually from Central Point's PC Tools, doesn't RAMBOOST work fine on DR-DOS as well? Greetings, Matthias PS. "PC-DOS" (with hyphen) is a trademark of DEC, that's why IBM calls their operating system IBM PC DOS, not PC-DOS. --=20 ; http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html; http://mpaul.drdos.org "Programs are poems for computers." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:59:16 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Revising 140 lines mail length limit? (Was: Re: Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS) Comments: To: Matthias Paul MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Paul" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:15 AM Subject: Revising 140 lines mail length limit? (Was: Re: Running the connectivity pack under Dr-DOS) > My 3rd part of the description did not came through as well - > again. I think, 140 lines are not a very reasonable limit any > more, in particularly not, because they count in the header, > about which the poster has no control... I get caught by that 140 line limit a lot, too. I tend to be longwinded and sometimes I get sloppy about not clipping the post I'm replying to. I think it's a reasonable length and it helps me remember not to be so sloppy. I'm glad it's there. Sometimes when I'm reading I wish it was a lower limit. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:07:52 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Revising 140 lines mail length limit? (Was: Re: Running the,connectivity pack under Dr-DOS) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matthias Paul wrote: > On 2002-09-03, John Musielewicz wrote: > > Had to snip alot. Ran ito the 140 line length limit. > > Yes, same here. > > My 3rd part of the description did not came through as well - > again. I think, 140 lines are not a very reasonable limit any > more, in particularly not, because they count in the header, > about which the poster has no control... Are you sure the header is included? I thought lines started being counted after the 1st blank line which ends the header. I like the limit myself, I remember when really big posts showed up and that just causes the archives to grow and makes it difficult to handle on a small LX. I also like the reply as is. We used to have it the other way and alot more OT stuff ended up in the list that should have been an offline thread. What I did is put the list's email address at the top of my address book so it's easy to find if I want to reply back to the list. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:14:18 +0800 Reply-To: JIMMY TAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JIMMY TAN Subject: Fluff: OpenOffice.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody, Just a quick survey - how many of us have started to use Open Office, and how many are still entrenched in Micro$oft Office? Thanks in advance. Jimmy. ****************************************************************** This message is intended only for the use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is priviledged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any use, review, disclosure or copying of this message and the information it contains is prohibited. If you receive the message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and discard all its contents. Thank You. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:30:54 +1000 Reply-To: Al Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Subject: Mobil Siemens ME45 and HPLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am thinking to buy this phone. can you comment? want to use it fro browsing internet and email. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 23:31:51 -0500 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org Comments: To: JIMMY TAN In-Reply-To: <3954562079@smtp.yeos.com.my> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jimmy I am a 'going to' user. I still use MS Office 97 however I speciffically upgraded my computer to one that supports 64 meg of ram so I can use OpenOffice. I just haven't downloaded it yet. I also use WP 6 for dos. John On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:14:18 +0800, you wrote: >Hi everybody, > >Just a quick survey - how many of us have started to use Open Office, = and how >many are still entrenched in Micro$oft Office? > >Thanks in advance. > >Jimmy. >****************************************************************** >This message is intended only for the use of the person(s) to >whom it is addressed and may contain information that is >priviledged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are >not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any use, >review, disclosure or copying of this message and the information >it contains is prohibited. If you receive the message in error, >please notify the sender by reply e-mail and discard all its >contents. Thank You. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:55:11 +0800 Reply-To: JIMMY TAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JIMMY TAN Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org Comments: To: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi John, I would advise you to get upgrade to 128MB if you can. Of course, the more, the better. 64MB is OK but you might find it a bit too slow... Thanks for replying. Jimmy. ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org Author: "John Musielewicz" Date: 2002-09-05 12:31 PM Hi Jimmy I am a 'going to' user. I still use MS Office 97 however I speciffically upgraded my computer to one that supports 64 meg of ram so I can use OpenOffice. I just haven't downloaded it yet. 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Thank You. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 07:01:16 +0200 Reply-To: Nels.Sennmark@TELIA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Digest Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: Ericsson T39 and www/lx - experiences Comments: To: Werner Furlan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a lot of problem with my nokia 8210 and disturbance. But they all go away when I hold the phone, covering the display with the palm of my hand and covering the antenna on the back of the phone with the fingers while mailing. > My first tries with IRDA were really disappointing, especially in GPRS > connections due to EME problems with the IRDA port of my HP200. > Lots of lost packets, broken connections and many Euros on my phone = bill. > Now I purchased a DRS-11 serial cable and things changed dramatically. > flawless quick connections with the disatvantage of a bulky cable. > PDU via IRDA works without problems. because the phone sends the SMS > after the infrared run (I think) and mostly I use it only for download > and not for sending SMS. > > cheers, Werner > > -- > mail powered by HP200/LX WWW/LX > mailto:furlan@gmx.net > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:51:05 -0700 Reply-To: patrick@west.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org Comments: To: JIMMY TAN In-Reply-To: <3954562079@smtp.yeos.com.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:14:18 +0800, JIMMY TAN wrote: >Hi everybody, > >Just a quick survey - how many of us have started to use Open >Office, and how many are still entrenched in Micro$oft Office? > If I don't need to exchange it with anyone else, DeScribe & Lotus= 1-2-3 Acrobat for some stuff that people need to see, and M$ Office97 &= 2000 And VB6 (some VBdos for home use) -- Patrick West, patrickwest3@attbi.com on 09/04/2002 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:53:31 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Ericsson T39 and www/lx - experiences In-Reply-To: <200209050501.HAA19559@d1o913.telia.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 42m ago Tomas Moberg wrote: > I had a lot of problem with my nokia 8210 and disturbance. > But they all go away when I hold the phone, covering the > display with the palm of my hand and covering the antenna > on the back of the phone with the fingers while mailing. Hi Tomas - it was the same here. However I think this makes it harder for the phone to work, and probably makes it draw more power from its battery. -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:00:01 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Mobil Siemens ME45 and HPLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 02h11m ago Al wrote: > I am thinking to buy this phone. > can you comment? > want to use it fro browsing internet and > email. And from your prior posting: > *I plan to buy a Siemens ME45. > is it compatible with the LX. > yes I have been through the archive, > but no sure what is the answer. It is compatible in general. Maybe http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx = will help you. If it is good for our purposes depends on what you want to do = with it. The Siemens phones in general work best with a data cable connection, = not so well using IrDA. If you decide to use a data cable (http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/s25_hplx tells how to make one, I sold several cables to list members, maybe there is someone who doesn't need = it anymore?), you can use Nettamer for browsing the web (it's not so user-friendly) and Goin' Postal, which is a very good progam IMO, or the email client of Nettamer for email. You can of course also buy the superior program WWW/LX with Post/LX from D&A Software www.dasoft.com, if you want a mature, reliable and _Very_ flexible and expandable software package. See http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/wwwlx WWW/LX is absolutely necessary if you want to use IrDA. But I don't recommend IrDA on Siemens phones. See my mob_hplx page above. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:00:03 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 02h37m ago JIMMY TAN wrote: > Just a quick survey - how many of us have started to use Open Office, = and how > many are still entrenched in Micro$oft Office? I stopped using Microsoft Office years ago when I entirely switched to Linux. On Linux I write almost everything with LaTeX, for other office stuff (spreadsheet mainly), I used Staroffice on Linux, but a few months back switched to Openoffice. I only use it rarely, becaus emost of the stuff I need to do can be done nicer and faster and mor mobile with the palmtop's software (Lotus, LXTeX) or LaTeX on the Linux machine. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:00:04 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Greenwich serial-parallel cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 15h03m ago Feldman, Robert wrote: > The other software might be set to print to a parallel port. You either = need > to setup the software for printing serial, or use Mode to redirect = Lpt1: to > Com1: > Try: > Mode lpt1=3Dcom1 From my experiences, LPT1 is already redirected to COM1 by default. Everytime I printed to LPT1 without using any mode command, the outout went to the serial port. Also PRN: is by default directed to the serial port. Martin: If some applications do not print, while others do, I would first make sure the serial port is powred, by using a batch file and Stefan Peichl's setcom1 to call the program program.exe: @echo off setcom1 5nw rem above setcom1 5nw sets the serial port to on, 9600, wired, 8n1 program.exe setcom1 o rem the above setcom1 o switches the serial port off You can get setcom1 on peichl.hplx.net or www.palmtop.net GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:24:36 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Ericsson T39 and www/lx - experiences Comments: To: Nels.Sennmark@telia.com In-Reply-To: <200209050501.HAA19559@d1o913.telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable hi Nels, Nels.Sennmark@telia.com schrieb =FCber Re: Ericsson T39 and www/lx -=20 experiences: > I had a lot of problem with my nokia 8210 and disturbance. > But they all go away when I hold the phone, covering the display with > the palm of my hand and covering the antenna on the back of the phone > with the fingers while mailing. >=20 I tried all distances between phone and HP200, holding my hands=20 everywhere, to no avail. The only thing that really cured the problem was a shielded cable.=20 What would probably also help, is a external antenna for the phone,=20 but I don't have one to try. By the way, when I have a GPS connection with Post/lx, when=20 connecting in the first handshake line I always get [bad FCS] twice. Does anybody know what this means? cheers,=20 Werner -- =20 PGP-Key: SMS: <+436646340014@text.mobilkom.at> Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:31:57 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Ericsson T39 and www/lx - experiences In-Reply-To: <3D7722D4.3724.23F976@localhost> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 55m ago Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > By the way, when I have a GPS connection with Post/lx, > when connecting in the first handshake line I always get > [bad FCS] twice. Does anybody know what this means? I forget exactly what the "FCS" means but I used to get it when dialing Compuserve until I got the dial-in script finely tuned, delaying the start of PPP negotiation a little. That "[bad FCS]" message indicates the script could perhaps benefit from a "@ 1" at the end, not that it matters too much as the unexpected packets are discarded, and WWW.EXE automatically adjusts. In fact, I think WWW.EXE has always adjusted for this particular condition - the latest version is more explicit in showing this. What you can do is look closely at a log and see which characters trigger this - possibly the script needs to wait till a certain ascii string has been received (often something like "PPP"). Fixing this would only possibly save a second or so though. Probably the "S" in "FCS" stands for "sum". -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:35:33 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Organization: Goeldi.com Subject: CPACK on Linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anybody point me into the right direction for running CPACK200 under Linux? There are DOSEMU and WINE. One of them may enable me to run CPACK200. TIA Stephan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:51:23 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: keyboard remapping question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi all, I have a german HP200 LX with an english motherboard and my german keys are remapped with key200 in autoexec.bat. I am happy with it, but yesterday I needed the calculator and wanted to use the sqare root function, and it took me 15 minutes to find out that the remapped Y-Z characters had also remapped the square root function, which was on the (english) Z and now shifted to the german Z. Well, for the next 2 or 3 weeks I will not forget this, but then? Is it possible to switch the square root function back to the designed key without remapping Y/Z? cheers, Werner -- PGP-Key: SMS: <+436646340014@text.mobilkom.at> Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:20:52 +0200 Reply-To: Zoran Vignjevic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Zoran Vignjevic Subject: Re: Ericsson T39 and www/lx - experiences MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tony Hutchins wrote: > Probably the "S" in "FCS" stands for "sum". > > Maybe this? FCS (FRAME CHECK SEQUENCE) is a checksum used for error detection. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:27:33 +0800 Reply-To: Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Basic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Everyone, My advance apologies for replying to an old topic. But I'm really running late in reading the digests (like more than a month). I agree with John that Power Basic is a great language and the bloat is no longer there. Although I dabble every now and then as a hobby with Power Basic for Windows, I have Power Basic for DOS just sitting somewhere. Planned before to convert all my Quick Basic programs to Power Basic to take advantage of the feature that I don't have to lug a runtime library but never got to do it. Now, my HP related question. Has someone, or could someone translate the PAL libraries to something us Basic programmers could use? I had a project or two before that I wanted to program to be system manager compliant (EXM). I know I've asked this question a long time ago and the response was it was easier to learn C than to translate the PAL library. I was hoping this would change and some good samaritan would modify them for me and some of those in the future with minute programming skills. best regards to everyone in this great list, bud Favor, could pepol who reply please carbon copy my private email a copy. That way I can read them immediately. Many thanks. >Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:20:14 +0200 >From: Daniel Hertrich >Subject: Re: Networking and PPP on with Minix [part 2/2] > >Hi John > >03h11m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > >> Heh- I like basic because it is so simple to write programs. Plus a = >nice >> basic like power basic compiles the programs. > >Basic is nice for developers, because it is easy to write. But it is >not nice for the users, because te EXEs get pretty big, because the >runtime basic is compiled in, AFAIK. > >C is better regarding EXE file size, and it is a bit harder to program. > >And the best for the user is of course assembler. Small, fast. But not >that easy to write. Right, Stefan? ;-) > >What the programmer saves once in time to write the program, all users >have to spend as disk space and execution time. >The worst in this respect are of course scripting languages, were you >ave to ave a separate interpreter and which usually run extremely slow, >compared to lower-level programming languages. >But they are of course very flexible for quick-and-dirty jobs. > >So, all, learn Assembler!! (I always wanted to learn it too, but could >never afford the time, so I'm still writing my small filter programs in >C :-( > >GTX >daniel > >-- >http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact >http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:16:22 -0500 >From: John Musielewicz >Subject: Re: Networking and PPP on with Minix [part 2/2] > > > >Hmm..I compiled a hello world program in C version 2.0 fordos and it was 9k. >I compiled a hello world program in power basic 3.5 for dos and it was 15k. >Not all that much bigger. A hello world program in Forth was 18k.. >Basic was the easiest to write at one line. Bloat seems inherant in high >level languages no matter which you use. > >John > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 08:38:47 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Oliver Chua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Chua" To: Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:27 AM Subject: Basic > Now, my HP related question. Has someone, or could someone translate the > PAL libraries to something us Basic programmers could use? I had a project > or two before that I wanted to program to be system manager compliant (EXM). I don't think you can make system manager compliant programs with PAL. It makes DOS programs that look like system manager programs but they run in normal DOS. And you're right that it will be easier to learn C. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:56:53 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Back after 2 years, some questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Al, Welcome back to the list (although I have not know you before), About the backlight, I believe Daniel Hertrich is working to make it work now (and, if I'm right about him, he will make (or allready has made) a page on his internet site http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ about his experiences). I'm unable to check it now, for his site seems to be down (16:50, gmt+1). He also has information on connecting a mobile phone to his palmtop, he has tried it with a s35(?) which might be compatible with your ME35. Again, check Daniels site :). If have seen this model number in recent posts, I think. I will spit around a bit. Good luck, Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 7:33 AM Subject: Back after 2 years, some questions > Hi every one. > After 2 years without an HPLX, > it is good to be back on this list. > I was using a Palm-pilot. > I know have a 1Mg HP200LX. > > * is it possible to upgrade the screen. > BACKLIGHT is the thing I really miss. > (no, I do not want to use an external LED) > > *I plan to buy a Siemens ME45. > is it compatible with the LX. > yes I have been through the archive, > but no sure what is the answer. > > thank you for reading > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:13:18 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Back after 2 years, some questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niels" > About the backlight, I believe Daniel Hertrich is working to make it work > now (and, if I'm right about him, he will make (or allready has made) a page > on his internet site http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ about his experiences). What about David Sargeant's work? It is my understanding that he was about ready for production, except for the problem with removing the original screen reliably every time. I know he currently has more pressing concerns, but perhaps the information he has would help avoid reinventing the wheel. But then perhaps Daniel already has this information. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:36:39 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: OT: How to setup a DOS partition under XP? Comments: To: Michael Kopplin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kopplin" > > because for some reason MSDOS from the floppy cannot see any of the > > partitions at all (the first one is NTFS, and the second one is Linux, the > > Have you hidden those first two partitions, and set your new dos > partition as active, or bootable? DOS looks for the first > primary partition and gets confused when there is more than one > visible. You can change the settings in linux. > > I have 3 partitions with win98 and one with linux, and this is > what worked for me. Don't know anything about XP though, or if > it can manage hiding and unhiding partitions. I use lilo, and it > works great. Hmm . . . maybe I should have let lilo handle things. Partition Magic can hide partitions, but for some reason the only partition it will let me hide is the one I wan to add (the DOS one). That option is grayed out for the other ones (even when booting with the PM boot floopies). I don't know how to do that in Linux, but I would be willing to try (if the NT boot loader would not be compromised by hiding the XP partition). I have Linux because I can, not because I know much about it. I removed Boot Magic, which could do the job, because it wants to reside in its own primary partition, in front of the XP primary partition and the XP hibernation primary partition, AND the extended partition, which is also primary (as you can see, too many primary partitions!). Thanks for any and all suggestions. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:58:09 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Oliver Chua In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20020905080041.006a6dd4@mindgate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>or two before that I wanted to program to be system manager >>compliant (EXM). the PAL library does NOT make .exm programs it makes .exe files that run under DOS but have the look and feel of an .exm program ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:14:47 -0500 Reply-To: Jaime Zea Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jaime Zea Subject: Re: Greenwich serial-parallel cable In-Reply-To: <4.1.20020903093832.00bdc810@lmumail.lmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_12197921==_.ALT" --=====================_12197921==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:26 04/09/2002 -0700, Martin Ramirez wrote: > >I have followed the instructions on the Greenwich website concerning >configuration of my 200LX (http://www.greenwichinst.com/ga945hp.html) and >have been able to print from Sys Manager applications like Memo. However, >when I terminate Sys Manager (Terminate All) and go to the DOS prompt >(A:), I have been able to print from only two applications [PC Tools >Desktop ver 9.0; ALite (a spreadsheet)]. With other applications (e.g. >WordStar 7.0; WordPerfect 5.1+; MS Word 6.0; Quattro Pro 4.0), issuing a >print command produces no output. This is true with two printers I have >tested, an Epson LQ-570+ and a Brother M-1109 (in Epson FX-85 mode). Does >anyone have an idea what the problem is here? With the 4 presently >non-printing applications I have listed, do I need to select somewhat >different printer drivers for printing to work with the 200LX and the >GA945HP? > >Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom, >Martin Martin: In WordPerfect 5.1+ you have set the driver printer to use in serial way. To do that: Shift+F7 (Print Menu) S (Select Printer) 3 (Edit) 2 (Port) 4 (Com1) 1 (Baud) 8 (9600) 2 (Parity) 1 (None) 3 (Stop Bits) 1 4 (Character Length) 8 5 (XON/XOFF) y F7, F7, F7, F7, F7 To exit menues. (Com1:9600:N,8,1,XON/XOFF) Regards, Jaime --=====================_12197921==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 08:26 04/09/2002 -0700, Martin Ramirez wrote:
 
I have followed the instructions on the Greenwich website concerning configuration of my 200LX (http://www.greenwichinst.com/ga945hp.html) and have been able to print from Sys Manager applications like Memo.  However, when I terminate Sys Manager (Terminate All) and go to the DOS prompt (A:), I have been able to print from only two applications [PC Tools Desktop ver 9.0; ALite (a spreadsheet)].  With other applications (e.g. WordStar 7.0; WordPerfect 5.1+; MS Word 6.0; Quattro Pro 4.0), issuing a print command produces no output.  This is true with two printers I have tested, an Epson LQ-570+ and a Brother M-1109 (in Epson FX-85 mode).  Does anyone have an idea what the problem is here?  With the 4 presently non-printing applications I have listed, do I need to select somewhat different printer drivers for printing to work with the 200LX and the GA945HP? 

Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom,
Martin

Martin:

In WordPerfect 5.1+ you have set the driver printer to use in serial way.
To do that:
Shift+F7   (Print Menu)
S              (Select Printer)
3               (Edit)
2               (Port)
4               (Com1)
1               (Baud)
8               (9600)
2               (Parity)
1               (None)
3               (Stop Bits)
   1
4               (Character Length)
   8
5               (XON/XOFF)
   y
F7, F7, F7, F7, F7             To exit menues.
(Com1:9600:N,8,1,XON/XOFF)

Regards,

Jaime --=====================_12197921==_.ALT-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:31:20 +0200 Reply-To: Ulrich.Allen@GMX.De Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Uli Allen Subject: AW: Mobil Siemens ME45 and HPLX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al wrote: I am thinking to buy this phone.... I am using the ME45 now and I like it. As Daniel wrote: www/lx works fine and a few broken bytes on IR don't cause a problem. Sending SMS with PDU is great. What I like most is the flex-memory. On a pc (Windows) that appears as drive. Unfortunately not on the HPLX so far. You can use it as a vocabulary trainer if you want to. And it doesn't seem as fragile as most NOKIAs are. I prefer it to my 6310. Uli ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:17:53 +0200 Reply-To: xmarc@free.fr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marc BERLIOUX Subject: Re: CPACK on Linux Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi In-Reply-To: <002801c254b7$37b5e0d0$0a01a8c0@buero> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Le Jeudi 5 Septembre 2002 10:35, Stephan Goeldi a icrit : > Can anybody point me into the right direction for running CPACK200 under > Linux? There are DOSEMU and WINE. One of them may enable me to run > CPACK200. use the lxtools for linux instead ! you can find those tools on palmtop.net -- Marc BERLIOUX "Acheter un ordinateur peut vous aider ` risoudre beaucoup de problhmes que vous n'aviez pas avant" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:35:21 +0200 Reply-To: xmarc@free.fr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marc BERLIOUX Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Just a quick survey - how many of us have started to use Open Office, and > > how many are still entrenched in Micro$oft Office? > I stopped using Microsoft Office years ago when I entirely switched to > Linux. On Linux I write almost everything with LaTeX, for other office > stuff (spreadsheet mainly), I used Staroffice on Linux, but a few > months back switched to Openoffice. > I only use it rarely, becaus emost of the stuff I need to do can be > done nicer and faster and mor mobile with the palmtop's software > (Lotus, LXTeX) or LaTeX on the Linux machine. i agree with Daniel. TeX/LaTeX is also useful for writing Math expressions or music scores. All you need is a text editor to type in your documents. Then you process them with LaTeX (or MikTeX or LXTeX) to obtain a DVI file you can view with Xdvi or print with Dvi2ps. OpenOffice works fine on Linux too ! Thanks to the Open Source community for all these marvelous tools -- Marc BERLIOUX Microsoft ? Is that a kind of a toilet paper ? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:51:20 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: LAST CHANCE to buy an LED light! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 05.09.02 9:47 PM +0200 Hi friends, this is the last chance! Only 3 LED lights are left. As always, 35 Dollars for list members, details on http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight Thanks for your attention, daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:09:47 +0100 Reply-To: Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: 512meg card questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hi. I recently purchased a Sandisk 512meg CF card, so I have some > questions: I have the same card since about a year and have not noticed a particularl= y slow access time. Yes it is slower than my 96MB CF in the LX but this is = due to the size of the directory that the LX must read in Filer each time it = is switched on. I don't believe that other brands can do without the ACE driver. \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:36:04 +1000 Reply-To: Paul Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Johnson Subject: Re: Parts kit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Peter, I went back through my notes and credit card details. 22 October 2001, I ordered the parts kit, cost was Aus$36.30. Expected time for delivery was 10-14 days as there were none in stock. 16 November 2001, 3:50 pm I rang HP, they said its being sent from the USA, expected date 5 Decenber 2001, so it will arrive after that. 5 December 2001, HP in Melbourne said I couldn't have the parts kit, as it was only available to the USA and Canada. The offered to refund the $36.30. I expressed my disappointment and my wish that things were different in a frank manner (to put it politely). So only two days after you ordered yours, they told me it wasn't available in Australia. Maybe I should have a second go! Regards, Paul Johnson Prime, Peter wrote: > Hi, > > I just checked the paperwork. > > The parts kit was ordered on 3 Dec 2001, and I recieved the full kit on 9 Jan 2002. > > Cost was $32 Aussie dollars > > Peter Prime > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:55:04 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: T2T -> PocketPCTech MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fyi, I just went to the Time2Tech site and got a redirect to http://www.pocketpctechs.com and with a short msg saying they had merged. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:10:58 +0200 Reply-To: Alexander Schreiber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alexander Schreiber Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 09:00:03AM +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > 02h37m ago JIMMY TAN wrote: > > > Just a quick survey - how many of us have started to use Open Office, and how > > many are still entrenched in Micro$oft Office? > > I stopped using Microsoft Office years ago when I entirely switched to > Linux. On Linux I write almost everything with LaTeX, for other office > stuff (spreadsheet mainly), I used Staroffice on Linux, but a few > months back switched to Openoffice. > I only use it rarely, becaus emost of the stuff I need to do can be > done nicer and faster and mor mobile with the palmtop's software > (Lotus, LXTeX) or LaTeX on the Linux machine. I actually never really used MS Office. While I was still using Windows (and later OS/2), the word processor of choice for me was Lotus Amipro. Interestingly, I can still read the text of the files since it used a rather readable format. Switched completely to Linux around 1996 and therefore to LaTeX for all my text-/wordprocessing needs - never looked back since. LaTeX is a _great_ tool. _Very_ powerful, compact files, can be used with any text editor you like, can be used _sensibly_ with revision control systems (currently I'm using CVS to provide me with revision control as well as distributed editing (two hot working copies - one at home, on at work - which are synced against a central repository and therefore always up to date) for my diploma thesis which is of course written with LaTeX), is available on almost every platform and extremly portable, plus it produces nice looking output. LXTeX is actually rather nice - I used it to edit an early working copy of my diploma thesis on the HPLX. Rendering fonts takes almost eons, but one can't have everything ;-) Regards, Alex. -- "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:10:03 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: resolution and need help with 95LX Comments: To: Julie Miley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Whoever had the palmtop before me did some Lotus > worksheets and saved them. No biggie, there. What IS > the biggie is they managed to save those files as read-only, > then somehow disabled the ATTRIB command in DOS. > I'd love to delete those files and free up some space, but > I've tried using the ATTRIB -r command, and it comes > up as a bad command. Ahhhh, this person also went in > and wrote a new command.com file, apparently disabling > some DOS commands. I can't delete the command.com > file, and I can't seem to get into SHELL to write a new > command file. DOS seems to recognize the FORMAT > command (didn't specify any parameters, just wanted to > see if DOS would say FORMAT is a bad command.) > I can type in the command $SYSMGR, but can't actually > get into the manager to get at the original DOS commands. If I remember the hp95 correctly, it had some spreadsheets also permanently "etched" into the rom and the could not be deleted. It has been a long time so I may be wrong about what was permanently part of the machine. VICTOR, you should remember! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:33:36 +1000 Reply-To: Al Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Subject: PEspell French dictionary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit does anyone have a French dic for PEspell? thank you ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:13:06 +1000 Reply-To: Al Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Subject: Re: Mobil Siemens ME and HPLX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thank you Daniel and Uli, for the information. I was planing to use the IR, but it's look like it's not a so good idea. www/lx is to expensive for me. regards Alain ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:41:28 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: 512meg card questions Comments: To: Yves Leurquin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit About 2 years ago, Avi claimed that his did not need the driver. He share the price at the time, butt not the brand. Because of the price, I did not pursue it further at the time. Thanks for sharing your experience. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yves Leurquin" > Hi. I recently purchased a Sandisk 512meg CF card, so I have some > questions: I have the same card since about a year and have not noticed a particularly slow access time. Yes it is slower than my 96MB CF in the LX but this is due to the size of the directory that the LX must read in Filer each time it is switched on. I don't believe that other brands can do without the ACE driver. \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:45:36 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org Comments: To: xmarc@free.fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc BERLIOUX" > > > Just a quick survey - how many of us have started to use Open Office, and > > > how many are still entrenched in Micro$oft Office? > > I stopped using Microsoft Office years ago when I entirely switched to > > Linux. On Linux I write almost everything with LaTeX, for other office > > stuff (spreadsheet mainly), I used Staroffice on Linux, but a few > > months back switched to Openoffice. > > I only use it rarely, becaus emost of the stuff I need to do can be > > done nicer and faster and mor mobile with the palmtop's software > > (Lotus, LXTeX) or LaTeX on the Linux machine. > > i agree with Daniel. > TeX/LaTeX is also useful for writing Math expressions or music scores. > All you need is a text editor to type in your documents. > Then you process them with LaTeX (or MikTeX or LXTeX) > to obtain a DVI file you can view with Xdvi or print with Dvi2ps. > > OpenOffice works fine on Linux too ! Latex may be nicer, but I find it hard to believe it's faster. True, the speed of Word is often lost on crashes (although I have not have any running it on XP). Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:22:53 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org In-Reply-To: <003a01c25547$1a273010$df5c3a41@HEWLETT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 5 Sep 2002 at 21:45, Domingo wrote: > Latex may be nicer, but I find it hard to believe it's faster. True, the > speed of Word is often lost on crashes (although I have not have any running > it on XP). Is his going to become yet another "I don't like Microsoft's business practices, so let's trash their products" threads? I use Office 2000 under Win98SE and can't remember the last time Word crashed. However, I have installed Open Office on one of my other machines because I do not like the various policies that MS has instituted with Windows XP and Office XP - so I am moving slowly toward Linux. At this time, I think Open Office is inferior to Word 2000, but it is a "young" product and I'm sure it will improve with time. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:25:13 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Strange reboot problem Comments: To: Ulrich Boche In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 3 Sep 2002 at 12:02, Ulrich Boche wrote: > On Monday, 02.09.2002 at 09:51 AST, Victor Roberts > wrote: > > > > So - what is happening? Do I have a hardware or a software > > problem? > > > You didn't mention that you checked or replaced the backup battery. > Could it be that your backup battery is bad? I have no experience > with a bad backup battery because I change it yearly. I don't understand how the backup battery could be at fault. As long as the main batteries are OK, then the backup battery is not being used. And, if the backup battery is low, then I would get a message stating so. (I know that this message may come too late if I _need_ the backup battery, but I still believe the backup battery is not the issue here. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:29:42 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: 200LX Clock Speed Study In-Reply-To: <200208030841.PNR03680@netins.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 3 Sep 2002 at 8:41, Theodore Heise wrote: > Final update: the clock speed stayed constant. The double speed unit > on alkalines had dropped to around 2.3 volts at week 5, and would not > power on at week 6. The stock single speed was still at 8 bars at > week 6. Sorry, I don't have your original post. Do both machines have the same amount of memory? I can understand why extra memory would use more power when the LX is "asleep" but why should the DS upgrade have such a large effect on sleep power all by itself? ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:37:05 +0800 Reply-To: Mujid Abdul-CAM028 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mujid Abdul-CAM028 Subject: Re: 200LX Clock Speed Study MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi, I think HP200LX wakeup periodically for a short time doing some housekeeping without tuning on LCD. HP200LX never completely OFF. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Victor Roberts [mailto:Robertsv@EARTHLINK.NET] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:30 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: 200LX Clock Speed Study On 3 Sep 2002 at 8:41, Theodore Heise wrote: > Final update: the clock speed stayed constant. The double speed unit > on alkalines had dropped to around 2.3 volts at week 5, and would not > power on at week 6. The stock single speed was still at 8 bars at > week 6. Sorry, I don't have your original post. Do both machines have the same amount of memory? I can understand why extra memory would use more power when the LX is "asleep" but why should the DS upgrade have such a large effect on sleep power all by itself? ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:53:57 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: 200LX Clock Speed Study In-Reply-To: <3D77DAD6.26208.2254E9@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Victor Roberts wrote: > > Final update: the clock speed stayed constant. The double speed unit > > on alkalines had dropped to around 2.3 volts at week 5, and would not > > power on at week 6. The stock single speed was still at 8 bars at > > week 6. > > Sorry, I don't have your original post. Do both machines have > the same amount of memory? I can understand why extra memory > would use more power when the LX is "asleep" but why should > the DS upgrade have such a large effect on sleep power all by > itself? Yes, the DS also has a 32MB memory upgrade. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:55:12 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: 200LX Clock Speed Study In-Reply-To: <47C7742111D3D511A01000D0B7B0C7C22F8715@ZMY01EXM02> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Mujid Abdul-CAM028 wrote: > I think HP200LX wakeup periodically for a short time doing > some housekeeping without tuning on LCD. HP200LX never > completely OFF. Yes, I believe you are correct. Still, I was surprised at the striking difference between the two units. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:56:14 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org Comments: To: Victor Roberts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Roberts" > On 5 Sep 2002 at 21:45, Domingo wrote: > > > Latex may be nicer, but I find it hard to believe it's faster. True, the > > speed of Word is often lost on crashes (although I have not have any running > > it on XP). > > Is this going to become yet another "I don't like Microsoft's business practices, so let's > trash their products" threads? Who knows. My comment was really about Latex, Word was just incidental, but since you are dwelling on it . . . > I use Office 2000 under Win98SE and can't remember the last time Word crashed. Messing too much with fonts, hugue font sizes, many colors and weird formatting frequently causes crashes for me. Regular documents are fine for me as well. Word doesn't work extremely well for creating fancy posters and desktop publishing, in my experience. > However, I have installed Open Office on one of my other machines because I do not > like the various policies that MS has instituted with Windows XP and Office XP - so I > am moving slowly toward Linux. At this time, I think Open Office is inferior to Word > 2000, but it is a "young" product and I'm sure it will improve with time. Since this thread is originally about Open Office, is that product free? I have Linux, but seldom use it. For me, WordPerfect for Windows rocks! Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:33:48 -0600 Reply-To: Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: FS: Pizazz Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For Sale: Pizazz Plus, DOS, Version 3.0, screen capture and print software. THIS PROGRAM HAS NOT BEEN NOT TESTED ON THE 200LX, so I don't know what it would do, but it does support CGA, EGA, VGA and others, as well as over 400 printers, etc. Asking $5, plus $6 shipping via USPS Prioity Mail. United States only, please. (I might consider international shipping for those on the list if monetary exchange and customs problems can be satisfactorily resolved.) Thanks. Richard Smith ---------- NO UCE / NO UBE / NO SPAM / http://www.cauce.org A new, poetic weapon in the war against SPAM: http://www.habeas.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:11:43 -0600 Reply-To: Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And how many have never been "entrenched in Micro$oft Office" and have remained true to WordPerfect or WordStar? -- Richard & Patti Smith ---------- NO UCE / NO UBE / NO SPAM / http://www.cauce.org A new, poetic weapon in the war against SPAM: http://www.habeas.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:38:25 -0400 Reply-To: Andrew Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Subject: FS: Microref quick reference for Wordperfect 5.1 $5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all While looking for something else I found a Microref quick reference book for Wordperfect 5.1. If anyone out there wants it it could be yours for $5 plus postage from Ann Arbor (USA 48104). -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:42:17 -0400 Reply-To: Andrew Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Subject: FS: bitcom/bitfax MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit More house cleaning finds... one copy of BitCom v 3.584 original floppy and manual one copy of BitFax v 3.02 original floppy and manual Yours for cash or interesting trade. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:36:00 -0700 Reply-To: Don Miller Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Miller Organization: JFK University Subject: Fluff: OpenOffice.org Comments: cc: JIMMY TAN In-Reply-To: <200209060402.VAA00364@jfku.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here at the university where I work, we have refused to go along with the constant "updating" of the MS Office stuff for years - for most users, there is no functionality in the new versions that they actually need, and just the fact there is a new one is no good reason for buying it. For those who do need or want more, we have just begun deploying OpenOffice as the alternative in the last few months. So far, they seem to love it. I use the StarOffice version from Sun on my own machine, since it was included with my Solaris 9 distribution. Don Miller Network Operations JFK University On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Jimmy Tan wrote: > Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:14:18 +0800 > From: JIMMY TAN > Subject: Fluff: OpenOffice.org > > Hi everybody, > > Just a quick survey - how many of us have started to use Open Office, and how > many are still entrenched in Micro$oft Office? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:43:30 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alex 07h05m ago Alexander Schreiber wrote: > LXTeX is actually rather nice - I used it to edit an early working copy > of my diploma thesis on the HPLX. Rendering fonts takes almost eons, = but > one can't have everything ;-) If you have enough storage space available, you can use font library files, which include most often used fonts, so only a few or even none have to be created, depending on the fonts you use in your dodument. This costs some hundered kilobytes, but saves LOTS of time. See the new LXTeX homepage for tips and tricks, including this one. http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/lxtex You write your diploma thesis - so you are a student? Interesting, I am too, and I'm just beginning my diploma thesis. With LaTeX, of course, but on the palmtop I will certainly only write, and not compile etc., since processing pictures needs Postscript stuff, which doesn't work on the palmtop. But I write all my letters of application and other letters on the palmtop now, using a very nice letter template I found on the web, together with the dinbrief document class. See LXTeX homepage. Where and what do you study? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:43:31 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Domingo 03h38m ago Domingo wrote: > Latex may be nicer, but I find it hard to believe it's faster. True, = the > speed of Word is often lost on crashes (although I have not have any = running > it on XP). It depends. You can use LaTeX in a very efficient way, and thus it is very fast. If you use the LaTeX executables manually, editing the tex file, then calling latex, then calling maybe dvips, then ps2pdf, then lpr to print, then remove aus and log files etc., it takes some time. But if you know your prefered way of working with LaTeX, you can write your own script / batches to do all this processing for you, and then it can be extremely fast. Another speed problem may be the LaTeX syntax. If you are not used to it, you may make lots of errors, as when learning programming, and you will notice the errors only when compiling. But once you are familiar enough with the LaTeX syntax, you can write your documents very fast. There are also LaTeX syntax enabled editors, which take care you don't forget a paremthesis, or which have buttons for "bold", "italic", font size etc, just like word, which creae the LaTeX commands for you. There is even LyX, a WYSIWYG tool for LaTeX, but I haven't tried if this is good enough or not. Certainly it's not the way LaTeX is meant to be used, so I assume it is not fast. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:43:34 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: T2T -> PocketPCTech MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Russ 07h42m ago Russel Brooks wrote: > I just went to the Time2Tech site and got a redirect to > http://www.pocketpctechs.com and with a short msg saying they > had merged. Yes, but the old T2T 200LX upgrade pages are still availeble somewhere in the new page tree. So I don't think this means anything bad to us. They just increased their product palette. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:43:32 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Vic 03h07m ago Victor Roberts wrote: > Is his going to become yet another "I don't like Microsoft's business = practices, so let's > trash their products" threads? I hope it won't. Since LaTeX also works on the palmtop, it is even an on-topic thread. > I use Office 2000 under Win98SE and can't remember the last time Word = crashed. > However, I have installed Open Office on one of my other machines = because I do not > like the various policies that MS has instituted with Windows XP and = Office XP - so I > am moving slowly toward Linux. At this time, I think Open Office is = inferior to Word > 2000, but it is a "young" product and I'm sure it will improve with = time. Open Office is certainly still more instable than MS Office. AFAIK, Staroffice and Openoffice are based on Java, aren't they? I have always had problems with Java programs, because they were instable and slow. But this can be due to my missing knowledge about Java and how to properly set it up. ;-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 01:51:56 -0500 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org Comments: To: Victor Roberts In-Reply-To: <3D77D93D.1481.1C16F4@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:22:53 -0400, you wrote: >On 5 Sep 2002 at 21:45, Domingo wrote: > >> Latex may be nicer, but I find it hard to believe it's faster. True, = the >> speed of Word is often lost on crashes (although I have not have any = running >> it on XP). > >Is his going to become yet another "I don't like Microsoft's business = practices, so let's >trash their products" threads? > >I use Office 2000 under Win98SE and can't remember the last time Word = crashed. I run Word Perfect under DOS and have NEVER had a crash. MS Word crashes frequently.=20 >However, I have installed Open Office on one of my other machines = because I do not >like the various policies that MS has instituted with Windows XP and = Office XP - so I >am moving slowly toward Linux. At this time, I think Open Office is = inferior to Word >2000, but it is a "young" product and I'm sure it will improve with = time. > >------ >Victor Roberts > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:30:05 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Organization: Goeldi.com Subject: Re: AW: Mobil Siemens ME45 and HPLX Comments: To: Ulrich.Allen@GMX.De MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I am using the ME45 now and I like it. As Daniel wrote: www/lx works > fine and a few broken bytes on IR don't cause a problem. So the ME45 doesn't have the Siemens Interference problem? How about the S45? > Sending SMS with PDU is great. Is there a HOWTO anywhere? > You can use it as a vocabulary trainer if you want to. How do you do that? Is this possible with the S45 too? Stephan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:32:50 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Organization: Goeldi.com Subject: Re: CPACK on Linux Comments: To: xmarc@free.fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > use the lxtools for linux instead ! I already use lxtools on linux. But what I want to use is CPACK200. CPACK200 is not only file transfer. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:18:42 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Back after 2 years, some questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Domingo" To: Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:13 PM Subject: Re: Back after 2 years, some questions [snip] But then perhaps Daniel already has this information. > > Domingo > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > I do indeed think so, because AFAIK it was about some other posts in this list, Daniel started experimenting on his lx. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:27:11 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: CC:Mail and PCMCIA 2 in 700lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Listers, The palmtop has - as you all well know - a fine email program build in, which works with the CC:Mail protocol. It would be nice if I could use this programI know there is a service available in the USA, which I could possible use, but that would be quite an expensive call from the Netherlands. Does anyone of you know if there is such a service in Europe (Preferably the Netherlands :) ) or if there is some server-software I could get *somewhere* to start up a little service just for myself (I have a few unused phone lines here since we got broad band internet). Off course if I get it to work you might too :) Maybe if such soft is available I might consider setting up some service (low fee, non-profit) for more people if it does not generate too much trouble (overheated phone lines, for example :) ), but there was someone else in this list considering this, I remember. About the 2nd pcmcia card in the 700lx, I did still not find anything usefull, though I get the card powered by software (eg, after the system is booted). I have put my 700lx back together, for now school has begun again and I use my 700lx daily, so no more experiments for a while from my side. Greetings, Niels [n] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:35:45 +0800 Reply-To: Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: Basic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry and Barry, Thank you for clarifying that for me. My mistake ... 8-) Bud Larry Tachna blah, blah, blahed ... > >>>or two before that I wanted to program to be system manager >>>compliant (EXM). > >the PAL library does NOT make .exm programs it makes .exe files that run >under DOS but have the look and feel of an .exm program > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:40:40 +0800 Reply-To: JIMMY TAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JIMMY TAN Subject: Fluff: Open Office MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, Open Office is "young" but I'm willing to bet it will mature very quickly, like Linux which is now ubiquitous, stable, "complete" and user-friendly (the GUI version) - thanks to the OSC. I am using Open Office now and so far I find that I can get my work done without have to resort to re-installing Micro$oft Office. There some quirks though, like the print preview function does not actually give a true picture of what the output will be like, eg. page orientation, selected print areas, no. of pages, etc. Oh well, maybe I missed something, or they are bugs but if they are I'm sure they will be ironed out real soon. Apart from that IMHO OO is a truly useable and *affordable* alternative to M$O. Jimmy. ____________________Reply Separator____________________ From: "Victor Roberts" Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org Date: 06 September, 2002 10:22 On 5 Sep 2002 at 21:45, Domingo wrote: > Latex may be nicer, but I find it hard to believe it's faster. True, the > speed of Word is often lost on crashes (although I have not have any running > it on XP). Is his going to become yet another "I don't like Microsoft's business practices, so let's trash their products" threads? I use Office 2000 under Win98SE and can't remember the last time Word crashed. However, I have installed Open Office on one of my other machines because I do not like the various policies that MS has instituted with Windows XP and Office XP - so I am moving slowly toward Linux. At this time, I think Open Office is inferior to Word 2000, but it is a "young" product and I'm sure it will improve with time. ------ Victor Roberts ****************************************************************** This message is intended only for the use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is priviledged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any use, review, disclosure or copying of this message and the information it contains is prohibited. If you receive the message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and discard all its contents. Thank You. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:53:10 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Basic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Then, is it possible to create .exm-files in basic? I think a special compiler would be required but what do I know about that? Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Chua" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:35 PM Subject: Re: Basic > Larry and Barry, > > Thank you for clarifying that for me. My mistake ... 8-) > > Bud > > Larry Tachna blah, blah, blahed ... > > > >>>or two before that I wanted to program to be system manager > >>>compliant (EXM). > > > >the PAL library does NOT make .exm programs it makes .exe files that run > >under DOS but have the look and feel of an .exm program > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:48:09 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Organization: Goeldi.com Subject: Re: Fluff: Open Office Comments: To: JIMMY TAN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > like Linux which is now ubiquitous, stable, "complete" and user-friendly (the > GUI version) The non-GUI version is user-friendly too, if you compare it to the command-line systems like micros~1.oft DOS (aka win95, win98 and winME). I use StarOffice 5.2 instead of OpenOffice, because I found some instabilities in the OO-Version which didn't occur in StarOffice. And I didn't find a link to a german version of OO (although they are mentioned). And as a side-effect: special language standard truetype fonts, which are supported in Windows application and StarOffice, like e.g. Arial-Tur (Turkish Arial), don't show up in OO. For most people, there is no need to change to OO from StarOffice. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:03:31 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: To Martin Vagner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 06.09.02 1:00 PM +0200 Hi Martin, I couldn't reach you via private mail, so I use this way: I need more of the EL foil you sent me with your EL experimental setup! I have tested some kinds of EL foil and yours was definitely the best! Please contact me privately. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:31:53 +0200 Reply-To: Axel-Berger@Nexgo.De Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Victor Roberts wrote: > I use Office 2000 under Win98SE and can't remember the > last time Word crashed. Huh? I refuse to use Word on principle, I admit that. But when my (74+) mother wanted help designing a birthday invitation for friend and asked nicely I gave it a go. There was this page with an image on it. When I touched the border with the mouse to drag it a little the whole program crashed. This happened three times. After that I gave up. I never tried to find the reason. For text I use an editor, for stuff like invitation cards with few words on them the text functions of graphics programs do nicely. There is no need at all for me to scramble up that slippery learning curve. Looking at other things it is quite obvious that most people today dislike science and prefer magic (New Age, Esoterics, Homoeopathy). I firmly believe this is part of the appeal of Microsoft products. Nothing to really understand but arcane incantations to learn by heart. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:41:50 +0200 Reply-To: Alexander Schreiber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alexander Schreiber Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 07:43:30AM +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > 07h05m ago Alexander Schreiber wrote: > > > LXTeX is actually rather nice - I used it to edit an early working copy > > of my diploma thesis on the HPLX. Rendering fonts takes almost eons, but > > one can't have everything ;-) > > If you have enough storage space available, you can use font library I do, the 64 MB compact flash isn't even filled to half of its capacity. > files, which include most often used fonts, so only a few or even none > have to be created, depending on the fonts you use in your dodument. > This costs some hundered kilobytes, but saves LOTS of time. > > See the new LXTeX homepage for tips and tricks, including this one. > > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/lxtex Thanks. > You write your diploma thesis - so you are a student? Interesting, I > am too, and I'm just beginning my diploma thesis. With LaTeX, of > course, but on the palmtop I will certainly only write, and not compile > etc., since processing pictures needs Postscript stuff, which doesn't > work on the palmtop. For the first part, I also did a small amount of writing - but now I'm starting to include quite some graphics (.eps files for database scheme visualisation) and that doesn't exactky work on the HPLX. But I was surprised how well the .dvi viewer worked, really nice. > But I write all my letters of application and other letters on the > palmtop now, using a very nice letter template I found on the web, I'm doing all my writing with LaTeX since a few years (lab reports, papers, slides for talks (pdflatex and Adobe Acrobat for display are a really good team there), letters). > together with the dinbrief document class. See LXTeX homepage. Yes, dinbrief is very nice, especially for more formal letters. It simply looks very nice and professional. > Where and what do you study? Chemnitz University of Technology in Chemnitz, Germany. I'm studying Applied Computer Science and am almost done with my diploma thesis. Regards, Alex. -- "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:48:56 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Musielewicz" To: "Niels" Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Basic > You would need to compile it to a exe file then try it to see if it you mean .exm here? > works. I was going to try a forth program but never got around to it. > Why would you want an exm program though? You are limited to 64k data. because it'd be nice to create a program that runs in sysmgr :) moreover, it's fun to be able to make such a program. Niels >On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:53:10 +0200, you wrote: >>Then, is it possible to create .exm-files in basic? >>I think a special compiler would be required but what do I know about that? >> >>Niels >> >> >>[n] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:51:17 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: CC:Mail and PCMCIA 2 in 700lx In-Reply-To: <004f01c25587$952374f0$060210ac@tommy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Niels wrote: > The palmtop has - as you all well know - a fine email program > build in, which works with the CC:Mail protocol. It would be > nice if I could use this programI know there is a service > available in the USA, which I could possible use, but that > would be quite an expensive call from the Netherlands. This isn't exactly what you were asking for, but may still be of interest. There is a program on SUPER that allows use of cc:Mail as the user interface for e-mail that is retrieved and sent by way of the LXTCP package. Look for the ccLXTCP package. I don't think it's entirely simple to install, but has been reported to work well once it is. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:16:21 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Niels In-Reply-To: <00f901c25593$99746210$060210ac@tommy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Then, is it possible to create .exm-files in basic? no I don't think so, what is needed to make .exm files are libraries from HP and a C compiler and a program from HP to convert .exe files to .exm files. The files from HP were sold or given away as the LX SDK. You make a .exe file following strict guidelines and using the library from HP than convert it to an .exm file using the HP converter. I am sure all this stuff is probably on the super site somewhere. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:13:33 -0400 Reply-To: Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: pkunzip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello! Couldn't find pkunzip on SUPER, isn't it there any longer? Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:28:55 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I use NewWord (similar to WordStar 3.3/4) on my LX. I need to use MS Word 2000 for documents at work, but I try to use Cetus WordPad (a version of the Windows WordPad program with spell checking added) as much as I can. For programming, I use a word processor with built in VBScript running capabilities that I wrote in C++. I used WordPerfect a lot in a previous job (and still have copies of at least 5 different versions), but never got comfortable with the function-key combinations. Also, I could not use it on my Otrona Attache 8:16 (not a completely IBM-compatable keyboard), so I kept using NewWord. Word 2000 (under Win 98 on my wife's computer) crashed too often, so we went back to Word 97 there. -----Original Message----- From: Richard and Patti Smith [mailto:seronac@FREEPORT.COM] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:12 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org And how many have never been "entrenched in Micro$oft Office" and have remained true to WordPerfect or WordStar? -- Richard & Patti Smith ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:27:55 -0500 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Niels In-Reply-To: <017101c255a3$cb5264c0$060210ac@tommy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:48:56 +0200, you wrote: >[n] >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Musielewicz" >To: "Niels" >Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:30 PM >Subject: Re: Basic > > >> You would need to compile it to a exe file then try it to see if it > >you mean .exm here? No the exm converter converts from a exe to exm. It might work. All you can do is try it. The worst thing that will happen is the exm won't run or it locks up and crashes your 200LX. The bios and os are in rom so it won't hurt them. > >> works. I was going to try a forth program but never got around to it. >> Why would you want an exm program though? You are limited to 64k data. > > >because it'd be nice to create a program that runs in sysmgr :) = moreover, >it's fun to be able to make such a program. > >Niels > > > >>On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:53:10 +0200, you wrote: > >>>Then, is it possible to create .exm-files in basic? >>>I think a special compiler would be required but what do I know about >that? >>> >>>Niels >>> >>> >>>[n] > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:34:34 -0500 Reply-To: John McCaskill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John McCaskill Subject: Re: resolution and need help with 95LX Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20020905231000.KCRD3050.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I remember correctly, attrib is not loaded on the stock 95LX set of DOS commands. You have to copy it to the LX from another machine, then give the command. I kept an executable called FA.EXE in the root directory of my A: drive so I could access & change the attributes. If you need it, I can send it to you. It's 10KB size. John -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu]On Behalf Of F. Kaufman Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:10 PM To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: resolution and need help with 95LX > Whoever had the palmtop before me did some Lotus > worksheets and saved them. No biggie, there. What IS > the biggie is they managed to save those files as read-only, > then somehow disabled the ATTRIB command in DOS. > I'd love to delete those files and free up some space, but > I've tried using the ATTRIB -r command, and it comes > up as a bad command. Ahhhh, this person also went in > and wrote a new command.com file, apparently disabling > some DOS commands. I can't delete the command.com > file, and I can't seem to get into SHELL to write a new > command file. DOS seems to recognize the FORMAT > command (didn't specify any parameters, just wanted to > see if DOS would say FORMAT is a bad command.) > I can type in the command $SYSMGR, but can't actually > get into the manager to get at the original DOS commands. If I remember the hp95 correctly, it had some spreadsheets also permanently "etched" into the rom and the could not be deleted. It has been a long time so I may be wrong about what was permanently part of the machine. VICTOR, you should remember! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:33:17 -0500 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Larry Tachna In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:16:21 -0400, you wrote: >>>Then, is it possible to create .exm-files in basic? > >no I don't think so, what is needed to make .exm files are libraries = from HP >and a C compiler and a program from HP to convert .exe files to .exm = files. >The files from HP were sold or given away as the LX SDK. You make a .exe >file following strict guidelines and using the library from HP than = convert >it to an .exm file using the HP converter. I am sure all this stuff is >probably on the super site somewhere. I think the main thing is just making sure it is compiled in the tiny (or small- which ever one is for 64k program/data) memory modual. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:44:29 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Organization: Goeldi.com Subject: Re: CC:Mail and PCMCIA 2 in 700lx Comments: To: Theodore Heise MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ccLXTCP package. I don't think it's entirely simple to install, > but has been reported to work well once it is. Isn't it written ccLXPOP? I once tried to install it, because it seemed to be exactly what I wanted. I didn't figure out what went wrong with the TCP stuff. Why isn't there any preconfigured packages of ccLXPOP AND TCP drivers? Nowadays one only has to change the ISP phone number, loginname and password. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:53:50 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: CC:Mail and PCMCIA 2 in 700lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Stephan Goeldi wrote: > > ccLXTCP package. I don't think it's entirely simple to install, > > but has been reported to work well once it is. > > Isn't it written ccLXPOP? I once tried to install it, because > it seemed to be exactly what I wanted. I didn't figure out > what went wrong with the TCP stuff. Why isn't there any > preconfigured packages of ccLXPOP AND TCP drivers? Nowadays > one only has to change the ISP phone number, loginname and > password. Yes, you're correct regarding the name. I goofed. As far as the setup of LXTCP goes, I've written step by step instructions that can be found at: -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:12:17 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: CC:Mail and PCMCIA 2 in 700lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan Goeldi" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:44 PM Subject: Re: CC:Mail and PCMCIA 2 in 700lx > > ccLXTCP package. I don't think it's entirely simple to install, > > but has been reported to work well once it is. > > Isn't it written ccLXPOP? I once tried to install it, because it seemed to > be exactly what I wanted. I didn't figure out what went wrong with the TCP > stuff. Why isn't there any preconfigured packages of ccLXPOP AND TCP > drivers? Nowadays one only has to change the ISP phone number, loginname and > password. > I had it installed once.. then I crashed my flashcard for some reason and also my laptop (which held the backup) crashed 2 days after and I did not yet restore the cf card. For once I made a backup, then it gets lost when I need it! *sigh* It was some work to get lxTCP working, but after half a day of fiddling (and wasting much money on datacalls :) ) I got it working. I even had a batch that would retrieve my mail. Guess I have to go trough that again... > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:18:36 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Backlight news (was: Re: Back after 2 years, some questions) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all 22h16m ago Niels wrote: > About the backlight, I believe Daniel Hertrich is working to make it = work > now (and, if I'm right about him, he will make (or allready has made) a = page > on his internet site http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ about his experience= s). > I'm unable to check it now, for his site seems to be down (16:50, = gmt+1). I'll clear up some secrets about backlight: You're right, I am working on a solution for reliable backlighting of the palmtop screen. I have been supported by the invaluable help of Thaddeus and Times2Tech (they sent me some material for research), by Thomas Rundel, who sent me screens to do tests with, and by experiences of some list members who worked on backlight as well, namely John Musielewicz, Radek Svagr and Martin Vagner (I hope I didn't forget anyone ;-). Now I try to combine everything and I do tests and measurements to find the best solution, and I found a way to get around the problems which stopped the Thaddeus Backlight project. And I designed an inverter which fits inside the hinge tube. During my research I came across a site on the web of a little company which offers backlight kits for the Atari Portfolio and the Siemens IC35 organizer. They also have a HP 200LX section on their web site, so I immediately contacted these people. What came out was that this company already has developed a working backlight kit for the 200LX, the only thing missing yet is an installation description. I will probably write that description for them. But first we have to agree on some things about hardware design. They will maybe even offer upgrade service. Today a sample kit of that company arrived here. I tested it a bit, and I think this is not yet the optimal solution, since the light is not as bright as it could be, but on the other hand, the designer did an extremely good job on the inverter, thus it is _very_ power efficient. The inverter I build takes 60mA at 5V, and the inverter I got today only needs 20-25mA at 3V! But as I said, it produces maybe too dark light. Will test that in the evening when it's dark enough. I have indeed set up a web page about my backlight project already, it was password-protected until now, but now it is publicly available. URL: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/backlight I don't know if Thaddeus will continue their project based on my results. The original problems regarding the removal of the not needed screen layers are gone now, I have found a solution how to avoid that, but it would probably cost the people at Thaddeus much valuable time and money to verify my results and demand may not be high enough to cover these costs. I don't know, but it may be that way. Please don't ask Hal yet. The decision isn't made yet. But I can say that most probably (no promise!) there will be something in the future. Either only an instruction sheet how to backlight-upgrade the palmtop, or a backlight kit, or even complete backlight upgrade service. The company I found (I will not give details yet, they don't sell the kit yet anyway), said they think about a price of 65 Euros for the complete backlight kit, without upgrade service. Considering that professional inverter design I think this is a very good price. However, to cover the costs, they had to sell about 100 kits at least. I still have to coordinate many things, thoughts, measurement results, opinions etc., so please don't ask me anything about details. I will keep you informed via the list. On my backlight page you can see some of my own results, not yet anything about the new professional inverter and its properties. I could need some help with the following: I need more EL panels. Martin Vagner sent me one from Czech Republic, which looks white when off (important for the reflection if it's off), and it shines blue-green when on. Maybe for the contrast, it would be better if it would shine yellow (see my page about the contrast problems), but it HAS to be white on the surface. So if anyone knows a source or could even get a sample and send it to me, it would help finding the best solution. I will probably send some surveys around in the near future to see how auch demand for backlight there is, and how much one would pay for it. As I said, the kit could probably only be offered if there is enough demand. So plese begin considering how much you would pay if you want to have backlight, and whether you think you could install it by yourself or not. But no mails yet, please, before I start the survey GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:18:38 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Back after 2 years, some questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Domingo 20h59m ago Domingo wrote: > What about David Sargeant's work? It is my understanding that he was = about > ready for production, except for the problem with removing the original > screen reliably every time. I know he currently has more pressing > concerns, but perhaps the information he has would help avoid reinventin= g > the wheel. But then perhaps Daniel already has this information. Yes, I have all info I could get from the people who were involved into Thaddeus' backlight project, including David. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:03:16 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: John Musielewicz In-Reply-To: <17bhnu80pprqg6nu5pk4p9sn0d8sn44qpm@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>No the exm converter converts from a exe to exm. It might work. All >>you can do is try it. cant imagine that will work, besides having to use the library that calls the sysmgr routines there are also special startup files (crt0.obj etc) used when compiling the .exe, these startup files dictate how the program is loaded when it is run. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:03:18 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: John Musielewicz In-Reply-To: <6ibhnu0jlapv38iau48uflhaqvloj7qh7m@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I think the main thing is just making sure it is compiled in the tiny >>(or small- which ever one is for 64k program/data) memory modual. there are also some obj's (crt0.obj etc) that you need to use for the load code of the .exe, making an .exm is not for the faint of heart using the PAL library is much easier besides isn't there a limit to how many .exm's can be loaded? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:15:45 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Tachna" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Basic > isn't there a limit to how many .exm's > can be loaded? Yes. I think it was 8. but the limit for dos programs is significantly lower, namely 1. Niels > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:38:14 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Basic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Musielewicz" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:27 PM Subject: Re: Basic On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:48:56 +0200, you wrote: >[n] >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Musielewicz" >To: "Niels" >Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:30 PM >Subject: Re: Basic > > >> You would need to compile it to a exe file then try it to see if it > >you mean .exm here? No the exm converter converts from a exe to exm. It might work. All you can do is try it. The worst thing that will happen is the exm won't run or it locks up and crashes your 200LX. The bios and os are in rom so it won't hurt them. I think you must be talking about the E2M.EXE file here. I have not found it so far but it won't work I guess. > >> works. I was going to try a forth program but never got around to it. >> Why would you want an exm program though? You are limited to 64k data. > > >because it'd be nice to create a program that runs in sysmgr :) moreover, >it's fun to be able to make such a program. > >Niels > > > >>On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:53:10 +0200, you wrote: > >>>Then, is it possible to create .exm-files in basic? >>>I think a special compiler would be required but what do I know about >that? >>> >>>Niels >>> >>> >>>[n] > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:40:29 +0100 Reply-To: Ron Shanks Associates Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kerwin Robertson Subject: 200lx, doublespeed, 5mb for sale in UK. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have for sale a doublespeed 2mb 200 lx with a 4mb upgrade (to give a total of 5mb - 1mb was on board, 1mb on the old memory card) with a full size mouse which has been converted to fit directly into the lx's port. Also included is the proper HP to PC connection lead. The lx is in very good condition, with no major dings or dents. The doublespeed upgrade was done professionally about 4 months ago. I also have full, boxed versions of MS Dos 5 and Windows 3.0 (boxed from a German escom machine - with manuals in German) on 3.5 inch floppy disks. Offers anyone???? I would prefer a UK sale if possible. Kerwin Robertson Aberdeen, Scotland. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:01:57 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: pkunzip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lars 02h41m ago Lars Hedstroem wrote: > Couldn't find pkunzip on SUPER, isn't it there any longer? Was it there any time? Don'T think so. Try google, it shouldn't be too hard to find. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:11:29 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Niels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niels" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 5:53 AM Subject: Re: Basic > Then, is it possible to create .exm-files in basic? > I think a special compiler would be required but what do I know about that? Anything is possible but I suspect that would be extremely difficult. Another of those things that's more difficult by far than learning C. It would take a very knowlegable Basic hacker with a good knowledge of assembly. There was a basic written for the 95lx that I think made Exm's. I think it was called Swift Basic or some such. I'm not actually sure it made Exm's. It was itself an Exm so if it was interpreted it would probably be like having an Exm. I assume it would work on the 200lx but I don't really know. It was sold by Ace Products, I think. Anybody remember anything about it? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:25:24 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: IRDA on the palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, I have heard a lot of complaints that the IR port of the palmtop is not IRDA compatible, nor that there are any drivers for it. Since I'm using a 700lx some things are little different and probably this. At the moment I'm trieing to install MoreExm on my palmtop and to do that, I have to edit my autoexec.bat. I came across this line: Rem Load IRDA Drivers which is followed by two TSR's. I have shortly looked in my manual (I only have a 200lx manual, no 700lx) and I did not see anything about it. So maybe there is no such driver on the 200lx. I have to go now, so I cannot look further so maybe I'm proven wrong. I cannot test this, because I have no IRDA compliant devices here. This might not be of any value, i don't know, but I throw in in anyway... Niels [n] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:25:56 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org Comments: To: Axel-Berger@Nexgo.De MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:31 AM Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org > Victor Roberts wrote: > > I use Office 2000 under Win98SE and can't remember the > > last time Word crashed. > > Huh? I refuse to use Word on principle, I admit that. But when my (74+) > mother wanted help designing a birthday invitation for friend and asked > nicely I gave it a go. There was this page with an image on it. When I > touched the border with the mouse to drag it a little the whole program > crashed. This happened three times. After that I gave up. I never tried > to find the reason. > For text I use an editor, for stuff like invitation cards with few words > on them the text functions of graphics programs do nicely. There is no > need at all for me to scramble up that slippery learning curve. > Looking at other things it is quite obvious that most people today > dislike science and prefer magic (New Age, Esoterics, Homoeopathy). I > firmly believe this is part of the appeal of Microsoft products. Nothing > to really understand but arcane incantations to learn by heart. I bought Office 97 when it was new and I've used it ever since. I've had plenty of crashes but as I got better with using Word I had fewer and fewer crashes. I still get some but not that many. More common than crashes are times the program just starts working wrong and then if I save the document it's ruined. But I save often enough with different names that it's no longer much of a problem. I can always unload word, run it again with an ok backup and continue. I use Word for all kinds of things. Nothing particular complex. I also have AmiPro that came with my laptop and I used it for a while to see if I liked it. It was ok but I was more used to Word and I went back to it. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:29:43 -0500 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Larry Tachna In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:03:16 -0400, you wrote: >>>No the exm converter converts from a exe to exm. It might work. All >>>you can do is try it. > >cant imagine that will work, besides having to use the library that = calls >the sysmgr routines there are also special startup files (crt0.obj etc) = used >when compiling the .exe, these startup files dictate how the program is >loaded when it is run. You can compile obj files into basic programs. You just have to link them to the basic modual. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:30:51 -0500 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Niels In-Reply-To: <01fb01c255bb$85ca05d0$060210ac@tommy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>> You would need to compile it to a exe file then try it to see if it >> >>you mean .exm here? > >No the exm converter converts from a exe to exm. It might work. All >you can do is try it. The worst thing that will happen is the exm >won't run or it locks up and crashes your 200LX. The bios and os are >in rom so it won't hurt them. > >I think you must be talking about the E2M.EXE file here. I have not = found it >so far but it won't work I guess. Why not? You ARE using Power Basic aren't you? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:27:00 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Basic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry asked about Swift!BASIC for the 95LX. Yes, I remember the product. I said everything I ever wanted to say about the product many years ago. Rather than rely on my memory, see http://www.palmtopPaper.com/ptphtml/4/ptp40065.htm .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:20:49 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Musielewicz" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Basic >>cant imagine that will work, besides having to use the library that calls >>the sysmgr routines there are also special startup files (crt0.obj etc) used >>when compiling the .exe, these startup files dictate how the program is >>loaded when it is run. > >You can compile obj files into basic programs. You just have to link >them to the basic modual. The object modules he's talking about are the modified C startup files. I don't think you'll have much luck making that do anything useful in basic. There are several special requirments for an Exm. I barely remember them but I do remember they have to use the sysmger memory allocation system. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:45:39 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I think you must be talking about the E2M.EXE file here. I have not found it >so far but it won't work I guess. Why not? You ARE using Power Basic aren't you? uhhm no, using qb now I have used the trail a few times, but that was long ago. Was to expensive, and I got some old copy of qb. but i can switch, why not :) but then, would it be usefull for creating exm files (exept the fact that qb exe's are rather large)? Niels ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:55:35 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Basic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The file TC2EXM.TXT in the HP95 Developer's Kit (http://www.palmtop.net/Programming.html) describes how to set up TurboC to create EXM's for the 95LX. The OVERVIEW.DOC in the same zip describes the structure of an .EXM file. -----Original Message----- From: Barry [mailto:barry@FBTC.NET] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:21 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Basic ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Musielewicz" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Basic >>cant imagine that will work, besides having to use the library that calls >>the sysmgr routines there are also special startup files (crt0.obj etc) used >>when compiling the .exe, these startup files dictate how the program is >>loaded when it is run. > >You can compile obj files into basic programs. You just have to link >them to the basic modual. The object modules he's talking about are the modified C startup files. I don't think you'll have much luck making that do anything useful in basic. There are several special requirments for an Exm. I barely remember them but I do remember they have to use the sysmger memory allocation system. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:12:19 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Niels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niels" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:45 PM Subject: Re: Basic > Why not? You ARE using Power Basic aren't you? > > uhhm no, using qb now > I have used the trail a few times, but that was long ago. > Was to expensive, and I got some old copy of qb. > but i can switch, why not :) > but then, would it be usefull for creating exm files (exept the fact that qb > exe's are rather large)? If you're making exe's then you must mean Quick Basic. QBasic is their interpretter. It won't make exe's. Neither one will make exm files. If you want exm files you really need to learn and use C. The SDK and all it's docs and all the extra user stuff for exm's assumes C. Again, it can probably be done in Basic but you'll need some serious expertise in Basic (way beyond just being good at it) and a good knowlege of how the Basic interpretter works and how to modify the way it works. You'll need to know asm. And you'll probably need to know C pretty well to figure out what has to be done. Somebody said that writing an exm in C wasn't for the faint of heart. Writing one in basic would be for the kind person who climbs Everest in a bathing suit or crosses the Atlantic in an inner tube. You probably really don't want to do that. Why do you want it to be an exm? Why not a Dos program? Basic can do that just fine. As for the exe's produced by Quick Basic, there are two kinds that it can make. A true stand alone exe, which is pretty large but not really that bad if you have a flash card. And an exe that uses the basic runtime. Those are pretty small. You do need to have the basic runtime package on board but you only need one copy and all the basic exe's you write can use it just fine as long as it's in your path. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:41:57 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Fluff: Open Office In-Reply-To: <894656320@smtp.yeos.com.my> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 6 Sep 2002 at 18:40, JIMMY TAN wrote: > Yes, Open Office is "young" but I'm willing to bet it will mature very quickly, > like Linux which is now ubiquitous, stable, "complete" and user-friendly (the > GUI version) - thanks to the OSC. I have installed both Mandrake 8.2 and Red Hat 7.2 on a desktop I have dedicated to open source software and find them to be less "complete" than either Windows 95 or Windows 98SE, in that they support a far narrower range of hardware. If you have the "right" hardware, then Linux is a good experience. However, if you have hardware that is either too old or too new to have Linux support, then you're are in serious trouble. In fact, my experience with Linux has given be a greater respect for the programmers who designed Windows. However, it has not changed my poor opinion about Microsoft as a company. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:48:06 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org In-Reply-To: <3D789229.D8F6666D@Nexgo.De> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 6 Sep 2002 at 13:31, Axel Berger wrote: > Victor Roberts wrote: > > I use Office 2000 under Win98SE and can't remember the > > last time Word crashed. > > Huh? I refuse to use Word on principle, I admit that. But when my (74+) > mother wanted help designing a birthday invitation for friend and asked > nicely I gave it a go. There was this page with an image on it. When I > touched the border with the mouse to drag it a little the whole program > crashed. This happened three times. After that I gave up. I never tried > to find the reason. Well, I can't diagnose your problem from here, but I run a one-person consulting business and most of my time is spent doing research or writing memos to my clients using Word. These often include complicated graphics. One of my students did his thesis in Word, complete with charts and pictures. It never crashed when I read and edited it. Right now I am editing a handbook for McGraw-Hill and they have provided me the chapters in Word. It works just fine. As stated above, I can't remmeber any time that Word crashed. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:51:52 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org In-Reply-To: <001101c25550$f7daa000$df5c3a41@HEWLETT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 5 Sep 2002 at 22:56, Domingo wrote: > Since this thread is originally about Open Office, is that product free? I > have Linux, but seldom use it. > Yes, it is free. And it is available for both Linux and Windows and Mac (I think). ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:32:06 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: IRDA on the palmtop Comments: To: Niels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could you share the name of the files? That might help Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niels" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:25 PM Subject: IRDA on the palmtop > Hi there, > > > > I have heard a lot of complaints that the IR port of the palmtop is not IRDA > compatible, nor that there are any drivers for it. Since I'm using a 700lx > some things are little different and probably this. At the moment I'm > trieing to install MoreExm on my palmtop and to do that, I have to edit my > autoexec.bat. I came across this line: > Rem Load IRDA Drivers > which is followed by two TSR's. I have shortly looked in my manual (I only > have a 200lx manual, no 700lx) and I did not see anything about it. So maybe > there is no such driver on the 200lx. I have to go now, so I cannot look > further so maybe I'm proven wrong. I cannot test this, because I have no > IRDA compliant devices here. > > This might not be of any value, i don't know, but I throw in in anyway... > > Niels > > [n] > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 21:37:02 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: resolution and need help with 95LX Comments: To: "F. Kaufman" In-Reply-To: <20020905231000.KCRD3050.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 5 Sep 2002 at 23:10, F. Kaufman wrote: > If I remember the hp95 correctly, it had some spreadsheets also > permanently "etched" into the rom and the could not be deleted. It has > been a long time so I may be wrong about what was permanently part of > the machine. VICTOR, you should remember! (G) I _did_ remember, the second time I answered the question ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:17:03 -0600 Reply-To: Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: FA: HP Palmtop Paper, 29 issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've decided that I no longer need to keep my collection of 29 issues of the HP Palmtop Paper, so I've put it up for auction on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1561831300 (It says to continental United States only, but, for someone on the list who does not live in the continental U.S., I would be willing to make arrangements. Contact me via private e-mail before you bid.) Richard Smith ---------- NO UCE / NO UBE / NO SPAM / http://www.cauce.org A new, poetic weapon in the war against SPAM: http://www.habeas.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:32:24 -0700 Reply-To: Gary Jacek Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Jacek Subject: CF Card Tests - Lexar 128MB 4X - Verbatim 128MB - Simple Tech 64MB Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Daniel Here are some updates for your Storage page http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/200lx/index.shtml#storage I have successfully used the following large CF cards on my HP200LX Double Speed with BIOS 1.02A with no drivers required: Lexar 128MB 4X CF Type 1 LXCIC shows "LEXAR ATA FLASH CARD STORM STBM2" The card is marked P/N 2175, Rev A The card has what appears to be serial number 37121286V29027528 The packaging is marked CF128-04-266 and USB Enabled Simple Technology 64MB CF Type 1 LXCIC shows "STI Flash 5.0" The card is marked 90000-00756-032 001002-FL1-001 Verbatim 128MB CF Type 1 LXCIC shows "CF Card CFA 128MB CTS 3.0" The only external marking appears to be serial number 021711 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:55:26 +0800 Reply-To: JIMMY TAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JIMMY TAN Subject: Fluff: Open Office MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You are right, in terms of completeness, Linux still falls behind the Windows OS's. I guess it's probably because Microsoft has a lot more resources in order to back their programmers who develop drivers for all kinds of devices. I don't know how true this is, I read somewhere that very often Microsoft buys up small & unknown companies and integrate their products into Windows and/or MS Office. Call it quick & dirty, cheating, or whatever, but it works for them. Just my simple thoughts. Jimmy. ____________________Reply Separator____________________ From: "Victor Roberts" Subject: Re: Fluff: Open Office Date: 07 September, 2002 05:41 On 6 Sep 2002 at 18:40, JIMMY TAN wrote: > Yes, Open Office is "young" but I'm willing to bet it will mature very > quickly, like Linux which is now ubiquitous, stable, "complete" and user-> friendly (the GUI version) - thanks to the OSC. I have installed both Mandrake 8.2 and Red Hat 7.2 on a desktop I have dedicated to open source software and find them to be less "complete" than either Windows 95 or Windows 98SE, in that they support a far narrower range of hardware. If you have the "right" hardware, then Linux is a good experience. However, if you have hardware that is either too old or too new to have Linux support, then you're are in serious trouble. In fact, my experience with Linux has given be a greater respect for the programmers who designed Windows. However, it has not changed my poor opinion about Microsoft as a company. ------ Victor Roberts ****************************************************************** This message is intended only for the use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is priviledged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any use, review, disclosure or copying of this message and the information it contains is prohibited. If you receive the message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and discard all its contents. Thank You. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 09:05:02 +0200 Reply-To: Vagner Martin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Vagner Martin Subject: 32 MHz X-Tals MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I have several SMD 32MHz X-Tals(ideal for HP Upgrade), anybody wants? Martin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 09:52:47 +0200 Reply-To: Vagner Martin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Vagner Martin Subject: Re: Basic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > but then, would it be usefull for creating exm files (exept the fact = that qb > exe's are rather large)? Try ASIC, it makes also .COMs form Basic code :-) minimal size of its code is about 250b in .COM Martin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 10:31:34 +0200 Reply-To: Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: Ericsson T39 and www/lx - experiences Comments: To: furlan@gmx.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I think the phone is disturbing the most while dialing. after the PPP connection is made I think You can let the hand go. Try it with Stefan Peichls RING.COM. It detects how noisy the phone is. Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > hi Tomas, Daniel, Tony and the gang, ... > this made me curious, and I tried it once more. > I always had the phone and the palmtop lying on a table, and then > tried to cover on or the other or both with my hands. > Now I kept the phone in my hand like you described and the EME > problems nearly went away. > I also had an acoustic feedback through the Intercom in my office, > because the GSM sound out of its loudspeaker also disappeared. > I'll measure the electromagnetic field of my phone once.... > > I still prefer the cable, because it is quite uncomfortable to hold > the phone all the online run like I did, but it is good to know how > to do it when necessary and the cable is not handy. > > cheers and thanks for your feedback! > > Werner ... /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:16:47 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: 32 MHz X-Tals MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Martin 02h13m ago Vagner Martin wrote: > I have several SMD 32MHz X-Tals(ideal for HP Upgrade), anybody wants? Did you have any problems with that kind of upgrade (Software or hardware)? DId you try all hardware components,especially PCMCIA, serial port, IrDA, with that upgrade? Would be interesting if it is nearly as reliable as the actual 31.xxx MHz upgrade. I'd like to try one. How much? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 11:21:38 +0200 Reply-To: xmarc@free.fr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marc BERLIOUX Subject: Re: CPACK on Linux In-Reply-To: <006001c25577$a5943d20$0a01a8c0@buero> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > CPACK200 is not only file transfer. Sorry, i thought "CPACK" was for "Connectivity PACK" -- Marc BERLIOUX "Scottish guys are not so different. They've got 2 arms, 2 legs. And some of them have a brain, too.." Frank Abok, Australian coach, 1985 - ...and they call that friendship through sport ! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:31:26 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Organization: Goeldi.com Subject: Re: CPACK on Linux Comments: To: xmarc@free.fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > CPACK200 is not only file transfer. > > Sorry, i thought "CPACK" was for "Connectivity PACK" Yes. Connectivity Pack consists of the built-in LX-apps for your desktop: Filer: usable for file transfer and everything else your LX filer has Appointment: as the lx but on the pc Phonebook: same as the pc So calling the CPACK only a file transfer app, would be the same, like calling the lx a portable storage for files, which you can transfer with the built-in filer ;-) Please don't mention the windows apps. They are bad crap! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 13:42:57 +0200 Reply-To: Ulrich.Allen@GMX.De Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Uli Allen Subject: AW: AW: Mobil Siemens ME45 and HPLX In-Reply-To: <005701c25577$5bbc6e20$0a01a8c0@buero> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephan Goeldi wrote: So the ME45 doesn't have the Siemens Interference problem? It certainly has...but connections do not break down or data isn't corrupted. Daniel has written a lot about that topic. But why is it that 2 Watt rf make different interference depending on what phone is the source? Certainly antennas are mounted vertical into the phone and most power is radiated into horizontal direction. Nokia's IR is mounted on top of the phone so the phone beams to the HPLX in a direction where only little rf-power is radiated. That is different with the ME45. IR is on one side and pointing to the HPLX's IR means max rf-power to the palmtop too. Could that be one reason? If in a distance of about 20-30cm I haven't had any problems with the ME45 so far. GPRS and www/lx work like charme with Siemens ME45 and HPLX. Uli ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 23:49:55 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Basic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:12 PM Subject: Re: Basic > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Niels" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:45 PM > Subject: Re: Basic > > > > Why not? You ARE using Power Basic aren't you? > > > > uhhm no, using qb now > > I have used the trail a few times, but that was long ago. > > Was to expensive, and I got some old copy of qb. > > but i can switch, why not :) > > but then, would it be usefull for creating exm files (exept the > fact that qb > > exe's are rather large)? > > If you're making exe's then you must mean Quick Basic. QBasic is > their interpretter. It won't make exe's. > uhm, yes. QuickBasic 4.5 to be exact. > Neither one will make exm files. If you want exm files you really > need to learn and use C. The SDK and all it's docs and all the > extra user stuff for exm's assumes C. Again, it can probably be > done in Basic but you'll need some serious expertise in Basic (way > beyond just being good at it) and a good knowlege of how the Basic > interpretter works and how to modify the way it works. You'll need > to know asm. And you'll probably need to know C pretty well to > figure out what has to be done. > > Somebody said that writing an exm in C wasn't for the faint of > heart. Writing one in basic would be for the kind person who > climbs Everest in a bathing suit or crosses the Atlantic in an > inner tube. You probably really don't want to do that. > I guess i'll just let this idea go, don't you think :) > Why do you want it to be an exm? Why not a Dos program? Basic can > do that just fine. I just wanted to know if it'd be possible. And it's nice to be able to make an exm, just to know. Dos is just fine, but it'd be nice. > > As for the exe's produced by Quick Basic, there are two kinds that > it can make. A true stand alone exe, which is pretty large but not > really that bad if you have a flash card. And an exe that uses the > basic runtime. Those are pretty small. You do need to have the > basic runtime package on board but you only need one copy and all > the basic exe's you write can use it just fine as long as it's in > your path. > I know... Greets, Niels ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 06:32:36 -0700 Reply-To: patrick@west.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Basic In-Reply-To: <002601c25664$c4a262d0$060210ac@tommy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Somebody shouted: >>>Why not? You ARE using Power Basic aren't you? Someone else said: >>Why do you want it to be an exm? =A0Why not a Dos program? =A0Basic= can >>do that just fine. Interesting. Someone asks some questions and a number of people= jump all over the questioner in a rather hostile manner. Email strips= out so much of the tone. Why an EXM instead of a DOS program. Whoever said that must use= a 1000cx. Anyone using a 100lx or 200lx would understand why= someone would like to have their program be an exm. Someone else wrote: >>Neither one will make exm files. =A0If you want exm files you= really >>need to learn and use C. A much more useful comment. Direct and to the point. However= many of us will never learn "C". So for those of us using basic, I have Quickbasic and VBdos, the= answer is not why do you want an exm, but do you want an exm badly enough= to learn "C". Nope. No. Not at this time. And so forth. I just went to the Microsoft Road tour for VB.net a week or so= ago. They said there are about 3 to 4 million professional VB developers and 7= million or so hobbyists. They gave the hobbyists and the part time developer a= great deal of credit for the success of the Windows Platform. I tend to agree. I think it is part of the reason why OS/2 failed= to becmoe popular. If folks had been able to obtain a cheap pretty way to build OS/2= apps there would have been a lot more support for the OS. Later the VB.net folks spent some time showing how simple it is= with net to create a program in vb.net and use it on a pocketPC. I think the coming ease of development for pocketPC will kill the= PalmOS. -- Patrick West, patrickwest3@attbi.com on 09/07/2002 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 08:31:02 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Niels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---- Original Message ----- From: "Niels" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Basic > > Why do you want it to be an exm? Why not a Dos program? Basic can > > do that just fine. > > I just wanted to know if it'd be possible. And it's nice to be able to make > an exm, just to know. Dos is just fine, but it'd be nice. That's an understandable reason. I keep phone numbers and passwords in an lx sitting by my computer. My other LXx stays in Dos and I haven't put it in applications manager for years. But I've looked into writing an exm a number of times for the same reason you give. I never actually did it, though. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 15:38:18 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: IRDA on the palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Could you share the name of the files? That might help > > Domingo Whoops sorry.... I had posted them but I replied to the author (Bob Pigford) of the original message and not to the list *shame on me* Here are the messages (as Bob Pigford did not post it to the list as well...) [ my reply to bob ] I know there are several programs but they can only be used for the task they are desinged for, like a file server on IRDA or the HP/LX browser which supports IRDA phones. This, however, seems to be a driver and thus probably has a wider range of use. The files loaded are: d:\bin\lamptsr.com /l /i d:\bin\comtsr.com /L If anyone knows if these files appear in the autoexec of the 200lx (almost everyone, i assume) please let me know. If not, someone might probably want to 'borrow' those files from me to try if they get it working with IRDA devices... sorry my phone was cheapo :) I don't think it'll always work, for a IRDA device usually reports itself (as far as I know) if requested. When I friend om mine put's his phone in range of his laptop, his phone is automaticaly recognized by windows. Greetz, Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pigford" To: "Niels" Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:36 PM Subject: Re: IRDA on the palmtop > > At the moment I'm > > trieing to install MoreExm on my palmtop and to do that, I have to edit my > > autoexec.bat. I came across this line: > > Rem Load IRDA Drivers > > which is followed by two TSR's. I have shortly looked in my manual (I only > > have a 200lx manual, no 700lx) and I did not see anything about it. So > maybe > > there is no such driver on the 200lx. > > There are IrDA drivers for the HP200LX and other IR related utilities on the > S.U.P.E.R. website. Look under the selection that includes the "I" > programs. > http://www.palmtop.net/super3.html > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 15:52:15 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: IRDA on the palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have tried to execute these tsr's using /?... this is the output I got D:\BIN>lamptsr /? IrDA IrLAP and IrLMP Protocol Stack Version 3.10. Copyright (C) Hewlett Packard Company, 1994-95. All Rights Reserved. Usage: lamptsr [/l | /u] [/i | /w] [/a] /l : load TSR /u : unload TSR /i : infrared mode (default) /w : wired mode /a : adapter mode D:\BIN>comtsr /? COM API TSR Version 3.10. Copyright (C) Hewlett-Packard Company 1994-95. All Rights Reserved. Usage: comtsr [/l | /u] /l : load TSR /u : unload TSR D:\BIN>_ the only thing I don't really understand is the adapter mode for lamptsr... I don't have a clue what it means. I also cannot find anything about it in the 200lx manual (maybe i'm just blind..who knows) and -as I said- I don't have a 700lx manual. in the autoexec, lamptsr is called with /L and /I switches (load, infrared), comtsr with /L switch (load). Niels [n] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 15:55:23 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: DCF specification and the HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DCF (=3D Design rule for Camera File system) is implemented in all new digital cameras. It specifies rules for a directory structure to make memory cards interchangeable between different devices. It allowed me to configure a MMC card (formatted in the digital camera) which I can use now in the following devices: -HP200LX (with MMC/SD PCMCIA adapter) -Win95 Notebook (with MMC/SD PCMCIA adapter) -Digital camera (CASIO Exilim EX-M1) -MP3 player (also CASIO Exilim EX-M1) -Palm m505 I can read/write/copy to the card in all devices. On the HP, notebook and Palm I have access to the complete file system. The HP dir command shows: Volume in drive A is MMC_32MB Directory of A:\ AUDIO 09-02-02 6:32p (MP3) DCIM 09-02-02 6:32p (digital camera) HP 09-07-02 2:43p (HP200LX/notebook) PALM 09-07-02 2:43p (Palm m505) 4 file(s) 0 bytes 23412736 bytes free This enables me for example to access the JPG files from the digital camera on the HP as well as on the Palm. I have put LXPIC into the HP directory and can use it now together with the MMC card in any PC to view the digital camera photos. No need to fight with the custom installation on the PC, I just leave it untouched. It is important to follow the rules for directory names and the allowed character set (in uppercase letters only!). It is all written in the specification PDF file. It helps you also to understand the sometimes strange filenames from your digital camera. Download the 132K PDF file from: http://www.pima.net/standards/it10/PIMA15740/JEIDA_DCF_v1.PDF BTW: I was not able to use a SD card in the HP200LX. I get the "Drive not ready" error. Can't say if this is true for every SD card or only for mine. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 10:47:16 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: patrick@west.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick West" To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:32 AM Subject: Re: Basic >Somebody shouted: >>>>Why not? You ARE using Power Basic aren't you? > >Someone else said: >>>Why do you want it to be an exm? Why not a Dos program? Basic can >>>do that just fine. > >Interesting. Someone asks some questions and a number of people jump >all over the questioner in a rather hostile manner. Email strips out so much >of the tone. I didn't sense any hostility. I know I wasn't feeling hostile. Someone asked a question and a few of us were trying to help out. I think we just wanted to consider all the alternatives since we didn't really have a good direct solution. >Why an EXM instead of a DOS program. Whoever said that must use a >1000cx. Anyone using a 100lx or 200lx would understand why someone >would like to have their program be an exm. I've never seen a 1000cx. I have 2 95LXs and a 100LX and 3 200LXs. Even before I retired when I was using the PIM features a lot I rarely used an exm. I did use a few on the 95. I'm not sure I ever used any on the 200lx. > I just went to the Microsoft Road tour for VB.net a week or so > ago. They said there are about 3 to 4 million professional VB > developers and 7 million or so hobbyists. They gave the > hobbyists and the part time developer a great deal of credit > for the success of the Windows Platform. I agree. I think that's been a primary reason for the success of a number of platforms. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 13:12:22 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Basic In-Reply-To: <20020907133249.NMCV19682.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@d1-xp-pro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Patrick West wrote: > I think the coming ease of development for pocketPC will kill the > PalmOS. I hope you're right, because up until now it's been an expensive nightmare to build apps for Windows CE (or whatever they call it these days). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 22:38:43 +0200 Reply-To: Michel Bel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michel Bel Subject: FS: Several 200LX's with 448MB Flashdisk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have 3 refurbished 2MB SS 200LX's for sale, all with good screen, and good battery covers. All have well-glued right hinge-cracks however. They come with as new manuals ( some even unused), serial cable and about 250MB LX software. This software is on a 448MB !! Simpletech/SiliconTech SLATAFL448 flashdisk, which works fine with the ACECARD3 driver on SUPER on both SS and DS LX's. One note: The serial numbers may no longer reflect the real age of motherboard or screen. I am asking 250 Euro's plus shipping each, but will consider decent offers seriously. Please contact me off-line for info. I have also other 200LX parts available ( no complete screens or battery covers though ). Tell me what you need. Michel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 13:51:23 -0700 Reply-To: Donald Collins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Donald Collins Subject: FS: ACT! for the HP Palmtops 95LX 100LX 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wanted to let everyone know in case your interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2050587803&r1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:12:08 -0700 Reply-To: patrick@west.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Telus Monarch 130c cdpd card Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, I came across this at a thrift store today. It takes a 9 volt= battery, so I was wondering if it was useable with the hplx? -- Patrick West, patrick@west.net on 09/07/2002 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 09:05:05 +1200 Reply-To: Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: Basic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Martin wrote: >Try ASIC, it makes also .COMs from Basic code :-) >minimal size of its code is about 250b in .COM I second that emotion. I am trying to teach myself C, and as a first exercise, I ported one of my reasonably complex ASIC programs into C. The resulting executable is 21KB in size. The original ASIC-created .EXE is only 14KB. Also, the ASIC version does a couple of things that I can't yet make the C program do. Cheers, Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 18:17:50 -0400 Reply-To: N Knight Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: N Knight Subject: Re: Basic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Ian Butler >Reply-To: Ian Butler >To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: Basic >Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 13:12:22 -0700 > >On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Patrick West wrote: > > > I think the coming ease of development for pocketPC will kill the > > PalmOS. > >I hope you're right, because up until now it's been an expensive nightmare >to build apps for Windows CE (or whatever they call it these days). > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Anyone know what is up with Palm? On wall street it is selling for 76 cents.....which means it must either be delisted or take some action to bring it over $1.00 Does this mean the palm OS is DOA? _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 17:36:44 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: N Knight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "N Knight" To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 5:17 PM Subject: Re: Basic > Anyone know what is up with Palm? On wall street it is > selling for 76 cents.....which means it must either be > delisted or take some action to bring it over $1.00 > > Does this mean the palm OS is DOA? I read a few posts last week in a palm newsgroup that referred to Sony having bought Palm. I tried to find some info about that somewhere on the web but I wasn't able to find anything. I re-read those posts and they seemed serious. They were in this sort of form: "Now that Palm has been purchased by Sony what changes do you epxect Sony to make?" Then some replies speculated on what the changes might be. They might have been responding to a troll or maybe they really found something about that. I couldnt find it. But it seemed like a serious discussion. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 01:05:40 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Palm sold? (was: Re: Basic) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have read something about that as well, though I don't know any details, nor where I read it. Probably a very unhelpfull post, but it's not only Barry who read it... It was a more or less 'official' article, in a (online?) magazine or something alike, not some postings in a list. Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 12:36 AM Subject: Re: Basic > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "N Knight" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: Basic > > > > Anyone know what is up with Palm? On wall street it is > > selling for 76 cents.....which means it must either be > > delisted or take some action to bring it over $1.00 > > > > Does this mean the palm OS is DOA? > > I read a few posts last week in a palm newsgroup that referred to > Sony having bought Palm. I tried to find some info about that > somewhere on the web but I wasn't able to find anything. I re-read > those posts and they seemed serious. > > They were in this sort of form: "Now that Palm has been purchased > by Sony what changes do you epxect Sony to make?" Then some > replies speculated on what the changes might be. > > They might have been responding to a troll or maybe they really > found something about that. I couldnt find it. But it seemed like > a serious discussion. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:23:55 -0700 Reply-To: joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Buford Subject: Re: Fwd: Flashcard and Batt life Comments: cc: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just got a 256MB CF card from Ebay. It works fine in my 200lx (SS and DS ) using the acecard driver. without the driver the 200lx does not see the card. Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 20:52:40 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: IRDA on the palmtop Comments: To: Niels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have seen those files before. They are on SUPER at http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl?dbname=irda097.zip&URL=http:// www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/irda097.zip but they are described there as printer drivers for built-in applications. Since I never had a need to print from the built-in applications, I never pursued testing them. It would be interesting if they could be used for file transfer in true IRDA mode. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niels" To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 9:52 AM Subject: Re: IRDA on the palmtop > I have tried to execute these tsr's using /?... > > this is the output I got > > > D:\BIN>lamptsr /? > IrDA IrLAP and IrLMP Protocol Stack Version 3.10. > Copyright (C) Hewlett Packard Company, 1994-95. > All Rights Reserved. > Usage: lamptsr [/l | /u] [/i | /w] [/a] > /l : load TSR > /u : unload TSR > /i : infrared mode (default) > /w : wired mode > /a : adapter mode > > D:\BIN>comtsr /? > COM API TSR Version 3.10. > Copyright (C) Hewlett-Packard Company 1994-95. > All Rights Reserved. > Usage: comtsr [/l | /u] > /l : load TSR > /u : unload TSR > > D:\BIN>_ > > the only thing I don't really understand is the adapter mode for lamptsr... > I don't have a clue what it means. I also cannot find anything about it in > the 200lx manual (maybe i'm just blind..who knows) and -as I said- I don't > have a 700lx manual. > > in the autoexec, lamptsr is called with /L and /I switches (load, infrared), > comtsr with /L switch (load). > > Niels > > [n] > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 21:14:50 -0400 Reply-To: N Knight Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: N Knight Subject: Re: Palm sold? (was: Re: Basic) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I've heard rumblings about Sony and others buying Palm. The fact that Palm is still trading on wall street indicates to me it hasn't been sold yet. Once it is sold and the sale finalized the sale of Palm would be halted and trading would be under the new stock symbol (Sony?). Sony has expressed interest in Palm as have others. I've been looking for news on this....nothing yet. I've got my champagne ready for when Palm is DOA..... _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 21:26:01 -0500 Reply-To: n2vip@VERIZON.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > From: Barry > Date: 2002/09/07 Sat PM 05:36:44 CDT > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Basic > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "N Knight" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: Basic > > > > Anyone know what is up with Palm? On wall street it is > > selling for 76 cents.....which means it must either be > > delisted or take some action to bring it over $1.00 Not right away, but yes, that is true... They have time to devise a plan to raise the valuation of the stock (like a reverse-split where they combine multiple shares into a new, greater-than $1 value share..) > They might have been responding to a troll or maybe they really > found something about that. I couldnt find it. But it seemed like > a serious discussion. As a publicly traded company, they *would* get delisted if they sold the company without letting the owners (shareholders) know of the action, and ask for their vote)... Ken ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 14:09:36 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Fw: powerpoint for lx200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit oops .. sent to yves resending to group the file's already sent to daniel (his comments : its good) ..pk ----- Original Message ----- From: pksharma To: Yves Leurquin Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:10 PM Subject: powerpoint for lx200 > hello guys > > i have come across a power point for dos and have > it on my hdd 479kb > > how to send to daniel's site ? > > i'm sending email to daniel with the file .. hope > it solves the need > > ..pk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Yves Leurquin > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:40 AM > Subject: Re: VGA out card > > > Daniel, > > > Do you know of such a program, which cannot only output > JPG, but also > > has the necessary capabilities to create slides (text, > simple drawings, > > easy handling of background tamplates etc.)? > > Powerpoint can output GIFs. On the 200LX, I haven't yet > found such a flexible > application. Freelance and Harvard Graphics 2.3 are usable > on the Palmtop. > Printing to a Postscript printer file should be an option. > Then use one of > the many converters available on the Swedish web page you > indicated should do > the work. As you see there is still a lot of work to do to > be able to produce > "powerpoint" presentations on the LX. > > Now that I know that one can upload picture to a Nikon > Coolpix, I will do > some more research on how to produce the files on the 200LX > > \/ > /ves > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 10:41:58 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: IRDA on the palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Domingo, I have looked at the irda097 file. These seem to be the same as my files, I also have a irda.tsr file of 832 bytes in my d:\_dat (in the file described below, you should put that file in c:\_dat) According to super, the tsr's are made by Nicholas Chan. The files print they are (c) by HP. The files on super are version 0.02 for lamptsr and 0.01 for comtsr. 'my' files are both version 3.10. Also, the lamptsr on my palmtop describes the /a (adapter) function, where the version on super does not, but it's available nevertheless. The readme file doesn't clear that up. If anyone's interested in trying what they can do with this, I'd be glad to send them to you. I don't think there will be any complaints from HP. Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Domingo" To: Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 2:52 AM Subject: Re: IRDA on the palmtop > I have seen those files before. They are on SUPER at > http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl?dbname=irda097.zip&URL=http:// > www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/irda097.zip > but they are described there as printer drivers for built-in applications. > Since I never had a need to print from the built-in applications, I never > pursued testing them. It would be interesting if they could be used for > file transfer in true IRDA mode. > > Domingo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Niels" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 9:52 AM > Subject: Re: IRDA on the palmtop > > > > I have tried to execute these tsr's using /?... > > > > this is the output I got > > > > > > D:\BIN>lamptsr /? > > IrDA IrLAP and IrLMP Protocol Stack Version 3.10. > > Copyright (C) Hewlett Packard Company, 1994-95. > > All Rights Reserved. > > Usage: lamptsr [/l | /u] [/i | /w] [/a] > > /l : load TSR > > /u : unload TSR > > /i : infrared mode (default) > > /w : wired mode > > /a : adapter mode > > > > D:\BIN>comtsr /? > > COM API TSR Version 3.10. > > Copyright (C) Hewlett-Packard Company 1994-95. > > All Rights Reserved. > > Usage: comtsr [/l | /u] > > /l : load TSR > > /u : unload TSR > > > > D:\BIN>_ > > > > the only thing I don't really understand is the adapter mode for > lamptsr... > > I don't have a clue what it means. I also cannot find anything about it in > > the 200lx manual (maybe i'm just blind..who knows) and -as I said- I don't > > have a 700lx manual. > > > > in the autoexec, lamptsr is called with /L and /I switches (load, > infrared), > > comtsr with /L switch (load). > > > > Niels > > > > [n] > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 13:26:26 -0400 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: CC:Mail and PCMCIA 2 in 700lx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 06-09 09:44 EDT, you wrote: >> ccLXTCP package. I don't think it's entirely simple to install, >> but has been reported to work well once it is. > > Isn't it written ccLXPOP? I once tried to install it, because it seemed to > be exactly what I wanted. I didn't figure out what went wrong with the TCP > stuff. Why isn't there any preconfigured packages of ccLXPOP AND TCP > drivers? Nowadays one only has to change the ISP phone number, loginname and > password. I use cc:lxpop with lxtcp to reach the few newsgroups I read during my vacations, and it works flawlessly. I use a GPRS connection with my Nokia 6310 and a cable between them. I can send you my connection scripts, if you want them. -- Erwann ABALEA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:23:14 -0700 Reply-To: "Martin G. Ramirez" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Martin G. Ramirez" Subject: Re: Fluff: OpenOffice.org In-Reply-To: <3D782AFE.151F4077@freeport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:11 pm 9/5/2002 -0600, you wrote: >And how many have never been "entrenched in Micro$oft Office" >and have remained true to WordPerfect or WordStar? > >-- >Richard & Patti Smith >---------- I have been using WordStar in its various versions since 1985 and still use ver 7.0 for course syllabi, letters, grant proposals and other things. Since I started using my 200LX more extensively in the past year, I have mostly switched to using MS Word 6.0/DOS, given its ease of use on the LX vs WordStar. With Word's on-screen display of character formatting (bold, italics, etc.), there's less need to use Print (Page) Preview, unlike in WordStar. Moreover, if one de-selects the "Display Line Breaks" option on the Preferences menu, all lines are visible on screen while you work (i.e they don't extend out of view off the right edge of the screen), so there's no need to scroll right to see what's there, a great feature to use on the LX, as well as on my desktop and Libretto systems. I also tried using WordPerfect 5.1+ along the way during the transition, but did not really like its complex function key system, and its need for ScreenExtender to get on-screen display of formatting. On the other hand, since the university standard is MS WordWin, I have Word97 installed to deal with such files when I get them, but otherwise, I don't really use it. ============================ Dr. Martin G. Ramirez Department of Biology Loyola Marymount University One LMU Drive, MS 8220 Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659, U.S.A. (310) 338-5120 FAX: (310) 338-4479 e-mail: mramirez@lmu.edu ============================= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 00:12:11 -0400 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: Basic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 07-09 17:05 EDT, you wrote: > Martin wrote: >>Try ASIC, it makes also .COMs from Basic code :-) >>minimal size of its code is about 250b in .COM > I second that emotion. I am trying to teach myself > C, and as a first exercise, I ported one of my > reasonably complex ASIC programs into C. > The resulting executable is 21KB in size. > The original ASIC-created .EXE is only 14KB. Well... We already discussed that point before. The resulting size is variable, and depends on the libraries you (or the IDE) include, on the eventual presence of the debug symbols, on the quality and the goals of the optimization (the eternal trade-off between size and speed), ... > Also, the ASIC version does a couple of things that > I can't yet make the C program do. Could I have an example of what you were able to do in ASIC and can't manage to do in C (with which compiler?) ? If you find this too off-topic, a private reply is OK. If you prefer to search by yourself, it's also OK to me (I'm self-taught, I can understand that). -- Erwann ABALEA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 07:07:52 -0700 Reply-To: Terry Owen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Owen Subject: OT: FS on eBay - Casio A-22T MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I probably wouldn't post this on the LX list but I remember someone was asking about presentation software and this unit can use a VGA Voyager card(okay - I don't really know what that is but it does have a simple version of PowerPoint in ROM). And it has 2 storage card slots, which is actually very nice. The reserve is $65 so conceivably you could put together a portable dedicated presentation machine for not alot of money. Back when I got my first handheld, I had a WinCE 1.0 machine, so even though this is an old unsupported 2.0, I had to say I was impressed by the improvements between the 2 versions. Pocket Word, Outlook and Excel (multiple worksheets) are all pretty decent, considering it's Microsoft... (Please no flames, I'm really not an OS bigot. They all have their strengths and weaknesses.) Item #1379877390 or search for Casio A-22T Thanks, Terry Owen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 07:07:53 -0700 Reply-To: joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Buford Subject: Re: Fwd: Flashcard and Batt life Comments: cc: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Correction: I just got a Robanton (no part #) 256MB CF card from Ebay. It works fine in my 200lx (SS and DS ) using the acecard driver. without the driver the 200lx does not see the card. Also works in my Jornada 548 (its permanent Home) Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:16:46 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Organization: Goeldi.com Subject: Re: CC:Mail and PCMCIA 2 in 700lx Comments: To: Erwann ABALEA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I use cc:lxpop with lxtcp to reach the few newsgroups I read during my > vacations, and it works flawlessly. I use a GPRS connection with my > Nokia 6310 and a cable between them. > > I can send you my connection scripts, if you want them. Yes please! TIA Stephan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:19:23 -0400 Reply-To: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O Subject: Re: Basic In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's a program called pocket C for the CE and palm platforms that = makes development very easy. It's a somewhat limited language but the = model is quite good. It could be enahnced to provide all the = functionality of a full C compiler. It follows the BASIC approach in = that a runtime lib is needed. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu]On Behalf Of > Ian Butler > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 3:12 PM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Basic >=20 >=20 > On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Patrick West wrote: >=20 > > I think the coming ease of development for pocketPC will kill the > > PalmOS. >=20 > I hope you're right, because up until now it's been an expensive = nightmare > to build apps for Windows CE (or whatever they call it these days). >=20 > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >=20 >=20 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:19:23 -0400 Reply-To: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O Subject: Re: Basic In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wrote the trainsch program in ASIC and can atest to how small the = execs are. I think the only thing that makes smaller execs (besides = assembler, of course) is moonrock (a basic like lang). The only problem = is that ASIC is very limited. The good thing is that it is extensible = with libraries.=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu]On Behalf Of > Vagner Martin > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 2:53 AM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Basic >=20 >=20 > > but then, would it be usefull for creating exm files (exept the=20 > fact that qb > > exe's are rather large)? >=20 > Try ASIC, it makes also .COMs form Basic code :-) > minimal size of its code is about 250b in .COM >=20 > Martin >=20 > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >=20 >=20 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 17:25:17 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: FS: Norton Commander 4.0 German, original disks, manual, box MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 09.09.02 5:17 PM +0200 Hi friends, I have Symantec's Norton Commander version 4.0 for DOS for sale, German version, original diskettes, original manual (German), original box. Best offer until Friday 13th September, 12:00 MEST will get it. Shipping to European destinations only. This version of Norton Commander works perfectly on the palmtop. Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 17:25:16 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: IRDA on the palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Niels, Domingo and others 1 day 06h31m ago Niels wrote: > I have looked at the irda097 file. > These seem to be the same as my files, I also have a irda.tsr file of = 832 > bytes in my d:\_dat (in the file described below, you should put that = file > in c:\_dat) > According to super, the tsr's are made by Nicholas Chan. The files = print > they are (c) by HP. Wasn't Alan working on hacking these IrDa drivers to make them generally usable? AFAIK, these files which are available on SUPER and on the 700LX were a = very early implementation of the IrDA standard and only useable for printing. Alan, can you comment? How far did you get with your IrDA driver project? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:50:35 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Fwd: Flashcard and Batt life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe, What brand (etc.) card? bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Buford" > I just got a 256MB CF card from Ebay. > > It works fine in my 200lx (SS and DS ) using the acecard driver. without > the driver the 200lx does not see the card. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:53:57 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: OOPS! Re: Fwd: Flashcard and Batt life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry Joe, You answered my question just before I asked it. Telepathy? Thanks for the update. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Buford" Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:07 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: Flashcard and Batt life > Correction: > > I just got a Robanton (no part #) 256MB CF card from Ebay. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:08:04 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Basic In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Eduardo Fake-O Name-O wrote: > There's a program called pocket C for the CE and palm platforms that > makes development very easy. It's a somewhat limited language but the > model is quite good. It could be enahnced to provide all the > functionality of a full C compiler. It follows the BASIC approach in > that a runtime lib is needed. But the traditional method of developing applications, using Visual C++ (I don't know if Visual Basic is supported) and the Windows CE SDK, is ridiculously expensive because Microsoft charges (or charged) something like $500 for the Windows CE SDK over and above the cost of Visual C++. Not a very good way to encourage software development. For instance, in the roughly six years that WinCE has been out, I haven't seen a single word processor developed for it. Pocket Word, which is terribly limited and essentially useless for serious word processing, is the only option. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:52:10 +0200 Reply-To: "ganwer402@gmx.net" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Wagner Subject: Re: Basic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ian, see www.softmaker.de, a german company developing an office-suite, which is also available for CE. Haven't tested it, but they say it's superior to M$. P.J. > the roughly six years that WinCE has been out, I haven't seen a single > word processor developed for it. Pocket Word, which is terribly limited ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:57:42 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Fluff: CE Office software - was: Re: Basic Comments: To: "ganwer402@gmx.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul, I can't imagine a software company developing a product and then saying that it wasn't as good as the one that was already on the market. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Wagner" Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:52 PM Subject: Re: Basic > see www.softmaker.de, a german company developing an office-suite, which is > also available for CE. Haven't tested it, but they say it's superior to M$. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:37:46 +0200 Reply-To: Gijs Leegwater Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gijs Leegwater Subject: Hi - GIF viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi guys, I'm back on the list(i think). I don't exactly know why i was removed, but i think it was my mailbox was full for quite a time (i was getting those irritating viruses all the time, i get them about 10 times a day)... I have a little question. I was searching for a way to view PDF files on the 200lx. The dos version of acrobat reader needs 386+ so that didn't work. But on some japanese site i found some program which converts PDF pages to GIF files. It works quite good, it looks exactly as in Acrobat Reader (including all the anti-aliasing things). So that was great. But then I was searching for some DOS GIF viewer, but it seems there isnt even a simple program which can display GIF images FAST. Programs like LXPIC need seconds(!!) to build the screen!! Because PDF's are quite big it it absolutely needed to scroll fast. Then i thought i found the ideal program: Graphics WorkShop. It included some BMP examples and the scrolling was very fast. But when I tried to open the GIF files, it asked for a conversion filter because of the multiple colors and it takes MINUTES to convert it(for each page)!! So I converted a GIF to 2-color with the 2GIF program(cnet). In explorer it looked fine, but grahpics wroskhop couldnt open it!!! (only gave a beep)!! So STUPID!! I already tried all GIF viewers from simtel, but none is OK. IT is THAT difficult to use direct vid mem access? I think im gonna write my own viewer with optimal settigns for vieweing PDF-GIF files made with the converter... Bye, Cheiz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:02:30 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eduardo Fake-O Name-O" To: Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Basic > I wrote the trainsch program in ASIC and can atest to how > small the execs are. I think the only thing that makes smaller > execs (besides assembler, of course) is moonrock (a > basic like lang). The only problem is that ASIC is very limited. > The good thing is that it is extensible with libraries. There's also Basm, a basic compiler that outputs assembly code, which then can be assembled with Masm. I haven't ever used it but I've played with it and it makes small and seemingly very fast executables. It is a pretty limited and odd version of Basic, though. The nice thing about Basm is that it's assembly output is the entire program. Including everything that would normally be in libraries. So there's no runtime. There's also a 286 version that outputs 286 code and it works fine on the LX too. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:16:23 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Everytime I want to reply to a post on the list, I goof and just press the "reply" button. And everytime I send a mail to the person that made the original post instead of sending a post to the list :-( This starts to annoy me (and many listmembers that get mails from me AND from the list).... Isn't there a way to change the header of the postings that way that a "reply" goes to HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU? (Sorry, I'm a dump outlook-user *g) regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:19:30 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It used to be that way, until it was decided changing it to the way it is now might quench some bad flame wars and OT threads that were threatening the list. -----Original Message----- From: Oliver W. Leibenguth [mailto:Oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:16 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver Everytime I want to reply to a post on the list, I goof and just press the "reply" button. And everytime I send a mail to the person that made the original post instead of sending a post to the list :-( This starts to annoy me (and many listmembers that get mails from me AND from the list).... Isn't there a way to change the header of the postings that way that a "reply" goes to HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU? (Sorry, I'm a dump outlook-user *g) regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:27:20 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > It used to be that way, until it was decided changing it to > the way it is now might quench some bad flame wars and OT threads that > were threatening the list. Hm, I see... So I have to think before pressing one of these buttons? Hey, it worked this time ;) regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:44:07 -0500 Reply-To: n2vip@VERIZON.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The real strength of PocketC is that code can be created *on the Palm device* - although, it would take a special kind of hacker to enjoy "scratching" their code in the "virtual keyboard" interface ;^) I've used it (for trivial things), it's nice... Ken > From: Eduardo Fake-O Name-O > Date: 2002/09/09 Mon AM 09:19:23 CDT > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Basic > > There's a program called pocket C for the CE and palm platforms that makes development very easy. It's a somewhat limited language but the model is quite good. It could be enahnced to provide all the functionality of a full C compiler. It follows the BASIC approach in that a runtime lib is needed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:49:20 +0200 Reply-To: Gijs Leegwater Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gijs Leegwater Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can also choose 'Reply all' and delete the e-mail address of the sender. -Cheiz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" To: Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver > > It used to be that way, until it was decided changing it to > > the way it is now might quench some bad flame wars and OT threads > that > > were threatening the list. > > Hm, I see... So I have to think before pressing one of these buttons? > Hey, it worked this time ;) > > regards, > Oliver > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:39:40 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver Comments: To: Gijs Leegwater In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > You can also choose 'Reply all' and delete the e-mail > address of the sender. I know. That's what I do when I miss the "reply" button ;-) regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 17:58:43 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver Comments: To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Isn't there a way to change the header of the postings that way that a >>"reply" goes to HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU? (Sorry, I'm a dump >>outlook-user *g) I believe this is a function of the list server, when I first started reading the list I could hit reply and the reply went to the list but at some point that changed and now it goes to the person who posted the message instead of the list. I also would prefer if it went back to replying to the list ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 17:58:54 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>You can also choose 'Reply all' and delete the e-mail address of >>the sender. that's a great tip thanks!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:59:09 -0500 Reply-To: jmusielewicz@EARTHLINK.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Using Goin' Postal in Dos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SSB0aG91Z2h0IHRoZSBMaXN0IG1pZ2h0IGJlIGludGVyZXN0ZWQgaW4gdGhpcyBzaW5jZSBwZW9w bGUgZG8gdXNlIEdvaW4nClBvc3RhbCBhbmQgc29tZSBtaWdodCB0cnkgdG8gcnVuIGl0IG9uIHRo ZSBkZXNrdG9wIGluIHB1cmUgZG9zIChub3QgdGhlCndpbmRvd3MgZW11bGF0ZWQgc3R1ZmYpIEJh c2ljYWxseSBJIGFtIGR1YWwgYm9vdGluZyBEUi1ET1MgYW5kIFdpbjk4LiBJIHdhcwpoYXZpbmcg bWFzc2l2ZSBwcm9ibGVtcyB3aXRoIHRoZSBtYWlsZXIgbm90IGxvZ2dpbmcgaW4gYW5kIHN0b3Bw aW5nIG9uCmRvd25sb2FkcyB3aGVuIGl0IGRpZC4gVGhlIHByb2JsZW0gd2FzIHRoZSBlcHBwZC5l eGUgd2hpY2ggU3RldmUgTGF3c29uCm1vZGlmaWVkLiBJdCBzZWVtZWQgdG8gd29yayBmaW5lIGlu IGEgV2luZG93cyBET1MgYm94IGJ1dCBwdXQgaXQgaW4gcmVhbCBkb3MKYW5kIGl0IGp1c3Qgd291 bGRuJ3Qgd29yay4gSSBzd2FwcGVkIGl0IG91dCB3aXRoIHRoZSBvcmlnaW5hbCBlcHBwZC5leGUg ZnJvbQp0aGUgRG9zcHBwIHBhY2thZ2UgYW5kIHdoYWxhaCEhISBQcm9ibGVtcyBhbGwgZ29uZS4g T3RoZXJ3aXNlIHRoZSBtYWlsZXIKd29ya3MgZ3JlYXQuIFNvIGlmIHlvdSBhcmUgaGF2aW5nIGFs b3Qgb2YgcHJvYmxlbXMgd2l0aCBHUCBpbiBkb3Mgc3dpdGNoIG91dAp0aGUgcGFja2V0IGRyaXZl ciEhCgpKb2huCg== ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:56:56 +0800 Reply-To: Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver In-Reply-To: ; from Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM on Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 01:19:30PM -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 01:19:30PM -0600, Feldman, Robert wrote: > It used to be that way, until it was decided changing it > to the way it is now might quench some bad flame wars and > OT threads that were threatening the list. Those are merely annoying when compared with broken autoresponders. The latter are /really/ nasty stuff when combined with Reply-To-List, and downright aggravating for list archive maintainers for obvious reasons. This was one of the key reasons why SourceForge banned Reply-To-List from all of their hosted lists: - Adrian ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:52:23 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: OT: FS on eBay - Casio A-22T In-Reply-To: <20020909140752.58672.qmail@web10803.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Terry Owen wrote: > I probably wouldn't post this on the LX list but I remember someone > was asking about presentation software and this unit can use a VGA > Voyager card... Thanks for the pointer. I was one of the originators of that thread, and I ended up meeting my need by "inheriting" an abandoned Libretto 70 from a sister company. (No, they don't have any more.) -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:03:34 +0800 Reply-To: LEONG FOO TEK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LEONG FOO TEK Subject: Re: 32 MHz X-Tals Comments: cc: Vagner Martin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, May I know what is SMD 32MHz X-Tals? If possible can I have one? Regards, Leong ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vagner Martin" Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 3:05 PM Subject: 32 MHz X-Tals Hi I have several SMD 32MHz X-Tals(ideal for HP Upgrade), anybody wants? 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Thank You. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:00:04 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi friends 07h28m ago Larry Tachna wrote: > >>You can also choose 'Reply all' and delete the e-mail address of > >>the sender. > > that's a great tip thanks!! ..and Post/LX users simply hit "t" instead of "F3", this creates a reply to the address in the original "To:" field instead of the "From:" field, which is the list address in our case. And usually only the list address. Except the poster of the message you are replying to used the "Reply to all" function of outlook and didn't wipe out the not needed address(es). Then they are all in the To: field and Post/LX will use them all for your reply. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:00:06 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Gijs 11h57m ago Gijs Leegwater wrote: > multiple colors and it takes MINUTES to convert it(for each page)!! So = I > converted a GIF to 2-color with the 2GIF program(cnet). In explorer it > looked fine, but grahpics wroskhop couldnt open it!!! (only gave a = beep)!! > So STUPID!! I already tried all GIF viewers from simtel, but none is = OK. IT > is THAT difficult to use direct vid mem access? I think im gonna write = my > own viewer with optimal settigns for vieweing PDF-GIF files made with = the > converter... I assume the PDF-GiF conversion is only possible on the desktop? If so, have you tried to convert the GIF to something else which is easier to display on the palmtop? PCX for example? Or reducing the resolution of the GIF? Or both? Since you have to involve the desktop PC anyway, you could write a batch file which converts to GIF and then does any other conversion steps in one step. And please post your final solution to the list, and send me the PDF converter, so I can put it onto SUPER! :-) Another idea: Maybe the TIFF format could also be a choice, the TIF viewer in the BGFAX package (view.exe) is relatively good. Try to find the format which produces the smallest files and provides the highest display quality on the LX. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:06:11 +0200 Reply-To: "Michael L." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Michael L." Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Hallo, I know his problem, too. Let's take a look at the header of the mails: In the E-mail, the "reply-to"-parameter is set to from-address. The "sender"-parameter takes the list-address. Most E-mail-programs (like this I'm writing with) use the "reply-to"-parameter to generate an answer. This concerns *all* mails in the list. So it seems to be an error generated by the listserver, that changes the "reply-to"- and the "sender"-fields in the mails. This is *not* RFC-compliant: Regarding the rules (RFC 822, Standard for ARPA Internet Text Messages), the RFC says: SENDER: This field contains the authenticated identity of the AGENT that sends the message. ... If the contents of the "Sender" field would be completely redundant with the "From" field, then the "Sender" field need not be present and its use is discouraged (though still legal). In particular, the "Sender" field MUST be present if it is NOT the same as the "From" Field. ... The Sender mailbox specification includes a word sequence which must correspond to a specific agent (i.e., a human user or a computer program) rather than a standard address. REPLY-TO: This field provides a general mechanism for indicating any mailbox(es) to which responses are to be sent. (Later:) The "Sender" field mailbox should NEVER be used automatically, in a recipient's reply message. ... If the "Reply-To" field exists, then the reply should go to the addresses indicated in that field and not to the address(es) indicated in the "From" field. So it should be clear, that the the repy-to-parameter has to contain the list-address. But it doesn't. Mit freundlichem Gru_ / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz www.lennartz-online.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ----- Urspr|ngliche Nachricht ----- ("Oliver W. Leibenguth" ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:16:23 +0200) >Everytime I want to reply to a post on the list, I goof and just press >the "reply" button. And everytime I send a mail to the person that >made the original post instead of sending a post to the list :-( >This starts to annoy me (and many listmembers that get mails from me >AND from the list).... >Isn't there a way to change the header of the postings that way that a >"reply" goes to HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU? (Sorry, I'm a dump >outlook-user *g) >regards, >Oliver >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:21:59 +1000 Reply-To: Al Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Subject: HP200LX 1Mg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HP200LX 1Mg in good condition asking AU$380 Alain Sydney ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:01:05 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Michael 51m ago Michael L. wrote: > So it should be clear, that the the > repy-to-parameter has to contain the list-address. But it doesn't. AS said before, Al changed the list server behaviour intentionally to spoil flame wars. I would suggest changing it back to the default behaviour and observe if again flame wars are fought out on the list. If yes, change it again, but leave it the default and convenient way as long as it works. Maybe we could all remember that when replying to offensive mails, and be a bit more careful that we were long ago. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:22:12 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer Comments: cc: g_leegwater@HOTMAIL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, >But then I was searching for some DOS GIF viewer, but it seems there isn't >even a simple program which can display GIF images FAST. Programs >like LXPIC need seconds(!!) to build the screen!! The 80186 class CPU in 200LX is simply weak for graphics use. Stefan Peichl (LxPic author) once told me the decoding complexity of various image formats is proportional to this: bmp:pcx:gif:jpg 1:5:20:100 You just cannot expect subsecond GIF display times on the LX, because there is a lot of calculating work to do, which takes long on an XT-class CPU. Consider that LxPic is written in pure assembler and the code has been refined for several years. There is nothing substantially faster possible on our palmtops. You have to live with it or buy a Morphy One from Japan. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:38:40 +0100 Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Svagr, Radek" Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Convert the GIF to PCX by pressing F4 in LXPIC. BTW: where did you get that PDF-GIF converter, can I have it? Radek > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List On Behalf Of Gijs Leegwater > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:38 PM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Hi - GIF viewer > > Hi guys, > > I'm back on the list(i think). I don't exactly know why i was removed, but i > think it was my mailbox was full for quite a time (i was getting those > irritating viruses all the time, i get them about 10 times a day)... > > I have a little question. I was searching for a way to view PDF files on the > 200lx. The dos version of acrobat reader needs 386+ so that didn't work. But > on some japanese site i found some program which converts PDF pages to GIF > files. It works quite good, it looks exactly as in Acrobat Reader (including > all the anti-aliasing things). So that was great. But then I was searching > for some DOS GIF viewer, but it seems there isnt even a simple program which > can display GIF images FAST. Programs like LXPIC need seconds(!!) to build > the screen!! Because PDF's are quite big it it absolutely needed to scroll > fast. Then i thought i found the ideal program: Graphics WorkShop. It > included some BMP examples and the scrolling was very fast. But when I tried > to open the GIF files, it asked for a conversion filter because of the > multiple colors and it takes MINUTES to convert it(for each page)!! So I > converted a GIF to 2-color with the 2GIF program(cnet). In explorer it > looked fine, but grahpics wroskhop couldnt open it!!! (only gave a beep)!! > So STUPID!! I already tried all GIF viewers from simtel, but none is OK. IT > is THAT difficult to use direct vid mem access? I think im gonna write my > own viewer with optimal settigns for vieweing PDF-GIF files made with the > converter... > > Bye, > > Cheiz > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:54:03 +0200 Reply-To: Gijs Leegwater Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gijs Leegwater Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hello, > > >But then I was searching for some DOS GIF viewer, but it seems there isn't > >even a simple program which can display GIF images FAST. Programs > >like LXPIC need seconds(!!) to build the screen!! > > The 80186 class CPU in 200LX is simply weak for graphics use. Have ever played keen4 on the lx?? it can easily render 20 frames/sec > Stefan Peichl (LxPic author) once told me the decoding complexity of various > image formats is proportional to this: > bmp:pcx:gif:jpg 1:5:20:100 Ok, so it takes about one second to decode GIF. > > You just cannot expect subsecond GIF display times on the LX, because there is a > lot of calculating work to do, which takes long on an XT-class CPU. Consider > that LxPic is written in pure assembler and the code has been refined for > several years. There is nothing substantially faster possible on our palmtops. > You have to live with it or buy a Morphy One from Japan.' That is not true. One-second-decoding is OK. But what my problem is, is the building of the image on the screen. Once the file is decoded, the decoded data of the whole GIF must be stored somewhere, so it doesn't have to decode each time i do something with the image. In that case, fast displaying and scrolling should be possible. Now, if i scroll down, it takes seconds to draw from up to down(it decodes again, or does it just use INT calls for drawing??). > > Sincerely: Tamas Feher. > I have now found a new version of the convertor which can also produce bmp tiff and other file types, maybe that will work better. BTW, you can find the programs on: http://www.logipole.com/download_konv_us.htm Bye, Cheiz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:52:42 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gijs Leegwater wrote: > on some japanese site i found some program which converts PDF pages to = GIF > files. It works quite good, it looks exactly as in Acrobat Reader Do you have an URL? I doubt whether the converter will run on the palmtop? > So STUPID!! I already tried all GIF viewers from simtel, > but none is OK. That's why I wrote LXPIC > is it THAT difficult to use direct vid mem access? No, most viewers write to the video memory, including LXPIC. It is not the video memory access time, which hurts, it is the decompression of the picture. > I think im gonna write my own viewer with optimal settigns > for vieweing PDF-GIF files made with the converter... Please go ahead. In the meantime, use LXPIC or any other program to convert the GIF file to a 2-color PCX file, and then view the PCX file with LXPIC on the palmtop. You will be surprised about the speed difference. To convert the GIF to PCX on the palmtop, use LXPIC PDF.GIF/o This will create a black and white PDF.PCX file. Play around with all the different possible settings to get the best black and white representation. I admit, you have to know how to handle LXPIC to get the best out of it in your case. But I think, it's worth the time, rather than reinventing the wheel. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:18:16 +0200 Reply-To: Axel-Berger@Nexgo.De Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: FS: Norton Commander 4.0 German, original disks, manual, box MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Norton Commander version 4.0 > This version of Norton Commander works perfectly on the palmtop. Anything that can do (better) that VC 4.05 can't? Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:34:17 +0200 Reply-To: Axel-Berger@Nexgo.De Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adrian Ho wrote: > broken autoresponders. Yes please. I have told one or two people privately. I find it really silly and somewhat annoying when the robot of someone I don't know and have never conversed with tells me he is out of office in reply to a listmail of mine. I couldn't care less and would prefer not to have my box cluttered. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:55:06 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe it is an idea for those people who want to use an autoresponder for their main account to set up a separate account for the list, like I did. There are lots of places where you can get a free email. Besides hotmail, which is jammed in no time with a mailinglist, try www.softhome.net (just as example) or any other of your liking. Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver > Adrian Ho wrote: > > broken autoresponders. > > Yes please. I have told one or two people privately. I find it really > silly and somewhat annoying when the robot of someone I don't know and > have never conversed with tells me he is out of office in reply to a > listmail of mine. I couldn't care less and would prefer not to have my > box cluttered. > > Axel > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:03:23 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: MMC (Multi Media Card) Comments: cc: daniel.hertrich@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As reported in an earlier message, my MMC card works in the HP. Here are the data for Daniel's overview page. ___Brand EMTEC (I guess this is only the reseller) ___Capacitiy 32MB ___Form factor MMC =3D Multi Media Card (poststamp size) ___Model AA0010JC TAIWAN (written on the backside) ___Palmtop model HP200LX ___BIOS version ROM BIOS Ver 2.14 (string at adr FFF36 hex in main memory) ___Works with double speed upgrade Yes ___Driver needed No ___Comments A MMC/SD-PCMCIA adapter is needed. LXCIC reports: PCMCIA ADAPTER So the adapter is recognized by LXCIC rather than the card, which explains, why the adapter is not cheap (~$40 on ebay). It seems to have the controller built in. The card powers down by itself, as reported by LXCIC. I had no success with a SD (Secure Digital) card, which has the same form factor as the MMC. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:40:02 -0400 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Gijs Leegwater wrote: > But then I was searching > for some DOS GIF viewer, but it seems there isnt even a simple program which > can display GIF images FAST. Programs like LXPIC need seconds(!!) to build > the screen!! Because PDF's are quite big it it absolutely needed to scroll > fast. Then i thought i found the ideal program: Graphics WorkShop. It > included some BMP examples and the scrolling was very fast. But when I tried > to open the GIF files, it asked for a conversion filter because of the > multiple colors and it takes MINUTES to convert it(for each page)!! > I think im gonna write my > own viewer with optimal settigns for vieweing PDF-GIF files made with the > converter... Cheiz, I think that you will find it difficult to beat LXPIC for speed of displaying GIF files or scrolling through them. I wrote a GIF viewer of my own. And then tried to optimize it for display speed. It comes close (at times) to LXPIC, but it is still noticeably slower most of the time. If the files are small enough, you could decode the whole thing to a memory buffer to speed scrolling. But that will cause problems when you have large buffers to maintain. And it will slow the initial image display. In LXPIC you could see if turning off dithering helps any. Good luck Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 07:48:44 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: List settings (was: Fluff: too stupid for listserver...) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > 51m ago Michael L. wrote: > > > So it should be clear, that the the > > repy-to-parameter has to contain the list-address. But it doesn't. > > AS said before, Al changed the list server behaviour intentionally to > spoil flame wars. Daniel is correct about the desire to mute flame wars, but I think the change was also an attempt to reduce off topic posts or fluffy chatter. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:01:44 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: List settings (was: Fluff: too stupid for listserver...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ehm, maybe I'm too stupid for the listserver as well but how come that this 'new' setting prevents fluff, off-topic stuff or flames? The autoresponse-idea does makes sense, but i don't understand this statement Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theodore Heise" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: List settings (was: Fluff: too stupid for listserver...) > On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > > 51m ago Michael L. wrote: > > > > > So it should be clear, that the the > > > repy-to-parameter has to contain the list-address. But it doesn't. > > > > AS said before, Al changed the list server behaviour intentionally to > > spoil flame wars. > > Daniel is correct about the desire to mute flame wars, but I think > the change was also an attempt to reduce off topic posts or fluffy > chatter. > > -- > Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:28:53 -0400 Reply-To: Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All: I am willing to change the line limit on posts if there is a consensus to do so. Please send me your suggestions, and I will acquiesce to the majority. Cheers...Al Kind Microchemistry Lab & Proteomics Ctr, University of CT 3113 Horsebarn Rd, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA ph:(860)486-6126 eFAX:(413)826-8780 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 07:32:57 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: List settings (was: Fluff: too stupid for listserver...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Before, it was just too easy to type an OT reply or a flame and hit "send" and the post went to the whole list. It now takes at least a moment of thought before sending a reply to the list. Not much protection, I'll admit, but it does seem to help. -----Original Message----- From: Niels [mailto:hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:02 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: List settings (was: Fluff: too stupid for listserver...) Ehm, maybe I'm too stupid for the listserver as well but how come that this 'new' setting prevents fluff, off-topic stuff or flames? The autoresponse-idea does makes sense, but i don't understand this statement Niels ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:02:55 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer Comments: To: Gijs Leegwater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gijs Leegwater" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 3:54 AM Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer > > The 80186 class CPU in 200LX is simply weak for graphics use. > > Have ever played keen4 on the lx?? it can easily render 20 frames/sec In keen4 is the whole background moving or are there just moving objects on the screen? If the latter, the screen might not be redrawn a lot. The complexity of the image probably makes a difference in drawing speed. I'm not sure how much effect all this would have on the drawing speed but it could be quite a bit. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:14:54 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts Comments: To: Al Kind MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Kind" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:28 AM Subject: ADMIN: Line limits on posts > Hi All: > > I am willing to change the line limit on posts if there is a consensus to do > so. Please send me your suggestions, and I will acquiesce to the majority. I'd like to see the line limit remain as it is. It could even be shorter. I also find the short limit irritating sometimes but that's because I'm long winded and I think without the low limit I'd be irritating instead of irritated. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:28:19 +0000 Reply-To: lloo@ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: lloo@ATT.NET Subject: Re: MMC (Multi Media Card) Thanks for the info Stefan. Given that the 200 is mostly detecting the PCMCIA adapter's controller, it may be instructive to know the exact adapter brand you used since they probably use a variety of different controllers. - Longden > As reported in an earlier message, my MMC card works in the HP. > Here are the data for Daniel's overview page. > > ___Brand > EMTEC (I guess this is only the reseller) > > ___Capacitiy > 32MB .... > ___Comments > A MMC/SD-PCMCIA adapter is needed. > LXCIC reports: PCMCIA ADAPTER > So the adapter is recognized by LXCIC rather than the card, > which explains, why the adapter is not cheap (~$40 on ebay). > It seems to have the controller built in. > The card powers down by itself, as reported by LXCIC. > I had no success with a SD (Secure Digital) card, which has > the same form factor as the MMC. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:43:03 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pretty simple graphics, i thougt 320x200 (on the palmtop, in cga off course, thus a 16k page size). As I remember from long ago, no real background, only objects. These are all sprites which are stored in memory, so drawing them goes pretty quick. Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gijs Leegwater" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 3:54 AM > Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer > > > > > The 80186 class CPU in 200LX is simply weak for graphics use. > > > > Have ever played keen4 on the lx?? it can easily render 20 > frames/sec > > In keen4 is the whole background moving or are there just moving > objects on the screen? If the latter, the screen might not be > redrawn a lot. > > The complexity of the image probably makes a difference in drawing > speed. > > I'm not sure how much effect all this would have on the drawing > speed but it could be quite a bit. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:20:27 -0400 Reply-To: John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Basic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Barry, >The nice thing about Basm is that it's assembly output is the >entire program. Including everything that would normally be in >libraries. So there's no runtime. There's also a 286 version that >outputs 286 code and it works fine on the LX too. I've worked with many odd forms of interpreted BASIC in the past, so the oddest forms don't bother me in the least bit. In fact, I kind of enjoy the challenge of working around the limitations of the more primitive forms of BASIC. I've been looking for a form of BASIC and compiler that can compile code very tightly like ASIC. Does Basm allow multi-dimensional arrays such as A$(10,20)? I had heard that ASIC offered very tight code, so I downloaded a copy and checked it out a long time ago. From what I remember, it didn't allow multi dimensioned arrays, and that's something I really needed for a financial program I wanted to write and compile to run in DOS on my HP200LX. If the version of Basm for a 286 can handle multi dimensional arrays, it just might work for my purposes. Is it shareware? Do you know where I might be able to find the 286 version of Basm? Thanks in advance, Barry. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:41:44 +0200 Reply-To: Gijs Leegwater Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gijs Leegwater Subject: Hi - GIF viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > In keen4 is the whole background moving or are there just moving > objects on the screen? If the latter, the screen might not be > redrawn a lot. Keen4 HAS a background, it's 4 colors, it's even animating (trees open and close eyes), it's full screen, it's also moving(so the screen is not just objects and a static backgorund). The screen moves along with the player. Also there are many sprites like monsters animating items etc etc. A screenshot of keen4 can be found at: http://members.lycos.nl/thekidsweb/games/keen4.gif Of course, on the palmtop it's CGA, not EGA, but beside the colors, everything is the same. Do not underestimate the power of a 8 MHz!! With 24 frames/sec, one frame may take 0.33 MHz, that is 330KHz. A CGA screen is 640*200/8=16KB, so one byte copy may take about 20 clockticks. With memory copy that can me done. Of course, keen has to calculate the sprite positions etc so the framerate is a bit lower than 24. But it isn't lower than on PC! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:43:28 +0200 Reply-To: Gijs Leegwater Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gijs Leegwater Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But it isn't lower than on PC! I mean, it isn't lower than playing keen4 on a desktop PC keen has just very low system requirements. -Cheiz > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:30:56 -0400 Reply-To: John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Cheiz, >I'm back on the list(i think). I don't exactly know why i was removed, but i >think it was my mailbox was full for quite a time (i was getting those >irritating viruses all the time, i get them about 10 times a day)... > >I have a little question. I was searching for a way to view PDF files on the >200lx. The dos version of acrobat reader needs 386+ so that didn't work. But >on some japanese site i found some program which converts PDF pages to GIF >files. It works quite good, it looks exactly as in Acrobat Reader (including >all the anti-aliasing things)... Is it public domain, freeware or shareware? If you don't remember where you found it, I would really appreciate it if you would send me a copy of it as a single file attachment to a private email to: j_vanderstel@juno.com If that DOS utility can run on a LX, it sounds like it may actually be what many on this list have been searching for for quite some time. :-) It might already be on SUPER, but If you are interested in and can't find a LX compatible DOS utility that can strip an HTML document of all tags to offer a plain text version, I could reply to your private email with a copy of that "stripper" utility as an attachment. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:13:42 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whoops! in my previous post I was mistaken by another version of keen.. likely an earlier version.. this one looks better. excusez moi Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gijs Leegwater" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:41 PM Subject: Hi - GIF viewer > > In keen4 is the whole background moving or are there just moving > > objects on the screen? If the latter, the screen might not be > > redrawn a lot. > > Keen4 HAS a background, it's 4 colors, it's even animating (trees open and > close eyes), it's full screen, it's also moving(so the screen is not just > objects and a static backgorund). The screen moves along with the player. > Also there are many sprites like monsters animating items etc etc. > > A screenshot of keen4 can be found at: > > http://members.lycos.nl/thekidsweb/games/keen4.gif > > Of course, on the palmtop it's CGA, not EGA, but beside the colors, > everything is the same. Do not underestimate the power of a 8 MHz!! With 24 > frames/sec, one frame may take 0.33 MHz, that is 330KHz. A CGA screen is > 640*200/8=16KB, so one byte copy may take about 20 clockticks. With memory > copy that can me done. Of course, keen has to calculate the sprite positions > etc so the framerate is a bit lower than 24. But it isn't lower than on PC! > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:27:17 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "John J Vanderstel" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Basic > If the version of Basm for a 286 can handle multi dimensional arrays, it > just might work for my purposes. Is it shareware? Do you know where I > might be able to find the 286 version of Basm? I have the latest version - 6.5. It doesn't handle multi-dimensional arrays. If you want it send me a personal email and I'll attach it to the reply. It's about 85k. I did a google search for it and their site seems to be down except for a page saying they're down. Every other site seems to link to their site instead of having it onsite. If you decide you're interested after you look it over let me know. I have some add-ons for it that I can send and also it's source code in PowerBasic. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:11:01 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Text convertion question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I am trying to convert outlines among different formats, including DOS and HPLX outlines. I am using the MindManager program, which exports outlines to RTF format, a well as ascii. The problem I have found is that the ascii file has no indents, and when using Word or Wordperfect to try to convert the RTF file to ascii, the indents are lost. I need to find a means or a program which will convert the indent codes to left tabs. The reason for this is that almost every program I have tested in different platforms (including Palm, DOS, and Windows) will accept outlines indented with the left tab code, and will convert the outlines correctly. MindManager will accept this, but will not export with this code, for some reason. Word allows me to substitute many codes, but not this one. Worperfect will display the hidden codes, but it doesn't help to see the codes if I cannot automatically replace them. Any help appreciated. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:38:13 -0500 Reply-To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: Re: Text convertion question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Domingo, I use FED for this type of editing. http://www.simtel.net/pub/pd/41253.html Good luck! Tom > I need to find a > means or a program which will convert the indent codes to left tabs. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:09:07 +0200 Reply-To: Zoran Vignjevic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Zoran Vignjevic Subject: Re: Basic Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John J Vanderstel wrote: > > > the challenge of working around the limitations of the more primitive > forms of BASIC. > > I've been looking for a form of BASIC and compiler that can compile code > very tightly like ASIC. > > Does Basm allow multi-dimensional arrays such as A$(10,20)? From what I remember, it didn't allow multi > dimensioned arrays, and that's something I really needed for a financial > program I wanted to write and compile to run in DOS on my HP200LX. > What's wrong with transforming A$(Xmax,Ymax)=>B$(Xmax*Ymax) (onedimensional) (Xmax,Ymax)=>(y-1)*Xmax+x Regards, Zoran ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:17:37 +0200 Reply-To: Zoran Vignjevic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Zoran Vignjevic Subject: Re: Basic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, second transformation should be (x,y)=>(y-1)*Xmax+x Zoran Vignjevic wrote: > > John J Vanderstel wrote: > > > > > > the challenge of working around the limitations of the more primitive > > forms of BASIC. > > > > I've been looking for a form of BASIC and compiler that can compile code > > very tightly like ASIC. > > > > Does Basm allow multi-dimensional arrays such as A$(10,20)? > From what I remember, it didn't allow multi > > dimensioned arrays, and that's something I really needed for a financial > > program I wanted to write and compile to run in DOS on my HP200LX. > > > > What's wrong with transforming > A$(Xmax,Ymax)=>B$(Xmax*Ymax) (onedimensional) > (Xmax,Ymax)=>(y-1)*Xmax+x > > Regards, > Zoran > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- Regards, Zoranv http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=10099 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/5906/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:27:37 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: List settings (was: Fluff: too stupid for listserver...) Comments: To: Theodore Heise In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Ted, and list, At 9/10/02 07:48 AM, you wrote: >Daniel is correct about the desire to mute flame wars, but I think >the change was also an attempt to reduce off topic posts or fluffy >chatter. I believe that is what Al explained at the time. The change took any reply off the list. Problem is that many valuable posts were sent only to one person, not the full list. (Sure, it also saved additional flames, I know...) It is easy to circumvent the list behaviour by changing the addressee. But it requires the engagement of the brain - at least momentarily. Maybe, just maybe, the brief engagement also cooled off a hot response (I know it happened like this for me.) Still, I would like to see the bahaviour lifted and changed so replies go to the whole list, not the original poster. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:33:05 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts Comments: To: Al Kind In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi Al, As a notorious long-winded poster, the limit irritates me. BUT - I support the limit, it is good, leave it alone. Avi At 9/10/02 08:28 AM, Al Kind wrote: >Hi All: > >I am willing to change the line limit on posts if there is a consensus to do >so. Please send me your suggestions, and I will acquiesce to the majority. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:30:42 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: List settings (was: Fluff: too stupid for listserver...) Comments: To: Niels In-Reply-To: <018901c258ca$3a580400$060210ac@tommy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed It does not prevet the initial post, but replies to it are sent only to the poster, not the entire list. This results in lower number of posts sent to everyone. I am not sure it has anything to do with autoresponder really. Avi At 9/10/02 08:01 AM, you wrote: >Ehm, maybe I'm too stupid for the listserver as well >but how come that this 'new' setting prevents fluff, off-topic stuff or >flames? >The autoresponse-idea does makes sense, but i don't understand this >statement ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:04:30 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: List settings (was: Fluff: too stupid for listserver...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit anyway, for me it's okay this way.. hit reply all, delete the original sender I personally don't have problems when people sent it to me as well. I prefer it that way, because it's then much easier to see if someone has responded to me, for there are no spaces in front of the Re:... as with posts to the list. It now looks like this: (sender) Re: mail to list (date etc) (sender) Re: mail to me (date etc) very handy imho. Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avi Meshar" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:27 PM Subject: Re: List settings (was: Fluff: too stupid for listserver...) > Ted, and list, > > At 9/10/02 07:48 AM, you wrote: > >Daniel is correct about the desire to mute flame wars, but I think > >the change was also an attempt to reduce off topic posts or fluffy > >chatter. > > I believe that is what Al explained at the time. The change took any reply > off the list. Problem is that many valuable posts were sent only to one > person, not the full list. (Sure, it also saved additional flames, I know...) > > It is easy to circumvent the list behaviour by changing the addressee. But > it requires the engagement of the brain - at least momentarily. Maybe, just > maybe, the brief engagement also cooled off a hot response (I know it > happened like this for me.) > > Still, I would like to see the bahaviour lifted and changed so replies go > to the whole list, not the original poster. > > Avi > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:24:57 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Ericsson T39 and www/lx - experiences In-Reply-To: <3D774C24.B793831B@gov.yu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 5 days 09h49m ago Zoran Vignjevic wrote: > Tony Hutchins wrote: > > > Probably the "S" in "FCS" stands for "sum". > > Maybe this? > FCS (FRAME CHECK SEQUENCE) is a checksum used for error detection. Thats the one! Thanks - I saved it to posttips.txt :) -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:35:36 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Text convertion question Comments: To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, the biggest complication I can handle is that offered by Wordperfect's display codes mode. FED's display looks powerful, but it makes no sense to me. I am a lowly non-programmer. :-) Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Salwasser" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Text convertion question > Hi Domingo, > > I use FED for this type of editing. > http://www.simtel.net/pub/pd/41253.html > > Good luck! > Tom > > > I need to find a > > means or a program which will convert the indent codes to left > tabs. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:43:58 +0800 Reply-To: Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: List settings (was: Fluff: too stupid for listserver...) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020910162836.03f54ec0@mail.alwaysafe.com>; from hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM on Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 04:30:42PM -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 04:30:42PM -0500, Avi Meshar wrote: > I am not sure it has anything to do with autoresponder > really. I brought up the autoresponder issue because: [a] autoresponders are generally dumber than humans 8-) [b] if a Reply-To header exists, all autoresponders I know respond to that address [c] if an autoresponder does not implement limits properly, or does not check incoming messages properly, it would potentially respond to /every/ incoming message If [c] happens on a Reply-To-List mailing list, the results are predictably unamusing. To be a little more graphic: The most extreme example I personally witnessed was on a mailing list whose digest version was also set to Reply-To-List. One digest-version subscriber went on vacation and turned on an autoresponder that quoted the entire original message back to whoever it was responding to (presumably to provide the context for said autoresponse). The result: 200+MB of quoted-ad-infinitum mail dumped down /each/ subscriber's mbox before the list owner noticed the problem. The anguished on-list screams of the afflicted subscribers, of course, merely added fuel to the flames. (I was more fortunate in that I run my own mail server and had plenty of spool space to spare when the tsunami hit.) Needless to say, Reply-To-List was immediately turned off...and stayed off (possibly to this day, though I unsub'd long enough ago that I can't remember which list it was). The list owner, though, had plenty to curse about, as he had to clean up /both/ his outgoing mail spool and the archives. - Adrian ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:21:45 -0500 Reply-To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: Re: Text convertion question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Domingo, I know fed's interface may seem confusing but it's not bad if you dig into it a bit. Maybe this will help. Make sure fed is in your path or in the directory you're working in. 1) Type fed xxx, where xxx is your file name. 2) F1 any time for help. 3) F3 enter hex edit mode 4) Alt-F6 enter hex locate-replace mode 5) Enter hex value to find (This is the hex value of the string you want to change) 6) Enter the hex value to replace string from 5 above. A tab is hex 09. 7) F7 Find and replace next occurence. Repeat until they're all cleaned up. The hex value to enter in step 5 can be determined by using fed in browse mode to look at your file. Give it a shot, you can do this! Regards, Tom ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:58:08 -0500 Reply-To: Curtis Cameron Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Cameron Organization: None Subject: Re: Fluff: Open Office In-Reply-To: <894656320@smtp.yeos.com.my> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I installed OpenOffice, the latest version from openoffice.org, and chose to install all the options. However, all that's there is the "Draw" program - no word processor, no spreadsheet, no presentation package. There is only the icon for Draw in my Start menu, there are no icons on the desktop, and there is only the Draw program in the directory where I installed the files. The installation program didn't complain about anything at all when it ran. I did it again, but still the same results. Is this normal? Is M$ somehow interfering with OpenOffice? -- Curtis Cameron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:25:27 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Al 16h44m ago Al Kind wrote: > I am willing to change the line limit on posts if there is a consensus = to do > so. Please send me your suggestions, and I will acquiesce to the = majority. I also think that the limit should stay as it is. It lowers the chance that someone has success sending an ASCII+HTML message to the list, and if you really need to write a message which exceeds the limit, it is no problem to split it up manually. It takes so much time to write more than 100 lines of useful stuff, that the time needed for splitting it up is not too significant, I think. Almost every editor shows the line numbers while writing the message, so simply keep the "100" in mind and remember to stop at line 100. And it makes you think twice about too much quoting. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:10:14 +0200 Reply-To: Matthias Paul Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Matthias Paul Organization: Aachen University of Technology (RWTH), Germany Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2002-09-10, Albert Kind wrote: > I am willing to change the line limit on posts if there is > a consensus to do so. Please send me your suggestions, and > I will acquiesce to the majority. I am often longwinded as well. In my understanding electronic forums like mailing lists or newsgroups serve a purpose beyond just the daily business and answers to one's immediate questions. Over the years they help to build up a valuable knowledge base. Therefore I usually try to give comprehensive background information where I can, so that future readers may be able to make sense of an article as well. Further, English is not my mother tongue, so I often add extra redundancy to get the message straight. To block attachments or larger malware/SPAM, I am pro-limit, but IMHO the limit should not count in the variable-lengthened header (as it does right now) and it should become somewhat relaxed. 10 - 15 Kb worth ASCII text would be reasonable for more complete articles, I think. This would be equivalent to ca. 250 - 300 lines. In case you can set up filters for it, I would also opt to completely reject HTML and TOFU (top post & full quote) posts. These are bad habits IMO, and, I think, are the main reasons for bandwidth wastage. It is a good idea to avoid them, anyway - and easy to achieve. Many users have set up client-sided filters to move HTML mails into the trash folder, anyway, and many admins block them for security reasons. Users of classical text mode mailers or slow machines would probably be grateful for this, as well. Finally, I would prefer to see the Reply-To entries changed to point to the list rather than the original poster. It's more convenient to use in most mail clients and more conformant with most other mailing lists. It would also help to not get replies to one's posts twice - over the list and in private mail... Flame wars are very rare in almost all forums I frequent, and it is a good idea to not participate in them, anyway. Flamers just disqualify themselves... I understand, however, that you have had good reasons to come to the current settings, and as a newcomer in this forum, I am definitely not authorative to strong opinions here. So, I will adapt to what the majority prefers. Greetings, Matthias --=20 ; http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html; http://mpaul.drdos.org "Programs are poems for computers." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:17:33 +0200 Reply-To: Gijs Leegwater Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gijs Leegwater Subject: convertor website MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is the URL of the pdf convertor again: http://www.logipole.com it's somewhere in the download section (you don't have to download the whole Konvertor it's also possible to only download pdf2gif and pdf2xxx -Cheiz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:22:15 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: MMC (Multi Media Card), MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lloo@ATT.NET wrote: > Given that the 200 is mostly detecting the PCMCIA > adapter's controller, it may be instructive to know the > exact adapter brand you used since they probably use a > variety of different controllers. Unfortunately it seems to be a noname product. It has a sticker from the reseller (extrememory) on the front side, and on the backside is written: "Tested to comply with FCC standards for home or office use". Also LXCIC only reports "PCMCIA ADAPTER". It's anyway hard to find these adapters. Lately I saw one from Sandisk in a shop for ~80 EURO (=3D$). But I payed only 40 EURO on ebay for the noname product. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:22:16 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gijs Leegwater wrote: > Have ever played keen4 on the lx?? it can easily render 20 frames/sec Another good example is the palmtop video player EVA. It plays converted AVI videos in realtime with sound on the palmtop. But these programs use optimized data for the target machine. You cannot compare them with picture viewers which get color information from various compression schemes not optimized for a specific video memory. Note: every screen mode (CGA,EGA,VGA,VESA) uses completely different video memory organization. The palmtop specific ICN picture format is comparable with the above mentioned programs. It is an uncompressed black and white pixelmap, which can be copied to the video memory. LXPIC can play videos in ICN format (a series of ICN pictures). There is no speed problem. But GIF or JPG is a completely different story. > But what my problem is, is the building of the > image on the screen. Once the file is decoded, the decoded data of the = whole > GIF must be stored somewhere, so it doesn't have to decode each time i = do > something with the image. In that case, fast displaying and scrolling = should > be possible. Now, if i scroll down, it takes seconds to draw from up to > down(it decodes again, or does it just use INT calls for drawing??). Because you say you need scrolling, I assume the picture is bigger than 640x200 pixel. A typical GIF converted PDF page has probably a size of 1280x1024 pixel. In 256 color GIF, every pixel is coded in one byte, which is an index into a color palette holding the red/green/blue byte values for this pixel. That means, an uncompressed 1280x1024 GIF files requires a buffer of 1280x1024=3D1310720 bytes =3D 1.25 Megabytes. And then you only have the decompressed data available, which are not the data needed to be written in the video memory, because they depend on the selected video mode. On todays VESA PCs, every pixel takes 32bit in video memory, that is, you need a buffer with 4 bytes for every pixel, if you want to have your data ready for fast output. In our case of a 1280x1024 pixel image, the buffer must have a size of 5 MB. But on the palmtop we have at most 0.64 MB, and if you have SysMgr running in the background, you may only have 64KB left, and LXPIC is still running. That's the point. IrfanView on the desktop shows you in its status line the used memory for the required display buffer. Indeed, if you have the buffer, you only have to decode and convert the picture once, and scrolling is as fast as possible, but we don't have the required memory on the palmtop. And if you always decode the complete image to a buffer, you depend on the image dimensions. Just for fun I once created a 10000x10000 pixel JPG image. LXPIC started immediately to display it within 64KB. IrfanView needed a 286MB buffer, which I don't have on my PC, so it started to swap to the disk. I could get a coffee until the first pixel appeared on the screen with IrfanView, and scrolling was no longer fast on this Pentium PC. I hope you see the difference between the two concepts. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:34:07 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: CPACK on Linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stephan 6 days 02h23m ago Stephan Goeldi wrote: > Can anybody point me into the right direction for running CPACK200 = under > Linux? There are DOSEMU and WINE. One of them may enable me to run = CPACK200. Would VMWare be an option for you? There it would probably no problem at all running CPack. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:45:54 -0400 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: S Carder Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts Comments: To: Al Kind MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I am willing to change the line limit on posts if there is a consensus = to do > so. Please send me your suggestions, and I will acquiesce to the = majority. I have never had trouble with the line limit. I guess I am not that = verbose . I do all my E-mail on my 200LX with Post/LX. I have Post set to download headers only for anything over a short E-mail. If I want that E-mail, I = have to make another online run and the long E-mail is appended onto the end = of that inbox. So, for me, allowing longer posts would mean some messages from = the list (ie the long ones) not being downloaded in order. I vote no to longer posts. Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:08:31 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Peichl" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:22 AM Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer > That means, an uncompressed 1280x1024 GIF files > requires a buffer of 1280x1024=1310720 bytes = 1.25 > Megabytes. > > [stuff deleted] > > But on the palmtop we have at most 0.64 MB, and if > you have SysMgr running in the background, you may > only have 64KB left, and LXPIC is still running. That's > the point. I'm not sure how GIFs are organized. I've only used PCX or uncompressed bitmaps in my own programs. But isn't it possible to convert from GIF to a simple CGA bitmap while uncompressing? That way a 1280x1024 picture would only need a 163k buffer in graphics mode 6. That's still a pretty big buffer on a 640k system but not unmanageble and it is a very big picture. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:18:18 -0400 Reply-To: Sales@Systems-Consulting.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Paul Anderson@Systems-Consulting" Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts In-Reply-To: <200209111145.HAA16746@siaar2aa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that it is most appropriate to limit the length of massages. This should be based on the idea that there are enough users/members that process email on their LX computer and this makes long messages more of a burden. Let's plan the list rules around those that are using their LXs to do their work. Thanks, Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:32:28 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do not have any problems with the list length Greetz, Niels ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:29:50 -0500 Reply-To: Tim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: CF Memory Card Access Problems... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm fixed an error I'm not accustomed to seeing and am wondering if something is going bad. "All of the sudden" (Translation: I can't remember doing anything ), I couldn't access my CF card as drive A: on the LX. DOS said it couldn't see the drive; so I attempted to format it and got: Format not supported on drive A: Format terminated. I *CAN* see the "disk" and its contents on a WinXP machine, when I put it into an external, USB card reader on a PC. I copied the data to my HDD and reformatted it, ensuring I picked FAT and not FAT32 (this is a WinXP pro machine that seems to want to default to FAT32 on this). STILL couldn't see the drive on the LX (same "drive not ready ... Abort, Retry, Fail..." error), but this time the format was supported. Once I formatted it w/ the LX and copied the files back to it on the PC, all was fine. Could the card be going bad? I could _always_ "see" it on the PC. Or, could something be going wrong w/ the LX? I'm using my backup LX (unmodified 4MB 200LX) and it's never shown any troubles before. The CF Card is a Lexar Media 80 MB "4X" (slightly old, used to be one of my main cards for a digital camera). The LX can "see" other CF cards, using the same CF adapter (the PC can see them too and I'm not sure what went wrong.... TIA for any insight. --tim Tim Raymond ------------------------------------------- "There's always a way to do it better.... Find it!" T.A. Edison ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:38:35 -0300 Reply-To: Carlos Izzo Videla Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Carlos Izzo Videla Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello: I'm a new subcriber to this list, which BTW is also my very *first* list. ;= -) I agree that it would be appropriate to limit the length of messages, very = long messages can be a hassle sometimes. For me, a 100 line limit seems to be fine. You just have to work a bit harder when you reply so as not to exceed that = limit. Thanks to all, Carlos Izzo Videla ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:40:22 -0400 Reply-To: "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Keep line limit short. Eliminate HTML entirely, if possible. If somebody needs the extra formatting or length to make their point clear, it might be best to create a web page and just supply a pointer to it. Alan Striegel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:54:52 +0200 Reply-To: Vagner Martin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Vagner Martin Subject: 40 MHz X-TALs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everybody Is there anyone able to modify the 32MHz driver for 40MHz ? I am already selling 32MHz SMD X-TALs, and i also have 40MHz X-TALs also = in SMD package, if you want one(or two) just tell me. The X-TALs are used, but tested in HP! Regards Martin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:32:02 +0200 Reply-To: "ganwer402@gmx.net" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Wagner Subject: Re: Fluff: CE Office software - was: Re: Basic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, can't imagine? I do it every time ... but unfortunately nobody believes me! *ggg* > I can't imagine a software company developing a product and then saying that > it wasn't as good as the one that was already on the market. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:43:40 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Basic In-Reply-To: <001101c25821$4476da00$0301a8c0@Herkules> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Paul Wagner wrote: > see www.softmaker.de, a german company developing an office-suite, > which is also available for CE. Haven't tested it, but they say it's > superior to M$. Well, I don't know if it's superior to real Microsoft Office, but from what I've tried of the beta version, it's certainly vastly superior to Pocket Office. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:52:53 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: ASTROLOG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- I only just came across this site: http://www.astrolog.org/astrolog.htm AST54DOS.ZIP (Dec 1998) contains a really amazingly featured free astrology program called astrolog that runs on our palmtops. The source code is available too - helped me solve a conundrum with my CLOCKS :) These words from the readme always bring joy to the hearts of all palmtoppers: -------- Astrolog system requirements: For PC's, 640K of RAM and a reasonably recent version of DOS. A math co-processor chip is recommended for best performance but not required. Astrolog can take advantage of Ansi text, CGA, EGA, VGA, and SVGA graphics but they are not required. The program will run on 8088 AT and XT systems and higher x86 processors. The DOS version of Astrolog may be run from MS Windows in a DOS box. ------ -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:55:11 -0700 Reply-To: Willnotreply GMX Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Willnotreply GMX Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For what it's worth, I have the same thought and have written a simple minded program that loads bi-level PCX image into RAM for fast scroll. One additional feature is that it can split the screen into multiple stripes simulating a 1280 x 100 screen or a 2560 x 50 screen so that one can scroll a wide image just up and down without needing to also pan left and right. The URL is: http://www.geocities.com/alfred1520/#pcxviewer An example of the split screen in shown. Alfred Lee -----Original Message----- From: Gijs Leegwater To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Date: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:48 AM Subject: Hi - GIF viewer >Hi guys, > >I'm back on the list(i think). I don't exactly know why i was removed, but i >think it was my mailbox was full for quite a time (i was getting those >irritating viruses all the time, i get them about 10 times a day)... > >I have a little question. I was searching for a way to view PDF files on the >200lx. The dos version of acrobat reader needs 386+ so that didn't work. But >on some japanese site i found some program which converts PDF pages to GIF >files. It works quite good, it looks exactly as in Acrobat Reader (including >all the anti-aliasing things). So that was great. But then I was searching >for some DOS GIF viewer, but it seems there isnt even a simple program which >can display GIF images FAST. Programs like LXPIC need seconds(!!) to build >the screen!! Because PDF's are quite big it it absolutely needed to scroll >fast. Then i thought i found the ideal program: Graphics WorkShop. It >included some BMP examples and the scrolling was very fast. But when I tried >to open the GIF files, it asked for a conversion filter because of the >multiple colors and it takes MINUTES to convert it(for each page)!! So I >converted a GIF to 2-color with the 2GIF program(cnet). In explorer it >looked fine, but grahpics wroskhop couldnt open it!!! (only gave a beep)!! >So STUPID!! I already tried all GIF viewers from simtel, but none is OK. IT >is THAT difficult to use direct vid mem access? I think im gonna write my >own viewer with optimal settigns for vieweing PDF-GIF files made with the >converter... > >Bye, > >Cheiz > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:59:03 -0700 Reply-To: Willnotreply GMX Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Willnotreply GMX Subject: Co-ordinate from street address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I missed the longitude and latitude used to be provided by www.mapblast.com. They have since removed the feature. However, I have found another map server that still provides longitude and latitude: http://www.multimap.com/ Click on the US flag just below the map of Europe for US address. Alfred Lee ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:57:09 +0200 Reply-To: Michel Bel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michel Bel Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Considering the sometimes extensive fluff message threads, I think the line limit is a good thing. Michel ( who sometimes forgets to switch off the HTML in Outlook ;-( ) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:58:09 +0200 Reply-To: "Michael L." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Michael L." Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, 1. Were the mails in *this* list really so long, that it is necessary to = create listserver-maintained limits?=20 2. How do you count the lines? Some mailers don't wrap lines inserting a = CRLF after a certain number of characters, but after a paragraph. So a li= ne can be 1000 characters long. In this way it is not possible to shorten= messages. 3. HTML: An automatic reject of HTML-mails could mean, that messages of n= ew members of the list *never* can take part in the discussions. How shou= ld they know, that HTML-mails are not welcome? We are not alone in the world. Let the people come to us. The internet is= free. I don't think, we should create artficial limitations to exclude a= nybody or anything.=20 Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz www.lennartz-online.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:06:23 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Re: MMC (Multi Media Card), Comments: cc: Stefan Peichl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Stefan, >Unfortunately it seems to be a noname product. It has a sticker >from the reseller (extrememory) on the front side The website points to COS Memory AG, Vogelsbergstra=DFe 73, 63683 Ortenberg, Tel: 0049-6046-808-0 They sell these converters: "Smart MediaT Karte auf ATA" "MultiMediaCardT & SDT-Card auf ATA" Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:14:26 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: 40 MHz X-TALs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Martin 14h15m ago Vagner Martin wrote: > Is there anyone able to modify the 32MHz driver for 40MHz ? > > I am already selling 32MHz SMD X-TALs, and i also have 40MHz X-TALs = also in SMD package, if you want one(or two) just tell me. > The X-TALs are used, but tested in HP! Eh - the palmtop works with a 40MHz crystal? AFAIK, the CPU is not built for that speed, but only for the default 15.xxx MHZ and indeed for 31.xxx MHz, so 32MHz works, too, with sometimes minor problems. But 40 MHz? Would be good, of course, but I have not seen this yet, so I doubt it. ;-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:35:09 +0100 Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Svagr, Radek" Subject: Re: 40 MHz X-TALs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" I know that there is a driver for 36 Mhz, do you have driver for 40? Or how works the serial port? I suggest to use 64MHz with doublespeed driver and divide serial port speed by 2;-)))) Radek > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List On Behalf Of Vagner Martin > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 6:55 PM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: 40 MHz X-TALs > > Hi everybody > > Is there anyone able to modify the 32MHz driver for 40MHz ? > > I am already selling 32MHz SMD X-TALs, and i also have 40MHz X-TALs also in SMD package, if you want one(or two) just tell me. > The X-TALs are used, but tested in HP! > > Regards > Martin > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:49:05 +0100 Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Svagr, Radek" Subject: Re: 40 MHz X-TALs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" OK. Next time I will read it more carefully, now I see you don't have a driver. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List On Behalf Of "Svagr, Radek" > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:35 AM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: 40 MHz X-TALs > > I know that there is a driver for 36 Mhz, do you have driver for 40? Or how > works the serial port? > > I suggest to use 64MHz with doublespeed driver and divide serial port speed > by 2;-)))) > > > Radek > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: HPLX Mailing List On Behalf Of > Vagner Martin > > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 6:55 PM > > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > > Subject: 40 MHz X-TALs > > > > Hi everybody > > > > Is there anyone able to modify the 32MHz driver for 40MHz ? > > [..] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:07:52 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Michael L." wrote: > How should they know, that HTML-mails are not welcome? Autoresponder? > The internet is free. I don't think, we should create artficial > limitations to exclude anybody or anything. The amount of spam currently ariving in my public Usenet address in spite of extensive filtering by the BBS sysop is such, that it is getting near including me. And I am not alone. The free-for-all for yobos has altready lost my favourite newsgroups too many very valuable contributors. This list is a beacon in the dark, may it remain so. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:53:21 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer, MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barry wrote: > But isn't it possible to > convert from GIF to a simple CGA bitmap while uncompressing? That > way a 1280x1024 picture would only need a 163k buffer in graphics > mode 6. That's still a pretty big buffer on a 640k system but not > unmanageble and it is a very big picture. well, most consumer digital cameras come with 1600x1200 resolution today, which would require a 234k bitmap buffer on the palmtop. Using a CGA bitmap is indeed possible, but then you loose the picture manipulation capabilities, like changing contrast, brightness, gammma, dither...because these features require the original picture data and cannot be performed on a reduced CGA bitmap. Especially pictures with combined text and graphic content (like PDF) need to be manipulated individually on the B&W CGA screen to get an optimized representation on the HP. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:12:30 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: plea for software (LXPOP) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi folks, A few years back, Rod Whitby combined the news and e-mail clients for the LXTCP suite into a single client, LXMTA. There has been interest in using the earlier e-mail client (LXPOP), but it doesn't seem to be available anywhere. Does anyone have an archived copy of LXPOP that they could share? If not, I'll contact Rod and ask him, but I'd rather not do that if we can find it without bothering him. For that matter, I wouldn't mind having a copy of the old news client. I can't remember for sure, but it was probably LXNNTP. Thanks! -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:59:34 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Pocket MFS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 12.09.02 12:14 PM +0200 Hi friends, I just got in inquiry from an LX user who downloaded "Pocket FMS" from SuPER and asks how to register it to get full use. I doN't know, I even have never heard of that program. So, please, if someone knows, please let me know. The contact address on SUPER seems to be invalid, and the company, GOEN Industries, seems to be dead. Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:12:32 -0700 Reply-To: Michael Kopplin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Kopplin Subject: Re: plea for software (LXPOP) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Theodore Heise wrote: > A few years back, Rod Whitby combined the news and e-mail clients > for the LXTCP suite into a single client, LXMTA. There has been > interest in using the earlier e-mail client (LXPOP), but it > doesn't seem to be available anywhere. > > Does anyone have an archived copy of LXPOP that they could share? > I have the following version distributions archived: binaries - 1.0, 1.1, 1.1b4, 1.1b5, 1.2b7, 1.2b8, 2.0, 2.5 source - 1.0, 1.1, 1.1b5, 1.2b4, 1.2b7, 1.2b8, 2.0, 2.5 1.1b5 is the last with lxpop. > For that matter, I wouldn't mind having a copy of the old > news client. I can't remember for sure, but it was probably > LXNNTP. Yes, lxnntp was the news downloading client. It comes in the pre 1.2 distributions. I also have the following versions of PNR, the reader: binaries - 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0 source - 3.0, 3.2, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0 Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:59:59 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Co-ordinate from street address Comments: To: Willnotreply GMX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willnotreply GMX" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:59 PM Subject: Co-ordinate from street address > I missed the longitude and latitude used to be provided by www.mapblast.com. > They have since removed the feature. However, I have found another > map server that still provides longitude and latitude: > > http://www.multimap.com/ I live out in the country west of Houston in a small subdivision miles from anything else. So far every online map has my area totally wrong. Most of the roads aren't on the maps. Many of the roads shown don't exist. And when they do have a road that's really there, it's always in a completely wrong location. And every map has it wrong in different ways. I don't mean I find a few mistakes. I mean that it's just totally wrong. You couldn't use any of these maps to locate my subdivision, let alone my street. If you ask for driving instructions to my address it'll do that fairly well. They're very bad routes and some of the street names are wrong but if you turn where they say it'll get you here. I'd love to find a decent online map. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:03:08 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael L." To: Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 1:58 AM Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts > 3. HTML: An automatic reject of HTML-mails could mean, > that messages of new members of the list *never* can take > part in the discussions. How should they know, that > HTML-mails are not welcome? I wonder if the list might respond to an html post by replying that html posts aren't accepted. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:08:53 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer, Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Peichl" To: Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Hi - GIF viewer, > well, most consumer digital cameras come with 1600x1200 > resolution today, which would require a 234k bitmap buffer > on the palmtop. Using a CGA bitmap is indeed possible, but > then you loose the picture manipulation capabilities, like > changing contrast, brightness, gammma, dither...because > these features require the original picture data and cannot > be performed on a reduced CGA bitmap. That can be dealt with since the original picture is still on disk and can be re-read. This would mean viewing and scrolling would be fast once the picture is loaded but changing contrast, etc. would be slow. If desired a .ini file could be saved for each image so that next time it would load using the same parameters that were set last time. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:24:50 -0700 Reply-To: "COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: Michael L. [mailto:news@MIGARO.DE] <> <<1. Were the mails in *this* list really so long, that it is necessary to create listserver-maintained limits? Occasionally. <<3. HTML: An automatic reject of HTML-mails could mean, that messages of new members of the list *never* can take part in the discussions. How should they know, that HTML-mails are not welcome? It could be noted in the welcome message that is sent to new subscribers. < Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:58:09 +0200 "Michael L." a =E9crit: > 3. HTML: An automatic reject of HTML-mails could mean, that messages > of new members of the list *never* can take part in the discussions. > How should they know, that HTML-mails are not welcome? I don't know about the listserver software used for this list, but I manage several mailing lists with Smartlist, which permits to block HTML messages and sends back a text explaining how to disable the HTML sending for the most common e-mailers (Outlook & Netscape) I have also customized Smartlist to remove automaticaly the HTML part of the multipart/alternative messages (which contains both pure-text and HTML in the same message). Then, I have very few problems about newcomers (who are very common whith the type of lists I manage). Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:09:24 -0600 Reply-To: Julie Miley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Julie Miley Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts; thanks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Even though I use a regular desktop PC for email, I have turned off the HTML, and use only plain text for sending and receiving messages. In addition, I do try to keep my words to a minimum. I think that, since most people on this list use the palmtops for posting, the line limit should stay as it is. BTW, a very heartfelt thank you to this list for the warm welcome and help I got when I made my first post, asking for help. This is a great bunch of people! I'm now just lurking, as I'm learning about the palmtops, and want to learn as much information as I can. I am fascinated with what can be done with the little LX palmtops. Now that I know mine is all right, I'm ready to do some serious exploring with it. Take care, Julie and... Data, the 95LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:30:46 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <<3. HTML: An automatic reject of HTML-mails could mean, that messages of > new members of the list *never* can take part in the discussions. How should > they know, that HTML-mails are not welcome? > > It could be noted in the welcome message that is sent to new subscribers. > it was mentioned in the welcome mail I got, but HTML is still accepted as I noticed when I (oops!) send one. You can, however, set outlook to use plain text messages for certain email adresses. I knew it was possible but I couldn't found it. Now, I've looked again. It's actually pretty simple. Store the list address in the address book. On the first page of the properties of an address you can check for 'Send email using plain text only'. I guess that should work ;) Niels btw, anytime you reply, outlook automattically detects the mail format of the original mail, and uses that format. So, anytime you reply, outlook will use plain text anyway. Well, it works in my case, it might be some obscure setting somewhere, so it might not work for you. Then you should go on your quest trough the deep and dark menus and tabs of the outlook dungeon, to find this delicate and precious option ;) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:27:05 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@alwaysafe.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "hplxmail@alwaysafe.com" Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts; thanks Comments: To: bjm0801@MHO.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Julie,=20 You wrote on Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:09:24 -0600: > =2E=2E=2E I have turned off the HTML, and use only plain=20 > text for sending and receiving messages=2E Excellent! May your actions spread like wildfires all over the Internet! This is such a pervasive problem, and it is annoying and costly=2E Avi -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:28:17 -0600 Reply-To: Getz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Getz Subject: ATA Flash Cards for sale Comments: To: Omnibook Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If anyone needs these ATA Flash Cards they are for sale for 50 cents a Meg Have so many devices with CF that am switching to that format Shipping $1.00 in Padded envelope 2-40meg IBM 40G3176 2-20meg SM9FATA20TIGT 2-10meg Hewlett Packard F1013A 1-20meg Maxtor Mobile Max with driver disk and manual also works in 95lx and 100lx All Work in Omnibook 300-800 and 200lx ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:21:53 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Palmtop.net (hplx.net) down? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I just tried to go to the super site to find that the entire hplx.net rejects any access to port 80. Does anybody know what's wrong? regards, Oliver P.S.: If this is a persistant error: could somebody mail Stefan Peichls LXCIC to me? TIA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:35:11 -0400 Reply-To: Tim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts; thanks In-Reply-To: <004101c25a76$c3fa5980$720a3a40@picard> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thursday 12 September 2002 12:09 pm, Julie Miley wrote: > BTW, a very heartfelt thank you to this list for the > warm welcome and help I got when I made my first post, > asking for help. > I'm now just lurking, as I'm learning ... Keep asking questions(!). Sometimes you can really "accelerate" your learning about what the LX can do, by just asking, "Does anyone know how to....?" The answers usually surprise me. Keep on "LX-ing" .... --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:51:00 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: Palmtop.net (hplx.net) down? In-Reply-To: <004e01c25a8c$34c45ac0$6401a8c0@thispest> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Here it is Thank you. So at least I can check some more "memory cards" that work with the LX. regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:41:23 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: FS: Norton Commander 4.0 German, original disks, manual, box MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Axel 2 days 09h20m ago Axel Berger wrote: > Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > Norton Commander version 4.0 > > This version of Norton Commander works perfectly on the palmtop. > > Anything that can do (better) that VC 4.05 can't? I don't know in detail, but NC can for example be used as a file transfer program if installed on the palmtop and on the PC. I think VC can't do that. It also includes many viewer programs, for 1-2-3 files, graphic files, WordPerfect files and so on. But since I didn't use it very much, I'm no expert. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:41:45 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts; thanks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim wrote: > Keep asking questions(!). Here goes: Sometimes I am where I need to keep it quit. Silencing my HP means <&> (or ) , which is kind of long and not itself totally quiet. I seem to half remember a tool to make that easier. Any hints? Danke Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:59:31 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts; thanks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sure... the build in macro tool :) and LxPro is pretty usefull too btw... the is an on english systems also if you are running some applications you have to press enter or esc after pressing F5. If you are not running any applications, this closes the system settings window so a macro might not be usefull all the time. LxPro, however, is. ctrl+tab, f7 if you are not in the main window, then press 6 until OFF shows op. Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:41 PM Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts; thanks > Tim wrote: > > Keep asking questions(!). > > Here goes: > Sometimes I am where I need to keep it quit. Silencing my HP means > <&> (or ) , > which is kind of long and not itself totally quiet. I seem to half > remember a tool to make that easier. > Any hints? > > Danke > Axel > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:27:25 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts; thanks In-Reply-To: <3D810A19.A44E2746@Nexgo.De> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 40m ago Axel Berger wrote: > Silencing my HP means Stefan's LXPRO is great for this - CTRL+TAB then hit'6' to toggle volume options, including 'OFF' -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:40:08 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: ASTROLOG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tony Hutchins wrote: > AST54DOS.ZIP (Dec 1998) contains a really amazingly featured > free astrology program called astrolog that runs on our Astrology ?? You don't need that program; isn't there a random number generator in the LX calculator that should give equally valid forecasts?! :-) Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:40:12 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 1. Were the mails in *this* list really so long, that it is > necessary to create listserver-maintained limits? I think it was an attempt stop binary posts a couple of years ago. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:40:10 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michel Bel wrote: > Considering the sometimes extensive fluff message threads, I think the line > limit is a good thing. I'd prefer to see such never ending OT threads deleted, not just limited in size. If we have to set a size for OT I suggest 10 lines. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 03:24:00 +0000 Reply-To: timschweikert@earthlink.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Schweikert Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 7 Sep 2002 to 9 Sep 2002 (#2002-297) Bob, In this case, it really is better. I d/l'd the release candidate, thought it was so good that I purchased the full version the next day. TextMaker has headers, footers, tables (real ones with word wrap inside of the cells), rudimentary math, etc. Frankly, Pocket Word is nothing more than a glorified text editor with some font & paragraph formatting. Tim >Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:57:42 -0400 >From: Bob Penick >Subject: Fluff: CE Office software - was: Re: Basic > >Paul, >I can't imagine a software company developing a product and then saying that >it wasn't as good as the one that was already on the market. >bob >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul Wagner" >Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:52 PM >Subject: Re: Basic > > >> see www.softmaker.de, a german company developing an office-suite, which >is >> also available for CE. Haven't tested it, but they say it's superior to >M$. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:56:12 +1000 Reply-To: Al Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Subject: [4sale] HP200LX 1mg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HP200LX 1Mg in good condition any offers? Alain Sydney ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:27:09 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: ASTROLOG In-Reply-To: <200209122240.g8CMe9b02562@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 04h36m ago Russel Brooks wrote: > Astrology ?? You don't need that program; I know but it is so well programmed, and documented. It even does 640*200 and 320*200 graphics on the palmtop. Shows the world, plus all the constellations. It has everything - including over 100 Arabic Parts - I see some are for predicting grain futures!! > isn't there a random number generator in the LX calculator > that should give equally valid forecasts?! :-) Maybe in Lotus, but I usually just "Think of a number". Hmm maybe that's where the famous "42" came from - yup the "original question" may have been a computer command ;-) -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:10:37 -0700 Reply-To: freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: PAF Installation In-Reply-To: <200209130402.g8D427v47798@trex.uia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Can somebody advise me the simplest way to install/setup PAF 2.xx on my 200LX? I have an original PAF install disk and it appears there are a myriad of files on this booger, possibly it is meant for Win3x OR Dos, I don't know.. I don't want to do the initial "unpacking" of this thing on my desktop for fear it will corrupt my PAF5 registry settings. Anybody out there has done this? Tommy ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 03:56:20 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: FS: Norton Commander 4.0 German, original disks, manual, box MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dunno abt vc .. 1. nc can act as a terminal too 2. does comparing of files in the two panes (by comparing filenam.xtn date time ONLY not contents) 3. launches programs just by moving cursor to the .com or .exe file (point and shoot) 4. has an excellent in built simple editor (F4 button) 5. supports file trf thru designated serial and also 6. designated parallel port (desktop to desktop) hi speeds of transfer .. upto 115kbps 7. sits on top of dos .. almost replacing it .. if you turn off the top menu bar .. the bottom function keys bar and the panels .. you are left only with the dos prompt .. pressing control 'O' brings back panels .. and you can point and hit enter again 8. is rock sturdy (norton does what M$ 'forgets') 9. allows a 'tree' view ..very useful for navigating to a many layer deep sub-directory 10. loads win3.xx and comes back to where it was after you exit from win3.xx 11. copies entire subdirectory trees 12. 'moves' entire trees 13. 'deletes' entire trees 14. show hidden files 15. renames sub-directories easily 16. supports mouse for using nc 17. has two sizes of panel lengths 18. works thru IR for file trf (where IR port is ComN, N being 1,2,3 or 4) 19. needs only 3 wires Rx, Tx, Gnd to transfer over looooong distances 20. is highly configurable (over write all files/older files, choose/don't choose sub-dirs, etc) 21. has repeat the previous command capability (Ctrl-E .. like WS) 22. has all its supporting programs (dbview, ncedit, etc) available as stand alones too but for palmtop .. i use NC3 .. much smaller and for desktop .. i use NC4.5 .. much more features and for win9x .. i use Windows Commander (free/sharware) there is a similar program made by my younger school friends .. has FOUR panes instead of TWO of NCx.xx but that's another story ..pk ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Hertrich To: Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:11 AM Subject: Re: FS: Norton Commander 4.0 German, original disks, manual, box Hi Axel 2 days 09h20m ago Axel Berger wrote: > Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > Norton Commander version 4.0 > > This version of Norton Commander works perfectly on the palmtop. > > Anything that can do (better) that VC 4.05 can't? I don't know in detail, but NC can for example be used as a file transfer program if installed on the palmtop and on the PC. I think VC can't do that. It also includes many viewer programs, for 1-2-3 files, graphic files, WordPerfect files and so on. But since I didn't use it very much, I'm no expert. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:52:36 -0700 Reply-To: jasher@ix.netcom.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Jeffrey W. Asher" Subject: Does Curtis Cameron's Outlook to HP LX 3.03 Converter Work with Outlook 2000? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020912220353.0311bec0@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I use it I am not able to export calendar items from Outlook to the HP. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:02:22 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: FS: Norton Commander 4.0 German, original disks, manual, box MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pksharma wrote: > 1. nc can act as a terminal too > 6. designated parallel port (desktop to desktop) > hi speeds of transfer .. upto 115kbps Thanks for the info. Those two are the one I noticed that VC does not do, but I'll stick to it all the same. And for all those who use neither: VC is most highly recommended. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:36:01 +1200 Reply-To: Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: PAF Installation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tommy wrote: >Can somebody advise me the simplest way to install/setup PAF 2.xx on my >200LX? I have an original PAF install disk and it appears there are a >myriad of files on this booger, possibly it is meant for Win3x OR Dos, I >don't know.. I don't want to do the initial "unpacking" of this thing on >my desktop for fear it will corrupt my PAF5 registry settings. Anybody out >there has done this? Tommy Most of those files are printer drivers which you probably don't care about on the LX, or printable genealogy forms, which you probably also don't care about. I doubt that unpacking the thing on a PC will bother Windows, since PAF 2.xx was a DOS-only product and won't have heard of registries. It was certainly the way I did it (three times so far) so go for it. My installation of PAF 2.31 on my LX has 42 files occupying just under a megabyte. I deleted most of the printer drivers except the ones I thought might be nice to have. Data is additional of course. 2.31 works great on the LX. I use it almost every day. PAF 3.0 works too, but is slower than a very slow thing, so I gave up on it. Cheers, Roger Cheers... Roger Whitmarsh Data Migration Analyst / Programmer IBM Global Services, AMS Delivery Petone Wellington, New Zealand Phone +64-4-576-5952 Fax +64-4-5765974 email: lodger@nz1.ibm.com "T. McCoy" To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sent by: HPLX cc: Mailing List Subject: PAF Installation 13/09/2002 17:10 Please respond to freeway Can somebody advise me the simplest way to install/setup PAF 2.xx on my 200LX? I have an original PAF install disk and it appears there are a myriad of files on this booger, possibly it is meant for Win3x OR Dos, I don't know.. I don't want to do the initial "unpacking" of this thing on my desktop for fear it will corrupt my PAF5 registry settings. Anybody out there has done this? Tommy ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:07:16 -0600 Reply-To: jaevans@codenet.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John_Evans Subject: Re: PAF Installation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'll second Roger's installation experience. I did my install a little differently though. I copied the files from floopy to a flashcard on my 800ct notebook and then ran the installation from the flashcard on my 200LX. It complains about some things (duplicates if memory serves me) but 2.x runs just fine on my 200LX in a SC session. I do not use it for data entry but rather just for viewing. I also had problems importing gedcoms on the 200lx, but run 2.x in a DOS window on my 800ct, saving in the paf database format, then copying the file(s) over to the 200lx. Hope this helps. john ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Roger Whitmarsh Reply-To: Roger Whitmarsh Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:36:01 +1200 >Tommy wrote: >>Can somebody advise me the simplest way to install/setup PAF 2.xx on my >>200LX? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:20:21 -0700 Reply-To: kwmiller@azbcs.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Kevin Miller - ABCS INC." Subject: Re: Does Curtis Cameron's Outlook to HP LX 3.03 Converter Work with Outlook 2000? Comments: To: jasher@ix.netcom.com In-Reply-To: <003401c25af2$319837c0$0300a8c0@ToshibaPortege> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It works for me. Are you getting an error? -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU]On Behalf Of Jeffrey W. Asher Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:53 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Does Curtis Cameron's Outlook to HP LX 3.03 Converter Work with Outlook 2000? When I use it I am not able to export calendar items from Outlook to the HP. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:38:39 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts; thanks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Axel 18h53m ago Axel Berger wrote: > Sometimes I am where I need to keep it quit. Silencing my HP means > remember a tool to make that easier. Yes: Stefan Peichl's LXPRO. Load it resident, then you can make the LX quiet with Ctrl-Tab 6, and it's totally quiet itself (if the volume was on level 3 before, if not, press 6 more than one time, and it will not be totally, bot almost quiet). There are also several command-line utilities to modify the volumne, you could use such a tool directly from an icon in AppMgr... GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:50:05 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Palmtop.net (hplx.net) down? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Oliver 22h17m ago Oliver W. Leibenguth wrote: > I just tried to go to the super site to find that the entire hplx.net > rejects any access to port 80. > Does anybody know what's wrong? This happens from time to time. No need to worry. I think David stops the WWW server from time to time to do maintenance, or something like that. It is always up again after an hour or so. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:08:22 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 10 Sep 2002 at 9:28, Al Kind wrote: > Hi All: > > I am willing to change the line limit on posts if there is a consensus to do > so. Please send me your suggestions, and I will acquiesce to the majority. > The current line limit is fine. It could even be a bit shorter. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:15:27 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts In-Reply-To: <000401c2597c$ffd59780$c03dfea9@atlantis> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 11 Sep 2002 at 12:10, Matthias Paul wrote: [snip] > To block attachments or larger malware/SPAM, I am pro-limit, > but IMHO the limit should not count in the variable-lengthened > header (as it does right now) and it should become somewhat > relaxed. 10 - 15 Kb worth ASCII text would be reasonable for > more complete articles, I think. This would be equivalent to > ca. 250 - 300 lines. Far too long. > Finally, I would prefer to see the Reply-To entries changed > to point to the list rather than the original poster. It's > more convenient to use in most mail clients and more conformant > with most other mailing lists. WWW/LX allows replies to either the sender or the list. I am using Pegasus Mail on this Win98 machine and it also allows replies to either the original sender or the list or both. Pegasus is both $-free and MS-free. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:22:56 -0300 Reply-To: Eduardo Dantas Correia Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eduardo Dantas Correia Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I can use Internet with my HP 95 LX ??? Tks Eduardo from Brasil ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:58:37 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a Dos question, not an LX question. But I've been mostly on topic recently so maybe (hopefully) I won't get flamed. I have an old 486 VGA (640x480) mono (16 shades of grey) laptop and I want to be able to view some documentation on it. I have a lot of it in HTML and some in PDF. The HTML stuff will be most useful to me but I can convert it to a kind of sloppy PDF in Win97 or Corel Draw if I have to. I can also substitute a color laptop (16 colors) but I prefer not to and doubt that I'll gain all that much anyway. Does anyone know of a good HTML viewer that I can use strictly in Dos? I know a lot of you use browsers on the LX so I thought someone might have some ideas. I won't be getting online with this so that isn't a consideration. I just want to view some documentation. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 08:43:48 +0800 Reply-To: Wee-Meng Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Wee-Meng Lee Subject: cc:Mail and NetTamer In-Reply-To: <009901c25b60$0728d620$220d22d1@oemcomputer> from "Barry" at Sep 13, 2002 02:58:37 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I was trying out NetTamer on the Omnibook 300 and I noticed that emails downloaded via pop are stored in one text file. In the documentation it also mentions that to send a mail, all one has to do is to create a text file. There's an option in "NetTamer /a1" that does auto connection, downloading/sending of email and logout. Was wonderin if there are any programs available that can convert cc:Mail email format on the 200LX to text files and vice versa? I figured if everything are in text files, I can use cc:Mail as a POP email client. Thx, weemeng ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 04:11:14 +0200 Reply-To: gonter@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: plea for software (LXPOP) Comments: To: Theodore Heise MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Theodore Heise wrote: > > Hi folks, > > A few years back, Rod Whitby combined the news and e-mail clients > for the LXTCP suite into a single client, LXMTA. There has been > interest in using the earlier e-mail client (LXPOP), but it > doesn't seem to be available anywhere. > > Does anyone have an archived copy of LXPOP that they could share? Brian McIlvaine allowed me to put the (his) sources of ccLXPOP on Sourceforge, there you can find the source at Version 2.01 right now: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cclxpop/ I'm not doing much with the software, my role is that of a librarian who preserves the material for later re-use. > If not, I'll contact Rod and ask him, but I'd rather not do that > if we can find it without bothering him. Rod is registered at Sourceforge too, I guess, he will not be too surprised if he is contacted about software projects. I do not know how ccLXpop and LXPOP are related. If the sources are available, I can offer my help to put them online at SF or re-integrate them with the ccLXpop source tree. > For that matter, I wouldn't mind having a copy of the old news > client. I can't remember for sure, but it was probably LXNNTP. My offer applies to that software too. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 00:00:06 -0600 Reply-To: Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: PAF Installation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll second (third?) what has been said about installing PAF. Go ahead and run the install program in a DOS box on a Windoze PC, and copy over the files. PAF 2.x doesn't do anything with Windows, so it will do nothing to your registry settings. I also have done it this way a number of times and had little to no complaints from PAF, unless the drive letters a different, then you just run the configuration program and that should solve it. I have run PAF 2.x and 3.x in the 200LX and they both work, but 3.x is slow and has display problems. Version 2.x works fine. The file format is different from PAF 5.x, but conversion of just text data (data other that graphics) should be no problem. Richard Smith ---------- NO UCE / NO UBE / NO SPAM / http://www.cauce.org ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 12:06:33 +0100 Reply-To: Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel, > ..and Post/LX users simply hit "t" instead of "F3", this creates a > reply to the address in the original "To:" field instead of the "From:" This does not work for the Digest format. Instead I added the following = in my post.cfg [hplx] section Alias=3DFolder HPLX Mailing List ExplodeDigest=3D1 To=3DHPLX Mailing List Now, pressing F3 replies to the list in all instances and "F" replies to = the author of the post. \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 12:06:30 +0100 Reply-To: Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Text convertion question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Domingo, > Hello. I am trying to convert outlines among different formats, = including > DOS and HPLX outlines. I am using the MindManager program, which = exports > outlines to RTF format, a well as ascii. The problem I have found is = that If you are using the free MindMan Personal v 3.0 (tm) you can also = dowload the free MindManager Viewer v3.5 (www.mindjet.com). This version can copy = to clipboard (or export) in outline format (1.2.1 etc..). You can then = replace each lever number by a TAB and read the file in e.g. MM/LX . \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 13:45:02 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Yves 36m ago Yves Leurquin wrote: > Alias=3DFolder HPLX Mailing List > ExplodeDigest=3D1 > To=3DHPLX Mailing List > > Now, pressing F3 replies to the list in all instances and "F" replies = to the > author of the post. I also tried that here, but it doesn't work. Adding the To=3D line in Post.cfg in the HPLX-L folder section doesn't have ANY effect to the reply behavior. Does anyone have an idea why this is the case? I use Post/LX v3.1a Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 15:21:40 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: cc:Mail and NetTamer In-Reply-To: <200209140043.IAA23033@anakin.sgp.hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 14 Sep 2002, Wee-Meng Lee wrote: > Was wonderin if there are any programs available that can > convert cc:Mail email format on the 200LX to text files and vice > versa? > > I figured if everything are in text files, I can use cc:Mail as a > POP email client. Check the LXTCP and CCLXPOP packages. -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 13:34:53 EDT Reply-To: Dknc@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Firstname Lastname Subject: Tech:PC card capacity supported by the HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does the HP200LX support the use of 512 MB PC cards? I have had no trouble with using a 256 MB card, but a new (Sandisk) 512 MB compact flash card (in an adaptor) is not recognized by the HP200. It works fine on a laptop. Dan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:48:19 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: PAF Installation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard and Patti Smith" > I have run PAF 2.x and 3.x in the 200LX and they both work, but > 3.x is slow and has display problems. Version 2.x works fine. ***************************************************** I've tried to set up PAF 3.x several times unsuccessfully for the same reasons that Richard mentions. Mostly because I was unable to pick a palette that would let me see things well enough to use the program effectively. Can someone point me to a copy of version 2.x? Thanks, bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 00:38:26 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Tech:PC card capacity supported by the HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dan 05h01m ago Firstname Lastname wrote: > Does the HP200LX support the use of 512 MB PC cards? I have had no = trouble > with using a 256 MB card, but a new (Sandisk) 512 MB compact flash = card (in > an adaptor) is not recognized by the HP200. It works fine on a = laptop. Please see http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/200lx/index.shtml#storage GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 01:01:27 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Text convertion question Comments: To: Yves Leurquin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You mean manual replace? That's what I am trying to avoid. I want automatic replace. I have the 2002 version (and the personal version), which produces outlines in the format you mention, but without the TABS. Thanks for trying. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yves Leurquin" To: Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 7:06 AM Subject: Re: Text convertion question Domingo, > Hello. I am trying to convert outlines among different formats, including > DOS and HPLX outlines. I am using the MindManager program, which exports > outlines to RTF format, a well as ascii. The problem I have found is that If you are using the free MindMan Personal v 3.0 (tm) you can also dowload the free MindManager Viewer v3.5 (www.mindjet.com). This version can copy to clipboard (or export) in outline format (1.2.1 etc..). You can then replace each lever number by a TAB and read the file in e.g. MM/LX . \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:24:11 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Organization: Goeldi.com Subject: Re: cc:Mail and NetTamer Comments: To: Erwann ABALEA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Was wonderin if there are any programs available that can > > convert cc:Mail email format on the 200LX to text files and vice > > versa? > > Check the LXTCP and CCLXPOP packages. The joke is, that there exist people (including me) who never figured out (even after the RTFM scenario) how to run LXTCP. So up-/downloading with Nettamer (which ALWAYS simply runs) and afterwards accessing with cc-Mail is clear. I ask myself, why it is not possible to simply change the relevant 2 or 3 lines (like in Nettamer) in LXTCP. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:47:46 +0200 Reply-To: Gijs Leegwater Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gijs Leegwater Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Barry, For HTML, use the Arachne Web browser (it works even on the LX) it is cga,ega,vga,vesa so it can display 640x480x16. Website: http://home.arachne.cz For PDF, use adobe's acrobat reader for dos. It can't be downloaded on adobe's site(they removed it), but it can be downloaded here: ftp://ftp.cit.cornell.edu/pub/cit-pubs/acrobat/dos/acrodos.exe This program can also display vga and vesa. It works good, it's a pretty program. Bye, Cheiz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 9:58 PM Subject: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) > This is a Dos question, not an LX question. But I've been mostly > on topic recently so maybe (hopefully) I won't get flamed. > > I have an old 486 VGA (640x480) mono (16 shades of grey) laptop and > I want to be able to view some documentation on it. I have a lot > of it in HTML and some in PDF. The HTML stuff will be most useful > to me but I can convert it to a kind of sloppy PDF in Win97 or > Corel Draw if I have to. I can also substitute a color laptop (16 > colors) but I prefer not to and doubt that I'll gain all that much > anyway. > > Does anyone know of a good HTML viewer that I can use strictly in > Dos? I know a lot of you use browsers on the LX so I thought > someone might have some ideas. > > I won't be getting online with this so that isn't a consideration. > I just want to view some documentation. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:11:36 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gijs Leegwater" To: Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 3:47 AM Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) > Hi Barry, > > For HTML, use the Arachne Web browser (it works even on the LX) it is > cga,ega,vga,vesa so it can display 640x480x16. Website: > http://home.arachne.cz > For PDF, use adobe's acrobat reader for dos. It can't be downloaded on > adobe's site(they removed it), but it can be downloaded here: > ftp://ftp.cit.cornell.edu/pub/cit-pubs/acrobat/dos/acrodos.exe > This program can also display vga and vesa. It works good, it's a pretty > program. The link for acrodos doesn't work. Maybe they removed it entirely. I also did a search on Adobe's site for "acrodos" and nothing. I also tried searching for "dos" and ms-dos" and "msdos". Nothing useful. Any ideas? Right now I'm downloading Arachne's browser and I'll see how that works. A good browser is really my first choice. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:06:13 -0500 Reply-To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry, I did a google and found this on simtel: http://www.simtel.net/pub/pd/51350.shtml > > The link for acrodos doesn't work. Maybe they removed it entirely. > I also did a search on Adobe's site for "acrodos" and nothing. I > also tried searching for "dos" and ms-dos" and "msdos". Nothing > useful. Any ideas? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:19:59 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) Comments: To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Salwasser" To: Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) > Barry, I did a google and found this on simtel: > http://www.simtel.net/pub/pd/51350.shtml Thanks. Someone sent me a copy of acrodos in private email. It also seems that the Arachne browser has a pdf plugin. I've downloaded it but I haven't had a chance to check it out yet. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:29:18 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Barry 02h16m ago Barry wrote: > The link for acrodos doesn't work. Maybe they removed it entirely. > I also did a search on Adobe's site for "acrodos" and nothing. I > also tried searching for "dos" and ms-dos" and "msdos". Nothing > useful. Any ideas? I don't know but maybe Ghostscript / Ghostview can display PDFs? At least there should be a converter from PDF to PS, and the Ghostview can display it. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:11:01 +0200 Reply-To: Juan Belmonte Moreno Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Juan Belmonte Moreno Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, ghostcript CAN read / view PDF files also can convert to MBF bitmap file. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 6:29 PM I don't know but maybe Ghostscript / Ghostview can display PDFs? At least there should be a converter from PDF to PS, and the Ghostview can display it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:15:18 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) > I don't know but maybe Ghostscript / Ghostview > can display PDFs? At least there should be a converter > from PDF to PS, and the Ghostview can display it. I'm onto the worldwide practical joke known as ghostscript/ghostview. I've tried unsuccesfully to install one or the other or both on half a dozen systems or more over the years. I think on dos, win31 and win98. It's never yet installed. You can give up reccomending it. I already know it is just a joke and it will never work. I think we went through this a few months ago, too. Yes, I know 50 of you will now speak up and tell me about all the wonderful experiences you've had with ghostview or ghostscript. I'll now hear tales of many lives being saved by these programs; stories of how it's improved your sex lives; explanations of the many wonders it's performed. But I know better. You need another sucker. I've already caught on. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:16:03 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) Comments: To: Juan Belmonte Moreno MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Belmonte Moreno" To: Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 12:11 PM Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) > Yes, ghostcript CAN read / view PDF files > also can convert to MBF bitmap file. Uh huh! Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:55:46 +0200 Reply-To: Michel Bel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michel Bel Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" > Yes, I know 50 of you will now speak up and tell me about all the > wonderful experiences you've had with ghostview or ghostscript. Well, used it for about 4 years now...no problems yet - and I have some unstable systems.... I use it to convert PDF pages to .PCX to view on the LX with LXPIC.... Michel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 21:05:15 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Barry 01h38m ago Barry wrote: > I'm onto the worldwide practical joke known as > ghostscript/ghostview. I've tried unsuccesfully to install one or > the other or both on half a dozen systems or more over the years. > I think on dos, win31 and win98. It's never yet installed. > > You can give up reccomending it. I already know it is just a joke > and it will never work. I think we went through this a few months > ago, too. Excuse me, Barry, but I recommend it because it's a program which can satisfy the user who wants to display PDFs on his DOS machine. If you had bad experiences, I'm sorry to hear that, but that does not affect in any way my recommendation. Whoever wants to try the program can and will do it. On Linux systems it is usually preinstalled and works out of the box. For DOS, it may have to be set up manually, but I remember that I had it on my DOS PC a few years ago and it worked wonderfully. My brother installed it, not I, but I think that proves that it can be installed. What you need is one of these protected mode thingies, DPMS, EMX, RSX or so - I have no idea about these things. Did you consider that you simply did something wrong everytime you tried to install it? ;-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 15:17:54 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: cc:Mail and NetTamer Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi In-Reply-To: <001a01c25c91$488f0120$0a01a8c0@buero> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Stephan Goeldi wrote: > The joke is, that there exist people (including me) who never figured out > (even after the RTFM scenario) how to run LXTCP. So up-/downloading with > Nettamer (which ALWAYS simply runs) and afterwards accessing with cc-Mail is > clear. > > I ask myself, why it is not possible to simply change the relevant 2 or 3 > lines (like in Nettamer) in LXTCP. I think there are more than 2 or 3 lines to change for LXTCP. If you haven't done so already, you might have a look at the instructions I've written: http://heise.nu/LXTCP.html -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:36:07 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Text convertion question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On this subject, I used to have some DOS text filters, which converted TABs to spaces. I could make do with converting spaces to TABs (the program I use can indent the outlines with spaces, but this format is not recognized by other programs). Is this possible? TIA Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:46:37 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Fluff: Too stupid for the listserver In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 1 day 16h20m ago Daniel Hertrich wrote: > 36m ago Yves Leurquin wrote: > > > Alias=Folder HPLX Mailing List > > ExplodeDigest=1 > > To=HPLX Mailing List > > > > Now, pressing F3 replies to the list in all instances and "F" replies to the > > author of the post. > > I also tried that here, but it doesn't work. Adding the To= line in > Post.cfg in the HPLX-L folder section doesn't have ANY effect to the > reply behavior. > Does anyone have an idea why this is the case? I use Post/LX v3.1a Hi Daniel - AFAIR the exploded digest messages have never had a "Reply-To:". The digest header itself does (good thing too, or an autoresponder-meltdown could otherwise occur), but this is not repeated for each individual message. It seems that if there is a "Reply-To:" in a message being replied to than any "To=" setting in POST.CFG is ignored. This must have been done to comply with the anti-flame hplx protocol. Actually I think a determined flamer would take great care the message went to the "hot spot", regardless of the Reply-To. It's more likely that someone quickly types a tip and shoots it off to the person, rather than the list. Yves has a great flaming setup with the digest as all "F3" go to the list. But to send to the person he needs to press "F". If you want a strong "To=" then the only way would be to ask for an option to be coded I think. OTOH at least we do get to use the "T" key in POST/LX - I've only ever used it with the HPLX-L, as normally it would just send me a message. - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 22:44:46 -0700 Reply-To: patrick@west.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Dos HTML viewer In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:47:46 +0200, Gijs Leegwater wrote: >Hi Barry, > >For HTML, use the Arachne Web browser (it works even on the LX)= it >is cga,ega,vga,vesa so it can display 640x480x16. Website: >http://home.arachne.cz That link says VGA at least. Is there an older version somewhere= that works on the hplx? -- Patrick West, patrickwest3@attbi.com on 09/15/2002 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:39:08 +0200 Reply-To: Dzon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dzon Subject: GSM Siemens M(T)50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello LXers, is anyone of you using this phone with 200LX? I plan to buy it, but I want to be sure it is usable with LX. I am interested mainly in sending SMSs via 'normal' :) keyboard and some mailing. Thanks a lot -- -Dzon dzon@softhome.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 05:05:31 -0700 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Hplx and Winxp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I am posting this for Lillebj=F8rn Nilsen. He will buy a new laptop with Windows XP as a companion for his main machine the Hp200LX. Question is if you can get the Connectivity pack to ork under Windows XP. I know this has been discussed here before. I have no webaccess at the moment so I can not check the archive. Could somebody please tell me/him if you can use Win XP (A Hewlett Packard XE3F5605H with a Celeron1130 20gig/128ram..) with his Hp200lx for the things we use it for. Connectivity pack and normal serial connection and thongs like that. Please post a copy to my emailadress and to the list. TIA Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 14:10:48 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Dos HTML viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Patrick and others, 02h42m ago Patrick West wrote: > >http://home.arachne.cz > That link says VGA at least. Is there an older version somewhere that = works on the hplx? Some time ago, I sold the author, Michael Polak, a Siemens Data cable, because he got a 200LX and wanted to create a 200LX-specific Arachne version. I don't know anything about his progress, but if you are interested, I recommend asking him. The more people ask, the more he may be motivated to continue his project. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:26:41 -0300 Reply-To: Eduardo Dantas Correia Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eduardo Dantas Correia Subject: HP 95LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C25D63.2A56EB00" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C25D63.2A56EB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everybody ! I have an HP 95LX, and I'd like using it with my Windows 2000 and = perhaps with Linux(is it possible?). I have the Transfilwin2000 version 1.03, but it doesn't execute in = Windows 2000. Are there any new version about it ? I've seen several programs and solutions for it in some sites. Could we = to change any links ? 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------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C25D63.2A56EB00-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:35:47 +0100 Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Svagr, Radek" Subject: Re: Dos HTML viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Arachne is working on 200lx - it already has a CGA support. But the status bar will take 1/2 of the screen due to not optimized icons etc. and it is extremely slow on DS 200LX. Even on Olivetti Quderno33 (386/20) is still too slow. I was using it few years ago on 386DX/40 with 8MB RAM. On this machine the speed was acceptable. That stands for a normal version. I am really looking forward to see 200lx optimized one. Radek > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List On Behalf Of Daniel Hertrich > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 1:11 PM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Dos HTML viewer > > Hi Patrick and others, > > 02h42m ago Patrick West wrote: > > > >http://home.arachne.cz > > That link says VGA at least. Is there an older version somewhere that works on the hplx? > > Some time ago, I sold the author, Michael Polak, a Siemens Data cable, > because he got a 200LX and wanted to create a 200LX-specific Arachne > version. I don't know anything about his progress, but if you are > interested, I recommend asking him. The more people ask, the more he > may be motivated to continue his project. > > GTX > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 06:42:08 -0700 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: GSM Siemens M(T)50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:39:08 +0200, Dzon wrote: > Hello LXers, Hellu > is anyone of you using this phone with 200LX? I plan to buy it, but I want > to be sure it is usable with LX. I am interested mainly in sending SMSs > via 'normal' :) keyboard and some mailing. It does not have irda so you need a cable. Daniel has probably what you need to know about cable and Siemens on his website. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:00:09 -0400 Reply-To: MAnderson@SHIPLEY.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Anderson Subject: (OT) FS: HP Jornada 720 Comments: To: newtontalk@planetnewton.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi - I know this is OT, but I've always had good experience with this list and wanted to see if anyone was interested. I am selling my HP Jornada 720, which is an excellent Handheld PC, with a decent keyboard, fast processor and so on. The 720 is a great unit and I'd recommend it to anyone. It has a fast 206 MHz processor, 32MB of RAM, a nice 16-bit color screen, and so on. It has a Type I Compact flash slot on the bottom, and a Type II PC Card slot on the side. I am looking for $450. For $475, I will include FedEx 2nd day shipping and a Accton network card.. Thanks, Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:06:21 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Hplx and Winxp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Using WinXP Pro here and Transfile Win200 works fine. I don't know about = the connectivity pack, tough. Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Bergvill" To: Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: Hplx and Winxp Hi I am posting this for Lillebj=F8rn Nilsen. He will buy a new laptop with Windows XP as a companion for his main machine the Hp200LX. Question is if you can get the Connectivity pack to ork under Windows XP. I know this has been discussed here before. I have no webaccess at the moment so I can not check the archive. Could somebody please tell me/him if you can use Win XP (A Hewlett Packard XE3F5605H with a Celeron1130 20gig/128ram..) with his Hp200lx for the things we use it for. Connectivity pack and normal serial connection and thongs like that. Please post a copy to my emailadress and to the list. TIA Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:10:04 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Hplx and Winxp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry that I did not post this in my previous message, but the dos-support of winxp does not work very well. I have tried severa= l TSR's, but you cannot recall them (staying in the same dos-box). afaik, t= he dos-connectivity pack uses one or more TSR's, so I suppose it won't work. Me again [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Bergvill" To: Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: Hplx and Winxp Hi I am posting this for Lillebj=F8rn Nilsen. He will buy a new laptop with Windows XP as a companion for his main machine the Hp200LX. Question is if you can get the Connectivity pack to ork under Windows XP. I know this has been discussed here before. I have no webaccess at the moment so I can not check the archive. Could somebody please tell me/him if you can use Win XP (A Hewlett Packard XE3F5605H with a Celeron1130 20gig/128ram..) with his Hp200lx for the things we use it for. Connectivity pack and normal serial connection and thongs like that. Please post a copy to my emailadress and to the list. TIA Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:24:32 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Dos HTML viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick West" To: Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 12:44 AM Subject: Dos HTML viewer >For HTML, use the Arachne Web browser >> (it works even on the LX) it is cga,ega,vga, >> vesa so it can display 640x480x16. Website: >That link says VGA at least. Is there an older > version somewhere that works on the hplx? I haven't installed this yet so I don't know how well it works, but there is a replacement module for part of it that say's specifically that it's for HPLX users. It's in the add-on section under the heading of "Downgrades". Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:31:11 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Hplx and Winxp Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Bergvill" To: Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 7:05 AM Subject: Hplx and Winxp > Could somebody please tell me/him if > you can use Win XP (A Hewlett Packard > XE3F5605H with a > Celeron1130 20gig/128ram..) with his > Hp200lx for the things we use it for. > Connectivity pack and normal serial > connection and thongs like that. I'm not sure if this helps or even if it can still be done but 2 or 3 months ago I got one of IBM's monthly newsletters that offered one of their Thinkpads at a very low price. It came with XP which I don't want so I called and asked if it was possible to get one with Win98 and they called me back a little later and said yes and I'd get $60 off. They had 5 in stock. I decided not to spend the money but I was sorely tempted. You might call HP and see if they can do that. Who knows. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:52:09 +0200 Reply-To: Matthias Paul Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Matthias Paul Organization: Aachen University of Technology (RWTH), Germany Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2002-09-13, Barry wrote: > Does anyone know of a good HTML viewer that I can use strictly in > Dos? I know a lot of you use browsers on the LX so I thought > someone might have some ideas. - Textmode DOS web browsers, HTML viewers, and editors: - DOSLYNX 1.6 (http://www.fdisk.com) - VIEWHTML 2.0 (http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ksolway/) - PhysTechSoft's HELP.EXE (part of some of their distributions) - Elvis 2.1 (ftp://ftp.cs.pdx.edu) - Fully graphical DOS web browsers: - Michal Polak's Arachne (http://home.arachne.cz) - Caldera DR-WebSpyder 2.1 (aka Lineo EmBrowser) NB. Requirements: 386+ with 4 Mb min., JavaScript requires 8 Mb. This was originally based on Arachne in 1997, but was ported to be a 32-bit DPMI Extended DOS application, with major parts being rewritten in the end. Uses Novell's/Caldera's networking driver stack (known from LAN Workplace for DOS, NetWare Mobile, Personal NetWare, etc.). Much more fancy than Arachne, with OEM features to run on reduced set-top boxes/TVs, but since development on DR-WebSpyder stopped in 1999-02, Arachne caught up again. Still, I think, it has a prettier appearance than Arachne, but Arachne is more powerful in most aspects now.) - New Deal Office 3.2, 4.xx (aka NDO 2000) or Breadbox Ensemble NB. Requirements: 286+ with 640 Kb min., most parts will also run on 8086 based machines, but extremely slow, recommended: 386 or 486 with at least 2 Mb or better GEOS is much more than just a web browser, it's an impressive low-footprint object-oriented graphical multitasking operating system with outline font technology on top of DOS, together with a comprehensive WYSIWYG office suite and internet tools including a web-browser. Has a switchable Motif or Windows 95 like appearance and supports virtual screens for low-resolution video hardware. NDO 2000 also comes with a limited PDF viewer, the newer Ensemble (issued in 2002) does not. Much faster than Windows 3.x. With little tweaking you can configure the system to directly come up with the web browser, so you could use it almost as if it was a "normal" DOS application, not an operating system in itself. Has direct support for the DR-DOS multitasker, but this requires some tweaking as well. http://www.tvakatter.org (free evaluation versions of the 1998 NDO 3.2 version), http://www.breadbox.com (for NDO 2000 and Breadbox Ensemble), http://www.sun-2k.com. - Shane Coughlan's OpenGEM 1.2 (http://gem.shaneland.co.uk) NB. This recently issued FreeGEM distribution includes Heinz Rath's GEMWeb HTML viewer. It's still very limited, though. There are many more DOS browsers (BobCat, WebBoy, etc.), but I have no personal experience with them. Hope it helps, Matthias --=20 ; http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html; http://mpaul.drdos.org "Programs are poems for computers." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:52:36 -0400 Reply-To: jmusielewicz@earthlink.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: plea for software (LXPOP) Comments: To: Theodore Heise > Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:12:30 -0500 > Reply-To: Theodore Heise > From: Theodore Heise > Subject: plea for software (LXPOP) > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > > Hi folks, > > > Does anyone have an archived copy of LXPOP that they could share? > > Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA > Sorry about the late reply. I have all versions archived. If you haven't gotten it let me know and I can send it to you. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:52:38 -0400 Reply-To: jmusielewicz@earthlink.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Hplx and Winxp Comments: To: Martin Bergvill > Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 05:05:31 -0700 > Reply-To: Martin Bergvill > From: Martin Bergvill > Subject: Hplx and Winxp > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Hi Martin > > Hi > > I am posting this for Lillebj=F8rn Nilsen. > > He will buy a new laptop with Windows XP as a companion for his main > machine the Hp200LX. > > Question is if you can get the Connectivity pack to ork under Windows > XP. You can but why? Why not set the laptop to dual boot with DR-DOS. The conectivity pack will run and everything will work in a much faster better environment than under Windows and remapping of drives will work with laplink so you pretty much have a network setup. DR-DOS even has fat32 and ntfs file system drivers so you can read the drives. > TIA > > Regards > > -- > Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:52:41 -0400 Reply-To: jmusielewicz@earthlink.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Format of pdb of Mobipocket Hi Everyone As long as I was working on other stuff for the 200LX I thought I'd start on a reader for palm pilot pdb and doc for the 200LX and DOS. Does anyone know if or where information on the format for those can be downloaded? TIA John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:52:43 -0400 Reply-To: jmusielewicz@earthlink.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:58:37 -0500 > Reply-To: Barry > From: Barry > Subject: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Hi Barry > > Does anyone know of a good HTML viewer that I can use strictly in > Dos? I know a lot of you use browsers on the LX so I thought > someone might have some ideas. Arachne- www.arachne.cz. It also has a pdf to txt converter you can use to convert pdf to txt to read in Word Perfect for Dos or Vertical Reader on the 200LX. The pdf converter is a stand alone program so you can run it on any DOS machine that has a 386 or greater. The DOS pdf reader floating around won't read most pdf and places are really reluctant to convert to the format even if you ask nicely and are actually quite rude about it like there is something wrong with reading pdf in dos. The kooks!! > > I won't be getting online with this so that isn't a consideration. > I just want to view some documentation. How is DR-DOS working out for you? Have you tried it yet? I had a bear of a time setting it up to dual boot and run properly with Win98 on a Libretto but have seemed to have gotten most of the bugs worked out. If you need power management- PC-DOS power management will work with it. It seems the DR-DOS power management, idle.sys, is only included with the SDK. > > Barry John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:35:54 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Format of pdb of Mobipocket MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain You should be aware that .pdb and .doc are file extensions that apply to a number of different file formats proprietary to different companies. One format that I have seen info (and toolkits) for is HanDBase. You can also get some pdb info at http://www.nicholson.com/rhn/pilot/pdb.txt. I would just Google for info on the particular flavor of pdb or doc you are interested in. You should also check the HPLX archives, as there have been several prior discussions of pdb and doc converters. Bob -----Original Message----- From: John Musielewicz [mailto:jmusielewicz@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 12:53 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Format of pdb of Mobipocket Hi Everyone As long as I was working on other stuff for the 200LX I thought I'd start on a reader for palm pilot pdb and doc for the 200LX and DOS. Does anyone know if or where information on the format for those can be downloaded? TIA John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 19:50:06 +0200 Reply-To: Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Roboweb i news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! When i read posts in News/lx I often stumble across URL:s that I have to check out. So i export the link to a file that i later browse on my desktop. I would like to use Roboweb instead. I would like to have an easy way to add a URL to a Roboweb search from within News/lx. When I am done I could go online again and retrive the URL's. Any ideas how this could be done in the most convinient way. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:29:41 -0300 Reply-To: Rodrigo Serra Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rodrigo Serra Subject: Re: GSM Siemens M(T)50 Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mart=EDn, Try this http://j200lx.sourceforge.net -----Mensaje original----- De: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu] En nombre de Martin Bergvill Enviado el: Lunes, 16 de Septiembre de 2002 10:42 a.m. Para: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Asunto: Re: GSM Siemens M(T)50 On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:39:08 +0200, Dzon wrote: > Hello LXers, Hellu > is anyone of you using this phone with 200LX? I plan to buy it, but I > want to be sure it is usable with LX. I am interested mainly in=20 > sending SMSs via 'normal' :) keyboard and some mailing. It does not have irda so you need a cable. Daniel has probably what you need to know about cable and Siemens on his website. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:57:00 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Roboweb i news In-Reply-To: <200209161750.g8GHo5G24906@nop2.uas.se> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 02h44m ago Tomas Moberg wrote: > Hi! > When i read posts in News/lx I often stumble across URL:s > that I have to check out. So i export the link to a file > that i later browse on my desktop. I would like to use > Roboweb instead. > I would like to have an easy way to add a URL to a Roboweb > search from within News/lx. When I am done I could go online > again and retrive the URL's. > Any ideas how this could be done in the most convinient way. Hi Tomas, I think that what you want was added to Roboweb earlier this year. From RWHIST.DOC: --------------------------------------------------------------- 12/02/2002 The POST/LX "file:" feature has been incorporated. Two types of "file:" are recognised: 1. with ".txt" extension - this is just a list of URLs, one per line 2. with ".hot" extension - this is a file in the same format as HV.HOT with each pair of lines being a label followed by a URL. In either case, the "http://" is optional. This option means that you can "grab" URLs using the POST/LX "grab" feature (press "G" while reading a message), and then send ROBOWEB off to collect them! Here is an example of such a dig. Note that when viewed in POST/LX the "To:" line appears as To: file:a:\hv\hv.hot --------- Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:39:52 From: ROBOWEB/LX To: -la:\hv\hv.hot- Subject: grablink MaxCount=50 Depth=2 URLXhost=1 OpenTest=0 ------ MaxCount just needs to be high enough to exceed the number of digs in the file. URLXhost=1 is necessary if the links are on different sites. If you want .HTML stored in your inbox then add DetagFlag=0 Of course, all other ROBOWEB/LX options are valid too. OpenTest=0 will not test the carrier if an empty page comes in. This is handy if you are testing an old hv.hot file, which may have links or files which don't exist any more. Thanks to Mark-Wallace Jones for suggesting this! --------------------------------------------------------------- The above example uses the hv.hot file - you could have a file called grablink.txt in POST.CFG [SYSTEM]: GrabLink=grablink.txt ;GrabLink=!a:\hv\hv.exe $g $d Then everything with http:// in front can go there - or if you want to preserve that second Grablink above (so you can still easily visit URL's right from withing POST/LX) you can instead trim the http:// off the front of the grabbed text and then GrabText=grablink.txt would become the default. There is still manual work involved in maybe editing the grablink.txt or changing it's name after it has been used. -- -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:14:41 -0700 Reply-To: Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Back for a shirt while, moving to Handspring Treo 300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, folks, I'm back one more time to sell what I've got left (minus my backup machine, just as a souvenir) related to my trusted HP200LX! The move to my new Handspring Treo 300 (running Palm) was fairly tricky, but thanks to Curtis Cameron's OL2LX software, I was able to move all my database (except APPT.ADB, it kept crashing the program on W2K) to Outlook, from which I was able to Sync to the Palm. Nice stuff. For 1-2-3 files, I used excel to convert to .xls format, then Documents To Go for the palm to allow me to access them on the Palm. Not bad. As for APPT.ADB, I just gave up and entered all the future appointments and Todos directly in the Palm. Much simpler that way. Anyone ever though of building a "conduit" for the HPLX? Seems like Palm Connect did that in '95. I have the palm connect software that supposedly should allow me to sync up the LX, but I never managed to make it work in Win98 or later and never tried on earlier Win versions. Anyway, with a conduit (much like Curtis Cameron's OL2LX, but for Sync'ing using appropriate software, I would think that it would be possible to keep a version of data on PC, LX and Palm all at once. Would be cool :) Anyway, now that I have everything PDA and CellPhone all in one device, I'm quite a happy camper. Backlight, colors, real web browsing, sync'ing -- overall this is really neat! And I can find all the apps for Palm I want on the net. So anyway, anyone else gone to the Handspring Treo or other Palm and would like to share experiences? Also, for those staying with the LX, I happen to have lots of LX stuff (software and hardware), and will probably send an e-mail with the list one of these days. I also have a few old Casio Cassiopeia that will hotsync nicely with outlook with the provided software, which could be nice for those of you who would like the data somewhere close by in a compact machine. Anyway, if you have specific interests and needs, feel free to e-mail me privately to ask me if I have this or that piece of hardware/software, which will definitely get you ahead of the pack compared to when I send out a full list of stuff. A bientot, Philippe A bientot et avec amour, Fuzzy :philippe Stilts/Chocolate Truffles/Chill Spaces/Fuzzy Characters... mystikat@california.com - email (866) 248-7673 x6111 - voicemail/fax "Create the world you dream with every choice you make!" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:54:37 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Format of pdb of Mobipocket Comments: To: jmusielewicz@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Musielewicz" To: Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 12:52 PM Subject: Format of pdb of Mobipocket > Hi Everyone > > As long as I was working on other stuff for the 200LX I thought > I'd start on a reader for palm pilot pdb and doc for the 200LX > and DOS. Does anyone know if or where information on the format > for those can be downloaded? TIA I'd take a look at www.quartus.com. They make a forth for onboard programming on the palm. I don't know if that interests you but they also have a bunch of links and a lot of on-site documentation. They also have a link to a wiki that has a lot of documentation and links to other documentation. I'm sure you'll find everything from there. You can also check the Palm developer's site. It used to be www.palm.com/devzone. They've reorganized their site and I don't recall the new url. But that one might get you there. Get on palm's site and you'll find it fairly easily. You'll run into a problem with the formats because there is no real standard. The pdb format is pretty general. It's for just any sort of data you might have; ebooks, databases, etc. There is a format for the file but not for it's contents. The only two palm extensions are pdb and prc. Pdb is for data and prc is for programs, although there is some overlap. These are both documented in the developer's guide, which is a free download. There's also documentation on sites all over the web. It's become a major platform. As for the doc format, there are variations. They're all documented but they're all a bit different. Not many readers can read them all but I think some can. Ask 10 people which is the main one and you'll get 15 answers. :) I don't think you'll find anything except the generality very difficult. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:59:05 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) Comments: To: jmusielewicz@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Musielewicz" To: Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 12:52 PM Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) > > How is DR-DOS working out for you? Have you tried it yet? I had a > bear of a time setting it up to dual boot and run properly with > Win98 on a Libretto but have seemed to have gotten most of the > bugs worked out. If you need power management- PC-DOS power > management will work with it. It seems the DR-DOS power > management, idle.sys, is only included with the SDK. I haven't tried it yet. When I do it'll be alone on a computer so dual boot won't be an issue. I may have some questions about power management when I begin. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:30:13 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: ANN:GOPRICES update MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- A new GOPRICES.ZIP is now uploaded, which works with the new finance.yahoo web page(s) (yahoo changed last week). -- -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 07:01:22 -0400 Reply-To: stan.hplx@VERIZON.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Re: microcontroller programming with HPLX - Was (Re: TECH: CF cards,in 700LX) Comments: To: Juan Belmonte Moreno MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have used my 200LX to edit and download programs into my BASIC Stamp II projects. I use the DOS Stamp editor and it works fine on the palmtop. There is one function (can't remember which) that does not work too well (causes the 200 to lock up), but I didn't need to use that much anyway. It was funny last summer when I was working out on the picnic table in the back yard. I have the project parts spread out all over the table, the Stamp Board of Education plugged into the 200LX as I was editing and downloading the BASIC programs. And my PIII-700MHz notebook was sitting right there also - playing MP3 files as background music. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 20:32:55 +0200 Reply-To: Matthias Paul Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Matthias Paul Organization: Aachen University of Technology (RWTH), Germany Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2002-09-16, John Musielewicz wrote: > How is DR-DOS working out for you? Have you tried it yet? I had a > bear of a time setting it up to dual boot and run properly with > Win98 on a Libretto but have seemed to have gotten most of the > bugs worked out. What's been the problem, actually? Hm, setting up multi-OS boot should be almost as easy as running "LOADER BOOT.LST" in the root of the boot drive C:\>. If you get a warning by some resident anti-virus software that something attempts to overwrite the MBR, you will have to answer Yes and on the next boot you should already see LOADER's boot menu already. Since DR-DOS' boot sector is smart enough to find the kernel files itself, you can always copy the kernel files IBMBIO.COM and IBMDOS.COM with the normal COPY command (or any other file copy utility). They do not need to be located in a specific physical position. If you use LOADER, there is no need to use SYS at all, as it is a requirement under MS-DOS/PC DOS. It is a bit more tricky to set up LOADER if you also use a DiskManager style software (as you must install LOADER into the virtual, not the physical MBR), or if your disks are either LBA or FAT32 or both, but otherwise, I'm not aware of any problems with it. The new DR-DOS SYS even has a few handy options like /C (do not use %COMSPEC% to copy command processor), /DR:ext (create kernel files with extension .ext instead of the default ending, that is IBMBIO.ext, IBMDOS.ext, and [D]CONFIG.ext instead of IBMBIO.COM, IBMDOS.COM and [D]CONFIG.SYS), /L (do not update the boot sector), or /S (do not copy the command processor at all) to make it even easier to set up a multi-boot system with LOADER. See SYS /? and LOADER /? for details. Since I don't know how welcome discussing DR-DOS issues at a more detailed level would be in this forum, I'd like to point out, that we have an "OpenDOS" mailing list dealing with problems in conjunction with DR-DOS family members (subscription at http://www.delorie.com). Most any DR-DOS issue I can think of has been discussed there in comprehensive details in the past five years and the old posts are searchable as well. Years ago it has been a high-traffic list, but nowadays it's at max a few posts a day, but many of the old list members and even some of the DR-DOS developers like me are still visiting this forum and try to help where we can. You are welcome to join our forum as well. > If you need power management- PC-DOS power management will > work with it. It seems the DR-DOS power management, idle.sys, > is only included with the SDK. Power management works quite different in these OSes. You can use POWER.EXE under DR-DOS, but you could save much more power if you'd have an IDLE.SYS driver for your particular system. (Well, this may be a theoretical issue, since most probably you don't have an OEM specific IDLE.SYS driver for your system, I know...) By monitoring various system events, DR-DOS provides a patented dynamic idle detection method, so that the system can *actively* save power even when the applications are totally unaware of any power-saving facilities (as most old DOS applications are). With a few exceptions, POWER requires the applications to make certain calls in order to save power, so power saving is less efficient than it could be when the operating system would monitor the application's behaviour. Another purpose of the dynamic idle detection is to optimize the throughput under the preemptive multitasker by use of IDLE386. If you run the multitasker you will notice, that you can enable and disable idle detection with the IDLE ON|OFF command. Without the multitasker, IDLE is OFF unless the OEM who built your machine provides an IDLE.SYS device driver for DR-DOS to interface with. This driver may be linked into the IBMBIO.COM file or could be loaded via DEVICE=3D. DR-DOS by itself does not (and cannot) know, how to save power on a particular system, because the methods to switch off parts of the system differ significantly between different systems and Advanced Power Management (APM) (or even the newer ACPI) did not exist when DR-DOS' dynamic idle detection was incorporated into DR DOS 5.0+ (1990) and was improved for NetWare PalmDOS 1.0 (1992). Originally, idle detection was a feature of the Multiuser DOS series. So, it's up to the OEMs to write such drivers. The DR-DOS SBK has all the details and the source code to a demo driver. RBIL 61 also has most of the relevant bits. Caldera developed an IDLE.SYS driver to interface with the then established APM standard in 1998, but this driver is not part of the normal desktop distribution, unfortunately, but it is used by OEMs who use DR-DOS in mobile applications or embedded systems. Greetings, Matthias --=20 ; http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html; http://mpaul.drdos.org "Programs are poems for computers." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:12:51 +0100 Reply-To: Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Text convertion question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Domingo, > You mean manual replace? That's what I am trying to avoid. I want > automatic replace. > I have the 2002 version (and the personal version), which produces = outlines > in the format you mention, but without the TABS. No, I mean automatic replace through regular expression using TextPad or similar application i.e. replace all digit followed by a dot by 3 spaces ([0-9][.] -> " " ) \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:13:22 -0500 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) In-Reply-To: <000501c25e7f$8e5e56c0$c03dfea9@atlantis> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 20:32:55 +0200, you wrote: >On 2002-09-16, John Musielewicz wrote: > >> How is DR-DOS working out for you? Have you tried it yet? I had a >> bear of a time setting it up to dual boot and run properly with >> Win98 on a Libretto but have seemed to have gotten most of the >> bugs worked out. > >What's been the problem, actually? Windows messed with the Dos system files. > >Hm, setting up multi-OS boot should be almost as easy as running >"LOADER BOOT.LST" in the root of the boot drive C:\>. >If you get a warning by some resident anti-virus software that >something attempts to overwrite the MBR, you will have to answer >Yes and on the next boot you should already see LOADER's boot >menu already. Yes setting up dual boot was that easy. >Since DR-DOS' boot sector is smart enough to find the kernel >files itself, you can always copy the kernel files IBMBIO.COM >and IBMDOS.COM with the normal COPY command (or any other file >copy utility). They do not need to be located in a specific physical >position. If you use LOADER, there is no need to use SYS at all, >as it is a requirement under MS-DOS/PC DOS. You need to set the read only and system attributes too. Its best to install the OS though because it uses memory better then. > >Since I don't know how welcome discussing DR-DOS issues at a more >detailed level would be in this forum, I'd like to point out, >that we have an "OpenDOS" mailing list dealing with problems >in conjunction with DR-DOS family members (subscription at >http://www.delorie.com). I have no problem talking about DR-DOS besides the 200LX on the list. The 200LX uses DOS after all. It is much more productive to me than discussing WinBlows. > >Most any DR-DOS issue I can think of has been discussed there >in comprehensive details in the past five years and the old >posts are searchable as well. Years ago it has been a high-traffic >list, but nowadays it's at max a few posts a day, but many of the >old list members and even some of the DR-DOS developers like >me are still visiting this forum and try to help where we can. >You are welcome to join our forum as well. Thanks > John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:06:25 -0600 Reply-To: Donald Puscher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Donald Puscher Subject: New gdbload Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Has anyone used David Becher's new gdbload 1.03 yet? I'm trying to load some info into an existing database "&Title","&Author","&Subject","A&vailability","&Publisher","Sta&rt","&Fini","&Notes" A Second Browser's Dictionary, John Ciardi, Writing, , , , , using this command gdbload -a read.gdb add.txt but I keep getting this error message gdbdump(1): is not a valid date The docs say "Date and time fields may also be left blank, i.e., nothing between the commas." That doesn't seem to work. If I put in a date, say 19930815 from the docs, it works fine. I've also tried quoting everything, but that doesn't help. Is it user error or a bug? Thanks, Don the Database Challenged ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 19:01:59 -0400 Reply-To: japple@mail.berkshire.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joel Catalano Subject: FS: 4MB 200LX and accessories MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Long time lurker selling on Ebay: 4 MB 200LX #1382014847 Various Accessories & Software #1382032635 Everything in great shape. Thanks, it was a great ride. Joel Catalano ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:08:50 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Text convertion question Comments: To: Yves Leurquin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmm, I didn't think of that. I just searched for Texpad, and it looks good, but do you know of a freeware alternative? I have used regular expressions in their simplest forms, so I am not familiar with something as complicated as what you say. Could you share a script which would tab-indent the different levels? I imagine that it would not change, no matter which program I end up using, right? Thanks. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yves Leurquin" Domingo, > You mean manual replace? That's what I am trying to avoid. I want > automatic replace. > I have the 2002 version (and the personal version), which produces outlines > in the format you mention, but without the TABS. No, I mean automatic replace through regular expression using TextPad or similar application i.e. replace all digit followed by a dot by 3 spaces ([0-9][.] -> " " ) \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:15:46 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On this subject, can Dr-DOS be installed on a logical drive, in an extended partition (drive E)? I am having a bear of a time trying to do that. TIA Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:11:19 -0400 Reply-To: jmusielewicz@earthlink.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:15:46 -0400 > Reply-To: Domingo > From: Domingo > Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > > On this subject, can Dr-DOS be installed on a logical drive, in an extended > partition (drive E)? I am having a bear of a time trying to do that. > Yes it can. I have installed it over laplink remote network drives. You just have to change the directory when you install. However it won't boot unless you use a differant boot manager than loader. Loader will only boot it from the first partition on the first bootable drive- drive c. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:14:27 +1200 Reply-To: Stephen Irons Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephen Irons Organization: Tait Electronics Ltd Subject: Re: Text convertion question MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The Gnuish project has ports of Gnu utilities to MSDOS. They are generally older, smaller versions, but run on pre-386 machines. I have used them on an old 8086 with 512K RAM and CGA. I have never run them on the HP[12]00, though I do not see why they would not work. You can find a description and the files at http://www.simtel.net/pub/gnuish/ The Gnu text utilities (textutils) include many programs to operate on ... text files. 'expand' and 'unexpand' convert tabs to spaces and vice versa. gawk is a good language for processing text files line by line, searching for a reg-exp and operating on lines that match, then sending output to another file. The Gnuish utilities also include such things as RCS, perl, make and so on; they all help make it a better development environment. Has anyone ever tried these on the palmtop? Stephen Irons Christchurch, New Zealand Note: I have been a long-time lurker on this list. I don't have a HP palmtop, but I do use an clunky old 8086 laptop with 512K RAM and CGA video as a terminal emulator, and for controlling various things. SUPER is a fertile source of applications to run on the old clunker. Domingo wrote: > Hmm, I didn't think of that. I just searched for Texpad, and it looks > good, but do you know of a freeware alternative? > I have used regular expressions in their simplest forms, so I am not > familiar with something as complicated as what you say. > Could you share a script which would tab-indent the different levels? I > imagine that it would not change, no matter which program I end up using, > right? > > Thanks. > > Domingo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yves Leurquin" > > Domingo, > > > You mean manual replace? That's what I am trying to avoid. I want > > automatic replace. > > I have the 2002 version (and the personal version), which produces > outlines > > in the format you mention, but without the TABS. > > No, I mean automatic replace through regular expression using TextPad or > similar application i.e. replace all digit followed by a dot by 3 spaces > ([0-9][.] -> " " ) > > \/ > /ves > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:42:23 -0500 Reply-To: Curtis Cameron Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Cameron Organization: None Subject: Re: Hplx and Winxp Comments: To: Martin Bergvill In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 05:05:31 -0700 Martin Bergvill wrote: >Question is if you can get the Connectivity pack to ork under Windows >XP. Instead of the connectivity pack, I use W32Filer, available from www.palmtop.net, for transfers. It makes the PC (anything from plain DOS to WinXP) emulate Filer in server mode, so you work on the LX to transfer files. The connectivity pack's LX-looking applications work fine on WinXP, and the transfer might too, but I haven't tried it. -- Curtis Cameron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:22:26 +0200 Reply-To: Vagner Martin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Vagner Martin Subject: 40MHz HP200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there Please can (know) you anyone modify the clkup32.sys driver to 40MHz ? Thank you for advice. Martin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:57:41 +0200 Reply-To: xmarc@free.fr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marc BERLIOUX Subject: Re: HP 95LX Comments: To: Eduardo Dantas Correia In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Lundi 16 Septembre 2002 14:26, Eduardo Dantas Correia a =E9crit : > Hello everybody ! > > I have an HP 95LX, and I'd like using it with my Windows 2000 and perha= ps > with Linux(is it possible?). Under Linux it works with a special version of LXtools i tuned last year. you can find it on palmtop.net. If you have any problem, do write me dire= ctly bye > > I have the Transfilwin2000 version 1.03, but it doesn't execute in Wind= ows > 2000. Are there any new version about it ? --=20 Marc BERLIOUX -- M.C.S.E - Minesweeper Consultant & Solitaire Expert - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:43:56 +0200 Reply-To: Dzon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dzon Subject: Re: GSM Siemens M(T)50 (OT?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I've got Vissio, windoze program for communication with this GSM. It offers nice feature: remote control, i.e. I can control my GSM via standard keyboard and watch phone display. It could be helpful to make 200LX a 'remote keyboard' for that Siemens. 1/ Does something like that already exist? 2/ Does anybody know about some docs useful for creating that? 3/ Is it possible to 'listen' what is the program with the phone talking about? :) -- -Dzon dzon@softhome.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:09:53 +0200 Reply-To: Matthias Paul Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Matthias Paul Organization: Aachen University of Technology (RWTH), Germany Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2002-09-18, "Domingo" wrote: > On this subject, can Dr-DOS be installed on a logical drive, in an > extended partition (drive E)? I am having a bear of a time trying > to do that. No. You can install DR-DOS 7.02 (only!) on other harddisks than unit 80h, but it still needs to be a primary DOS partition (MS-DOS/ PC DOS as well as DR-DOS issues prior and after 7.02 do not allow this). However, this limitation only applies to the kernel files IBMBIO.COM and IBMDOS.COM. The other files can be stored anywhere where you like. Greetings, Matthias --=20 ; http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html; http://mpaul.drdos.org "Programs are poems for computers." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:54:50 -0400 Reply-To: Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Further proof HP's going down the tubes . . . Comments: To: HP Omnibook List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just got a mailing on close-outs from HPShopping.com. These include the HP-12C, HP-48GX, HP-49, the serial cable for the HP-48/49 (last I looked it was the same as the HP-100LX/HP-200LX cable with an adapter to fit the HP-48/49/95LX) ($33) I don't know for sure that they're planning on dropping these from the Hpaq line-up, but it sure looks likely. I've always said the big winner out of the merger will be Palm! Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) OB900b/W2KP, OB4150b/W2KP, OB800/W98, OB800/W95-Mandrake8 - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:24:08 -0700 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Psion5x (was HPLX with Backlight, Mouse and Acrobat reader) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:43:34 +0200, David Becher wrote: > I have played with the psion and found some more pros: Hi My Father has (had) a Psion 5MX but he broke the screen. Does anyone know of anybody that has these in stock? (The whole machine not only the screen) I need to buy him a couple so he has one in backup for the next time he breaks the screen. (He need the sync with the pc and I do not have the time to support him if I give him a Hp200LX) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:31:18 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: Further proof HP's going down the tubes . . . In-Reply-To: <00cc01c25f23$f9b3f610$ed09a8c0@daisydog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Jon Barrett wrote: > I just got a mailing on close-outs from HPShopping.com. These include the > HP-12C, HP-48GX, HP-49, the serial cable for the HP-48/49 (last I looked > it was the same as the HP-100LX/HP-200LX cable with an adapter to fit the > HP-48/49/95LX) ($33) I don't know for sure that they're planning on Thanks for the link, I'll check for an HP12C. Beware of the cable if you want to use an HP49. The cable for the HP100/200 is *not* the same as the cable for the HP49. If you try to use your HP100/200 cable with your HP49, you're probably electrically damage your HP49. The reason is that on the HP100/200, some of the pins have standard RS232 assignments (hardware flow control, Ring detect, and all that stuff), whereas on the HP49, these pins go to the video circuitry, for example to be able to use the HP49 with a videoprojector. -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:44:44 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: Further proof HP's going down the tubes . . . In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Erwann ABALEA wrote: > that stuff), whereas on the HP49, these pins go to the video circuitry, Most of these pins *come from* the video circuitry, which is embedded in the Saturn CPU... -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:24:08 -0700 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Psion5x (was HPLX with Backlight, Mouse and Acrobat reader) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:43:34 +0200, David Becher wrote: > I have played with the psion and found some more pros: Hi My Father has (had) a Psion 5MX but he broke the screen. Does anyone know of anybody that has these in stock? (The whole machine not only the screen) I need to buy him a couple so he has one in backup for the next time he breaks the screen. (He need the sync with the pc and I do not have the time to support him if I give him a Hp200LX) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:22:26 +0200 Reply-To: Vagner Martin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Vagner Martin Subject: 40MHz HP200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there Please can (know) you anyone modify the clkup32.sys driver to 40MHz ? Thank you for advice. Martin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 19:48:44 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hi Al > > 16h44m ago Al Kind wrote: > > > I am willing to change the line limit on posts if there is a consensus to do > > so. Please send me your suggestions, and I will acquiesce to the majority. I see very little on the list that cannot be said in the current line limit. Most of the extraordinarly long EXTRAORDINARILY LONG posts are FLUFF. The rare long post can be split my most users. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 19:48:37 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) Comments: To: Michel Bel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry" > > Yes, I know 50 of you will now speak up and tell me about all the > > wonderful experiences you've had with ghostview or ghostscript. > > Well, used it for about 4 years now...no problems yet - and I have some > unstable systems.... > I use it to convert PDF pages to .PCX to view on the LX with LXPIC.... > > Michel And I've used Ghostscript coupled with freepdf and some other module to create pdf files. I actually reinstalled it this weekend on my new xp system and was able to produce living color pdf files with some of my hiking shots. Now, that said, the files are pretty damn large! So, Barry, it must be the bad karma of living in a state where so many have lost their lives to the death penalty (okay, start the shooting....) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:57:13 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Kaufman" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) > > So, Barry, it must be the bad karma of living in a state where so many > have lost their lives to the death penalty (okay, start the > shooting....) I wonder if that's the reason? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:01:43 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Further proof HP's going down the tubes . . . In-Reply-To: <00cc01c25f23$f9b3f610$ed09a8c0@daisydog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:54:50 -0400 Jon Barrett a =E9crit: > These include the HP-12C.... 21 years of production for a calculator, I don't think the record will be surpassed (BTW, does it is in the Guinness Books of Records ? If not, we should make some lobbying to make it enter into the next issue...) Last, if I remember, the HP12C is even oldest than Compaq... We could say that the son has killed the father... :-( Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:44:28 -0400 Reply-To: DVEST1@cfl.rr.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: FLUFF-HUMOR-Latest HP Merger In-Reply-To: <20020918235342.76EF.JBELIN@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I received this from a friend and thought you all (well, most of you all) might enjoy this. Palo Alto, CA (Reuters) Only months after merging with Compaq, the New HP, looking to expand into new markets and consolidate its position in the high-tech service sector, unveiled plans for the acquisition of Kevorkian Inc., the nation's leading euthanasia specialist, on Thursday. The stock-and-cash transaction is valued at over 1.6 billion dollars, after which the mercy death provider will become a wholly-owned subsidiary of HP. At the press conference, HP CEO Carleton "Carly" Fiorina hailed the deal as a "great leap forward," an affirmation of her company's intent to remain a leader in the brave new corporate world of the 21st century. "We've come to realized that our customers don't want technology per se. They want solutions. It's not enough for us to improve the productivity of their workforce, we also have to help them take care of those workers who've become unproductive or redundant." "Acquisition of Kevorkian will enable us to deliver end-to-end solutions that maximize the return on Corporate America's human capital." Fiorina's counterpart, Dr. Jack Kevorkian, echoed her sentiments, describing the deal as a "symbiosis." HP officials anticipate an annual saving of 2 billion dollars resulting from the acquisition, mainly through cuts in employee benefits. Starting next year the company will no longer offer medical insurance or pension plans to its workers. Instead, those who are too sick or too old to work will be placed into a "state of special retirement." Officials are also expecting an immediate boost to the company's cash-flow, once it has reassigned the 17,000 workers slated to be lay off post-merger to a "better destination." While skepticism greeted the HP-Compaq merger proposal last fall, reactions on Wall Street to Thursday's announcement have been largely positive. "There's zero overlap in what the companies do. One makes computers; the other kills people. I see a lot of room for synergy here," explained Joe Mengele, bio-tech analyst at Deutsche Asset Management. "Kevorkian will help them clear out the dead woods at HP, while HP's expertise with information technology will enhance the scope and efficiency of Kevorkian's operation. It's truly a match made in heaven." Mengele also cited Carly Fiorina's steadfast leadership and uncommon vision as reasons for optimism. Critics of HP management, however, question whether euthanasia is compatible with the company's corporate culture, long known in Silicon Valley as the "HP Way." They also worry the practice of exterminating employees might adversely affect morale. "I must emphatically reiterate that Bill and Dave never developed a premeditated business strategy that treated HP employees as expendable," said David W. Packard, son of HP's late founder. Shares of Hewlett-Packard (HPQ) and Kevorkian Inc. (KILL) rose on Friday morning trading. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 21:16:20 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Dos HTML viewer Comments: To: "Svagr, Radek" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Svagr, Radek" To: Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 7:35 AM Subject: Re: Dos HTML viewer > Arachne is working on 200lx - it already has a CGA support. > But the status bar will take 1/2 of the screen due to not > optimized icons etc. and it is extremely slow on DS 200LX. > Even on Olivetti Quderno33 (386/20) is still too slow. I was > using it fewyears ago on 386DX/40 with 8MB RAM. On this > machine the speed was acceptable. I just tried Arachne on the laptop and it's just way too slow. Also too complicated just to view some documentation while I'm programming. It would be distracting. This is a 25 mhz 486sl and I've got more than their optimum ram. Even at 25 mhz it's slower than I want but on batteries, which it normally is when I'm using it, the cpu slows down to less than half that speed to conserve power and then arachne is way too slow. I can turn that feature off but this thing gets 6 to 8 hours on a charge and I don't want to lose that. It doesn't take much. I guess I was hoping for something like HV that does 640x480 and all the pictures. I'm using list now, but I can't include the diagrams. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 19:57:27 -0700 Reply-To: "Martin G. Ramirez" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Martin G. Ramirez" Subject: Sparcom SmartDock PrintStation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed LXers, I recently acquired one of these items from Thaddeus, but without documentation or software. Would anyone who has a PrintStation be willing to share copies of the docs & disk? If so, let me know offline. Thanks, Martin G. Ramirez ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 02:05:50 -0400 Reply-To: N Knight Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: N Knight Subject: Re: FLUFF-HUMOR-Latest HP Merger Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Dennis Vest >Palo Alto, CA (Reuters) Only months after merging with Compaq, the New >HP, looking to expand into new markets and consolidate its position in >the high-tech service sector, unveiled plans for the acquisition of >Kevorkian Inc., the nation's leading euthanasia specialist, on >Thursday. Not too far fetched.....IMHO we are this close to not needing Kevorkian, that we will have HMOs to do it for him. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 02:05:50 -0400 Reply-To: N Knight Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: N Knight Subject: Re: FLUFF-HUMOR-Latest HP Merger Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Dennis Vest >Palo Alto, CA (Reuters) Only months after merging with Compaq, the New >HP, looking to expand into new markets and consolidate its position in >the high-tech service sector, unveiled plans for the acquisition of >Kevorkian Inc., the nation's leading euthanasia specialist, on >Thursday. Not too far fetched.....IMHO we are this close to not needing Kevorkian, that we will have HMOs to do it for him. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:31:18 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: Further proof HP's going down the tubes . . . In-Reply-To: <00cc01c25f23$f9b3f610$ed09a8c0@daisydog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Jon Barrett wrote: > I just got a mailing on close-outs from HPShopping.com. These include the > HP-12C, HP-48GX, HP-49, the serial cable for the HP-48/49 (last I looked > it was the same as the HP-100LX/HP-200LX cable with an adapter to fit the > HP-48/49/95LX) ($33) I don't know for sure that they're planning on Thanks for the link, I'll check for an HP12C. Beware of the cable if you want to use an HP49. The cable for the HP100/200 is *not* the same as the cable for the HP49. If you try to use your HP100/200 cable with your HP49, you're probably electrically damage your HP49. The reason is that on the HP100/200, some of the pins have standard RS232 assignments (hardware flow control, Ring detect, and all that stuff), whereas on the HP49, these pins go to the video circuitry, for example to be able to use the HP49 with a videoprojector. -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:22:02 +0200 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Word Perfect 5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On a flea market, I got the following for .25 $ or Euro, as I thought it might be of interest to some. "The Best Book of Word Perfect 5.1 (compatible with version 5.0) By Alfieri & Blodgett. Hayden Books Best Seller. 822 pages. It can be yours for postage (Shipping from Belgium) + a beer if we ever meet! First come, first served. Etienne ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 19:48:44 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hi Al > > 16h44m ago Al Kind wrote: > > > I am willing to change the line limit on posts if there is a consensus to do > > so. Please send me your suggestions, and I will acquiesce to the majority. I see very little on the list that cannot be said in the current line limit. Most of the extraordinarly long EXTRAORDINARILY LONG posts are FLUFF. The rare long post can be split my most users. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 19:48:37 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: To: Michel Bel From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry" > > Yes, I know 50 of you will now speak up and tell me about all the > > wonderful experiences you've had with ghostview or ghostscript. > > Well, used it for about 4 years now...no problems yet - and I have some > unstable systems.... > I use it to convert PDF pages to .PCX to view on the LX with LXPIC.... > > Michel And I've used Ghostscript coupled with freepdf and some other module to create pdf files. I actually reinstalled it this weekend on my new xp system and was able to produce living color pdf files with some of my hiking shots. Now, that said, the files are pretty damn large! So, Barry, it must be the bad karma of living in a state where so many have lost their lives to the death penalty (okay, start the shooting....) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:57:13 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET From: Barry Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Kaufman" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Dos HTML or PDF viewer (preferably HTML) > > So, Barry, it must be the bad karma of living in a state where so many > have lost their lives to the death penalty (okay, start the > shooting....) I wonder if that's the reason? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:51:16 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Dos HTML viewer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Barry 06h04m ago Barry wrote: > I guess I was hoping for something like HV that does 640x480 and > all the pictures. I'm using list now, but I can't include the > diagrams. Have you tried an early version of Internet Explorer with Windows 3.1? I hav no experience about speed and so on, but it might be a solution... GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:01:02 -0600 Reply-To: Donald Puscher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Donald Puscher Subject: Re: New gdbload Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Folks, I truly am database challenged. The problem was that my text file had the following line A Second Browser's Dictionary, John Ciardi, Writing, , , , , which should have been A Second Browser's Dictionary, John Ciardi, Writing, , ,,, That is, no spaces between the commas for the dates. Thanks to David for his wonderful program! Don >Has anyone used David Becher's new gdbload 1.03 yet? > >I'm trying to load some info into an existing database > > "&Title","&Author","&Subject","A&vailability","&Publisher","Sta&rt","&Fini","&Notes" > A Second Browser's Dictionary, John Ciardi, Writing, , , , , > >using this command > > gdbload -a read.gdb add.txt > >but I keep getting this error message > > gdbdump(1): is not a valid date > >The docs say "Date and time fields may also be left blank, i.e., nothing between the commas." That doesn't seem to work. If I put in a date, say 19930815 from the docs, it works fine. I've also tried quoting everything, but that doesn't help. > >Is it user error or a bug? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:40:07 -0600 Reply-To: alaskan@TELUSPLANET.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Davis Bacon Subject: Daily Prayer 2002 version Comments: To: s_cusatr@telusplanet.net, virago@itg.uiuc.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Copied from a slashdot.org posting. Daily Prayer 2002 version Our Father, who 0wnz heaven, j00 r0ck! May all 0ur base someday be belong to you! May j00 0wn earth just like j00 0wn heaven. Give us this day our warez, mp3z, and pr0n through a phat pipe. And cut us some slack when we act like n00b lamerz, just as we teach n00bz when they act lame on us. Please don't give us root access on some poor d00d'z box when we're too pissed off to think about what's right and wrong, and if you could keep the f3i off our backs, we'd appreciate it. For j00 0wn r00t on all our b0x3n 4ever and ever, 4m3n Daily Prayer from 1611 Our father which art in heauen, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth as it is in heauen. Giue us this day our daily bread. And forgiue us our debts as we forgiue our debters. And lead us not into temptation, but deliuer us from euill. Amen. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:43:01 -0400 Reply-To: "eD\\/\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "eD\\/\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Subject: FLUFF: Re: Daily Prayer 2002 version MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BLASPHEMY!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Davis Bacon" To: Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: Daily Prayer 2002 version Copied from a slashdot.org posting. Daily Prayer 2002 version Our Father, who 0wnz heaven, j00 r0ck! May all 0ur base someday be belong to you! May j00 0wn earth just like j00 0wn heaven. Give us this day our warez, mp3z, and pr0n through a phat pipe. And cut us some slack when we act like n00b lamerz, just as we teach n00bz when they act lame on us. Please don't give us root access on some poor d00d'z box when we're too pissed off to think about what's right and wrong, and if you could keep the f3i off our backs, we'd appreciate it. For j00 0wn r00t on all our b0x3n 4ever and ever, 4m3n Daily Prayer from 1611 Our father which art in heauen, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth as it is in heauen. Giue us this day our daily bread. And forgiue us our debts as we forgiue our debters. And lead us not into temptation, but deliuer us from euill. Amen. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:16:59 -0300 Reply-To: Eduardo Dantas Correia Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eduardo Dantas Correia Subject: type of archives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, folks, (sorry for my bad english): HP95 LX use : phone = ABK not PDB (GBWIN) note= TXT not NDB (GBWIN) database = PBK not GDB (GBWIN) thats correct ? how can i use this software? thanks Eduardo Dantas Correia Brasil ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:01:43 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Further proof HP's going down the tubes . . . In-Reply-To: <00cc01c25f23$f9b3f610$ed09a8c0@daisydog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:54:50 -0400 Jon Barrett a =E9crit: > These include the HP-12C.... 21 years of production for a calculator, I don't think the record will be surpassed (BTW, does it is in the Guinness Books of Records ? If not, we should make some lobbying to make it enter into the next issue...) Last, if I remember, the HP12C is even oldest than Compaq... We could say that the son has killed the father... :-( Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:37:21 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Double posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been getting a number of double posts today. The following is only = the latest. Anybody else having this problem? Bob -----Original Message----- From: Jacques Belin [mailto:jbelin@ALTERN.ORG] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:02 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Further proof HP's going down the tubes . . . Le Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:54:50 -0400 Jon Barrett a =E9crit: > These include the HP-12C.... 21 years of production for a calculator, I don't think the record will be surpassed (BTW, does it is in the Guinness Books of Records ? If = not, we should make some lobbying to make it enter into the next issue...) Last, if I remember, the HP12C is even oldest than Compaq... We could say that the son has killed the father... :-( Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:48:09 -0300 Reply-To: Carlos Izzo Videla Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Carlos Izzo Videla Subject: Re: Double posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all: >From: "Feldman, Robert" >Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:37:21 -0600 >Subject: Double posts >I've been getting a number of double posts ... >Anybody else having this problem? Yes ... I have been getting double posts too. No idea why. Cheers. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:04:24 -0700 Reply-To: fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank McConnell Subject: Re: Double posts In-Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert"'s message of "Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:37:21 -0600" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Robert Feldman wrote: > I've been getting a number of double posts today. The following is only the > latest. Anybody else having this problem? Yes. galamonitor.galactica.it is re-submitting received posts back through the list server, which dutifully distributes them again. I've no idea why, but am thinking it did this a couple or three weeks ago. Sample message(s) with headers are available if someone would find 'em helpful in getting this turned off. -Frank McConnell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:44:28 -0400 Reply-To: DVEST1@cfl.rr.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: FLUFF-HUMOR-Latest HP Merger In-Reply-To: <20020918235342.76EF.JBELIN@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I received this from a friend and thought you all (well, most of you all) might enjoy this. Palo Alto, CA (Reuters) Only months after merging with Compaq, the New HP, looking to expand into new markets and consolidate its position in the high-tech service sector, unveiled plans for the acquisition of Kevorkian Inc., the nation's leading euthanasia specialist, on Thursday. The stock-and-cash transaction is valued at over 1.6 billion dollars, after which the mercy death provider will become a wholly-owned subsidiary of HP. At the press conference, HP CEO Carleton "Carly" Fiorina hailed the deal as a "great leap forward," an affirmation of her company's intent to remain a leader in the brave new corporate world of the 21st century. "We've come to realized that our customers don't want technology per se. They want solutions. It's not enough for us to improve the productivity of their workforce, we also have to help them take care of those workers who've become unproductive or redundant." "Acquisition of Kevorkian will enable us to deliver end-to-end solutions that maximize the return on Corporate America's human capital." Fiorina's counterpart, Dr. Jack Kevorkian, echoed her sentiments, describing the deal as a "symbiosis." HP officials anticipate an annual saving of 2 billion dollars resulting from the acquisition, mainly through cuts in employee benefits. Starting next year the company will no longer offer medical insurance or pension plans to its workers. Instead, those who are too sick or too old to work will be placed into a "state of special retirement." Officials are also expecting an immediate boost to the company's cash-flow, once it has reassigned the 17,000 workers slated to be lay off post-merger to a "better destination." While skepticism greeted the HP-Compaq merger proposal last fall, reactions on Wall Street to Thursday's announcement have been largely positive. "There's zero overlap in what the companies do. One makes computers; the other kills people. I see a lot of room for synergy here," explained Joe Mengele, bio-tech analyst at Deutsche Asset Management. "Kevorkian will help them clear out the dead woods at HP, while HP's expertise with information technology will enhance the scope and efficiency of Kevorkian's operation. It's truly a match made in heaven." Mengele also cited Carly Fiorina's steadfast leadership and uncommon vision as reasons for optimism. Critics of HP management, however, question whether euthanasia is compatible with the company's corporate culture, long known in Silicon Valley as the "HP Way." They also worry the practice of exterminating employees might adversely affect morale. "I must emphatically reiterate that Bill and Dave never developed a premeditated business strategy that treated HP employees as expendable," said David W. Packard, son of HP's late founder. Shares of Hewlett-Packard (HPQ) and Kevorkian Inc. (KILL) rose on Friday morning trading. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:30:04 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: ADMIN: Line limits on posts Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20020918194844.YZHJ5139.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@worldne t.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I agree with both parts. The second part is esp. true: If a post is really long, the "rejection" serves as a reminder. I experienced it before and reconsidered parts of the long post and cut them out. Surprisingly the post's value was not diminished. But if the material is simply too extensive, I'd like to have an easy way to split it - and right now it is unclear to me how the server counts lines. My preference would be to send it to Al K. at full length and have him post it (presumably Al K. is not limited by post length.) (I am sure and expect that if posters abuse Al K and send too many long posts, that avenue will be blocked.) Avi At 9/18/02-02:48 PM, Fred Kaufman you wrote: >I see very little on the list that cannot be said in the current line >limit. Most of the extraordinarly long EXTRAORDINARILY LONG posts are >FLUFF. > >The rare long post can be split my most users. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 00:06:41 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Further proof HP's going down the tubes . . . In-Reply-To: <00cc01c25f23$f9b3f610$ed09a8c0@daisydog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:54:50 -0400 Jon Barrett a =E9crit: > I just got a mailing on close-outs from HPShopping.com.=20 BTW, it would be interestingto know if HP will continue to support and repair these products during the next five years after the close-out, as it was the general policy in the past... For information, there is currently a debate in another mailing list about the fact that HP don't even repair anymore the HP912 digital camera, which was discontinuated about one year ago.... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 18:13:35 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Dos HTML viewer Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Dos HTML viewer >> I guess I was hoping for something like HV that does 640x480 and >> all the pictures. I'm using list now, but I can't include the >> diagrams. > > Have you tried an early version of Internet Explorer with Windows 3.1? > I hav no experience about speed and so on, but it might be a > solution... I don't want to use Win 3.1. I'm doing this stuff in Dos as an antidote to all my windows exposure :) I use helppc all the time by getting a dos shell from the editor and typing HELPPC Keyword. That's much faster than using the tsr version. It's clean and simple and I don't really have to think about it. I can even automate it within qedit but it's fast enough this way. I want to be able to do the same thing with some reference stuff and especially some tutorials that have pictures and diagrams. But if it's not very fast and simple I'll just make text files of them and do without the diagrams. I would like to have them though. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:23:23 -0700 Reply-To: joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Buford Subject: OT-Integrated, palm type, computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am looking for links to small computers, 486 and above that might be used as a basis for an updated 200lx. Any and all help appreciated Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 20:25:46 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: FLUFF: test MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- +----------------------------------------------+ | Saturday, 2002-09-21 8:23 PM +1200 (NZT) | +----------------------------------------------+ -- -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD #15 PIT BULLDOG FOR SALE: Eats anything. Loves children. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:07:10 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: OT:translation please MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Excuse me for a translation question. what means: someone has lost his marbles? I can translate it but it makes no sense to me. There is probably a meaning "between the lines" TIA, Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at Homepage: SMS:<+436646340014@text.mobilkom.at> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:45:56 -0600 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? MIME-Version: 1.0 I haven't used Nettamer since 97. I downloaded it to check it out since I need a news reader for dos. I downloaded the 386 version. Wow- the broswer was really cool. It really kind of blew my socks off after looking at the drab common interface of IE and Netscape. It was really easy to set up and use too. Is anyone using the HPLX version? John Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Test Drive ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 12:53:20 -0400 Reply-To: bnj@myrealbox.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: OT:translation please Comments: To: furlan@gmx.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Subject: OT:translation please Excuse me for a translation question. what means: someone has lost his marbles? **************************************** Werner: It is a way of saying that someone has lost his sanity. It is normally use= d in jest rather than as an honest comment. It might be used to say that= someone had done something very stupid for example. Equivalant statements commonly used: He is "one brick short of a load" His "elevator doesn't go all the way up" There are many other phrases that are in use. Most of them usually imply t= hat all parts of the whole are not present. Hope this is useful, bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 19:00:19 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: OT:translation please MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Werner 01h51m ago Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > what means: someone has lost his marbles? > I can translate it but it makes no sense to me. There is probably a > meaning "between the lines" I think it means something like "Er hat nicht mehr alle Tassen im Schrank", that is, he is mad or crazy. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:39:36 -0400 Reply-To: John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: OT-Integrated, palm type, computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Joe, > I am looking for links to small computers, 486 and above that might be used > as a basis for an updated 200lx. > > Any and all help appreciated The following was posted a while back. If you search that site you'll find some fascinating documentation on related projects that were completed in the past and which ones were never started or completed. There is one talented list member who purchased a Nokia 9110 and decided to continue at least some of the unfinished work. I, for one, am rather anxious to hear what he has accomplished. I would be interested in your impressions of the Nokia 9110 as a possible replacement for the HPLX, Joe. :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan >Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:58:59 +1000 >From: Tim Pitman >Subject: Possible LX replacement? > >While looking on the internet, I stumbled across some information about >running DOS on the Nokia 9110. > >This machine seems a fair replacement for the LX: >486 CPU >640 * 200 backlit screen >QWERTY keyboard >MMC memory card slot >Cheap to obtain second hand > >Anyway, this site has more information: >http://www.dchapman.com/freeware/dos9k/index.html --- ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 20:08:10 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: OT translation question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi all, thanks for the translation. Now I found all my marbles. cheers, Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at Homepage: SMS:<+436646340014@text.mobilkom.at> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 11:00:46 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- 04h47m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > I haven't used Nettamer since 97. Since 96 here. Ah, seeing a "X-Mailer: Net-Tamer" brings back memories :) > I downloaded it to check it out since I need a news reader > for dos. Should be fine for that, and e-mail. > I downloaded the 386 version. Wow- the broswer was really > cool. Really! It must have improved - does it suit your needs? > It really kind of blew my socks off after looking at the > drab common interface of IE and Netscape. I remember the presentation being quite unique! :) > It was really easy to set up > and use too. Is anyone using the HPLX version? There are a few folk here using it I think. It's hard to tell from the headers as I don't think it usually does an "X-mailer:". The last one I used was version 1.08. I think I preferred the XT version on the palmtop though. I did try 1.11 once, but it seemed to be less usable/readable than 1.08. I've seen the FAQ on alt.comp.shareware.nettamer - last updated Jan 1999, but still a work of art. I always liked those nettamer taglines :) Hehe, maybe I'll re-join Uncle Dave's e-mail list. -- -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 19:30:41 -0500 Reply-To: "David R. Birch" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "David R. Birch" Subject: Re: OT:translation please Comments: To: furlan@gmx.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ungefahr, "ganz bei Sinnen". David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 19:05:19 -0700 Reply-To: David Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Subject: FTPS bug? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello everyone, I searched the archives about this question, but couldn't find any solutions there. So I'm hoping some kind soul on this list will help me out.. I recently setup my Accton ethernet card, and have it hooked up to my laptop running Windows XP. 1st question: Has anyone figured out why a PUT command truncates files, when running FTPS.exe on the 200LX as the ftp server? Is there a fix for this? 2nd question: Has anyone successfully mapped the LX as a drive on Windows XP? How is this accomplished? TIA! David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:09:08 -0500 Reply-To: Daniel Turner Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Turner Subject: Re: FTPS bug? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, I'm new to the list, and although there will be many questions I can't answer, I thought I'd give this one a shot... > 1st question: Has anyone figured out why a PUT command > truncates files, when running FTPS.exe on the 200LX as the > ftp server? Is there a fix for this? What kind of file are you uploading? If it is a binary (.com, .exe, .zip, etc) you have to tell the server to expect a binary file. Normaly, all you need is "binary", and the server should reply with "Type set to I" or something like that. You can upload text files in binary mode also. If you were to look at the contents of c:\autoexec.bat you would find that the very last char is ^Z (also code ASCII 26). In DOS this marks the end of a text file, i.e. when autoexec.bat is executed (or uploaded on an FTP server) command.com reads the file one line at a time..and stops when it finds ^Z. In a binary file there may be many ^Z 's, and you have to tell the FTP software to not stop sending when it finds ^Z (it uses another method to find the end of a file, but I don't remember what it is..) Hopefully this helps... > 2nd question: Has anyone successfully mapped the LX as a drive > on Windows XP? How is this accomplished? > I was just reading about this very thing.... http://www.wown.info/j_helmig/dosclnt3.htm http://www.wown.info/j_helmig/Dosservr.htm But I am unsure if any of that will work, I think the MSDOS Network Client needs a 386 (it may be that just the TCP stack needs a 386) Good luck! -Daniel Turner Still waiting to receive my three 200lx's 1mb, one 100lx 1mb, and 1 100lx 2mb from ebay.... then I'll be a happy HPLX owner! :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 13:08:35 +0200 Reply-To: Josef Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Josef Meyer Subject: Re: FTPS bug? Comments: To: David MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David wrote: > 1st question: Has anyone figured out why a PUT command > truncates files, when running FTPS.exe on the 200LX as the > ftp server? Is there a fix for this? I reported this problem 2 years ago to Avi, but he could not reproduce it (PUT command truncates the last fraction of 512 bytes). I used a Socket NIC on the LX and WinNT4 / Solaris6 as client. No solution found yet. Josef ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 07:46:48 -0700 Reply-To: David Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Subject: Re: FTPS bug? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel, > What kind of file are you uploading? If it is a binary (.com, .exe, .zip, > etc) you have to tell the server to expect a binary file. Normaly, all you Actually, I've tried transferring files in both modes for both types of files (ie, text file in both ascii and binary modes, and binary file in both ascii and binary modes). Same result in all four scenarios, where the file gets truncated at the end. > I was just reading about this very thing.... > http://www.wown.info/j_helmig/dosclnt3.htm > http://www.wown.info/j_helmig/Dosservr.htm I will definitely check these sites and hopefully it'll provide a way around the ftps bug. Thanks! David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 08:30:48 -0700 Reply-To: David Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Subject: FTP server program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi folks, In continuation of trying to find a reliable file transfer program over my ethernet connection and Windows XP, I'm going to try and use my LX as the ftp client and my laptop as the host. Does anyone know of any free ftp server programs out there that'll run on WIndows XP? Anyone have any tips on this? Thanks! David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:10:41 -0700 Reply-To: Michael Kopplin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Kopplin Subject: Re: FTP server program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, David wrote: > In continuation of trying to find a reliable file transfer > program over my ethernet connection and Windows XP, I'm going > to try and use my LX as the ftp client and my laptop as the > host. Does anyone know of any free ftp server programs out there > that'll run on WIndows XP? Anyone have any tips on this? If you still want to try a server running on the LX, LXTELNET in the LXTCP package functions as an ftp server. I've used this a lot and never had problems with it. http://lxtcp.hplx.net/ Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 11:54:10 -0600 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? Comments: To: th@PARADISE.NET.NZ MIME-Version: 1.0 On 2002-09-22 th@PARADISE.NET.NZ said: >-- >04h47m ago John Musielewicz wrote: >> I haven't used Nettamer since 97. >Since 96 here. Ah, seeing a "X-Mailer: Net-Tamer" brings >back memories :) Its really cool. Much better than back in the old days. Much nicer running it on a computer with a color screen. >> I downloaded it to check it out since I need a news reader >> for dos. >Should be fine for that, and e-mail. It is giving me a problem retrieving news. It keeps giving me a syntax error when nettamer sends my username in the authentication process. Working great on email and web though. I'm going to register it this time. >> I downloaded the 386 version. Wow- the broswer was really >> cool. >Really! It must have improved - does it suit your needs? >> It really kind of blew my socks off after looking at the >> drab common interface of IE and Netscape. >I remember the presentation being quite unique! :) >> It was really easy to set up >> and use too. Is anyone using the HPLX version? >There are a few folk here using it I think. It's hard to tell >from the headers as I don't think it usually does an >"X-mailer:". The last one I used was version 1.08. I think I >preferred the XT version on the palmtop though. I did try 1.11 >once, but it seemed to be less usable/readable than 1.08. I've >seen the FAQ on alt.comp.shareware.nettamer - last updated Jan >1999, but still a work of art. >I always liked those nettamer taglines :) >Hehe, maybe I'll re-join Uncle Dave's e-mail list. Excellant idea:)!! >-- >-Tony John Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Test Drive ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:49:21 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: PANIC! PE's outline mode kills file! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sun, 22.09.02 7:43 PM +0200 Hi friends, fortunately I had a backup file, so no data is lost. But a few minutes, until I found the backup file, I thought I'd get a heart attack! I was working on a very important and large mindpap in MM/LX, wanted to edit it with PE, choose menu/external/open in editor, then switched on PE's outline mdoe (Esc-o), then hided all notes (Esc-* 3). Then (to make it short I leave out some details) I hit esc twice to exit PE, but I didn't want to exit actually, so when it asked in the save dialog "switch off outlint mode or save as seen", I hit esc once more to leave the dialog and get back to the file. But guess what? It "SAVED as seen".... !! :-(( Thank god PE created a backup file first. Is there any way around that odd behaviour? For example switching on/off some warnings with the clog config entry or something like that? I like ESC to be used to leave a dialog WITHOUT any additional action, let alone such dangerous action! Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 14:21:18 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Cell Phone to HP200 via IR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, I wonder if anyone is using the HP100/200LX to manage the phone book in their cell phones, ie add and edit entries and backups. I find it very tedious to do any data entry on the phone itself not to mention having to reenter everything when I change phones for whatever reason. It would seem perfect to make a subset of my HP phonebook of numbers I wanted on the cell phone and squirt it over to the cell phone via the IR port every so often. I found a couple of programs for windows that let you manipulate the phone book on the cell phone and let you transfer it back and forth via the IR port but I would really like to do this on the HP if possible. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:12:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: PCMCIA to Everything adapter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi all Has anyone used the PCMCIA to SmartMedia, Secure Digital, MultiMediaCard, Memory Stick adapter here: http://www.verbatim.com.au/Hardware/pccard/adapters.html Interesting. Could use any media type in the HP with this and a CF adapter. David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 14:03:06 -0600 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Cell Phone to HP200 via IR Comments: To: ltachna@ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 On 2002-09-22 ltachna@ATT.NET said: >Hi All, >I wonder if anyone is using the HP100/200LX to manage the phone >book in their cell phones, ie add and edit entries and backups. I >find it very tedious to do any data entry on the phone itself not >to mention having to reenter everything when I change phones for >whatever reason. It would seem perfect to make a subset of my HP >phonebook of numbers I wanted on the cell phone and squirt it over >to the cell phone via the IR port every so often. I found a couple >of programs for windows that let you manipulate the phone book on >the cell phone and let you transfer it back and forth via the IR >port but I would really like to do this on the HP if possible. I was going to do that with my Startac but Motorola would tell me the at commands to access the phonebook and I never had time to figure them out on my own. John Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Test Drive ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:16:56 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Cell Phone to HP200 via IR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Larry 01h49m ago Larry Tachna wrote: > I wonder if anyone is using the HP100/200LX to manage the phone book in > their cell phones, ie add and edit entries and backups. I find it very > tedious to do any data entry on the phone itself not to mention having to > reenter everything when I change phones for whatever reason. It would seem > perfect to make a subset of my HP phonebook of numbers I wanted on the cell > phone and squirt it over to the cell phone via the IR port every so often. I > found a couple of programs for windows that let you manipulate the phone > book on the cell phone and let you transfer it back and forth via the IR > port but I would really like to do this on the HP if possible. What I do is manage all my contact information only in the 200LX's phone book and then distribute it to all the other places I need it. For example to Post/LX, to my REX-3 and - as you asked for - to my cell phone. What you need for that is (everything on SUPER): GDBIO PDB2PHN (in the PDB2X package) WWW/LX for the IR transfer Robot/LX for PHONE.SCR, which does the AT command exchange However, this setup may not work withh all kinds of cell phones. It works with my Ericsson T39m and it worked with the Siemens S35. If you need details, let me know. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:50:14 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- 02h15m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > On 2002-09-22 th@PARADISE.NET.NZ said: > >-- > >04h47m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > >> I haven't used Nettamer since 97. Ahha, I remember now Nettamer wastes no space with quoting :) And, the indenting - it comes back to me now. It was my first e-mail client and I used it solidly for a year. > It is giving me a problem retrieving news. It keeps > giving me a syntax error when nettamer sends my username > in the authentication process. Working great on email > and web though. I'm going to register it this time. That should work. If the NNTP login/password is different to the email one than you need a USENET.NFO file with one line containing username|Password -- -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:50:18 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: PANIC! PE's outline mode kills file! In-Reply-To: <200209221749.g8MHnLh26374@mail2.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- 02h43m ago Daniel Hertrich wrote: > (Esc-* 3). Then (to make it short I leave out some details) > I hit esc twice to exit PE, but I didn't want to exit > actually, so when it asked in the save dialog "switch off > outlint mode or save as seen", I hit esc once more to leave > the dialog and get back to the file. But guess what? It > "SAVED as seen".... !! > :-(( Here I cannot get to that outline save dialog just by pressing ESC. I have to *explicitly choose* "Save" first, and then the options you mention are offered, and then there is no escape. At the first dialogue with the "Save" option, escape is possible. > Thank god PE created a backup file first. Yup! :) > Is there any way around that odd behaviour? For example > switching on/off some warnings with the clog config entry > or something like that? Not AFAIK. -- -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:47:15 +1200 Reply-To: Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: OT:translation please MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Daniel wrote: >I think it means something like "Er hat nicht mehr alle Tassen im >Schrank", that is, he is mad or crazy. "He has no longer all the cups in his cupboard" - I love it! Thanks Daniel. Cheers, Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 14:00:14 -0700 Reply-To: David Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Subject: Re: FTP server program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for the tip, Mike. I'll probably try it soon enough, but I found a ftp server program for my XP and am enjoying my 50Kbps connection! :) David > If you still want to try a server running on the LX, LXTELNET in > the LXTCP package functions as an ftp server. I've used this a > lot and never had problems with it. > > http://lxtcp.hplx.net/ > > Mike > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 14:17:57 -0700 Reply-To: David Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Subject: SSH Client MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Got another network question for you experts out there :) I know there has been a lot of discussion on SSH clients, but I still have not been able to figure out how to configure it on my LX. I've been trying to use SSHDOS, but not sure what I'm supposed to configure. I know I'm supposed to use DOSPPP as a packet driver, but couldn't figure out how to configure that as well. Can anyone give a step-by-step approach to this program? (I am currently using DHCP over my ethernet connection, and have WWWLX) Thanks! David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:25:31 -0600 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? Comments: To: th@PARADISE.NET.NZ MIME-Version: 1.0 On 2002-09-23 th@PARADISE.NET.NZ said: >-- >02h15m ago John Musielewicz wrote: >> On 2002-09-22 th@PARADISE.NET.NZ said: >> >-- >> >04h47m ago John Musielewicz wrote: >> >> I haven't used Nettamer since 97. >Ahha, I remember now Nettamer wastes no space with quoting :) >And, the indenting - it comes back to me now. It was my first >e-mail client and I used it solidly for a year. >> It is giving me a problem retrieving news. It keeps >> giving me a syntax error when nettamer sends my username >> in the authentication process. Working great on email >> and web though. I'm going to register it this time. >That should work. If the NNTP login/password is different to >the email one than you need a USENET.NFO file with one line >containing username|Password Its a problem with earthlink. Net-Tamer sends a MODE READER command to the server and the server doesn't understand it so it doesn't send the user/password info. >-- >-Tony >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Test Drive ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:27:30 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- 22m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > On 2002-09-23 th@PARADISE.NET.NZ said: > >-- > >02h15m ago John Musielewicz wrote: [...] > >> It is giving me a problem retrieving news. It keeps > >> giving me a syntax error when nettamer sends my > >> username in the authentication process. Working > >> great on email and web though. I'm going to > >> register it this time. > >That should work. If the NNTP login/password is different > >to the email one than you need a USENET.NFO file with > >one line containing username|Password > Its a problem with earthlink. Net-Tamer sends a MODE > READER command to the server and the server doesn't > understand it so it doesn't send the user/password info. AFAIK MODE READER is not an NNTP command. Authorization just happens naturally after issuing a GROUP command - the client might send GROUP alt.comp.hp48 - the reply is numbered 211 if the group exists,411 if it doesn't and 480 if authorisation is required, whereupon the client just sends AUTHINFO USER .. and AUTHINFO PASSWORD .. That's what Robonews does, and it works with earthlink. Maybe Net-Tamer does something different. > Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Test Drive Wow you upgraded already :) -- -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:30:51 -0700 Reply-To: dmp24@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David M Peterson Subject: FS: dict/thes card, 100lx very complete, nice. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_67f5.1985.62a4 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_67f5.1985.62a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good day, I just listed the following two items on e-bay for auction: Dictionary card http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2056586327&ssPageName= ADME:B:LC:US:1 100lx http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1383381025&ssPageName= ADME:B:LC:US:1 If you mention that you are a list member and win the bid, I will include either a 10mb PCMCIA flash disk or an lx serial cable. Or something. We can make a deal. The 100lx is nice. David Peterson ----__JNP_000_67f5.1985.62a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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David Peterson
----__JNP_000_67f5.1985.62a4-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:52:13 +0800 Reply-To: leewm@anakin.sgp.hp.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Wee-Meng LEE Subject: dosppp answer In-Reply-To: <20020922.193056.-1844831.5.dmp24@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Someone asked how to configure dosppp and lxtcp. Unfortunately I accidentally deleted it. The magic happens all in the single pppd command. My configuration on an Omnibook 300 with a built in modem is as follows after unzipping the entire package into a single directory: pppd com2 38400 user USER passwd PASS connect " chat '' at&f OK atm0dt9999999 CONNECTSTR" com2 - com port where your modem is connected 38400 - speed of your modem USER - user name of dial up ISP account PASS - password of user of dial up ISP account at&f - resets the Modem OK - response from modem after the at&f command atm0dt999999 - set modem to silent mode and dial; put your ISP number in place of 9999999 CONNECTSTR - replace this with the string that is returned by modem when it connects to ISP (usually it is CONNECT); but for the HP internal modem it returns with PROTCOL: something. Once connected pppd would create a batch file, IP-UP.BAT, containing its current IP, gateway, network mask and peer mru. It would also display something called a "vector" at 0x60. Your PPP layer is now set and ready for other network programs to use. Run the batch file, IP-UP.BAT, so that the environment variables are set. The network programs access the ppp layer through the use of the "vector" number. Each of them also use their own configuration file / environment variables to obtain the dial up IP parameters which u must create each time u dial into the ISP as the parameters change. To do that automatically, I put all those commands in a batch file after the pppd command. eg: for lxtcp, the config file is tcp.cfg. I put all the static information into a file called tcp.org (remember to put in your ISP nameserver, pop, smtp, news server, IP in the file). I then create the dynamic IP information into a seperate file, wattcp.cfg. I then combine tcp.org+wattcp.cfg into tcp.cfg. The final config file that lxtcp suite of programs would use. lxtcp tools now seem happy and can do stuff. The only thing that doesn't work for me is lxtelnet. Somehow it hangs my OB300. I had to use ncsa telnet. dial.bat -------- pppd com2 ..... call ip-up.bat rem create ip config file for lxtcp echo my_ip=%myip% > wattcp.cfg (note single > to create new file) echo netmask=%netmask% >> wattcp.cfg echo gateway=%remip% >> wattcp.cfg copy tcp.org+wattcp.cfg tcp.cfg To terminate the call, run the program termin 0x60 Once u get the hang of dosppp, explore lxtcp. Especially the lxmta command. It would dump mail and news, into text files. Next to try is cclxpop. The files from lxtcp seem to be made for cclxpop that would allow u to use the ccmail program on the LX. There's lots of other programs (uucp based also) that support the output from lxmta and dosppp 0x60 vector which I'm learning myself. Have fun, weemeng ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:34:32 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: PCMCIA to Everything adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Don, nice to hear from you again! 11 weeks 13h21m ago Don E. Weatherly wrote: > Has anyone used the PCMCIA to SmartMedia, Secure Digital, MultiMediaCard, > Memory Stick adapter here: > > http://www.verbatim.com.au/Hardware/pccard/adapters.html no, but Stefan Leichl reported a Sandisk MMC adapter to work in the LX, and someone also used a Sony Memory stick adapter successfully. So there is hope that such a universal adapter would also work. Probably it simply contains an ATA interface and otherwise only slots with pins for the different media types. > David ?? Are you David or Don? :-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:34:31 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: PANIC! PE's outline mode kills file! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Tony 08h32m ago Tony Hutchins wrote: > Here I cannot get to that outline save dialog just by pressing > ESC. I have to *explicitly choose* "Save" first, and then the > options you mention are offered, Yes, I have set that up so Esc-Esc exits. Maybe it's a first step to deactivate that. I know it can be done some way, but I couldn't find it in the hlp or doc file, does anyone know? Is it the clog config entry, which I have currently set to 0? > and then there is no escape. > At the first dialogue with the "Save" option, escape is > possible. Well, but only if the document is either unnamed yet, or you use "save as". If the file has a name already and you use file/save, there is no dialog anymore (except this outline mode dialog of course, if outlining is activated). GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 10:11:03 +0200 Reply-To: Dzon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dzon Subject: serial communication MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello list, I am looking for something, preferably some libraries or howtos, what allows me to talk to my GSM modem [in LX DOS, of course]. What I need: Initialize COM to 19200 n 8 1 -- I can take know-how from Stefan Peichl's setcom1. Talk to modem device via COM: do there exist some libraries or something what allows me to use COM port in interrupt mode? Cannot find anything :( I prefer Borland C, Sphinx C--. Or if you know about some howto, plz drop me a line. Thanks -- -Dzon dzon@softhome.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:30:06 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: PANIC! PE's outline mode kills file! In-Reply-To: <200209230734.g8N7YWh07590@mail2.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- Hi Daniel 45m ago Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Tony > > 08h32m ago Tony Hutchins wrote: > > > Here I cannot get to that outline save dialog just by > > pressing ESC. I have to *explicitly choose* "Save" first, > > and then the options you mention are offered, > > Yes, I have set that up so Esc-Esc exits. Maybe it's a first > step to deactivate that. I know it can be done some way, > but I couldn't find it in the hlp or doc file, does anyone > know? Is it the clog config entry, which I have currently > set to 0? That could be it. I have ;Clog=0 So maybe try the ";" in front (or Clog=1). Cheers, -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:18:44 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: PCMCIA to Everything adapter In-Reply-To: <200209230734.g8N7YXh07598@mail2.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > and someone also used a Sony Memory stick adapter successfully. That was me ;-) > So > there is hope that such a universal adapter would also work. > Probably it simply contains an ATA interface and otherwise > only slots with pins for the different media types. I'm pretty confident that this things works :-) I never thought of a memorystick working in the LX (for the price of the Sony-Adapter there had to be some expensive electronic mumbo-jumbo in it - that's what I thought...). So if SD-, MMC- and Smartmedia-Cards behave like an ATA-device i'm pretty sure it works. regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:34:19 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Lotus 123 printer codes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having now got Version 2.3 of Lotus, I am planning to transfer all my Atari files to it. My Atari spreadsheet being a Lotus clone that should at first glance not prove too difficult. There is one thing though: I have become used to two very nice enhancements. The first is an intermediate format. while Lotus only has the global and the area cell formats, LDW has a column format in between. Seems I'll have to do without, though that is a shame. The second is a bit more serious. Besides the printer init sequence LDW supports two cell highlights, bold and underlined, with configurable on-off sequences, which I regularly use as bold and as double size to make printed sheets more readable. A possible workaround might be to put the sequences into text cells. I have found no way to input though and <@zeichen(27)> yields a space when printed to file either ascii or binary and viewed in hex. So either is not 27 in LICS (has anyone got a LICS table?) or I need to patch the printer driver somehow and use something else e.g. =B6 (244) as placeholder. Has anyone managed to do somthing similar? Danke Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:26:27 -0400 Reply-To: Sales@Systems-Consulting.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Paul Anderson@Systems-Consulting" Subject: Re: Lotus 123 printer codes In-Reply-To: <3D8EFC3B.169BD76C@Nexgo.De> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lotus Print Control Codes are based on the ASCII decimal code for the Character they represent. The codes are entered with a backslash character (\) followed by the ASCII Decimal Code. Example Escape is ASCII 27, The Lotus Code is \027. Note the leading zero. All Lotus Codes are \### in form. Further example: The setup sequence [Ctrl]O [Esc]4, which on an Epson printer turns on compressed print and italics, would be entered as \015\0274. I hope this helps. Thanks, Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:16:11 -0600 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? Comments: To: th@PARADISE.NET.NZ MIME-Version: 1.0 On 2002-09-23 th@PARADISE.NET.NZ said: >-- >22m ago John Musielewicz wrote: >> On 2002-09-23 th@PARADISE.NET.NZ said: >> >-- >> >02h15m ago John Musielewicz wrote: >[...] >> >> It is giving me a problem retrieving news. It keeps >> >> giving me a syntax error when nettamer sends my >> >> username in the authentication process. Working >> >> great on email and web though. I'm going to >> >> register it this time. >> >That should work. If the NNTP login/password is different >> >to the email one than you need a USENET.NFO file with >> >one line containing username|Password >> Its a problem with earthlink. Net-Tamer sends a MODE >> READER command to the server and the server doesn't >> understand it so it doesn't send the user/password info. >AFAIK MODE READER is not an NNTP command. Authorization just >happens naturally after issuing a GROUP command - the client >might send >GROUP alt.comp.hp48 Hmm...the next command is a GROUP command however the server just sends back 480 authentication required. When was the MODE command discontinued? According to Uncle Dave its in the RFC as a nntp server command. >- the reply is numbered 211 if the group exists,411 if it >doesn't and 480 if authorisation is required, whereupon the >client just sends AUTHINFO USER .. and AUTHINFO PASSWORD .. >That's what Robonews does, and it works with earthlink. >Maybe Net-Tamer does something different. >> Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Test Drive >Wow you upgraded already :) Yes..this is the latest version for the pentium processor. The other was for the 386. This is still in beta though. >-- >-Tony >http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: >POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Test Drive ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:58:32 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Lotus 123 printer codes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Paul Anderson@Systems-Consulting" wrote: > Further example: The setup sequence [Ctrl]O [Esc]4, which on an > Epson printer turns on compressed print and italics, would be > entered as \015\0274. > I hope this helps. It doesn't very much actually. I know this is how to enter codes into the printer initialization setup field. But how do I make Lotus send an to the printer in the middle of a page? I just tried something to clear stuff up, this time on the LX: I filled column A with the numbers from 0 to 257, column B with @ZEICHEN(An) and column C with @CODE(Bn). In all cases except 0 and, of course 256 and 257, which yielded errors, the number in A was reproduced in C, so something, if invisible, was there in B. Printing to file as binary and viewing as hex I found that for everything less than 32 only spaces were printed, 32 to 126 sent ASCII as expected and all above sent characters from HP (my selected printer) Roman 8 codepage. A nice feature is how the represent not included characters via ASCII like "TM" ans "(c)". All that did not however help me towards my goal. Danke Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 17:32:40 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: OT-Integrated, palm type, computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit whoops only a reply to the originator :S and here some additional info: this might be an interesting site for you: http://wearables.stanford.edu/ you can also try using the term 'matchbox' (ex. 'matchbox size computer' or something equal) in your googly searches, for those people seem to like it to compare their products to matchboxes... and this was the orinal mail, so the others on the list can enjoy it too: i've been thinking about this too but not anything very usefull came up. However, those new micro-itx boards are very nice, and pretty full featured (sound, vga, tvout, network...). The board size is 17x17cm, would be larger than a 200lx, but maybe it can be turned into something like the ibm pc110. There must be board of more brands, but I only know the Via Epia, you can find it here: http://www.viavpsd.com/product/epia_mini_itx_spec.jsp?motherboardId=21. It's pretty cheap (150 euro's, incl 800mhz processor) There is a low-power version (at lower speed, 300mhz???) but I don't actually know how much power it consumes. It requires an ATX power supply, there are ATX psu's that need only 12volts. With a IDE->CF convertor one can use CF cards, and pcmcia must be possible but that requires a PCI card. It is pretty nice and small but I think it will be too big to get really as portable as a 200lx or pc110. However, portable power is getting closer ;) maybe this inpires you? Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Buford" To: Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:23 PM Subject: OT-Integrated, palm type, computers > I am looking for links to small computers, 486 and above that might be used > as a basis for an updated 200lx. > > Any and all help appreciated > > Joe > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:27:09 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Lotus 123 printer codes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Axel Berger wrote: > All that did not however help me towards my goal. Neither did the following: I have alsolooked at version 2.2 English and the WYSIWYG part of German 2.3. The latter does allow text highlighting of course, but on top of my rather not having to use it, it does so Windows style, not DOS or Atari. By that I mean it offers me a list of printers with hardwired code, nice for the simple of mind, but does not offer me to configure it. The big advantage of that is of course, I can make the driver do what I want, i.e. choose italics (which i dion't need) from the menu but send the double size sequence (which I do) to the printer. Although, as WYSIWYG seems to be even more Windows-like in doing everything in graphics mode anyway and devaluating all the nice fonts etc. in my expensive printer that is a moot point. Always printing to file and replacing the placeholder characters with in an editor would be possible but not at all nice. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:37:49 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Needed - Speed and extended memory drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, it happened! Once again I tried using NiMH batteries in the 200lx that tends to eat them. It had about 25% charge yesterday afternoon and this morning it was DEAD. I cannot locate any of my Times2 drivers so that I can check to see if I've lost the big drive. I've visited the Times2Tech web page and made a request and haven't gotten them. Maybe I'm impatient, but I'm lost without my "brain". Could someone email me a set of the drivers? Thanks, bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:00:50 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Needed - Speed and extended memory drivers Comments: To: albert.kind@uconn.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very Quick! Thanks Al! Don't need another copy friends. Later, bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Kind" To: "Bob Penick" Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 1:48 PM Subject: RE: Needed - Speed and extended memory drivers > > Here you go! Quick enough for you ;-) > > Cheers...Al Kind ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:43:29 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- Hi John Musielewicz 04h16m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > >> Its a problem with earthlink. Net-Tamer sends a MODE > >> READER command to the server and the server doesn't > >> understand it so it doesn't send the user/password info. > >AFAIK MODE READER is not an NNTP command. Authorization just > >happens naturally after issuing a GROUP command - the client > >might send > >GROUP alt.comp.hp48 > > Hmm...the next command is a GROUP command however the server > just sends back 480 authentication required. > > When was the MODE command discontinued? According to Uncle > Dave its in the RFC as a nntp server command. Uncle Dave is, of course, right! I just found MODE READER in the extended NNTP commands. I have never used that. Apparently all it does is tell the server you are a news reading client, and the server *might* reconfigure itself for you to give a better response to news reader commands. It shouldn't matter if Earthlink doesn't understand that command - it will just give an error message, which could possibly be ignored. But you say the next command is GROUP and you get the "480" back so that should be Net-Tamer's queue to send off the login/password. It will work fine with Earthlink. -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:47:58 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Needed - Speed and extended memory drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I learned something new again today. (Some lessons are rough!) Al Kind quickly emailed me a set of Times2 drivers right when I asked for help earlier today. When I installed them on the small C: the memory driver said my big drive was not there and asked to initialize. I cursed and said yes. When it finished I did a dir of the big drive and it said 66M free (approx.) and no files. I was puzzled where the extra memory had gone. I didn't realize right away, but the drivers Al sent were an earlier version than the ones I had been using on my 96M lx. I thought and searched and found where I had emailed Richard Smith a copy of my original drivers several months ago when he was having troubles with his lx. I saved the attachments from the email message to a floppy. Used the laptop to copy them to a flash card, installed them to the small C: and rebooted. The little palmtop booted with my original autoexec.bat and looked OK. I was amazed to say the least! Now I'm finding corrupt files on the lx, but I can fix or replace them. The "durability" of that extra memory is just amazing. And now I know to use the later drivers if I have this problem in the future. I guess they must have something added to work with the 96M expansion that the earlier drivers did not have. Thanks friends, bob PS - Strange, T2T still hasn't emailed me a set of drivers after my request this morning. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:23:06 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- Hi John Musielewicz 07h45m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > On 2002-09-23 th@PARADISE.NET.NZ said: > >-- > >22m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > >> On 2002-09-23 th@PARADISE.NET.NZ said: > >> >-- > >> >02h15m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > >[...] > >> >> It is giving me a problem retrieving news. It > >> >> keeps giving me a syntax error when nettamer > >> >> sends my username in the authentication > >> >> process. Hmm, maybe Earthlink now how some encrypted authentication? They have gone through many phases. 6 months ago I, a non-earthlink memeber, could log in to news.earthlink.net using any arbitrary login/password, via clear text. Maybe they just couldn't get authentication to work properly so they reverted back .. Now I find they restrict usage to folk dialed up through selcted networks: GOT >502 Permission Denied - EarthLink Service restricted to EarthLink member networks - newssupport@EarthLink.Net (Typhoon v1.2.4)< I assume this is how they worked originally - using a sort of dial-up-authentication. Now, in addition to requiring the right dail-up they seem to also require authentication! > When was the MODE command discontinued? According to Uncle > Dave its in the RFC as a nntp server command. I sure got that wrong - yup it is there. I tested it with a few servers. They all seem to respond, but in different ways: This is the most explicit :) news.cis.dfn.de --------------- GOT >200 news.fu-berlin.de welcomes 203-167-167-64.dialup.clear.net.nz (203.167.167.64). Authorization required for reading and posting.< SEND MODE READER GOT >200 You are already in this mode. Ignored.< This indicates they grudgingly implemented a response free.teranews.com ----------------- GOT >200 Welcome 203.167.167.64 cnt 1< SEND MODE READER GOT >200 Are you happy now?< My guess is that MODE READER probably has no effect on the speed/success or otherwise of a session. It is one of the extended commands, and not all news servers will implement it. -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:55:06 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Needed - Speed and extended memory drivers Comments: To: Bob Penick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Penick wrote: > PS - Strange, T2T still hasn't emailed me a set of drivers after my request > this morning. I too recently requested driver updates via T2T's web site and didn't receive any. The same thing happened several months ago; I then wrote T2T an email and they emailed me back with the drivers attached along a comment about the web page being broke and it would be fixed real soon now. Apparently it hasn't. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:34:26 -0600 Reply-To: Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Needed - Speed and extended memory drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all; Maybe we should see about getting the most recent drivers placed on S.U.P.E.R. Otherwise, I don't trust the internet, so I have much of that on my hard drive and would be glad to send them to any one who needs them. On the other hand maybe we could store some on Yahoo Briefcase and distribute the username and password to that? Just a thought... Bob: I'm glad you're problem worked out well... Regards, Richard Smith ---------- NO UCE / NO UBE / NO SPAM / http://www.cauce.org ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:32:09 +0100 Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Svagr, Radek" Subject: ZIP 2.2 -transfer roblem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" I am trying that nice transfer program but I seem to have a problem. When transferring a file I get message. It usually happens with same file after transferring same quantity of kilobytes... File and disks are for sure not damaged and I run it under pure DOSes. On one side HP200LX without sysmgr and other side standart PC (tried more with similar results) also under pure DOS (Caldera DRDOS or the one from W95) I tried 115200 and 57600 conn. speeds. I was using older versions some time ago but that problem was randomly occuring too. Any suggestions? Radek ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 02:15:44 -0500 Reply-To: Daniel Turner Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Turner Subject: Re: PCMCIA to Everything adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just recieved my first 100lx 2mb, and have a few questions. First: I bought the unit on ebay, and paid about usd$60 for it. It was shipped with both an AC and car power adapter. Without thinking, I pluged the AC adapter in, and then into the palmptop...and hit the power switch. Nothing. Confused I looked in the batt compartment..nadda. So I looked at the AC adapter... and although it was 12volts.. it wasn't DC :-( I went and got a few AAs..and the unit powers on fine under batt power, but if I try to connect the car adapter, the screen goes ALL black..and the unit resets (also, the backup batt is dead, I'll replace that tomarrow). I'm sure I blew the DC converter inside, how much is it to repair it? The other question. I have a 128mb CF card that I've used in my iPAQ for almost a year.. after putting the CF card in a CF -> PCMCIA adapter the 100lx doesn't see it.. fdisk100 refused to do anything to it..and format says the card is unsupported. Is it because its a 128meg? or is there something weird about CF? I've used the same setup in my desktop (it has aPCMCIA slot) and windows loads standard EIDE controler drivers. Last question: I am also awaiting a 200lx, being as this is a 100lx 2mb, is there a way I could remove the extra mb from the 100lx and install it in a 200lx? Thanks for your time, -Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" To: Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 5:18 AM Subject: Re: PCMCIA to Everything adapter > > and someone also used a Sony Memory stick adapter successfully. > > That was me ;-) > > So > > there is hope that such a universal adapter would also work. > > Probably it simply contains an ATA interface and otherwise > > only slots with pins for the different media types. > > I'm pretty confident that this things works :-) I never thought of a > memorystick working in the LX (for the price of the Sony-Adapter there > had to be some expensive electronic mumbo-jumbo in it - that's what I > thought...). So if SD-, MMC- and Smartmedia-Cards behave like an > ATA-device i'm pretty sure it works. > > regards, > Oliver > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:56:28 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: OT-Integrated, palm type, computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit and a tiny update... a complete testsystem with the viaC3-1000 processor uses 75watts when it's idle (showing XP desktop) (c't magazine 9, page 44, dutch edition) but there is also a 533mhz which should use less power and it also depends a lot on other components in the system i thought the processor is soldered on the epia board. but there must be others of those small boards around with no processor on board, so you might be able to plug in a transmeta, which are very low power processors... Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niels" To: Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 5:32 PM Subject: Re: OT-Integrated, palm type, computers > whoops only a reply to the originator :S > > and here some additional info: this might be an interesting site for you: > http://wearables.stanford.edu/ > > you can also try using the term 'matchbox' (ex. 'matchbox size computer' or > something equal) in your googly searches, for those people seem to like it > to compare their products to matchboxes... > > and this was the orinal mail, so the others on the list can enjoy it too: > > > i've been thinking about this too but not anything very usefull came up. > However, those new micro-itx boards are very nice, and pretty full featured > (sound, vga, tvout, network...). The board size is 17x17cm, would be larger > than a 200lx, but maybe it can be turned into something like the ibm pc110. > There must be board of more brands, but I only know the Via Epia, you can > find it here: > http://www.viavpsd.com/product/epia_mini_itx_spec.jsp?motherboardId=21. It's > pretty cheap (150 euro's, incl 800mhz processor) There is a low-power > version (at lower speed, 300mhz???) but I don't actually know how much power > it consumes. It requires an ATX power supply, there are ATX psu's that need > only 12volts. With a IDE->CF convertor one can use CF cards, and pcmcia must > be possible but that requires a PCI card. It is pretty nice and small but I > think it will be too big to get really as portable as a 200lx or pc110. > However, portable power is getting closer ;) > > maybe this inpires you? > > Niels > > > [n] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Buford" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:23 PM > Subject: OT-Integrated, palm type, computers > > > > I am looking for links to small computers, 486 and above that might be > used > > as a basis for an updated 200lx. > > > > Any and all help appreciated > > > > Joe > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:43:30 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: PCMCIA to Everything adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Daniel 03h20m ago Daniel Turner wrote: > batt is dead, I'll replace that tomarrow). I'm sure I blew the DC converter > inside, Probably. > how much is it to repair it? AFAIK, Thaddeus (www.palmtoppaper.com) takes 125US$ flat for a repair. However, it might be cheaper to buy a second 100LX and replace the mainboard. But maybe for 100LXs they have lower rates. Hal? > The other question. I have a 128mb CF > card that I've used in my iPAQ for almost a year.. after putting the CF card > in a CF -> PCMCIA adapter the 100lx doesn't see it.. fdisk100 refused to do > anything to it..and format says the card is unsupported. Is it because its a > 128meg? or is there something weird about CF? It is the capacity. The 100LX is more choosy than the 200LX when it comes to large flash (CF) cards. See also http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/200lx/index.shtml#storage You can probably make the card work in the 100LX if you use the "acecard" driver. http://www.palmtop.net and search the SUPER archive for acecard > I am also awaiting a 200lx, being as this is a > 100lx 2mb, is there a way I could remove the extra mb from the 100lx and > install it in a 200lx? Thanks for your time, Maybe. The 100LX is probably 1MB onboard and 1MB on a daughterboard. If the 200LX you get also has a free memory socket, you can put the 1MB into the 200LX. If your 200LX has 1MB, there is no daughterboard yet. In the worst case, you would have to attach a memory socket first, but then you can plug in the 1MB. If it has 2MB, it may have 2MB onboard, then you can expand it to 3MB, but it may also be that it has 1+1MB, so you will not be able to add another 1MB. If it's 4MB, it has 2+2MB, so you could only downgrade it to 3MB ;-) See http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/200lx for info about memory configurations. Good luck daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:43:29 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: ZIP 2.2 -transfer roblem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Radek 03h57m ago Svagr, Radek wrote: > When transferring a file I get message. It usually happens with same > file after transferring same quantity > of kilobytes... File and disks are for sure not damaged and I run it under > pure DOSes. > On one side HP200LX without sysmgr and other side standart PC (tried more > with similar results) also > under pure DOS (Caldera DRDOS or the one from W95) I tried 115200 and 57600 > conn. speeds. 1. both speeds are quite high. 57600 should be possible with double speed, but 38400 is safer. With single speed, 38400 works sometimes, but 19200 is safer. Depends on the quality of handshaking, I think. 2. Do you use a strangely upgraded palmtop? ;-) You problem could be related to timing problems of the port, if you use a quartz crystal not made by T2T. In this case, try very low speeds (2400, 4800, 9600). The error probability will be drastically reduced at low speeds. If the problem still occurs then, the problem might be somewhere else. 3. Try to (pk)zip the file first, then transfer it. This reorders bytes, and if the problem occurs at the same position in the same file, as you write, it may also be a problem related to a certain byte sequence which causes the error, as in the non-bugfixed Transfile200 version. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:08:49 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: PCMCIA to Everything adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oliver W. Leibenguth wrote: > So if SD-, MMC- and Smartmedia-Cards behave like an > ATA-device i'm pretty sure it works. I assume, the problem was the voltage. SD,MMC,SM and MS all use 3 Volt, wheras CF autosenses between 3 and 5 Volt. PCMCIA uses 5 or 12 Volt. The 4 in 1 adapter at least has to convert the voltage to 5 or 12. I think, this also explains, why there is no 5 in 1 adapter incluing CF too apart from the ATA controller, which is built in for CF, but not for the other 4. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:08:48 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: serial communication MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dzon wrote: > Talk to modem device via COM: do there exist some libraries or something > what allows me to use COM port in interrupt mode? Cannot find anything = :( > I prefer Borland C, Sphinx C--. You will find all you need on Daniel's site: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/rs232/uart.txt I once sent him this documentation which includes C and ASM source code for interrupt driven serial communication. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:20:58 -0600 Reply-To: Jeffrey Veiss Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeffrey Veiss Subject: Application Manager Woes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, My palmtop recently went fritzy on me forcing a full battery removal and reinsertion. Upon reboot, everytime I go into the Application Manager, I get the following message: Error in Automatic Add An application is in APNAME.LST but it canot be added because there are no more available application slots. Please delete one or more applications and reenter the App Manager. NOTE: Adding any applications before reentering may lose one or more existing APNAME.LST entries. I've tried deleting some entries and reentering and it keeps giving this message and at the bottom are what I would call some ghost entries of applications already added. I've tried restoring both the APNAME.LST and APPMGR.DAT files from various backups known to work to no avail. I've also tried removing APNAME.LST and only restoring APPMGR.DAT to no avail. Has anyone had a similar issue or have any ideas on how to fix this without completely rebuilding my Application Manager file? Please contact me if there are any further questions via internet mail at hplx@sirveiss.com. Thank you very much! Jeffrey Veiss, CCNA, CISSP, TICSA Sir Veiss, Inc. Network Engineer/System Administrator hplx@sirveiss.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:33:46 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Needed - Speed and extended memory drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard and Patti Smith" > Maybe we should see about getting the most recent drivers placed > on S.U.P.E.R. ******************************************* Richard, I wouldn't mind this BUT I believe the license has wording that would prohibit that. Also, the following statement is one of the text files that come with the drivers. - "THESE PROGRAMS ARE ONLY FOR USE BY TECHSPEED CUSTOMERS, OR BY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN PRIOR CONSENT BY TIMES2 TECH." While I share your concerns about availability of drivers if a company goes under, I also feel the need to support Mack's policy right now. Especially since he has been so supportive of our community over the years. But, if either Times2 goes belly up (hope not) and the drivers were not available any other way, or if they would specifically authorize the posting to S.U.P.E.R., I'd be beating on Daniel's door to get them up. bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:58:22 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Application Manager Woes Comments: To: Jeffrey Veiss In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed There may be more than ONE APNAME.LST. Review them all for bad entries. It is also possible that your APPMGR.DAT is the culprit containing junk, which it then places in APNAME.LST. I would try just renaming these two files wherever you find them and reboot. Whatever you added as applications to the SysMgr menu will be gone, but can easily be reentered manually. You can then compare and see what is what... Good luck! Avi At 9/24/02-09:20 AM, you wrote: >Hi all, > >My palmtop recently went fritzy on me forcing a full battery removal and >reinsertion. > >Upon reboot, everytime I go into the Application Manager, I get the >following message: > > Error in Automatic Add > > An application is in APNAME.LST > but it canot be added because > there are no more available > application slots. Please > delete one or more applications > and reenter the App Manager. > > NOTE: Adding any applications > before reentering may lose one or > more existing APNAME.LST entries. > >I've tried deleting some entries and reentering and it keeps giving this >message and at the bottom are what I would call some ghost entries of >applications already added. > >I've tried restoring both the APNAME.LST and APPMGR.DAT files from >various backups known to work to no avail. > >I've also tried removing APNAME.LST and only restoring APPMGR.DAT to >no avail. > >Has anyone had a similar issue or have any ideas on how to fix this >without completely rebuilding my Application Manager file? > >Please contact me if there are any further questions via internet mail at >hplx@sirveiss.com. Thank you very much! > >Jeffrey Veiss, CCNA, CISSP, TICSA Sir Veiss, Inc. >Network Engineer/System Administrator hplx@sirveiss.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:33:44 -0400 Reply-To: jmusielewicz@earthlink.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:43:29 +1200 > Reply-To: Tony Hutchins > From: Tony Hutchins > Subject: Re: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > > -- > Hi John Musielewicz > > 04h16m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > > > >> Its a problem with earthlink. Net-Tamer sends a MODE > > >> READER command to the server and the server doesn't > > >> understand it so it doesn't send the user/password info. > > >AFAIK MODE READER is not an NNTP command. Authorization just > > >happens naturally after issuing a GROUP command - the client > > >might send > > >GROUP alt.comp.hp48 > > > > Hmm...the next command is a GROUP command however the server > > just sends back 480 authentication required. > > > > When was the MODE command discontinued? According to Uncle > > Dave its in the RFC as a nntp server command. > > Uncle Dave is, of course, right! I just found MODE READER in > the extended NNTP commands. I have never used that. Apparently > all it does is tell the server you are a news reading client, > and the server *might* reconfigure itself for you to give a > better response to news reader commands. It shouldn't matter > if Earthlink doesn't understand that command - it will just > give an error message, which could possibly be ignored. > > But you say the next command is GROUP and you get the "480" > back so that should be Net-Tamer's queue to send off the > login/password. It will work fine with Earthlink. > It should but its not. Its not coming up with the AUTHINFO USER and AUTHINFO PASS so Net-tamer can send them. I am up to the level of communicating with the news network gurus though so maybe I'll find something out. John > -Tony > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:33:51 -0400 Reply-To: jmusielewicz@earthlink.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:23:06 +1200 > Reply-To: Tony Hutchins > From: Tony Hutchins > Subject: Re: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > > -- > Hi John Musielewicz > > 07h45m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > > > On 2002-09-23 th@PARADISE.NET.NZ said: > > >-- > > >22m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > > >> On 2002-09-23 th@PARADISE.NET.NZ said: > > >> >-- > > >> >02h15m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > > >[...] > > >> >> It is giving me a problem retrieving news. It > > >> >> keeps giving me a syntax error when nettamer > > >> >> sends my username in the authentication > > >> >> process. > > Hmm, maybe Earthlink now how some encrypted authentication? > They have gone through many phases. 6 months ago I, a > non-earthlink memeber, could log in to news.earthlink.net > using any arbitrary login/password, via clear text. > Maybe they just couldn't get authentication to work properly > so they reverted back .. > Now I find they restrict usage to folk dialed up through > selcted networks: > > GOT >502 Permission Denied - EarthLink Service restricted to > EarthLink member networks - newssupport@EarthLink.Net (Typhoon > v1.2.4)< > > I assume this is how they worked originally - using a > sort of dial-up-authentication. Its been working great for me for a while now even just dialing in is giving me problems. First a simple pap login doesn't work then they won't authenticate chap finally pap works once I change dial-in phone numbers. Its becoming a big pain in the ass. > > Now, in addition to requiring the right dail-up they seem to > also require authentication! > > > When was the MODE command discontinued? According to Uncle > > Dave its in the RFC as a nntp server command. > > I sure got that wrong - yup it is there. I tested it with a > few servers. They all seem to respond, but in different ways: > > This is the most explicit :) > > news.cis.dfn.de > --------------- > GOT >200 news.fu-berlin.de welcomes > 203-167-167-64.dialup.clear.net.nz (203.167.167.64). > Authorization required for reading and posting.< > SEND MODE READER > GOT >200 You are already in this mode. Ignored.< > > This indicates they grudgingly implemented a response > > free.teranews.com > ----------------- > GOT >200 Welcome 203.167.167.64 cnt 1< > SEND MODE READER > GOT >200 Are you happy now?< > > My guess is that MODE READER probably has no effect on the > speed/success or otherwise of a session. It is one of the > extended commands, and not all news servers will implement it. I think theres something wrong with their script. > > -Tony > http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: > POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:27:36 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Screen flicker on 700lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello y'all I was fiddling a bit with datacom on my 700lx and a desktop acting as a remote server. On the server there is some program installed (winphone) which handles voice, fax and data calls. As far as I tried the voice and fax things work nice. But I did not yet figure out how the data system works, so I dug up my nokia, plugged it into my lx and fired up datacom. Once datacom started, i did a simple atdt and called into my desktop. It picked up nicely and told my I was calling an automated system and that I could send a file (nice! now THAT is handy!). It asked me to pick a protocol, so I said zmodem. Some weird looking stuff came back, looked like some config strings. I did file/protocol/zmodem on the LX, and file/transfer. I picked a random ascii text file from my drive and hit enter. A dialog came up telling me the LX was trying to send the file. While it was trying to do so, my screen flickered.... it went darker (altough not completely dark) and returned to normal quickly. This keeps happening until i press cancel. Sometimes it's just a little, sometimes the screen becomes pretty dark. I don't think it's EMI, for 1) the 700lx is made for datacom with gsm and 2) i've never seen this before, even during longer sessions. This is pretty scary, I mean, I don't like it if my precious hp starts going weird.... Does anyone of you know how this can happen, or what the problem is? has anyone had the same problem? thanks in advance for your comments! Niels [n] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:14:24 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Booting any other version of dos from the 'A:' drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello friends after Ctrl-Alt-Del or Ctrl-LShift-On my lx700 boots up 'press Alt for boot options' comes up on pressing the option to boot from 'A' drive .. it boots up nice if the pcmcia card has the os .. Dos5.0 But if the A: drive (pcmcia) card has Dos6.22 .. it wont boot to dos 6.22 it boots up to dos 5 only also.. unlike desktops .. there is no io.sys or msdos.sys (kernel) files in either the D: drive (the ROM chip which acts like the d: drive ) nor do i find one in the C: drive (the memory area made to work like a C: drive .. nor in the dos5.0 version on a pcmcia so i concluded that the bios of hp200/700 probably has the io.sys and msdos.sys already loaded in them .. that won't allow any other version of Dos to be loaded .. not dos6.22 .. not dos 3.3 either ..because the os searches only for a command.com with the size and version of the dos5 command.com is this correct ? ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:01:25 -0500 Reply-To: Daniel Turner Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Turner Subject: Re: PCMCIA to Everything adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > batt is dead, I'll replace that tomarrow). I'm sure I blew the DC converter > > inside, > > Probably. :-( > > how much is it to repair it? > > AFAIK, Thaddeus (www.palmtoppaper.com) takes 125US$ flat for a repair. > However, it might be cheaper to buy a second 100LX and replace the > mainboard. But maybe for 100LXs they have lower rates. Hal? I think I'll just relegate this unit to only using AAs... I've got 3 other in good condition. > > The other question. I have a 128mb CF > > card that I've used in my iPAQ for almost a year.. after putting the CF card > > in a CF -> PCMCIA adapter the 100lx doesn't see it.. fdisk100 refused to do > > anything to it..and format says the card is unsupported. Is it because its a > > 128meg? or is there something weird about CF? > > It is the capacity. The 100LX is more choosy than the 200LX when it > comes to large flash (CF) cards. See also > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/200lx/index.shtml#storage > You can probably make the card work in the 100LX if you use the > "acecard" driver. http://www.palmtop.net and search the SUPER archive > for acecard AceCard did the trick! Thanks!! Its nice to have 128meg A: :) > > I am also awaiting a 200lx, being as this is a > > 100lx 2mb, is there a way I could remove the extra mb from the 100lx and > > install it in a 200lx? Thanks for your time, > > > Maybe. The 100LX is probably 1MB onboard and 1MB on a daughterboard. > If the 200LX you get also has a free memory socket, you can put the 1MB > into the 200LX. > If your 200LX has 1MB, there is no daughterboard yet. In the worst > case, you would have to attach a memory socket first, but then you can > plug in the 1MB. If it has 2MB, it may have 2MB onboard, then you can > expand it to 3MB, but it may also be that it has 1+1MB, so you will not > be able to add another 1MB. If it's 4MB, it has 2+2MB, so you could > only downgrade it to 3MB ;-) > Thats exactly what I was hoping. Thanks again for all the help! -Daniel T ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:37:04 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Booting any other version of dos from the 'A:' drive Comments: To: Niels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Niels To: pksharma Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:29 AM Subject: Re: Booting any other version of dos from the 'A:' drive > if you boot from your a drive, only config.sys and autoexec.bat from your a > drive are executed hmm .. > > other thing: > > if I press alt and select another boot option, it's only valid for this boot > only. is there a way to make that setting permanent (so I can always boot > from the D drive, even if I have a config.sys on A?) when the alt option is used .. it becomes permanent for all subsequent boots .. so .. if you boot from a drive .. it will read the config.sys of A: drive only for all subsequent boots too ! ..pk > > Niels > > [n] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:21:26 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Powerful HPLX-Clone? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I just discovered this page: http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/mininote.htm Ma Japanese is far from being good but this guy is talking about a 386/25 Palmtop running Post/LX. Check the last two or three pictures on this page. That is (or at least looks like) a n application manager well known to all of us ;-) Is there a Japanese listmember who is willig to translate the page? regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:35:01 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Powerful HPLX-Clone? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" At 245 x 120 x 29.5 mm (9.65 x 4.72 x 1.16 inches), it's far from pocketable. It does use AA batteries, but it is limited to 640x200 CGA. At that size, you might as well get a 486 or 586 with VGA color (if you don't mind the short battery life). -----Original Message----- From: Oliver W. Leibenguth [mailto:Oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE] Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 2:21 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Powerful HPLX-Clone? Hello, I just discovered this page: http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/mininote.htm Ma Japanese is far from being good but this guy is talking about a 386/25 Palmtop running Post/LX. Check the last two or three pictures on this page. That is (or at least looks like) a n application manager well known to all of us ;-) Is there a Japanese listmember who is willig to translate the page? regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 07:46:38 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Nettamer- has anyone noticed how much it's improved? In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- Hi John Musielewicz 03h03m ago John Musielewicz wrote: > It should but its not. Its not coming up with the AUTHINFO USER > and AUTHINFO PASS so Net-tamer can send them. I am up to the > level of communicating with the news network gurus though so > maybe I'll find something out. Earthlink doesn't come up with those,they are client commands. nettamer sends the first and if it gets a 381 sends the second and a 281 indicates success. -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:52:19 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Booting any other version of dos from the 'A:' drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dunno for the 200lx but my 700lx reads this: select default drive option unless changed at this screen, the default drive will be the first of drives a, c, and d found to contain a config.sys file in the root directory. The options below allow control of default drive and startup file proessing. >>> This selection controls this reboot only. <<< seems not to be for every subsequent boot.... and if you have a config.sys on a: of course it will always boot from a, because of the auto selection but if i have a config.sys on a: but want to boot from d, I everytime have to press alt. Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "pksharma" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 9:07 PM Subject: Re: Booting any other version of dos from the 'A:' drive > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Niels > To: pksharma > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:29 AM > Subject: Re: Booting any other version of dos from > the 'A:' drive > > > > if you boot from your a drive, only config.sys > and autoexec.bat from your a > > drive are executed > > hmm .. > > > > > other thing: > > > > if I press alt and select another boot option, > it's only valid for this boot > > only. is there a way to make that setting > permanent (so I can always boot > > from the D drive, even if I have a config.sys on > A?) > > when the alt option is used .. it becomes > permanent for > all subsequent boots .. > > so .. if you boot from a drive .. it will read the > config.sys > of A: drive only for all subsequent boots too ! > > ..pk > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:49:36 -0400 Reply-To: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Subject: Re: Booting any other version of dos from the 'A:' drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "pksharma" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:07 PM Subject: Re: Booting any other version of dos from the 'A:' drive > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Niels > To: pksharma > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:29 AM > Subject: Re: Booting any other version of dos from > the 'A:' drive > > > > if you boot from your a drive, only config.sys > and autoexec.bat from your a > > drive are executed Dos is ALWAYS loaded from ROM. The only difference the alt menu makes is which, if any, startup files to use (config.sys autoexec,bat). The only way to load another OS is thru a boot loader like minix does, although, I think DOS is still in memory when minix boots. Linux has a boot loader called 'loadlin' that really displaces the existing DOS OS. I'm not sure if such a thing is possible on the LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:59:05 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Powerful HPLX-Clone? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...but a 386 with cga is probably cheaper than a 486 with vga... but i'd prefer the latter indeed, for it is idd fairly large! I think a monochrome 640x480 vga would be nice for a 386 at this size to make it interesting. Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feldman, Robert" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 9:35 PM Subject: Re: Powerful HPLX-Clone? > At 245 x 120 x 29.5 mm (9.65 x 4.72 x 1.16 inches), it's far from > pocketable. It does use AA batteries, but it is limited to 640x200 CGA. At > that size, you might as well get a 486 or 586 with VGA color (if you don't > mind the short battery life). > > -----Original Message----- > From: Oliver W. Leibenguth [mailto:Oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE] > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 2:21 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Powerful HPLX-Clone? > > > Hello, > > I just discovered this page: > http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/mininote.htm > > Ma Japanese is far from being good but this guy is talking about a > 386/25 Palmtop running Post/LX. > Check the last two or three pictures on this page. That is (or at > least looks like) a n application manager well known to all of us ;-) > > Is there a Japanese listmember who is willig to translate the page? > > regards, > Oliver > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 22:07:14 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: missing parts for my 700lx/2110 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone, I still have some minor issues with my 700lx/2110 i'm not really happy wi= th at first, the battery cover is loose. I have glued it on the unit (using recharable batteries, this is not really so bad, but a good one would be nicer) second, 2 of the four rubber feed are missing, making the unit wobble a b= it. When I remove the remaining ones, it has no grip, and adding other's (=F8= 5mm) it's fine, but the unit is unstable when i use it with the phone third, the antenna from my 2110 is litte bad, it has a crack at the point= it connects to the phone fourth, the back cover of the phone was a belt clip, of which i removed t= he belt clip so the phone would fit into the 700lx. Since I was not really precise, this looks ugly when you see the back of the phone at last, the battery of the phone is pretty bad, i'm afraid it won't hold for longer than half an hour when connected. I wonder if some of you can help me with these problems? I think the rubb= er feet are the most simple for these should be the same as the 200lx.. but = the other things? well, i hope you know something. Thanks, Niels [n] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:08:28 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Powerful HPLX-Clone? Comments: To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From my experience using & buying non hp old palmtops, plus extensive reading, the hp200lx is the only one which has reasonable support for large cards (256meg without a driver). Many of those choke with anything larger than 20megs (I think the Prolinear chokes at 80megs). I still have a Poqet Pc plus laying around which is like the MiniNote in many ways, plus it is the only one with a backlight (unlike the MiniNote). It chokes with cards larger than 20megs. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:21 PM Subject: Powerful HPLX-Clone? > Hello, > > I just discovered this page: > http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/mininote.htm > > Ma Japanese is far from being good but this guy is talking about a > 386/25 Palmtop running Post/LX. > Check the last two or three pictures on this page. That is (or at > least looks like) a n application manager well known to all of us ;-) > > Is there a Japanese listmember who is willig to translate the page? > > regards, > Oliver > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:29:30 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Powerful HPLX-Clone? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The Poqet PC Plus can use larger _SanDisk_ cards. Al Wong was able to use cards of at least 110MB. See http://www.olagrande.net/~webguy/service/poqet.html#Useful -----Original Message----- From: Domingo [mailto:dvm123@GMX.CO.UK] Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:08 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Powerful HPLX-Clone? I still have a Poqet Pc plus laying around which is like the MiniNote in many ways, plus it is the only one with a backlight (unlike the MiniNote). It chokes with cards larger than 20megs. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:44:39 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Powerful HPLX-Clone? Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I bought a Poqet Plus several years ago after believing that web site, only to find it is not true. The main company in California selling them warned about this (California Digital), but I went ahead on the basis of the web site you quote. The problem is that the machine will correctly format a large flash card, as Al Wong informs us, and does a correct chkdsk report, but will not read or write any files past the 20meg boundary. I wrote Al Wong about it and he never replied. I think he has moved on to other things, since his web site has not been updated for a long time (2000). As I said, I still have the actual machine. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feldman, Robert" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Powerful HPLX-Clone? > The Poqet PC Plus can use larger _SanDisk_ cards. Al Wong was able to use > cards of at least 110MB. > See http://www.olagrande.net/~webguy/service/poqet.html#Useful > > -----Original Message----- > From: Domingo [mailto:dvm123@GMX.CO.UK] > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:08 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: Powerful HPLX-Clone? > > > I still have a Poqet > Pc plus laying around which is like the MiniNote in many ways, plus it is > the only one with a backlight (unlike the MiniNote). It chokes with cards > larger than 20megs. > > Domingo > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:53:29 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Powerful HPLX-Clone? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OK. I was unaware that the information was not correct. I have a Poqet Prime (PQ-0181), which cannot use Flash cards at all (only SRAM), so I have never tried larger cards myself. Your original point, that these other "subnotebooks" generally are not as well implemented as the LX's, is a good one. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Domingo [mailto:dvm123@gmx.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:45 PM To: Feldman, Robert; HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Re: Powerful HPLX-Clone? I bought a Poqet Plus several years ago after believing that web site, only to find it is not true. The main company in California selling them warned about this (California Digital), but I went ahead on the basis of the web site you quote. The problem is that the machine will correctly format a large flash card, as Al Wong informs us, and does a correct chkdsk report, but will not read or write any files past the 20meg boundary. I wrote Al Wong about it and he never replied. I think he has moved on to other things, since his web site has not been updated for a long time (2000). As I said, I still have the actual machine. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feldman, Robert" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Powerful HPLX-Clone? > The Poqet PC Plus can use larger _SanDisk_ cards. Al Wong was able to use > cards of at least 110MB. > See http://www.olagrande.net/~webguy/service/poqet.html#Useful > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 22:54:24 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: Powerful HPLX-Clone? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > At 245 x 120 x 29.5 mm (9.65 x 4.72 x 1.16 inches), it's far from > pocketable. I didn't realize that it's that big. It looked pocket-sized on the pictures. regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:04:42 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: HP 95LX vs HP Omnigo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I have been looking around ebay for a palmtop for one of my daughters, and I have my eye on the two above machines. I have a general idea about the 95lx, less so about the Omnigo, but enough to make me think the software selection is about par for the screen size of both. What I would like is comments for an against bidding on one versus the other. The HP 200LX is of course the best one, but ebay prices reflect that fact. All thoughts appreciated. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:15:09 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: HP 95LX vs HP Omnigo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How about an HP 100LX? The recent eBay selling prices have been between $50 and $90. A big point for the 100LX is that it has a full 640x200 CGA screen, which the 95LX doesn't. -----Original Message----- From: Domingo [mailto:dvm123@GMX.CO.UK] Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 4:05 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: HP 95LX vs HP Omnigo Hi. I have been looking around ebay for a palmtop for one of my daughters, and I have my eye on the two above machines. I have a general idea about the 95lx, less so about the Omnigo, but enough to make me think the software selection is about par for the screen size of both. What I would like is comments for an against bidding on one versus the other. The HP 200LX is of course the best one, but ebay prices reflect that fact. All thoughts appreciated. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:25:02 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: HP 95LX vs HP Omnigo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Domingo" > What I would like is > comments for an against bidding on one versus the other. ******************************************** Domingo, I'd stay far from the Omnigo for someone to use daily. It doesn't have any way to connect an ac adapter and if the batteries die the memory goes quickly. (Like what happened to me yesterday.) bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:55:06 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: PCMCIA to Everything adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Actually in certain cases I believe 100LX's are harder to work on, and in any case parts more scarce, so same rates. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:00:02 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Needed - Speed and extended memory drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> I'm checking with Mack if he minds them being posted on SUPER ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:26:22 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: missing parts for my 700lx/2110 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Niels wrote: > third, the antenna from my 2110 is litte bad > at last, the battery of the phone is pretty bad, Both can be found here: http://www.reichelt.de/ > fourth, the back cover of the phone was a belt clip, of which i removed the > belt clip so the phone would fit into the 700lx. You vandal! Those belt knob covers are getting rare, though I have still got a good supply. I have cut holes into the covers of all my three 700s to accomodate them. I might make myself send an original cover if you ask nicely. A spare battery cover for the 700 is something I'd like myself, one of my is missing a key. It still fits firmly but with the extra load of the extended arm ... Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:32:33 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: HP 95LX vs HP Omnigo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Domingo wrote: > Hi. I have been looking around ebay for a palmtop for one > of my daughters, and I have my eye on the two above machines. > The HP 200LX is of course the best one, but ebay prices > reflect that fact. Being a daughter in .uk is she into SMS as heavily as most seem to be? If so (and also if not so) I recommend the 700. It is bulkier, no doubt, but offers a lot more and sold for very far less. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:40:05 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: missing parts for my 700lx/2110 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger > A spare battery cover for the 700 is something I'd like myself, one of > my is missing a key. It still fits firmly but with the extra load of the > extended arm ... ****************************************** Axel, When you find a source for the battery cover for a 700 , see if you can get me an IR / backup battery cover. I've been using a 200 IR cover. It fits in the grooves tightly and nothing falls out, but it doesn't look quite right. bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:17:03 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: HP 95LX vs HP Omnigo Comments: To: Niels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niels" > what omnigo are you talking about? > > if it's a 700lx it's a 200lx with newer rom, more apps, and a craddle for a > nokia phone. The downside is that it is LARGE > I don't know about the ealier omnigo's.. they seem to be very specific > machines Sorry, I meant the early ones. The 700lx is a high priced item. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:31:07 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: HP 95LX vs HP Omnigo Comments: To: Bob Penick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Penick" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Domingo" > > > What I would like is > > comments for an against bidding on one versus the other. > ******************************************** > Domingo, > I'd stay far from the Omnigo for someone to use daily. It doesn't have any > way to connect an ac adapter and if the batteries die the memory goes > quickly. (Like what happened to me yesterday.) Hmm, good info, thanks. But then, why do you use it? Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:46:18 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: HP 95LX vs HP Omnigo Comments: To: Axel Berger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" > Domingo wrote: > > Hi. I have been looking around ebay for a palmtop for one > > of my daughters, and I have my eye on the two above machines. > > The HP 200LX is of course the best one, but ebay prices > > reflect that fact. > > Being a daughter in .uk is she into SMS as heavily as most seem to be? > If so (and also if not so) I recommend the 700. It is bulkier, no doubt, > but offers a lot more and sold for very far less. > There are none currently or in recent ebay auction history, but thanks for the suggestion. I imagine they are not cheap. A concern I have is the ability of the 95lx to run DOS programs successfully, specially considering the screen. Thanks. Domingo P.S. It's funny, I live in the USA, with a British email address from a Dutch company (gmx). :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:53:27 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: HP 95LX vs HP Omnigo Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, now she wants a Palm! But they are not low enough yet on ebay, plus I think the hp machines are more durable against a somewhat careless kid. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feldman, Robert" > How about an HP 100LX? The recent eBay selling prices have been between $50 > and $90. A big point for the 100LX is that it has a full 640x200 CGA screen, > which the 95LX doesn't. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Domingo [mailto:dvm123@GMX.CO.UK] > Hi. I have been looking around ebay for a palmtop for one of my daughters, > and I have my eye on the two above machines. I have a general idea about > the 95lx, less so about the Omnigo, but enough to make me think the software > selection is about par for the screen size of both. What I would like is > comments for an against bidding on one versus the other. The HP 200LX is > of course the best one, but ebay prices reflect that fact. > > All thoughts appreciated. > > Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 23:46:09 -0400 Reply-To: bnj@myrealbox.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: HP 95LX vs HP Omnigo Comments: To: dvm123@GMX.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: Domingo Hmm, good info, thanks. But then, why do you use it? Domingo ******************************* Sorry I wasn't clear. My 200lx happens to be one that "eats" batteries. I had a set of NiMH in t= hem last week. On Sunday afternoon they showed 25% charge. Monday morni= ng the palmtop was dead. I seem to do this to myself about every other y= ear. I guess I'm still just grumbling about my problems. I did have an Omnigo 120 that I purchased mainly as a collectable. It seem= ed like everytime I pulled it out, it was dead. (Probably not as bad as = I remember, but enough to really irritate me.) Later, bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:05:35 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Fw: Poqet PC .. Touchscreen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: pksharma To: Feldman, Robert Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:05 AM Subject: Poqet PC .. Touchscreen > good points made here .. california > digital is still offering these .. but costs > are too much $160 +/- as far as i can > remember > > ONE feature not mentioned by anyone > here which makes it sooo easy to use > is the touchscreen .. it can't be appreciated > untill its actually used .. my son uses an > hplx320 (B&W) with winCe2.x .. and > refuses to replace it with anything else > .. it uses normal pencil batteries .. lasts > for ever .. bad point is no other os can > be used > > but in poquet .. dos can be used .. > > ..pk > > (does this mininote use touchscreen ?) > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:56:08 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Fw: Poqet PC .. Touchscreen In-Reply-To: <005b01c2644c$fe927b60$d901000a@q20> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, pksharma wrote: > ONE feature not mentioned by anyone here which makes it sooo easy to > use is the touchscreen .. it can't be appreciated untill its actually > used .. That's funny. I absolutely despise touchscreens as the only method of mouse input, at least on palmtops with keyboards. Touchscreens force you to take your hands off the keyboard, grab the stylus, and tap around on the screen just to move the cursor to a specific location. I would vastly prefer it if the 320LX or Jornada 680/720 had a trackpoint in the keyboard in addition to the touchscreen. But I guess HP and other keyboarded palmtop manufacturers never thought that users would do long sessions of typing on their products ... Pocket Word proves that. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:57:24 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Fw: Poqet PC .. Touchscreen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Butler Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:26 AM > That's funny. I absolutely despise touchscreens as the only method of > mouse input, at least on palmtops with keyboards. its not the ONLY method .. poquet would accept a normal mouse too ! > Touchscreens force you > to take your hands off the keyboard, grab the stylus, and tap around on > the screen just to move the cursor to a specific location. hmm .. this is quite right .. not a help for just moving a cursor .. but it has other uses too ..but are great for making freehand drawings and 'signing' some documents .. just like a pen .. i know of NO OTHER way of getting your signature on the document except tablet mouse pads (wacom) or scanning and editing and cutting and pasting .. terrible ! there is one strange thing .. i find my wife writes letters in hindi script using stylus in paintbrush (there's a painbrush for dos, remember ?) .. and i compress the .bmp file .. gives such an absurdly small zip file .. which is smaller than an email too ! .. this is attached to a one word email .. and my sister in new york loves to read the 'personal' femail to female email ;-D > I would vastly > prefer it if the 320LX or Jornada 680/720 had a trackpoint in the keyboard > in addition to the touchscreen. actually it depends on user and his uses ! i find the touch pad .. where you use a finger sliding on a glass sensing plate .. very convenient .. and a trackball with a LARGE ball also very convenient .. so is the thumblina mouse which sold in 40% discount some time back .. i also find the logitech trackman very good .. yet i tend to agree with ian .. the trackpoint is great .. i look forward to a small device based on that tech .. like the one on a watch computer .. a small 1.5 mm dia and 1.5 mm height track point which moves in all the directions .. and has to be pressed down to register a mouseclick .. it had to be used to enter data in the watch computer's phone book by clicking on the letters on an onscreen virtual keybd ! > But I guess HP and other keyboarded > palmtop manufacturers never thought that users would do long sessions of > typing on their products ... Pocket Word proves that. This is really pathetic .. if only .. the keyboards were like a folding keyboard (palm and psion have introduced ones which can be folded into 1/4 th the normal size) .. we would have a full sized keyboard for ten finger typing .. till then we would have to be using only two fingers for sloooow typing .. and an external keybd like the apple one or fiddler old model .. which work thru the com1 port ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 09:32:27 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Needed - Speed and extended memory drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Bob and others 16h52m ago Bob Penick wrote: > I wouldn't mind this BUT I believe the license has wording that would > prohibit that. Also, the following statement is one of the text files that > come with the drivers. - "THESE PROGRAMS ARE ONLY FOR USE BY TECHSPEED > CUSTOMERS, OR BY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN PRIOR CONSENT BY TIMES2 TECH." I have agreed with Mack that the drivers can be put on SUPER. Next SUPER update will contain them. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:22:45 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Easter Eggs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe you already know these, I didn't so i'd share them with you ;) they come from http://www.upl.cs.wisc.edu/~orn/tech/hpeasteregg.html here's a copy/paste from the page: 200LX Easter Eggs Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:35:47 -0400 From: Bruce Martin Subject: HP Easter Eggs, for FAQ Q. What "easter eggs" are hidden in the ROM of the 200LX? A. 1.. A poem in the Self Test. With the palmtop off, press [ESC][ON] to start the Self Test, then cursor down to the Display setting. Press [ENTER] 14 times to step through the various screens until you come to a screen of example text in the form of a fanciful poem. (This is not as well-hidden as the other easter eggs that follow.) 2.. Another poem in the Self Test. With the palmtop off, press [ESC][ON] to start the Self Test, then cursor down to the Display setting. Press [CTRL][ENTER]. Then hold down [ALT] while pressing [ENTER] 13 times. You will see a cryptic poem, apparently relating business issues faced by the software development team. 3.. Yet another poem in the Self Test. With the palmtop off, press [ESC][ON] to start the Self Test, then cursor down to the Display setting. Press [CTRL][ENTER]. Then hold down [SHIFT] while pressing [ENTER] 13 times. You will see an allegorical poem about the history and future of the 200LX. (Hint: the prototype names for the 95LX, 100LX and 200LX are Jaguar, Cougar and Felix respectively.) 4.. Pictures of the software development team in the Lair of Squid game. Start Lair of Squid. From the opening screen, before starting a game, type "gallery". You are transported to a secret corridor. On the walls, a couple of paces ahead, you will see portraits of the 200LX software development team (step all the way forward then turn to the side to see each head-on). In the last position on the wall is a sign with a message from the team. Pass through the door at the far end, and you will be transported back to the game's opening screen. 5.. System Manager program data in More Applications. Press the blue [&...] key to start More Applications. Hold down [ALT] while pressing [F9] 4 times followed by [F10] once. As long as you continue to hold [ALT] you will see columns of data about .exm programs registered to SysMgr, along with other arcane information. (This is more likely a debugging tool than an easter egg, but it is handy for finding the hex keycodes of programs, and other tidbits.) -------------------- Bruce, Toronto the first poem I already knew, as most of you do (i think) but the others are pretty funny as well! have fun, Niels [n] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:59:49 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: missing parts for my 700lx/2110 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:26 AM Subject: Re: missing parts for my 700lx/2110 > Niels wrote: > > third, the antenna from my 2110 is litte bad > > at last, the battery of the phone is pretty bad, > > Both can be found here: > http://www.reichelt.de/ wow thanks... and it isn't even as expensive as I feared (antenna + battery = E24,20) but I think sending it would be quite expensive, and international payment is also quite expensive (or has that changed with the Euro?) Well, I go figure it out > > > fourth, the back cover of the phone was a belt clip, of which i removed the > > belt clip so the phone would fit into the 700lx. > > You vandal! Those belt knob covers are getting rare, though I have still > got a good supply. I have cut holes into the covers of all my three 700s > to accomodate them. I might make myself send an original cover if you > ask nicely. Whoops! Sorry then... erm...did you really cut holes in your 700lx? why do I not believe you??? ;) Hmm.. i still have the belt clip to hang the phone in, if you're interested. And if you really have a spare cover, it'd be very nice of you to send me one... > > A spare battery cover for the 700 is something I'd like myself, one of > my is missing a key. It still fits firmly but with the extra load of the > extended arm ... mine is missing both 'keys' (if you mean those things that snaps into the lx on the sides of the cover)... very lose. > > Axel > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > thanks axel! Niels ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:03:47 +0800 Reply-To: JIMMY TAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JIMMY TAN Subject: International Date & Time Format MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody, Can anyone please tell me how to set my 200LX to display date & time in this format? YY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS Any help would be great. Thanks in advance. Jimmy. ************************************************************************** This message is intended only for the use of ther person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is priviledged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, review, disclosure or copying of this message and the information it contains is prohibited. If you receive the message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and discard all its contents. Thank You. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:51:32 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: Easter Eggs In-Reply-To: <000901c2646d$019c0450$060210ac@tommy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 4.. Pictures of the software development team in the Lair of Squid game. > Start Lair of Squid. From the opening screen, before starting a game, type > "gallery". Does anybody know how to trigger this egg on a german machine? regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:57:50 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: International Date & Time Format MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit more menu (&...), goto setup (S), Time/Dy (F2), there you can find the available option. Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "JIMMY TAN" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:03 AM Subject: International Date & Time Format > Hi everybody, > > Can anyone please tell me how to set my 200LX to display date & time in this > format? > > YY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS > > Any help would be great. > > > Thanks in advance. > > Jimmy. > ************************************************************************** > This message is intended only for the use of ther person(s) to > whom it is addressed and may contain information that is > priviledged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are > not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, > review, disclosure or copying of this message and the information > it contains is prohibited. If you receive the message in error, > please notify the sender by reply e-mail and discard all its > contents. Thank You. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 12:35:29 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: HP 95LX vs HP Omnigo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Domingo wrote: > P.S. It's funny, I live in the USA, with a British email address In that case I withdraw my suggestion. As far as I can make out, the 2190 is rather rare (I've got one) and the 700 is only common in Europe, Germany mostly. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 12:54:55 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Fw: Poqet PC .. Touchscreen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pksharma wrote: > i find the touch pad .. where you use a finger > sliding on a glass sensing plate .. > very convenient .. I have searched for a long time to find a trackball from a much older unit for my daughter's laptop. I have always found it impossible to do a mousclick without moving the cursor away from its target - it is possible using both hands, but still difficult. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 07:36:03 -0700 Reply-To: Terry Owen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Owen Subject: HP 95LX vs HP Omnigo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Half.com sells various Palms really cheap. I got 2 of my daughters Palms and they are happy with them. (The database (3rd) daughter has an LX.) What does your daughter intend to do with it? As an organizer and ebook reader, I'd think that might be the best option for the money. Huge user base, lots of free software and still a standard. I've been through a dozen palmtops and always come back to my TRG Pro (has a CF slot) and my LX. If she needs email or spreadsheets or word processing, then that's different - but I don't think I'd recommend the 95 or Omnigo for them, either. JMO, Terry >>Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:04:42 -0400 >>From: "Domingo" >>Subject: HP 95LX vs HP Omnigo >>Hi. I have been looking around ebay for a palmtop for one of my >>daughters, >>and I have my eye on the two above machines. I have a general >>idea about >>the 95lx, less so about the Omnigo, but enough to make me think >>the software >>selection is about par for the screen size of both. What I >>would like is >>comments for an against bidding on one versus the other. The HP >>200LX is >>of course the best one, but ebay prices reflect that fact. >> >>All thoughts appreciated. >> >>Domingo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:42:15 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Needed - Speed and extended memory drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Goldstein" > > I'm checking with Mack if he minds them being posted on SUPER ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" > > I have agreed with Mack that the drivers can be put on SUPER. Next > SUPER update will contain them. *************************************************** Hal and Daniel, My thanks to you both for this and many other things! bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:53:31 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: dos on epoc systems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello folks on this link http://www.nb-info.co.uk/xtminfo.htm you can find XTM a prog= ram that (should be able to run) xt programs on a epoc system (psion, nokia 9210). It is an XT-simulator so I guess you can also do other operating systems, but i'm not sure. According to the webpage it even has support f= or the special HP lx graph modes. Evaluation is 30 days, it costs =A324.99 if you want to buy it. I haven't tested for I have no EPOC-equipment. Just to inform you, Niels [n] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:13:21 -0300 Reply-To: Carlos Izzo Videla Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Carlos Izzo Videla Subject: 200lx + external modem project idea .... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello: Wanting to use a 28.8K, 33.6K or 56K PCMCIA modem in the 200lx is a whim of= sorts due to the amount of current these modems suck up, much more that = the 150mA it can supply. In addition to that, if you don't have an expanded hard disk, you are stuck= with the 1Mb or 2Mb (4Mb max some lucky fellows have), as a PCMCIA modem= will take up your PCMCIA slot and keep you from using your flash drive, = the ideal place for whatever email client you want to use along with the = email files.=20 While thinking about this, an idea came to mind: Why not 'hack' a spare 33.6K or 56K PCMCIA modem, wire it to a small flat N= iMh battery for power and then to the 200LX's serial port instead of usin= g it 'in' the 200lx's PCMCIA slot? It would be a real small external modem, easy enough to carry about with no= problems and if of the XJack type, very easy to connect anywhere. I'm sure many of the more tech savvy 200lxers out there could put forth the= necessary info so as to be able to do this. ie: PCMCIA socket pinouts, diagrammes, etc. I have at least one spare PCMCIA modem and would quite be willing to try it= out, but I definitely need the tech support. I'd appreciate any comments on this. Best regards, ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:09:59 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: receiving faxes on 700lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, another datacom problem here, I'm unable to receive faxes on my palmtop, because the nokia detects incoming calls always as a voice call. On most other phone's i've had there was an option to set the next call type to voice, fax or data. The 2110 however seems not to have this feature, only for outgoing calls. Isn't there a AT-command to put the phone into data-receive mode? I do not have a fax or data number for my phone, I think that would solve it, but that costs money ;) thanks! Niels [n] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 00:05:25 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: missing parts for my 700lx/2110 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Niels wrote: > I have the part you put on your belt, not on the phone That's what I understood - and that is the one I always break sitting down. The cover on the phone is indestructible (except by you). Where exactly do you live? I suppose I'm mislead by your name and it's not Scandinavia, is it? And what is your phone? The older 2110 had a big blob (more than a cm long) on the top of the extended antenna, the newer 2110i has a stub from the phone body that is not extended with the antenna. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 00:34:29 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: missing parts for my 700lx/2110 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Axel Berger wrote: > That's what I understood And that uis what happens after you get into the habit of altering the "To.". Now I have sent a private answer to a private mail to the group - sorry folks, and sorry Niels. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 22:49:12 -0600 Reply-To: Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Needed - Speed and extended memory drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HOORAY! Many thanks to Daniel and Mack! Two guys who should be inducted into the Palmtop Hall of Fame! Daniel Hertrich wrote: > I have agreed with Mack that the drivers can be put on SUPER. Next SUPER update will contain them. > > GTX > daniel -- Richard & Patti Smith ---------- NO UCE / NO UBE / NO SPAM / http://www.cauce.org ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:38:44 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: missing parts for my 700lx/2110 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ;) no prob [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:34 AM Subject: Re: missing parts for my 700lx/2110 > Axel Berger wrote: > > That's what I understood > > And that uis what happens after you get into the habit of altering the > "To.". Now I have sent a private answer to a private mail to the group - > sorry folks, and sorry Niels. > > Axel > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:02:52 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Needed - Speed and extended memory drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hehe why not set up a voting system for the 'palmtop masters' so we can vote for them ;) :D Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard and Patti Smith" To: Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:49 AM Subject: Re: Needed - Speed and extended memory drivers > HOORAY! Many thanks to Daniel and Mack! Two guys who should be > inducted into the Palmtop Hall of Fame! > > > Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > > I have agreed with Mack that the drivers can be put on SUPER. > Next SUPER update will contain them. > > > > GTX > > daniel > > -- > Richard & Patti Smith > ---------- > NO UCE / NO UBE / NO SPAM / http://www.cauce.org > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:00:24 +0100 Reply-To: "Brown, William D" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William D" Subject: Re: 200lx + external modem project idea .... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain There are 56k modems that work fine in the LX. I use a Psion Dacom Gold Card, it flies. I think you will find newer modems use less power...but I'm sure you will get many that work identified on this list, or in the list archive. William D.Ll.Brown ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:23:26 +0200 Reply-To: Ulrich Boche Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: ZIP 2.2 -transfer roblem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005F868FC1256C40_=" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005F868FC1256C40_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Tuesday, 24.09.2002 at 12:43 ZE2, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Radek > > 03h57m ago Svagr, Radek wrote: > > > When transferring a file I get message. It usually > happens with same > > file after transferring same quantity > > of kilobytes... File and disks are for sure not damaged and > I run it under > > pure DOSes. > > On one side HP200LX without sysmgr and other side standart > PC (tried more > > with similar results) also > > under pure DOS (Caldera DRDOS or the one from W95) I tried > 115200 and 57600 > > conn. speeds. > > 1. both speeds are quite high. 57600 should be possible with > double > speed, but 38400 is safer. With single speed, 38400 works > sometimes, > but 19200 is safer. Depends on the quality of handshaking, I > think. > I've used ZIP for a rather long time on Windows 95 and Windows Me to do backups and file transfers between an HP 200 LX and a PC. I've never had to use a connection speed lower than 115200 bps and my HP is single speed. Radek, what operating system are you using on the PC side? The reason I've basically stopped using ZIP is that I now have a ThinkPad running Windows 2000. Under Windows 2000, I've never been able to reliably get ZIP to work. I was sometimes able to transfer files in one direction (can't remember which) at a fairly low speed but never in the other. On the other Windows versions including Me, ZIP was always running fine. Windows NT most probably wouldn't work either. Finally, I gave up and bought a large enough CF card with a PCMCIA adapter which I can just alternatively plug into my HP 200 LX and ThinkPad. On my home PC which doesn't have a PCMCIA slot I'm using a CF reader from Sandisk. Before that, I had used a PCMCIA flash card from ACE with only 10 MB so I had to use Stacker. I had no intention to try and mess with Stacker on Windows. Ulrich Boche --=_alternative 005F868FC1256C40_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
On Tuesday, 24.09.2002 at 12:43 ZE2, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
> Hi Radek
>
> 03h57m ago Svagr, Radek wrote:
>
> > When transferring a file I get <ERROR> message. It usually
> happens with same
> > file after transferring same quantity
> > of kilobytes... File and disks are for sure not damaged and
> I run it under
> > pure DOSes.
> > On one side HP200LX without sysmgr and other side standart
> PC (tried more
> > with similar results) also
> > under pure DOS (Caldera DRDOS or the one from W95) I tried
> 115200 and 57600
> > conn. speeds.
>
> 1. both speeds are quite high. 57600 should be possible with
> double
> speed, but 38400 is safer. With single speed, 38400 works
> sometimes,
> but 19200 is safer. Depends on the quality of handshaking, I
> think.
>
I've used ZIP for a rather long time on Windows 95 and Windows Me
to do backups and file transfers between an HP 200 LX and a PC.
I've never had to use a connection speed lower than 115200 bps
and my HP is single speed.

Radek, what operating system are you using on the PC side?
The reason I've basically stopped using ZIP is that I now have
a ThinkPad running Windows 2000. Under Windows 2000, I've
never been able to reliably get ZIP to work. I was sometimes
able to transfer files in one direction (can't remember which)
at a fairly low speed but never in the other. On the other
Windows versions including Me, ZIP was always running fine.
Windows NT most probably wouldn't work either.

Finally, I gave up and bought a large enough CF card with a
PCMCIA adapter which I can just alternatively plug into my
HP 200 LX and ThinkPad. On my home PC which doesn't have
a PCMCIA slot I'm using a CF reader from Sandisk. Before
that, I had used a PCMCIA flash card from ACE with only
10 MB so I had to use Stacker. I had no intention to try and
mess with Stacker on Windows.

Ulrich Boche
 --=_alternative 005F868FC1256C40_=-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:32:56 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: OT-Integrated, palm type, computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit another update.... tiqit has made a really nice small pc they also offer a sort off handheld (the 83) but I remember it being quite ugly and way to expensive (and powerfull, it runs winXP ;)) < I just checked it out again, see below... As I see the spec's, I won't say anymore it's expensive, just that it's a shitload of money ($1000-1500) website: http://www.tiqit.com/mpc/mpcindex.html - 133MHz AMD Elan CPU - 32MB SD-Ram - Video 512K VRAM, Cirrus CL-GD6235 chip SVGA Resolution (800x600), 256 color XVGA Resolution (1024x768), 16 colors - UTP 10Mbit/s - 1 GB IBM minidrive - 1 HDD interface - size just 50x70x24mm! - weight 93 gram! the unit is not really choosy when it comes to a power supply: - 6.5-40 VDC unregulated at 3-7.5 watts - Permits operation from Sony NP-550/NP-750/NP-950 Li-Ion battery, auto cigarette lighter, 12V or 24V lead-acid battery, etc. specs of the port expander - Mini DIN 6-pin female socket (PS/2 keyboard); - Two Sub-D 9-pin (DB-9) Male Vertical sockets (COM1, COM2); - Sub-D 25-pin (DB-25) Female Vertical socket (parallel port); - High Density 15-pin (HD-15) Female Vertical socket (VGA port); - RJ-45 8-pin female socket (Ethernet); - 26-pin male header (Floppy); - Reset switch; - Male power socket pretty expensive but small i think the port expander can be done with some solderding so that's pretty expensive also the rest can be done yourself, of course, but that will be harder ;) MPC II alone w/ Port Expander part no. 20903 $997 MPC II/340MB drive w/ Port Expander part no. 20903 $1,254 MPC II/1GB drive w/ Port Expander part no. 20903 $1,447 Mini-Port Expander part no. 20904 (Sold separately) $70 I found it on www.ccmod.com, a dutch casemodding site. ok now about the 83... it's a 300mhz toy, has a 4" 640x480x18bit vga lcd with touchscreen (there's also a 'joystick mouse' for those who don't like touchscreens) and backlight it will cost about $1000-$1500 they promise us, so that's a bit bitter priced than the minipc mentioned above, for it is much more complete (see the specs on the site: http://www.tiqit.com/specs.html) it's size is 150x102x28 mm, the screen takes about half (sorry I am not into calculating the width and height of a 4" display) the height so it is 75x102mm if you'd be able to make it a clamshell. Only if there's no loose space in this thing you will need to double the height to aprox 6 cm. but probbably some things can move... So if there's anyone here wanting to buy one and try to put it into a clamshell housing... then it can be really nice! Niels [n] [ snip all other for this is a long post thus the line limit played up on me for the first time ;) ] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 06:32:38 +0100 Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Svagr, Radek" Subject: Re: ZIP 2.2 -transfer roblem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" I use "normally" upgraded DS 200LX. On the desktop PC, there was pure DOS (no windoze) running. I will check it again this weekend... Radek > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List On Behalf Of Ulrich Boche > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 7:23 PM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: ZIP 2.2 -transfer roblem > > > On Tuesday, 24.09.2002 at 12:43 ZE2, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > Hi Radek > > > > 03h57m ago Svagr, Radek wrote: > > > > > When transferring a file I get message. It usually > > happens with same > > > file after transferring same quantity > > > of kilobytes... File and disks are for sure not damaged and > > I run it under > > > pure DOSes. > > > On one side HP200LX without sysmgr and other side standart > > PC (tried more > > > with similar results) also > > > under pure DOS (Caldera DRDOS or the one from W95) I tried > > 115200 and 57600 > > > conn. speeds. > > > > 1. both speeds are quite high. 57600 should be possible with > > double > > speed, but 38400 is safer. With single speed, 38400 works > > sometimes, > > but 19200 is safer. Depends on the quality of handshaking, I > > think. > > > I've used ZIP for a rather long time on Windows 95 and Windows Me > to do backups and file transfers between an HP 200 LX and a PC. > I've never had to use a connection speed lower than 115200 bps > and my HP is single speed. > Radek, what operating system are you using on the PC side? > The reason I've basically stopped using ZIP is that I now have > a ThinkPad running Windows 2000. Under Windows 2000, I've > never been able to reliably get ZIP to work. I was sometimes > able to transfer files in one direction (can't remember which) > at a fairly low speed but never in the other. On the other > Windows versions including Me, ZIP was always running fine. > Windows NT most probably wouldn't work either. > Finally, I gave up and bought a large enough CF card with a > PCMCIA adapter which I can just alternatively plug into my > HP 200 LX and ThinkPad. On my home PC which doesn't have > a PCMCIA slot I'm using a CF reader from Sandisk. Before > that, I had used a PCMCIA flash card from ACE with only > 10 MB so I had to use Stacker. I had no intention to try and > mess with Stacker on Windows. > Ulrich Boche > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:49:08 +0800 Reply-To: JIMMY TAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JIMMY TAN Subject: Lotus Agenda MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody, I would like to pose this question to fellow LX-ers who use Lotus Agenda on their trusty palmtops: how big is your largest database and is it sluggish on the 200LX? Best regards. Jimmy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:18:30 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: New gdbload Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Donald Puscher writes: > Folks, > > I truly am database challenged. > > The problem was that my text file had the following line > > A Second Browser's Dictionary, John Ciardi, Writing, , , , , > > which should have been > > A Second Browser's Dictionary, John Ciardi, Writing, , ,,, > > That is, no spaces between the commas for the dates. > > Thanks to David for his wonderful program! > Not my program at all, I just tweaked it a bit. Real thanks go to Steve Roth and Harry Gryc. By the way I will send soon to SUPER a new version which will also allow the above without a problem. -- ** David Becher ** davidbATnetmedia.net.il davidbATcimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:40:40 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Bluetooth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I just read that at least five vendors offer CF sized Bluetooth cards now: Anycom (RFI Mobile technologies AG - Germany), Socket/Nokia, Pretec, Ambicom, Windigo. Do they work in the LX? Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:48:35 -0600 Reply-To: jaevans@codenet.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John_Evans Subject: Cybiko, wireless, and HP 200LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, I am beginning to see third party apps for this beast, in particular, a ham radio operator is using one for packet and APRS. I am curious if anyone has looked at this for other wireless communications uses on the 200lx. http://www.kr1st.com/cybiko.htm -- has the TNC comm uses http://www.cybiko.com -- has specs, etc. I am seeing them available for cheap on ebay, too. thanks, john ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:53:34 -0400 Reply-To: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Subject: Re: Cybiko, wireless, and HP 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I am beginning to see third party apps for this beast, in particular, a ham radio operator is using one for packet and APRS. I am curious if anyone has looked at this for other wireless communications uses on the 200lx. > > http://www.kr1st.com/cybiko.htm -- has the TNC comm uses > > http://www.cybiko.com -- has specs, etc. > > I am seeing them available for cheap on ebay, too. > > thanks, > john It's cheap brand new. It sports a lot of nice features for such an inexpensive platform. Too bad it looks so... hokey. It's marketed for kids. http://search.shopping.yahoo.com/search/all/__yltc=s:22708228,d:14489115,p:s ,l:search?is=1&p=cybiko&tool=0&did= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:12:10 -0600 Reply-To: "Batson, Dale N" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Batson, Dale N" Subject: 448MB SiliconTech Flash Card & HP-200LX ? Comments: cc: "Dale Batson (E-mail)" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I just bought a 448MB SiliconTech ATA Flash Card (SLATAFL448) off eBay for my 200LX, and I'm having trouble getting the palmtop to recognize this card. I followed Daniel's instructions (www.daniel-hertrich.de/200lx/#storage), and installed the Acecard driver but I'm still unable to access this card. When I try to run fdisk100 it tells it doesn't need it. When I try to format it I get a message stating that it cannot format this card. The original owner says he's been using this card in his notebook computer and that the Flash Card currently has one partition, (he's unsure if it's FAT16 or FAT32). My 200LX is a Times2 Tech 96MB, Double Speed. Does anyone any additional suggestions for getting this card to work in my 200LX? *** NOTE: PLEASE COPY ALL RESPONSES TO THIS MESSAGE TO MY HOME ADDRESS: "XR650R@MSN.COM"! THANKS! *** Thank you, Dale Batson Card Marking Details: SiliconTech ATA Flash Storage 448MB SLATAFL448 P/N: 715-00440-01 REV: 00 SW Ver: 03.02.02.00 P/C: 11091F Yellow sticker: "Minimum S/W Revision Applies For this card" White sticker: "256MB ChipSize" White QC sticker: 063000I013, 94000-00764-210 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:20:11 +0200 Reply-To: Michel Bel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michel Bel Subject: Re: 448MB SiliconTech Flash Card & HP-200LX ? Comments: To: Batson Dale N MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale Batson wrote: > I just bought a 448MB SiliconTech ATA Flash Card (SLATAFL448) off eBay for > my 200LX, and I'm having trouble getting the palmtop to recognize this card. > I followed Daniel's instructions (www.daniel-hertrich.de/200lx/#storage), > and installed the Acecard driver but I'm still unable to access this card. > When I try to run fdisk100 it tells it doesn't need it. When I try to format > it I get a message stating that it cannot format this card. The original > owner says he's been using this card in his notebook computer and that the > Flash Card currently has one partition, (he's unsure if it's FAT16 or > FAT32). My 200LX is a Times2 Tech 96MB, Double Speed. Does anyone any > additional suggestions for getting this card to work in my 200LX? > I have several SLATAFL448 cards, all working well. I had the same problem first with one of them. I have formatted them in a notebook ( as FAT16 ) and they work well now. Also I can now also access them and format using filer. ( Menu Options Format ) I propose that you fdisk and format it on a notebook first. Preferably under W95/98, not W2K, as this may give problems. With the acecard3 driver they should work like a charm then. Met vriendelijke groet, kind regards, Michel Bel > *** NOTE: PLEASE COPY ALL RESPONSES TO THIS MESSAGE TO MY HOME ADDRESS: > "XR650R@MSN.COM"! THANKS! *** > > Thank you, > Dale Batson > > Card Marking Details: > SiliconTech ATA Flash Storage > 448MB SLATAFL448 > P/N: 715-00440-01 > REV: 00 > SW Ver: 03.02.02.00 > P/C: 11091F > Yellow sticker: "Minimum S/W Revision Applies For this card" > White sticker: "256MB ChipSize" > White QC sticker: 063000I013, 94000-00764-210 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:26:23 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: 448MB SiliconTech Flash Card & HP-200LX ? Comments: To: "Batson, Dale N" , "Batson, Dale N" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Dale 01h09m ago Batson, Dale N wrote: > I followed Daniel's instructions (www.daniel-hertrich.de/200lx/#storage), > and installed the Acecard driver but I'm still unable to access this card. > When I try to run fdisk100 it tells it doesn't need it. When I try to format > it I get a message stating that it cannot format this card. The original If you have a laptop or desktop with PCMCIA, try to repartition and reformat the card under various operating systems. Maybe the partition on the card is really not readable by the palmtop's DOS. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:41:41 +0200 Reply-To: Michel Bel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michel Bel Subject: Re: 448MB SiliconTech Flash Card & HP-200LX ? Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just tested - curious behaviour: Formatted as FAT32 under W2K, W98- behaviour exactly as Dale describes (re) formatted as FAT16 - read/write with Acecard3 Trying to fdisk100 under DOS on the LX: 'fdisk100 is not needed for ... Reformatting under filer ( AFAIK uses fdisk100 ) works and reformats fine. So yes, probably FAT32 or NTFS, so find a notebook and reformat as FAT. Repartitioning is most likely NOT necessary. Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: Re: 448MB SiliconTech Flash Card & HP-200LX ? > Hi Dale > > 01h09m ago Batson, Dale N wrote: > > > I followed Daniel's instructions (www.daniel-hertrich.de/200lx/#storage), > > and installed the Acecard driver but I'm still unable to access this card. > > When I try to run fdisk100 it tells it doesn't need it. When I try to format > > it I get a message stating that it cannot format this card. The original > > If you have a laptop or desktop with PCMCIA, try to repartition and > reformat the card under various operating systems. Maybe the partition > on the card is really not readable by the palmtop's DOS. > > GTX > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:49:46 -0700 Reply-To: "Martin G. Ramirez" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Martin G. Ramirez" Subject: Airport Security & LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed LXers, As one who is going to be making some trips in the next few months, I have some questions for those who have traveled by air in the US since 9/11. In general, what has been your experience when you have taken your LX (or a Libretto/ laptop) with you? What sorts of things was your system(s) subjected to in the new security environment and how was this different than old procedures? Are some airports better than others in this regard? Given the current climate, should one just leave your LX/Libretto/notebook at home (seems unfortunate if it's come to that..). Martin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 16:59:45 -0500 Reply-To: John McCaskill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John McCaskill Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020927143733.01ae30e8@lmumail.lmu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I carry my LX in my carry-on briefcase & send it through the x-ray scanner. Sometimes they ask me to take it out of the case & turn it on, sometimes not. John -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu]On Behalf Of Martin G. Ramirez Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:50 PM To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Airport Security & LX LXers, As one who is going to be making some trips in the next few months, I have some questions for those who have traveled by air in the US since 9/11. In general, what has been your experience when you have taken your LX (or a Libretto/ laptop) with you? What sorts of things was your system(s) subjected to in the new security environment and how was this different than old procedures? Are some airports better than others in this regard? Given the current climate, should one just leave your LX/Libretto/notebook at home (seems unfortunate if it's come to that..). Martin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:20:54 -0400 Reply-To: Nicholas Argyros Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nicholas Argyros Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In my recent experience, all laptops were scanned separately, without = carrying cases. Sometimes in addition to x-ray scanning, they rub a wand = around the case and laptop, I think to detect residue from chemicals used = for explosives (or maybe for illicit drugs). I was always nervous about = this part because all my laptops and carry cases were purchased second-hand= . Now I use only one carry case which has already 'passed'.=20 Sometimes the LX gets 'ooh-aah wow a real computer' treatment, but = usually it is ignored. X-Rays have not harmed any digital memory or digital camera in my = experience. >>> John McCaskill 09/27/02 05:59PM >>> I carry my LX in my carry-on briefcase & send it through the x-ray = scanner. Sometimes they ask me to take it out of the case & turn it on, sometimes not. John -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu]On Behalf Of Martin G. Ramirez Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:50 PM To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu=20 Subject: Airport Security & LX * ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:28:57 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: USB PC Card Reader with a CF adapter at a good price MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not sure if anyone besides me still needed one but I just ordered a USB PC Card reader for $9.99 US plus shipping from TigerDirect. It is supposed to also read Compact Flash and Smart Media. The picture shows what appears to be a compact flash to PCMCIA adapter included so I guess that is how they are reading the CF. It showed up on the Web page at $14.99 each. When I put it in the shopping basket the price magically became $9.99. So I increased the quantity to 2. (One for home and one for work.) It seemed very reasonable price for the reader and a CF adapter. Here's the link and it still drops to $9.99 when you put it in the basket - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?SRCCODE =BEFREE&SKU=L61-3188%20P&sourceid=00357421085862783124 For what it's worth, bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:12:20 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Comments: To: "Martin G. Ramirez" In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020927143733.01ae30e8@lmumail.lmu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>In >>general, what has been your experience when you have taken your LX (or a >>Libretto/ laptop) with you? the LX gets ignored, laptops have to go through the xray machine alone sometimes they make you turn it on too but not often, mostly in canada they seemed to want to xray it and turn it on >>Given the current climate, should one just leave your >>LX/Libretto/notebook at home (seems unfortunate if it's come to that..). given the current climate it is better to leave yourself at home but indeed if i could just get away with the HP that is all i would bring. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:59:41 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Comments: To: "Martin G. Ramirez" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin G. Ramirez wrote: > As one who is going to be making some trips in the next few months, I have The only concern that ever made sense to me, and not just post 9/11, is magnetic media like diskettes and hard disks having to pass thru strong magnetic fields that some say exist near the moving rubber belts that you put your luggage on to run it through the scanning tunnel. The fields are supposedly caused by the motors driving the belts. I haven't flown since 9/11 but previously I always asked to have my LX manually scanned to avoid any possible fields from those belt motors. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:28:34 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Comments: To: "Martin G. Ramirez" In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020927143733.01ae30e8@lmumail.lmu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 27 Sep 2002 at 14:49, Martin G. Ramirez wrote: > LXers, > > As one who is going to be making some trips in the next few months, I have > some questions for those who have traveled by air in the US since 9/11. In > general, what has been your experience when you have taken your LX (or a > Libretto/ laptop) with you? What sorts of things was your system(s) > subjected to in the new security environment and how was this different > than old procedures? Are some airports better than others in this > regard? Given the current climate, should one just leave your > LX/Libretto/notebook at home (seems unfortunate if it's come to that..). I have traveled by air about 20 times since 9/11/2001 and hundreds of times before that. The only post 9/11 change in the US is that all laptops have to be taken out of your computer bag and sent through the x-ray by themselves. Most airports have plastic trays for your laptop so they don't ride directly on the rubber belt, however, the quality of these bins varies greatly from airport to airport. The only "problem" is that some over eager security personnel try to have you remove the laptop well before you reach the x- ray machine, which increases the chance that you may drop and damage it. As long as you do not hold up the line, you can usually indicate that you know about the rule and then wait until you are at the table near the x-ray machine before removing your laptop. I just leave my LX in my computer bag and no one has ever asked that it be removed. I have no experience with non-US airports since 9./11. I have traveled by air with portable computers since they were first introduced and have always sent all my electronics through the x-ray machine. I have _never_ lost even one bit of data. I don't know how people can claim that x-ray machines damage computers. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:31:50 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Comments: To: Larry Tachna In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 27 Sep 2002 at 19:12, Larry Tachna wrote: > the LX gets ignored, laptops have to go through the xray machine alone > sometimes they make you turn it on too but not often, mostly in canada they > seemed to want to xray it and turn it on Turn it on and wait for Windows to boot???? Do they have that much patience? If you don't finish the boot then Windows will run Scandisk at the next startup. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:06:01 -0700 Reply-To: patrick@west.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Comments: To: Victor Roberts In-Reply-To: <3D94C036.9912.1CD6BDF@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:31:50 -0400, Victor Roberts wrote: >Turn it on and wait for Windows to boot???? Nope, just turn it on so they can see it start to work. That way= they know you haven't replaced the insides of the battery or battery= compartment with C4. -- Patrick West, patrickwest3@attbi.com on 09/27/2002 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:25:23 +0800 Reply-To: Mujid Abdul-CAM028 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mujid Abdul-CAM028 Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I'm a Muslim(most of people suspicious about Muslims) from Malaysia and I travelled to Japan and Singapore recently. They don't inspect my LX. >I have no experience with non-US airports since 9./11. > >------ >Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:41:19 -0400 Reply-To: N Knight Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: N Knight Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I've sent my devices and cards through security at the airport with no trouble at all. Do yourself a favor though.....backup backup backup. Too many of the clowns at the airport will want to look at the 200lx, play with it, see if it works, etc. No problem with the pcmcia cards either. A word of caution though....the new anthrax machines that the post office uses will fry your pcmcia and cf cards....... _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:21:25 -0600 Reply-To: Helmut Grossinger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Helmut Grossinger Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Comments: To: "Martin G. Ramirez" In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020927143733.01ae30e8@lmumail.lmu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI! I just made a trip to NY City via Newark NJ. The trip started from Denver CO to Newark and return one week later. In Denver I had to open my 200LX and turn it on put it in a basked. It went through the x-ray no problems afterwards. The same was true on the return trip at Newark. The same goes for all computers. Helmut in Colorado ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 07:57:30 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX In-Reply-To: <20020928010604.PBZA6431.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@d1-xp-pro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > That way they know > you haven't replaced the insides of the battery or battery > compartment with C4. Do they really know? My Compaq Armada has two battery compartments... regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:40:06 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Omnibook 800 problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sat, 28.09.02 11:30 AM +0200 Hi friends, sorry for that off-topic, but I know here are a few OB800 owners who could maybe help me. I have an Omnibook 800CT 166MMX. BIOS upgraded to version 2.01 German. For some months I have severe battery problems. Both of my batteries last only for 15-30 minutes, then the low battery warning appears. The Omnibook suspends mostly within the next few SECONDS instead of after two minutes then. BUT: I can switch it on again using F4-On and the battery indicator shows two bars again, but the battery again runs down very quickly. I can repeat this a few times, until the Omnibook will not switch on at all anymore. BUT: When I remove the battery and connect another device (a motor, in this case) I can suck 1 Ampere out of the battery for another 1-1.5 hours, so the battery is NOT empty when the Omnibook says so. So I suspect the batteries (at least the newer one, which is abt. 1 year old) are good, and the failure is somewhere in the Omnibook. Does anyone have an idea how to solve this? Is it necessary to "re-synchronize" the charging software (in the BIOS?) with the battery? Or is that new BIOS version buggy? Please help, It is really annoying, because I need the Omnibook for my diploma thesis, and I cannot always use the AC adapter! Thanks a lot daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 13:52:57 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: Easter Eggs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oliver W. Leibenguth wrote: > > > 4.. Pictures of the software development team in the Lair of Squid > game. > > Start Lair of Squid. From the opening screen, before starting a > game, type > > "gallery". > > Does anybody know how to trigger this egg on a german machine? The word is "siegergalerie". (Luckyly, debug is in the ROM). +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:00:06 +0200 Reply-To: Nigel R Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nigel R Organization: STRATEGIC ALLIANCE CONSULTING Subject: Spell Checking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone :) I have a spell check application on my HP95 the details of which are: SP95 (C) Richard E. Harvey Box 5695 Glendale AZ 85312 and although the implementation is not as sophisticated as many other applications performing a similar function (procedure is manual) it is more than adequate for my needs. However, the reference dictionary is very limited and I can find no method of making additional entries :( I cannot recall from where I obtained the program (could have been from a Palmtop Papers disk many years ago) nor is there any reference to freeware / shareware or provision for 'registration' and I certainly did not purchase from anyone in SA! Pressing F1 whilst in the application only displays the information quoted above. Hence a request to the list for help! The collective wisdom of HP palmtop users is awaited with anticipation but until then, KEEP SMILING :) Very best regards from Nigel R (who at the best of times cannot spell very well!) in sunny South Africa. P.S. From the postings on this group it would seem that 95 users are few and far between. Does anyone have any idea of the numbers re 95 / 100 / 200 models in active use? (apologies for sounding a bit like the question of how long is a piece of string) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 08:58:03 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Comments: To: Victor Roberts In-Reply-To: <3D94C036.9912.1CD6BDF@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Turn it on and wait for Windows to boot???? Do they have that >>much patience? No as soon as they see the first sign of activity on the screen that is good enough and they shoo you away ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 08:58:09 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Comments: To: Russel Brooks In-Reply-To: <200209272359.g8RNxgM09057@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>The only concern that ever made sense to me, and not just post >>9/11, is magnetic media like diskettes and hard disks having to >>pass thru strong magnetic fields that some say exist near the >>moving rubber belts that you put your luggage on to run it >>through the scanning tunnel. The fields are supposedly caused >>by the motors driving the belts. I can say without a doubt that the x-ray machines at the airports in the USA do NOT damage magnetic media, my HP and about 30 3.5 inch floppies that I travel with have been through many x-ray machines over many years and have never had a problem. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 08:58:15 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Comments: To: patrick@west.net In-Reply-To: <20020928010604.PBZA6431.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@d1-xp-pro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Nope, just turn it on so they can see it start to work. That way they know >>you haven't replaced the insides of the battery or battery >>compartment with C4. not so sorry, i got caught with dead batteries one time in canada after 9/11 i mean the machine would not turn on i pulled out the cord they plugged it in and never looked any closer at the machine after it started on ac power ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:06:55 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "N Knight" To: Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 5:41 AM Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX > > A word of caution though....the new anthrax machines that > the post office uses will fry your pcmcia and cf cards....... > If it will fry pcmcia / cf cards... it will fry most electronic stuff, I think? scary.... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 08:26:56 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: New stuff on SUPER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Call it ESP or whatever. I had a hunch to check what's new on the SUPER site http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html I haven't checked in the past several months, at least. I must have caught Daniel at work updating the site with loads of new offerings (all the "added" dates were given as today's date--08/28/2002) Lots of good stuff there. I especially note that Eric Meyer has updated VDE to 1.93c (will he ever get to version 2.0 or will he approach that number as a limit?) This version works out of the box on WinNT 4.0 Anyway, have fun browsing. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:52:59 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: New stuff on SUPER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ehm...today is _09_/28/2002 so the updates are from a month ago ;) whatever, super rules! Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Keefe" To: Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: New stuff on SUPER > Call it ESP or whatever. I had a hunch to check what's new on the SUPER site > http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html I haven't checked in the past several > months, at least. I must have caught Daniel at work updating the site with > loads of new offerings (all the "added" dates were given as today's > date--08/28/2002) Lots of good stuff there. I especially note that Eric > Meyer has updated VDE to 1.93c (will he ever get to version 2.0 or will he > approach that number as a limit?) This version works out of the box on WinNT > 4.0 > > Anyway, have fun browsing. > > .ed. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:05:13 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Comments: To: Larry Tachna In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 28 Sep 2002 at 8:58, Larry Tachna wrote: > >>Turn it on and wait for Windows to boot???? Do they have that > >>much patience? > > No as soon as they see the first sign of activity on the screen that is good > enough and they shoo you away > And then what do _you_ do with a machine that needs time to finish booting before you turn it off? No one has asked me to tun on my laptop since the days of DOS. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:07:50 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 27 Sep 2002 at 23:41, N Knight wrote: > A word of caution though....the new anthrax machines that > the post office uses will fry your pcmcia and cf cards....... They also destroy the magnetic strip on credit cards, which is why they will probably not be going into general use. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 07:11:34 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX In-Reply-To: <3D957ED9.21824.6E5BE3@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Victor Roberts wrote: > > No as soon as they see the first sign of activity on the screen > > that is good enough and they shoo you away > > And then what do _you_ do with a machine that needs time to finish > booting before you turn it off? No one has asked me to tun on my > laptop since the days of DOS. Personally, I would switch the laptop back off before the BIOS screen flickers off and it starts loading Windows. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:15:31 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: OT Re: Omnibook 800 problems Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: <200209280940.g8S9e1M16207@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 28 Sep 2002 at 11:40, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Sat, 28.09.02 11:30 AM +0200 > > Hi friends, > > sorry for that off-topic, but I know here are a few OB800 owners who > could maybe help me. > I have an Omnibook 800CT 166MMX. BIOS upgraded to version 2.01 German. > For some months I have severe battery problems. Both of my batteries > last only for 15-30 minutes, then the low battery warning appears. > The Omnibook suspends mostly within the next few SECONDS instead of > after two minutes then. > > BUT: > > I can switch it on again using F4-On and the battery indicator shows > two bars again, but the battery again runs down very quickly. I can > repeat this a few times, until the Omnibook will not switch on at all > anymore. > > BUT: > > When I remove the battery and connect another device (a motor, in this > case) I can suck 1 Ampere out of the battery for another 1-1.5 hours, so > the battery is NOT empty when the Omnibook says so. So I suspect the > batteries (at least the newer one, which is abt. 1 year old) are good, > and the failure is somewhere in the Omnibook. > > Does anyone have an idea how to solve this? Is it necessary to > "re-synchronize" the charging software (in the BIOS?) with the battery? > Or is that new BIOS version buggy? > > Please help, It is really annoying, because I need the Omnibook > for my diploma thesis, and I cannot always use the AC adapter! I don't have any info about the German BIOS, but the American English version works OK. Did the battery problems start when you upgraded the BIOS? I assume you have shut down and restarted the machine, that is a cold boot. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:02:27 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: New stuff on SUPER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Ed 31m ago Ed Keefe wrote: > Call it ESP or whatever. I had a hunch to check what's new on the SUPER site > http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html I haven't checked in the past several > months, at least. I must have caught Daniel at work updating the site with > loads of new offerings (all the "added" dates were given as today's > date--08/28/2002) Lots of good stuff there. I especially note that Eric Well - actually the last update is exactly one month old. ;-) To see what I have added since your last visit, go to http://www.palmtop.net/whatsnew.html and browse the changelogs! BTW: What is ESP? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:54:00 +0200 Reply-To: oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Leibenguth Subject: Re: New stuff on SUPER >BTW: What is ESP? extra sensorial perception (please excuse my probably wrong spelling on that)? In German, this would be "sechster Sinn" or "Vorahnung"... regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:16:39 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 28 Sep 2002 at 7:11, Ian Butler wrote: > On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Victor Roberts wrote: > > > > No as soon as they see the first sign of activity on the screen > > > that is good enough and they shoo you away > > > > And then what do _you_ do with a machine that needs time to finish > > booting before you turn it off? No one has asked me to tun on my > > laptop since the days of DOS. > > Personally, I would switch the laptop back off before the BIOS screen > flickers off and it starts loading Windows. I guess I could press F8 which brings up the Start Up Options screen which would give them time to see the display without actually starting Windows. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:27:14 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: USB PC Card Reader with a CF adapter at a good price In-Reply-To: <008b01c26675$456fb230$ae2d010a@penickrh40w> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 27 Sep 2002 at 18:28, Bob Penick wrote: > Here's the link and it still drops to $9.99 when you put it in the basket - > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?SRCCODE > =BEFREE&SKU=L61-3188%20P&sourceid=00357421085862783124 They seem to have fixed the link. It stays at $14.99 when I put it in my shopping basket. Still a good deal though. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 20:41:28 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: 2 simcards for one subscription MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those of you who are using their omnigo with the nokia 2110 and another (likely smaller ;)) phone for normal use on the same subscription, it is pretty nasty to swap the sim card all the time... An ideal thing would be a seperate (data) subscription for the 700lx but that is quite expensive. So now I got another solution... with Vodafone (in holland) you can get another simcard for your subscription. I payed E20 once and that's all... okay I cannot have them both switched on at the same time (that works, but crappy) but it's for me a better solution then 2 seperate subscriptions... I don't know if it's available for you, but you might want to contact your service provider for info if you like... Niels [n] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 21:46:58 +0200 Reply-To: Zoran Vignjevic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Zoran Vignjevic Subject: Re: PCMCIA to Everything adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > Hi Don, > > nice to hear from you again! > > 11 weeks 13h21m ago Don E. Weatherly wrote: > > > Has anyone used the PCMCIA to SmartMedia, Secure Digital, MultiMediaCard, > > Memory Stick adapter here: > > > > http://www.verbatim.com.au/Hardware/pccard/adapters.html > > no, but Stefan Leichl reported a Sandisk MMC adapter to work in the LX, > and someone also used a Sony Memory stick adapter successfully. So > there is hope that such a universal adapter would also work. > Probably it simply contains an ATA interface and otherwise only slots > with pins for the different media types. > > > David > > ?? Are you David or Don? :-) > > GTX > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- Regards, Zoranv http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=10099 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/5906/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 21:51:26 +0200 Reply-To: Zoran Vignjevic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Zoran Vignjevic Subject: Re: PCMCIA to Everything adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sORYY FOR THE PREVIOUS NULL MESSAGE... Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > > and someone also used a Sony Memory stick adapter successfully. So > there is hope that such a universal adapter would also work. > Probably it simply contains an ATA interface and otherwise only slots > with pins for the different media types. > GTX > daniel Only CF has compact ATA interface , and it has memory controller on itself, which is not the case with SmartMedia (it is without any controller on it, and controller is in read/write device, FE digicams) and maybe with Sony MS cards also... So the universal adapter is not only passive device (like PCMCIA interface for CF), it has to have active controllers for diferent types of (only) memory cards... Regards, Zoran ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:37:24 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Comments: To: N Knight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "N Knight" To: Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:41 PM Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX > A word of caution though....the new anthrax machines that > the post office uses will fry your pcmcia and cf cards....... I read that they fixed that. But check it out. It's just a vague memory since I don't travel. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 00:07:17 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: 2 simcards for one subscription MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Niels wrote: > with Vodafone (in holland) you can get another simcard for > your subscription. I payed E20 once and that's all... Vodafone Germany calls that "twin card" and T-mobile offers something similar. I've had it for years. Usually it is marketed for car phones, but I too use it for the 2110 and the small one, though with me the 2110 is the main phone with the tiny ones taxing my eyesight seldom used. Hint: You can't have a twin card with the prepaid "callya" (why do they insist on calling stuff names in bad pseudo-English?). But you can change a rate with a monthly charge to prepaid when the 24 months are up. If it was twin before, you keep them. But if you lose or damage one or both of the cards, it is a single replacement :-( Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 18:24:55 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX In-Reply-To: <002b01c2672e$ee2d54e0$930d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 28 Sep 2002 at 15:37, Barry wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "N Knight" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:41 PM > Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX > > > > A word of caution though....the new anthrax machines that > > the post office uses will fry your pcmcia and cf cards....... > > I read that they fixed that. But check it out. It's just a vague > memory since I don't travel. Well Barry, only the mail gets zapped by the anthrax machines. Not travelers or their luggage ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 20:09:42 -0700 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: 200LX Modems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, I was looking at buy a modem for my 200LX and I was wondering if you knew if this particular modem would work? http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/xjowner/mhertzxj144.jpg The picture has all the specs that I know about the modem and I can't seem to find the modem FAQ on SUPER(I could have sworn there was one there on the home page at one point). If you know if this modem would work, or if I would need software to make it, please let me know. Any help would be appeciated. Thanks, Questor. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:58:00 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: OT : Real ? Flying Saucer - Possible in our MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OT : Real ? Flying Saucer - Possible in our lifetime ? http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lftbld.htm this was too good to pass over ! so i'm passing over to you guys !! ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:45:04 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: 2 simcards for one subscription MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Niels 16h13m ago Niels wrote: > For those of you who are using their omnigo with the nokia 2110 and another > An ideal thing would be a seperate (data) subscription for the 700lx but > that is quite expensive. So now I got another solution... with Vodafone (in > holland) you can get another simcard for your subscription. I payed E20 once > and that's all... okay I cannot have them both switched on at the same time > (that works, but crappy) but it's for me a better solution then 2 seperate > subscriptions... I looked into this some time ago, because I wanted the phone in the car handfree kit to be able to use the same subscription as my "pocket" phone. My provider, E-Plus, doesn't offer that service, and after some investigation it turned out to be a patent problem. Probably Vodafone has patented this "twin card" service so others cannot offer it. :-( GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:33:14 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: FS: 200LX 3MB, 192MB CF card, MP3-Player (Europe only please) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sun, 29.09.02 4:38 PM +0200 Hi friends, I'm selling some stuff on ebay, EU bidders only, please: * 200LX 3MB item # 1384915146 * 192MB CF card Sandisk item # 1384903668 * MP3 player Moveman SSP-100 (CF) item # 1384907958 and some other things, see the list on http://members.ebay.de/aboutme/danielhertrich GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:03:41 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Niels wrote: > If it will fry pcmcia / cf cards... it will fry most electronic stuff, I > think? Most? No, but flash memory does have problems in these scanners. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 13:15:28 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: USB PC Card Reader with a CF adapter at a good price Comments: To: Victor Roberts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Roberts" > > Here's the link and it still drops to $9.99 when you put it in the basket - > > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?SRCCODE > > =BEFREE&SKU=L61-3188%20P&sourceid=00357421085862783124 > > They seem to have fixed the link. It stays at $14.99 when I put it in my > shopping basket. Still a good deal though. ************************************************************* Hi Vic, Here's where I get confused by cookies that web sites leave on your PC. Last night at home I used my OB800 to check the item on TigerDirect's site and indeed the price stayed at $14.99 when I placed it in the "shopping cart". Today I'm back at work on the PC I used Friday when I ordered the readers. I went to the item, placed one in the "shopping cart" and the price dropped to $9.99 again. Considering that I had never purchased anything from TigerDirect using that PC in the past, I can't figure out why it would be identified for the discount. (I have never used the OB800 to order from there either.) I don't know why they gave me that discount, but I wish I could get 33% off on some other things they sell! Sorry it didn't work for you. bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 04:21:04 +1000 Reply-To: Tim Pitman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Pitman Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX Comments: To: "Martin G. Ramirez" In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020927143733.01ae30e8@lmumail.lmu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Last week I travelled from Sydney, Australia to Vancouver, Canadata (vai Hawaii), then to Seattle, USA. I had a laptop, my hybrid 100/200lx and a few other gadgets (minidisc, video camera, digital camera). All places made me put the laptop in a seperate tray to go through the x-ray scanner. US customs in Canada made me turn on and demonstrate operational everything electronic (including the lx). They also took a swab from the keyboard of the laptop. In gerneal, no problems from the laptop or the lx. The time they spend cheking is nothing compared to that spent waiting in line! The bad thing about the laptop is that it's so heavy to lug around. Tim Pitman From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu]On Behalf Of Martin G. Ramirez Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 7:50 AM To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Airport Security & LX LXers, As one who is going to be making some trips in the next few months, I have some questions for those who have traveled by air in the US since 9/11. In general, what has been your experience when you have taken your LX (or a Libretto/ laptop) with you? What sorts of things was your system(s) subjected to in the new security environment and how was this different than old procedures? Are some airports better than others in this regard? Given the current climate, should one just leave your LX/Libretto/notebook at home (seems unfortunate if it's come to that..). Martin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:10:45 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: clanky space-bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi (i'm 'still' here - sigh from some, smile from others) tell me, is it my fault if i didn't hit the spacebar on center and now have both sides making a cranky/clanky sound as if it was broken. i can only get it responding in the middle. can it be fixed? now, wasn't this OT ?!? Dr.Nat (written on LX200 and serial-cabled to PC for upload to free.fr server) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:45:35 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: 2 simcards for one subscription Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the card are identical i found out well, i cannot really compare what's on them but - I got 2 new simcards, I had to trash the other (they cannot make a clone of the sim I already had, because that data is deleted there) - the new cards have the same sim number - same puk-code for both cards so I guess there are just the same I know some 'underground' dudes can clone sim cards, and I have found something about that on the internet long ago in Beverwijk there is a 'black market' where you can buy many stuff (can be illegal...this market is tolerated or so, don't know why) and usually cheap... also much phone things (cables, new displays, fronts,...) and maybe they can clone simcards there Don't know if there is something like that in germany? If you really want it, next time I go there, I will ask for it if you want Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 2:45 PM Subject: Re: 2 simcards for one subscription > Hi Niels > > 16h13m ago Niels wrote: > > > For those of you who are using their omnigo with the nokia 2110 and another > > An ideal thing would be a seperate (data) subscription for the 700lx but > > that is quite expensive. So now I got another solution... with Vodafone (in > > holland) you can get another simcard for your subscription. I payed E20 once > > and that's all... okay I cannot have them both switched on at the same time > > (that works, but crappy) but it's for me a better solution then 2 seperate > > subscriptions... > > I looked into this some time ago, because I wanted the phone in the car > handfree kit to be able to use the same subscription as my "pocket" > phone. My provider, E-Plus, doesn't offer that service, and after some > investigation it turned out to be a patent problem. Probably Vodafone > has patented this "twin card" service so others cannot offer it. :-( > > GTX > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:47:37 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit so it does only harm memory pcmcia cards and not pcmcia in general still a bad thing...as is anthrax... Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Brooks" To: Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX > Niels wrote: > > If it will fry pcmcia / cf cards... it will fry most electronic stuff, I > > think? > > Most? No, but flash memory does have problems in these scanners. > > Cheers... Russ > > DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:45:29 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: The 200LX is sold. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:56:55 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: 2 simcards for one subscription MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Niels 09m ago Niels wrote: > in Beverwijk there is a 'black market' where you can buy many stuff (can be > illegal...this market is tolerated or so, don't know why) and usually > cheap... also much phone things (cables, new displays, fronts,...) and maybe > they can clone simcards there > Don't know if there is something like that in germany? > If you really want it, next time I go there, I will ask for it if you want yes, sure. Interesting! But what I definitely won't do is give them my SIM card to clone it. ;-) If they can make one clone, they can also make two clones. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:24:50 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: 2 simcards for one subscription MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > yes, sure. Interesting! > But what I definitely won't do is give them my SIM card to clone it. > ;-) > If they can make one clone, they can also make two clones. uhm...you make a really good point there... I did not think of it! not such a good idea after all? Niels > > GTX > daniel > > > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:16:21 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: 200LX Modems Comments: To: Questor Jones In-Reply-To: <20020929030942.80905.qmail@web20415.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 28 Sep 2002 at 20:09, Questor Jones wrote: > Hello, > > I was looking at buy a modem for my 200LX and I was > wondering if you knew if this particular modem would > work? > > http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/xjowner/mhertzxj144.jpg > > The picture has all the specs that I know about the > modem and I can't seem to find the modem FAQ on > SUPER(I could have sworn there was one there on the > home page at one point). > > If you know if this modem would work, or if I would > need software to make it, please let me know. > > Any help would be appeciated. I normally use the Megahertz XJ2144 with my 200LX. This is a 14,400 modem that is very similar to the Megahertz XJ3144 you are looking at except that the XJ2144 does not have cell phone capability. I also have the XJ3144 and just tested it in my 200LX and it does work. What I do not know is if the XJ3144 needs more current than the XJ2144. BTW - the last time I checked, the XJ2144 was available on ebay for a less than $10, sometimes less than $5. But the last time I looked for one was over a year ago. There may not be any more for sale. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:18:40 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: clanky space-bar Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud In-Reply-To: <004601c267f0$3f822160$895a933e@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 29 Sep 2002 at 21:10, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > hi (i'm 'still' here - sigh from some, smile from others) > > tell me, is it my fault if i didn't hit the spacebar on center and now have > both sides making a cranky/clanky sound as if it was broken. i can only get > it responding in the middle. can it be fixed? > > now, wasn't this OT ?!? Sounds like your LX is ready for repair. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 03:42:30 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Multiple LX Quickens?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to have Multiple LX Quickens? I don't mean multiple accounts in Quicken, I have that and it's all kept in one big data file in the quicken directory. What I'm looking for is a way to have a second data file, maybe even in a 2nd directory that would have a set of separate quicken accounts completely separate from the first set. They shouldn't know about each other at all. I would expect the second quicken to be invoked via another key or Apmgr icon. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:18:54 -0500 Reply-To: Daniel Turner Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Turner Subject: ATS Install error: No Ports MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When pressing CTRL + ALT + ESC on either a 100lx ROM 1.06a OR a 200lx ROM 1.01a I get the following message in the upper left corner: ATS Install error: No Ports Does anyone know what this means? I did a google search, and all I found was someone asking the same question I am now asking. Thanks -Daniel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:31:00 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: 2 simcards for one subscription MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Niels wrote: > so I guess there are just the same Yes they are. This is not strictly conforming to the standards - switching both on at the same time tends to somewhat confuse the system - but they get away with it. D1 does it more correctly and less usably, two differnt card use forwarding to each other, they do not use the same number and thus one sends a caller ID the callee can't (reliably) call back to. > uhm...you make a really good point there... > I did not think of it! > not such a good idea after all? I'd be happy to try it with one of my prepaids - after cancelling roaming the possible loss is severely limited. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:39:51 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: ATS Install error: No Ports MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Daniel 03h13m ago Daniel Turner wrote: > When pressing CTRL + ALT + ESC on either a 100lx ROM 1.06a OR a 200lx ROM > 1.01a I get the following message in the upper left corner: > > ATS Install error: No Ports Aha, interesting! On my German palmtop ROM 1.02A this also appears. Strange. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:40:16 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Multiple LX Quickens?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russel Brooks wrote: > I don't mean multiple accounts in Quicken, I have that and it's > all kept in one big data file in the quicken directory. I don't see your problem. I only did a short test and don't use quicken myself, so maybe I overlooked something important, but with "new" I could install the data to an arbitrary folder and with load I could get them from there, so what is the problem with two totally separate folders? Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:18:41 +0200 Reply-To: Gijs Leegwater Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gijs Leegwater Subject: 200lx XT keyboard? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Last days i'm trying to make some ASM programs on the 200lx. I read the 200lx is XT-compatible. Now I want to make my own interrupt 9 handling routine. But I don't know well how to do that. I read on the net that XT keyboards are incompatible with AT ones. But why do all cga games work on both AT desktop and 200lx? Does the IHR support both standards? And where on the net can i find an exact specification of the XT standard(port 60/64 info etc). If I'll make some IHR on the 200lx which uses XT standards won't it work on my desktop then? Is there some way to determine keybaord type? Has theLX got a 101-key-like-keyboard? Can somebody help me with this issue? Bye, Cheiz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 15:06:34 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: 200lx XT keyboard? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Gijs Leegwater wrote: > Last days i'm trying to make some ASM programs on the 200lx. I read the > 200lx is XT-compatible. Now I want to make my own interrupt 9 handling > routine. But I don't know well how to do that. I don't know if the XT class computers have more than 8 interrupts request lines. An AT machine have 16 of these, by chaining 2 interrupt controllers. This chaining is performed by redirecting IRQ2 of the first to IRQ1 of the second (from the host, it's just like redirecting IRQ2 to IRQ9). If XT machines have only 1 interrupt controller, then you can have IRQ from 0 to 7 only. > I read on the net that XT > keyboards are incompatible with AT ones. But why do all cga games work on > both AT desktop and 200lx? Because of the BIOS? Or because of good programmers? > Does the IHR support both standards? And where on > the net can i find an exact specification of the XT standard(port 60/64 info > etc). Try to find the Ralf Brown's Interrupt List, you'll have more than just an interrupt list (which in itself is a very good thing), or the DOSREF22.ZIP file (I don't know if this shareware still exists, I bought my registered version 3.4 some years ago). -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:50:10 -0400 Reply-To: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Subject: Re: clanky space-bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My backup unit has the same problem. My original one also had it but it was still under HP warranty at the time and was fixed. Some spring or something breaks underneath the spacebar. There's no way to fix it except to take it apart. The space bar still works but sometimes it misses the stroke. Eventually it stops working altogether. I haven't sent my backup unit in for repair because I'd rather not spend the $125 if I don't have to. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathalie Bugeaud" To: Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 3:10 PM Subject: clanky space-bar > hi (i'm 'still' here - sigh from some, smile from others) > > tell me, is it my fault if i didn't hit the spacebar on center and now have > both sides making a cranky/clanky sound as if it was broken. i can only get > it responding in the middle. can it be fixed? > > now, wasn't this OT ?!? > > Dr.Nat > > (written on LX200 and serial-cabled to PC for upload to free.fr server) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:56:00 +0000 Reply-To: lloo@ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: lloo@ATT.NET Subject: Re: New stuff on SUPER Extra Sensory Perception. Sixth sense ... which also covers telepathy (mind reading), clairvoyance (seeing things beyond visual range) and precognition (seeing the future), any one of which your wife may use to know you are thinking about another woman, or considering buying another gadget. - Longden > BTW: What is ESP? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:32:56 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That's why they have dogs (who are usually more observant that the human screeners, and often more intelligent). -----Original Message----- From: Oliver W. Leibenguth [mailto:Oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE] Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 12:58 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX > That way they know > you haven't replaced the insides of the battery or battery > compartment with C4. Do they really know? My Compaq Armada has two battery compartments... regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 20:18:33 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > That's why they have dogs (who are usually more observant > that the human screeners, and often more intelligent). Thank god we have (most of the time) stupid or at least uneducated terrorists. I wouldn't use TNT or anything similar these dogs are trained to detect: http://uncensored.citadel.org/pub/amoebas/astrolit.txt The amount of astrolite that would fit into the second battery compartment of my Armada could easily blow a 747 into pieces the size of a penny :-| regards, Oliver P.S.: No, I'm not into building explosive batteries, I'm just thinking about the possibilities (and I really do not like that stuff everyone can find on the internet...) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:41:50 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 200lx XT keyboard? Comments: To: Erwann ABALEA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erwann ABALEA" To: Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:06 AM Subject: Re: 200lx XT keyboard? > I don't know if the XT class computers have more than 8 interrupts request > lines. An AT machine have 16 of these, by chaining 2 interrupt > controllers. This chaining is performed by redirecting IRQ2 of the first > to IRQ1 of the second (from the host, it's just like redirecting IRQ2 to > IRQ9). > > If XT machines have only 1 interrupt controller, then you can have IRQ > from 0 to 7 only. I think int 9 is mapped to IRQ 1. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:51:21 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 200lx XT keyboard? Comments: To: Gijs Leegwater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gijs Leegwater" To: Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 6:18 AM Subject: 200lx XT keyboard? > Last days i'm trying to make some ASM programs on the 200lx. I read the > 200lx is XT-compatible. Now I want to make my own interrupt 9 handling > routine. But I don't know well how to do that. I read on the net that XT > keyboards are incompatible with AT ones. But why do all cga games work on > both AT desktop and 200lx? Does the IHR support both standards? And where on > the net can i find an exact specification of the XT standard(port 60/64 info > etc). If I'll make some IHR on the 200lx which uses XT standards won't it > work on my desktop then? Is there some way to determine keybaord type? Has > theLX got a 101-key-like-keyboard? > Can somebody help me with this issue? The AT keyboard is pretty much a superset of the XT keyboard. There are some additional functions in int 16h for the extra keys on the AT keyboard. They pretty much duplicate the XT functions, which exist on both machines, but they can return information on the AT keys as well. If AT specific keys aren't used in the game, the program can use the XT functions and run on either machine. Int 16h functions 0 through 2 exist on both machines and only return information about the XT keys, which exist on both keyboards. Functions 10 through 12 are basically the same but they're only available on AT machines and return information on all the keys. Also, even though the 200lx is essentialy an XT it pretty much emulates an AT keyboard. That's true of a lot of XT class machines built after ATs became available. Both sets of functions are available on the 200lx. I can't recall the details right now but on the 200lx, int 9 is emulated in some way. I think they keyboard is actually polled but it's done in such a way as to make it seem almost exactly like int 9 is doing the job. For that reason most (but not all) things that hook int 9 will work. I can't remember what the differences actually are but there is good information about this in the 200lx developers manual which you can get from www.thaddeus .com. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:58:03 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: clanky space-bar In-Reply-To: <001a01c26888$73f85250$2da5a8c0@RemoteUser> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, eD\/ARd0 F/\KEn^M3 wrote: > My backup unit has the same problem. My original one also had it but > it was still under HP warranty at the time and was fixed. Some spring > or something breaks underneath the spacebar. There's no way to fix it > except to take it apart. The space bar still works but sometimes it > misses the stroke. Eventually it stops working altogether. I haven't > sent my backup unit in for repair because I'd rather not spend the > $125 if I don't have to. It's not really a spring under the space bar ... the only thing under each key, aside from the contact pads, is a plastic bubble that provides the clicky feeling when the keys are pressed. The space bar problem, also seen with the Enter key, is usually caused by months and years of not hitting the key in the center, which causes uneven wear on the two tabs that hold the Space and Enter keys to the plastic frame. Eventually one of them breaks and the key becomes wiggly and clicks a lot. It usually doesn't last very long in this condition before the second tab breaks and the key is at risk of falling out. Superglue seems to work reasonably well for resealing the tabs to the plastic frame, but I don't know if anybody has tested this long-term. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:30:12 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Multiple LX Quickens?? Comments: To: Axel Berger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Axel Berger wrote: > I don't see your problem. I only did a short test and don't use quicken > myself, so maybe I overlooked something important, but with "new" I > could install the data to an arbitrary folder and with load I could get > them from there, so what is the problem with two totally separate > folders? I was hoping I'd find a way to start up that 'other Quicken' with a single keystroke like I can with the original one. Having to go thru menus to select which account files to use could be a real bother if I expect to make several updates a day in both of them. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 07:31:09 +0800 Reply-To: Wee-Meng Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Wee-Meng Lee Subject: Re: Multiple LX Quickens?? Comments: To: rlbrooks@POBOX.COM In-Reply-To: <200209302130.g8ULUDM02115@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> from "Russel Brooks" at Sep 30, 2002 09:30:12 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Axel Berger wrote: > > I don't see your problem. I only did a short test and don't use quicken > > myself, so maybe I overlooked something important, but with "new" I > > could install the data to an arbitrary folder and with load I could get > > them from there, so what is the problem with two totally separate > > folders? > > I was hoping I'd find a way to start up that 'other Quicken' > with a single keystroke like I can with the original one. Having > to go thru menus to select which account files to use could be a > real bother if I expect to make several updates a day in both of > them. > > Cheers... Russ What about recording a macro to do that? Rgds weemeng ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 15:30:50 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: clanky space-bar Ian Butler writes: > ...Superglue seems to work reasonably > well for resealing the tabs to the plastic frame, but I don't know if > anybody has tested this long-term. I tried it on my original unit, it didn't last very long. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml