========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 07:20:57 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Multiple LX Quickens?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi russ 07h42m ago Russel Brooks wrote: > I was hoping I'd find a way to start up that 'other Quicken' > with a single keystroke like I can with the original one. Having > to go thru menus to select which account files to use could be a > real bother if I expect to make several updates a day in both of > them. What about a system macro? Fn-F1 starts Quicken1, Fn-F2 starts Quicken2. Or use Fn-F4 and Fn-F5 (F4 is directly above the Quicken key). They would start the same Quicken, then do something like "menu/file/open/filename1" and "medu/file/open/filename2". That's all. Oh maybe they should begin with "menu/exit" so you can call one quicken from the other. Well, then menu items above are only guessed, I don't know Quicken's menu structure. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:28:31 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Multiple LX Quickens?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russel Brooks wrote: > I was hoping I'd find a way to start up that 'other Quicken' > with a single keystroke like I can with the original one. Done that, found no T-shirt. The path to your data is always stored in C:\Quicken\QHP.CFG, wherever they themselves may be kept. So the solution is two batches delete qhp.cfg copy second.cfg qhp cfg and vice versa to be run before starting quicken. This should be easy with two makros. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 08:53:14 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Multiple LX Quickens?? Comments: To: Wee-Meng Lee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wee-Meng Lee wrote: > What about recording a macro to do that? Oh the shame... You mean I have to finally admit I've never set up a macro and don't know how? Now where did I leave my 200LX manual... Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:24:38 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: 200lx XT keyboard? In-Reply-To: <002c01c268b1$1e4da3e0$f10d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Barry wrote: > I think int 9 is mapped to IRQ 1. I just checked from a DOSREF34 found on the net, and my memory served me right. IRQ0 is the timer interrupt, IRQ1 is the keyboard one, and IRQ2 is redirected to the second 8259 chip on AT machines. On that case, an IRQ9 is generated whenever an IRQ2 is requested. IRQ0 (as seen coming to the CPU) is translated to int 8h, and IRQ1 to int 9h. You think well. ;) -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:38:04 +0200 Reply-To: Malcolm Shewan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Malcolm Shewan Subject: IR Telephone Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit This has probably been on here before but I would like to know if there is a telephone on the market current with which I could use IR connection to send my e-mails from an HPLX200? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 08:31:12 -0400 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: ATS Install error: No Ports Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Daniel Turner wrote: > When pressing CTRL + ALT + ESC on either a 100lx ROM 1.06a OR a 200lx ROM > 1.01a I get the following message in the upper left corner: > > ATS Install error: No Ports > > Does anyone know what this means? A guess is a factory "Automatic Testing System" that uses a special hardware setup. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 08:55:39 -0400 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: 200lx XT keyboard? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Gijs Leegwater wrote: > Last days i'm trying to make some ASM programs on the 200lx. I read the > 200lx is XT-compatible. Now I want to make my own interrupt 9 handling > routine. But I don't know well how to do that. I read on the net that XT > keyboards are incompatible with AT ones. But why do all cga games work on > both AT desktop and 200lx? Does the IHR support both standards? And where on > the net can i find an exact specification of the XT standard(port 60/64 info > etc). If I'll make some IHR on the 200lx which uses XT standards won't it > work on my desktop then? Is there some way to determine keybaord type? Has > theLX got a 101-key-like-keyboard? As Barry wrote; the 200LX keyboard is pretty much an AT keyboard if you are using the BIOS interface. The INT 9 and INT 16 are software interrupts, not the hardware IRQ's. Look on S.U.P.E.R. for a developer's guide for the 200LX specific differences from the standard XT/AT keyboard handling. There is also a 200LX list of scan codes. I wrote a keyboard interrupt handler for a 200LX specific game that I was writing at one time. I used the code from a mix of assembler books. All of which were quite similar. But, this was to access the keystokes in a timely manner, not to access the hardware directly. If that was what you want, about half of the MS-DOS assembly language books will discuss the subject. Look for pop-up TSR programming. You should find code on Simtel, S.U.P.E.R., or the like. For no real reason, the drawing program that I am Alpha/ Beta testing with some list members uses the AT keyboard BIOS functions. So if you are not looking at the hardware level, you can treat the 200LX mostly as an AT. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:16:40 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: clanky space-bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathalie Bugeaud" To: Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 9:10 PM Subject: clanky space-bar > hi (i'm 'still' here - sigh from some, smile from others) I always smile to a woman ;) (si elle m'emb=EAte pas...) > > tell me, is it my fault if i didn't hit the spacebar on center and now have > both sides making a cranky/clanky sound as if it was broken. i can only get > it responding in the middle. can it be fixed? if you can find a new spacebar, I think you can. But this is a more commo= n problem so I think new (actually, used) spacebars are rare, for they have= to come from another lx.. and I think there is no one here who want's so sacrifice a working lx for a spacebar (quite useless, too, because then t= he other lx has a broke spacebar...) so you have to look out for a dead lx. Probbably thadeus can help you out (do I hear someone calling for Hal? ;)) > > now, wasn't this OT ?!? Actually, I do not think this is an OT message... > > Dr.Nat > > (written on LX200 and serial-cabled to PC for upload to free.fr server) must have been quite hard with that spacebar you've got :( > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:04:12 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: IR Telephone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Malcolm 01h24m ago Malcolm Shewan wrote: > This has probably been on here before but I would like to know if there is a > telephone on the market current with which I could use IR connection to send > my e-mails from an HPLX200? > There are many. But what you need in order to send email using IR (IrDA) is WWW/LX and Post/LX. Please read http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx This explains a lot of details about that topic. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 06:10:06 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: clanky space-bar In-Reply-To: <003601c2694b$614bdaa0$060210ac@tommy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Niels wrote: > if you can find a new spacebar, I think you can. But this is a more > common problem so I think new (actually, used) spacebars are rare, for > they have to come from another lx.. and I think there is no one here > who want's so sacrifice a working lx for a spacebar (quite useless, > too, because then the other lx has a broke spacebar...) A new spacebar won't help -- as Theodore pointed out, even superglue won't hold the space bar in very well. What is actually needed is an entire keyboard assembly, which, of course, involves finding a dead LX to use, or sending your 200LX to Thaddeus and paying the $125 fee. I'd still probably try superglue first, though, just in case it happens to work well enough to be usable. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:13:20 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: IR Telephone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx/ and http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ir_dev/ and http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/emi/ maybe even more but can't think of it now also try the list archives, I remember a recent discussion about this nokias tend to work if I'm correct, check at Daniels' pages mentioned above Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Shewan" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: IR Telephone > This has probably been on here before but I would like to know if there is a > telephone on the market current with which I could use IR connection to send > my e-mails from an HPLX200? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 07:44:29 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: clanky space-bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I would use a plastic solvent rather than superglue. In the US, several types are Tenax 7R, Plastruct Bondene, and Testor's solvent cement -- ask at a good hobby/model shop for some (whatever brand is sold in your country). You use a minimal drop of these solvents to melt the plastic, allowing it to flow together and "weld" together. Superglue forms a layer of a different material between the plastic surfaces, and is more likely to come apart than a good solvent weld. -----Original Message----- From: Ian Butler [mailto:ianb@HPLX.NET] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:10 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: clanky space-bar On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Niels wrote: > if you can find a new spacebar, I think you can. But this is a more > common problem so I think new (actually, used) spacebars are rare, for > they have to come from another lx.. and I think there is no one here > who want's so sacrifice a working lx for a spacebar (quite useless, > too, because then the other lx has a broke spacebar...) A new spacebar won't help -- as Theodore pointed out, even superglue won't hold the space bar in very well. What is actually needed is an entire keyboard assembly, which, of course, involves finding a dead LX to use, or sending your 200LX to Thaddeus and paying the $125 fee. I'd still probably try superglue first, though, just in case it happens to work well enough to be usable. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 07:22:18 -0700 Reply-To: Michael Kopplin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Kopplin Subject: Re: Multiple LX Quickens?? In-Reply-To: <3D995CAF.59DFE221@Nexgo.De> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Axel Berger wrote: > Russel Brooks wrote: > > I was hoping I'd find a way to start up that 'other Quicken' > > with a single keystroke like I can with the original one. > > Done that, found no T-shirt. The path to your data is always stored in > C:\Quicken\QHP.CFG, wherever they themselves may be kept. So the > solution is two batches > > delete qhp.cfg > copy second.cfg qhp cfg > > and vice versa to be run before starting quicken. This should be easy > with two makros. You could save the macros and start quicken with one keypress by the following. Create your first quicken file, then exit and rename the above qhp.cfg file (e.g. qone.cfg). Create the second quicken file and rename the new qhp.cfg file (qtwo.cfg). Then in program manager, add an icon for qone which runs a batch file like: copy c:\quicken\qone.cfg c:\quicken\qhp.cfg ks \^ Add another icon for qtwo which runs a batch for qtwo.cfg. ks is the 200lx version of keystuff. Make sure you have an upside-down question mark in the comment field to suppress the returning from dos prompt and you will have one keypress access to the two files. Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:55:22 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: ATS Install error: No Ports MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 700lx ROM 1.06b same thing [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:31 PM Subject: Re: ATS Install error: No Ports > Daniel Turner wrote: > > > When pressing CTRL + ALT + ESC on either a 100lx ROM 1.06a OR a 200lx ROM > > 1.01a I get the following message in the upper left corner: > > > > ATS Install error: No Ports > > > > Does anyone know what this means? > > A guess is a factory "Automatic Testing System" that uses > a special hardware setup. > > Steve > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:49:40 +0200 Reply-To: Ulrich Boche Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Friday, 27.09.2002 at 20:28 AST, Victor Roberts wrote: > I have traveled by air about 20 times since 9/11/2001 and > hundreds of times before > that. The only post 9/11 change in the US is that all laptops > have to be taken out of your > computer bag and sent through the x-ray by themselves. Most > airports have plastic > trays for your laptop so they don't ride directly on the > rubber belt, however, the quality of > these bins varies greatly from airport to airport. The only > "problem" is that some over > eager security personnel try to have you remove the laptop > well before you reach the x- > ray machine, which increases the chance that you may drop and > damage it. As long as > you do not hold up the line, you can usually indicate that > you know about the rule and > then wait until you are at the table near the x-ray machine > before removing your laptop. > > I just leave my LX in my computer bag and no one has ever > asked that it be removed. > > I have no experience with non-US airports since 9./11. > > I have traveled by air with portable computers since they > were first introduced and have > always sent all my electronics through the x-ray machine. I > have _never_ lost even one > bit of data. I don't know how people can claim that x-ray > machines damage computers. > I'm currently in the US and the flight from Stuttgart to Atlanta was a new experience. I was flying Delta, my favorite airline :^) Even before 9/11, they were infamous for their lengthy and troublesome check-in procedures. Now, they've added another dimension: all laptop computers had to be taken out of the computer bags and were taken to a station where they were examined with one of these large bomb sniffer devices. Also, all hand luggage was not only X-rayed but also searched and we had to remove our shoes which were also X-rayed. I had to explain that my HP 200 LX was a handheld computer and had to switch it on. I had a little APS camera in my hand luggage (cameras use to get stolen from checked luggage) which I also had to turn on. On flights within the US, my experience is the same as yours: laptops are X-rayed separately and nobody cares about the LX. Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:58:58 +0200 Reply-To: Ulrich Boche Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: Airport Security & LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Friday, 27.09.2002 at 20:31 AST, Victor Roberts wrote: > On 27 Sep 2002 at 19:12, Larry Tachna wrote: > > > the LX gets ignored, laptops have to go through the xray > machine alone > > sometimes they make you turn it on too but not often, > mostly in canada they > > seemed to want to xray it and turn it on > > Turn it on and wait for Windows to boot???? Do they have > that much patience? If you > don't finish the boot then Windows will run Scandisk at the > next startup. > On airport security checks, noone has ever required me to boot Windows on my laptop. It has always been sufficient to see the ThinkPad splash screen come up. I can switch it off again before Windows actually boots and forces a Scandisk run when interrupted. In the HP 200 LX case, having the Application Manager's Startup Screen displayed was sufficient. Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:29:47 +0800 Reply-To: Jorgen Wallgren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: SMALL MOUSE? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi There! I am looking for a very small mouse to use with my 200LX. I saw one small USB mouse, which comes with an USB- PS/2 adapter. So if I add a PS/2- 9-pin Serial adapter- would it work?? Anyone tried? I just want an ordinary conventional "roll-on-the-table" mouse- but small. And there are plenty of those, but with USB connector. So can use or not? THANKS, Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:54:41 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: fs: 700lx (not mine) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On marktplaats.nl someone is selling a Hp Omnigo 700lx communicator plus for ?75. What the 'plus' means, I don't know. Also he claims it's new. here is the link: http://www.marktplaats.nl/printbody.php3?g=foto&u=diversen&gz=alle&uz=alle&I D=4576&tr=omnigo~&tk=alle&pr=alle&bo=e&wp= the site is in Dutch, but you can click a link to send him an email, it's quite straigt forward. Niels [n] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:55:10 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: SMALL MOUSE? In-Reply-To: <200210011429.g91ETllp020972@smtp25.singnet.com.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Jorgen Wallgren wrote: > I am looking for a very small mouse to use with my 200LX. I saw one > small USB mouse, which comes with an USB- PS/2 adapter. So if I add a > PS/2- 9-pin Serial adapter- would it work?? Anyone tried? You'll have an USB mouse with a USB<->PS/2<->serial adapter? ;) It might work if your mouse does also know the serial mouse protocol. Your second adapter (the PS/2 to serial one) is only a cabling adapter, but the PS/2 protocol is different from the serial one. Some mice can work with, some can't. -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:09:44 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 200lx XT keyboard? Comments: To: Erwann ABALEA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erwann ABALEA" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 6:24 AM Subject: Re: 200lx XT keyboard? > On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Barry wrote: > > > I think int 9 is mapped to IRQ 1. > > I just checked from a DOSREF34 found on the net, and my memory served me > right. IRQ0 is the timer interrupt, IRQ1 is the keyboard one, and IRQ2 is > redirected to the second 8259 chip on AT machines. On that case, an IRQ9 > is generated whenever an IRQ2 is requested. > > IRQ0 (as seen coming to the CPU) is translated to int 8h, and IRQ1 to int > 9h. Thanks.m That's a bunch more than I remembered. What is DOSREF34? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:55:43 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: 200lx XT keyboard? In-Reply-To: <001c01c2695c$a906d460$3a0d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Barry wrote: > Thanks.m That's a bunch more than I remembered. What is DOSREF34? DOS Technical Reference Manual. A source of informations like the Ralf Brown Interrupt List, maybe a little less complete on the interrupt list, but with other things. It's distributed as shareware. Since I paid for it, I use it . I don't think it is sold anymore, it seems the update of this source has stopped. I bought the 3.4 version more than 8 years ago, and it seems it is still the latest version. -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 11:58:21 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 200lx XT keyboard? Comments: To: Erwann ABALEA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erwann ABALEA" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:55 AM Subject: Re: 200lx XT keyboard? > On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Barry wrote: > > > Thanks.m That's a bunch more than I remembered. What is DOSREF34? > > DOS Technical Reference Manual. A source of informations like the Ralf > Brown Interrupt List, maybe a little less complete on the interrupt list, > but with other things. It's distributed as shareware. Since I paid for it, > I use it . > > I don't think it is sold anymore, it seems the update of this source has > stopped. I bought the 3.4 version more than 8 years ago, and it seems it > is still the latest version. Thanks for the info. I just found it in a google search. The shareware version is unfortunately incomplete. Still, it has a lot of good information. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:13:35 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: USB: What do you think of this? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, "FT8U232AM is a cost-effective single chip USB UART ( U-UART ) solution for transferring serial data over USB. With data transfer rates of up to 920k baud ( RS232 ) and 2,000 k baud ( RS422 / RS485 ) , the FT8U232AM significantly raises the performance level above that above that of traditional ISA and PCI based UART solutions whilst offering true plug and play and easy interfacing through it's USB interface. Its flexible architecture allows this IC to be used in many different application areas - USB modems, Legacy RS232 UU USB Converter cables, USB interface cables for PDA's , Bar Code Scanners , RS422 data links and instrumentation - in fact almost any equipment that previously used a slow RS232 link for communication. Virtual COM port drivers are available for the FT8U232AM for Windows '98, Windows 98 SE and Windows 2000. Drivers for other operating systems are currently under development." Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:35:12 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Multiple LX Quickens?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Kopplin wrote: > copy c:\quicken\qone.cfg c:\quicken\qhp.cfg > ks \^ Yes, that was my first thought, but I did (and do) not know how to start internal prgrams from a batch. As you do: Could you elucidate a little? Danke Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:52:20 -0700 Reply-To: Michael Kopplin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Kopplin Subject: Re: Multiple LX Quickens?? In-Reply-To: <3D99EAE0.C9B8DB64@Nexgo.De> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Axel Berger wrote: > Michael Kopplin wrote: > > copy c:\quicken\qone.cfg c:\quicken\qhp.cfg > > ks \^ > > Yes, that was my first thought, but I did (and do) not know how to start > internal prgrams from a batch. As you do: > Could you elucidate a little? That's the part that keystuff (ks) takes care of. In the above batch file, the appropriate cfg is copied, then ks is called with the argument '\^' which is keystuffs code for the quicken key, and this keypress is placed in the keyboard buffer. When the batch file finishes, that buffered keypress starts quicken. The docs for keystuff list the codes for all the application keys. This only works with the Rod Whitbys 200lx version of keystuff, on super. Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 06:56:05 +0800 Reply-To: leewm@anakin.sgp.hp.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Wee-Meng LEE Subject: Re: Multiple LX Quickens?? Comments: To: Russel Brooks In-Reply-To: <200210010853.g918rFM15884@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Russel, The 200LX is a really nifty machine. One time I too spent US$60 to find out that it also has the HP12C functionality built in. I did read the manual but I didn't understand it then :) There are more than one way to do macro recording as others on the list have already mentioned. I mainly use the built-in system manager macro recorder as I can activate them from appointment to do repetitive stuff like weekly backup of files and monthly update of Quicken. I'm no expert at Quicken and I too am trying to figure out all those terms in there. Create your seperate quicken data files and save the configuration files to different filenames as mentioned before. To record a macro: & M use the arrow keys to select a free function key. eg: Fn F4 Note the key combination to press to stop recording, Shift Fn F4 Now put in all the keystrokes that you would use to rename/copy the quicken config file. eg: Filer F5(Goto) Quicken ENTER - go into the directory F5(goto) Quicken config file one } copy config file of set one to F2(copy) c:\quicken\qhp.cfg ENTER } active config file. Quicken - press quicken key to start quicken program Shift Fn F4 - stop macro recording Pls remember to make backups as it is easy to overwrite data files unintentionally as one is testing out the macros. Rgds weemeng > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List > [mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU]On Behalf Of > Russel Brooks > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 4:53 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: Multiple LX Quickens?? > > > Wee-Meng Lee wrote: > > What about recording a macro to do that? > > Oh the shame... You mean I have to finally > admit I've never set > up a macro and don't know how? Now where did I > leave my 200LX > manual... > > Cheers... Russ > > DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 18:52:40 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not exactly on target, but I am trying to install it on my 200lx. About two months ago I sent out a help call to the list trying to get copies of FrameWork IV disks. I have a set of 5 1/4 with a couple bad disks. Martin Ramirez offered to help by sending me a complete FW IV set copied onto 3 1/2 disks (20 disks). Martin's setup disk reads fine and the installation program starts. I select several options and when it seems ready to start writing files to the hard drive, it stops and asks for the setup disk to be placed in the drive. I took my working setup 360K disk and copied all the files to a new 720K 3 1/2 floppy. I've made sure that the disks were named the same. So that can't be the problem. I got the same results with the disk I made as I did with the one Martin made. I now suspect that there may be some copy protection scheme in place on the original 5 1/4 disks to keep me from installing from the copies. I have a late copy of CopyIIPC (V 6.0 dated 1990). I tried to use it on the PC (Pentium Pro 200 MHz) that I have the 5 1/4 drive installed in, but it complains that it cannot compensate for the processor speed and drops me back at the prompt. Any hints or tips from the collected wisdom of the list on how I can get this program installed? Anyone have an original set of 3 1/2 diskettes for FrameWork IV? One step forward and one slip back..... Later, bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 05:34:43 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: clanky space-bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit among recent suggestions: >..Superglue seems to work reasonably > well for resealing the tabs to the plastic frame, but I don't know if > anybody has tested this long-term. >>I tried it on my original unit, it didn't last very long. anyone tried re-assigning the "." key under wich it says "cut" as the space bar? i am already using numlock.com to assign down keys to the numeric keys to prevent wear and tear. The enter key seems fine because i always hit it dead center. another option for list members helping each other is to open a virtual spare parts shop of unused LXs aka Swap-Shop or Spare-Parts LETS Warehouse. A broken LX's kb may have underneath it a good mb heart etc. Best man to do it is Daniel: reliable, resouceful, never says "no", trustworthy, and ... domesticated :) amities .. from Nathalie http://palmtoppaper.com/PTPHTML/51/51000022.htm ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:53:32 -0700 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: PC Connection instead of modem./ Goin Postal Question In-Reply-To: <006401c269c5$c00ac400$2f59933e@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was wondering if there was a way to use Goin' Postal on my PC (with a cable modem). My idea is to run Goin' Postal on my PC and have it retrieve/send my email and store everything in a file that I can move over to my 200LX (to read later). That way, I can read/write emails on my 200lx and use my PC to just send/receive them directly to/from my compact flash card...and then all I need to do is grab the card and plug it into my palmtop to again read/respond to my mail. Is anyone doing anything like this ? (with Goin Postal or any other program) It seems Goin' Postal wants to use a dial-up connection but I have cable modem so there is no number to dial. Any insights (or web links) on how to use my PC to get/send email that I can later read/respond offline would be appreciated. Thanks. Questor __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:41:12 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: PC Connection instead of modem./ Goin Postal Question In-Reply-To: <20021002045332.83797.qmail@web20414.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Questor Jones wrote: > It seems Goin' Postal wants to use a dial-up > connection but I have cable modem so there is no > number to dial. I don't think you'll be able to do that, unless you find a DOS packet driver for your cablemodem. > Any insights (or web links) on how to use my PC to > get/send email that I can later read/respond offline > would be appreciated. Have you considered using MochaPPP? If you have a free serial port, use your HP200 cable between your PC and your HP200, install and configure MochaPPP on your Windows machine, and reduce the dial script to nearly nothing on the HP200 side. You'll have an IP link just like the one you get with a modem, and your HP will be able to send/retrieve your mail, via your PC. -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:59:25 +0100 Reply-To: "Brown, William D" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William D" Subject: Re: PC Connection instead of modem./ Goin Postal Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain There is provision in GP to use it over ethernet with the LXEN2216 driver using the instructions that come with it. That might allow you to work it through any router that does ethernet-cable, ethernet-adsl, ethernet-isdn etc. William D.Ll.Brown ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:29:42 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: PC Connection instead of modem./ Goin Postal Question In-Reply-To: <7165E3A0BA56D411BE6700D0B77FC8AE04E54A60@ukz808.ggr.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Brown, William D wrote: > There is provision in GP to use it over ethernet with the LXEN2216 driver > using the instructions that come with it. That might allow you to work it > through any router that does ethernet-cable, ethernet-adsl, ethernet-isdn > etc. I haven't downloaded this LXEN2216 driver, but isn't it specific to a PCMCIA ethernet card? -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:38:15 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: clanky space-bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Nathalie 02h42m ago Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > another option for list members helping each other is to open a virtual > spare parts shop of unused LXs aka Swap-Shop or Spare-Parts LETS Warehouse. > A broken LX's kb may have underneath it a good mb heart etc. Best man to do Very good idea! Someone should set up something like that! > it is Daniel: reliable, resouceful, never says "no", trustworthy, and ... no. ;-) I won't start any new projects anymore, at least not in the near future. Too busy with my diploma thesis, last few exams and the backlight project. No chance. > domesticated. Grrr! GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:38:16 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: PC Connection instead of modem./ Goin Postal Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Questor 01h27m ago Questor Jones wrote: > My idea is to run Goin' Postal on my PC and have it > retrieve/send my email and store everything in a file > that I can move over to my 200LX (to read later). AFAIK, there is some packet driver for DOS boxes under Windows... But I have no idea about how that works or where you find it. > That way, I can read/write emails on my 200lx and use > my PC to just send/receive them directly to/from my > compact flash card...and then all I need to do is grab > the card and plug it into my palmtop to again > read/respond to my mail. Another option could be to connect the palmtop via serial cable to the PC, run a PPP server on the PC and thus share its internet connection with the palmtop. I do this many times daily, you can set that up under Windows and Linux: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/internet_sharing GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:44:00 +0200 Reply-To: oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Leibenguth Subject: Swap-Shop (was: Re: clanky space-bar) >Very good idea! Someone should set up something like that! If nobody started working on that right away, I could setup something... (Any suggestions about the layout would be appreciated) > >> it is Daniel: reliable, resouceful, never says "no", trustworthy, and ... >no. Yes you are, you proved it more than once ;-) >Too busy with my diploma thesis, last few exams and the >backlight project. No chance. I could start it and transfer the swap-list to you whenever you want to take over, so you all don't have to memorize another URL... >> domesticated. Maybe I should interview your wife ;-)) regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:10:58 +0100 Reply-To: "Brown, William D" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William D" Subject: Re: PC Connection instead of modem./ Goin Postal Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Hmm, yes I guess it is designed for a card in the LX. I'm sure that you could find a packet driver, but clearly GP expects certain things, I think a packet driver vector by default at 0x62 - these are beginning to be very DOS type things, I suspect. I do recall other ethernet cards having packet driver 'shims' available - years ago I tried one to use Kermit over ethernet on a desktop. I guess it may depend on your actual card. I get the impression SimTel is the place to look, or possibly this place: http://www.danlan.com/ William D.Ll.Brown ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:57:48 -0400 Reply-To: "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: clanky space-bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I repaired a broken space key with superglue over two years ago. It served well for 19 months of daily use - and it still works fine - but I retired the system to the spare parts drawer when I acquired a like-new 200LX and transplanted the motherboard into that one. (Well, actually, it first went into a 100LX with a better screen, then later into this 200LX.) So, the superglue repair can indeed be long lasting (and very inexpensive). Alan >From: Ian Butler [mailto:ianb@HPLX.NET] >Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 2:58 PM >... >The space bar problem, also >seen with the Enter key, is usually caused by months and years of not >hitting the key in the center, which causes uneven wear on the two tabs >that hold the Space and Enter keys to the plastic frame. Eventually one >of them breaks and the key becomes wiggly and clicks a lot. It usually >doesn't last very long in this condition before the second tab breaks and >the key is at risk of falling out. Superglue seems to work reasonably >well for resealing the tabs to the plastic frame, but I don't know if >anybody has tested this long-term. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:47:37 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: PC Connection instead of modem./ Goin Postal Question On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Questor Jones wrote: > Any insights (or web links) on how to use my PC to > get/send email that I can later read/respond offline > would be appreciated. You don't say what OS your PC runs, but I feel compelled to point out that the Palmtop News Reader (PNR) will read UNIX mail files. It is simple to transfer a copy of an inbox to a location where PNR can grab it. Sending e-mail would be a different matter, but should be doable with scripting. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:40:58 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: clanky space-bar Feldman, Robert writes: > I would use a plastic solvent rather than superglue. In the US, several > types are Tenax 7R, Plastruct Bondene, and Testor's solvent cement -- ask at > a good hobby/model shop for some (whatever brand is sold in your country). > You use a minimal drop of these solvents to melt the plastic, allowing it to > flow together and "weld" together. Superglue forms a layer of a different > material between the plastic surfaces, and is more likely to come apart than > a good solvent weld. This is a good idea. I had been considering trying to weld the break with a soldering iron, but this sounds more promising. Does anybody know what polymer is used for the keys? This information would help in selecting the most appropriate solvent. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:06:07 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: clanky space-bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theodore Heise" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: Re: clanky space-bar [snip] > > This is a good idea. I had been considering trying to weld the break > with a soldering iron, but this sounds more promising. Does anybody > know what polymer is used for the keys? This information would help > in selecting the most appropriate solvent. usually it's printed on an invisible part (I mean, invisible to the user, so on the downside of alike), so likely there's a small logo somewhere to be found on your keyboard. Niels > > -- > Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:31:23 -0700 Reply-To: joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Buford Subject: Re: FTP Server: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I received the below message from "Joe H. Smith" I don't know what it was but our firewall caught it. Joe-are you out there? Joe ---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on 10/02/2002 10:28 AM --------------------------- "Joe H. Smith" on 10/02/2002 09:37:59 AM To: cc: Subject: Re: FTP Server: [Filename: NEC cdrom software installation for os7.5.3_files.exe, Content-Type: audio/x-midi] The content of this attachment has been stripped. Attachments of this file type are not allowed to enter the Boeing email system. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:03:18 -0700 Reply-To: "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Subject: Omnibook 800 problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Daniel, I don't own an Omnibook but I had the same problem with a Toshiba laptop. There was an option in the Bios where you could choose the amount of energy left in the Battery. Everytime I took out the battery the computer would "forget" how much energy was left and you had to manually select it in the bios. Cheers, Inigo PD: You should be really careful when upgrading the Bios in a computer!!! I wouldn't reccommend doing it (and neither will the manufacturer) unless your computer is working really poorly and you are almost forced to. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 21:42:50 -0700 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? In-Reply-To: <200209020847.PNR03788@netins.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 07:03:31 +0200 Reply-To: Vagner Martin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Vagner Martin Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, it should has some kind of clkup driver in its config.sys. -----Original Message----- From: Questor Jones [mailto:questor_jones@YAHOO.COM] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 6:43 AM To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:12:06 -0700 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? Comments: To: Vagner Martin In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii But what if it doesn't? Like if it is completely wiped out becuase of no batteries. It would still boot up I imagine, maybe have some slight problems (display?). But is there a diagnostic or simple way to tell on an empty LX? Questor --- Vagner Martin wrote: > Yes, it should has some kind of clkup driver in its > config.sys. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Questor Jones [mailto:questor_jones@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 6:43 AM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? > > > Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop > up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit? > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 01:09:55 -0500 Reply-To: Daniel Turner Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Turner Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > But what if it doesn't? > > Like if it is completely wiped out becuase of no > batteries. It would still boot up I imagine, maybe > have some slight problems (display?). > > But is there a diagnostic or simple way to tell on an > empty LX? Do the doublespeed drivers show any status messages? What happens if you try to install the driver on a LX that ISNT a doublespeed? i.e. load the drivers..if they load ok, great! if not..then its not a doublespeed. Or do the drivers just let you slow some things down? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:10:07 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit if you have a 'normal' 200lx around, try running several programs and see if it is faster... I know I've just kicked in an open door, but it seems no one thought of it ;) Or I missed the fact that Questor doesn't have more than 1 lx niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Questor Jones" To: Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 6:42 AM Subject: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? > Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop > up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit? > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:37:42 +0100 Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Svagr, Radek" Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Run self test (ESC-ON) and select timers. If the timer test fails and value will be 2x higher than shown limit you are doublespeeded:-)) Radek ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:14:03 +0200 Reply-To: Michel Bel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michel Bel Subject: Re: FTP Server: Comments: To: joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Got it too, but I circumvented it by looking via 'webmail', must be a virus. Anyway, I deleted it without further scrutiny. It was a 57KB enclosure. Michel ----- Origineel Bericht ----- Van: Joe Buford Datum: Woensdag, Oktober 2, 2002 7:31 pm Onderwerp: Re: FTP Server: > I received the below message from "Joe H. Smith" > > I don't know what it was but our firewall caught it. > > Joe-are you out there? > > Joe > ---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on > 10/02/2002 10:28 AM --------------------------- > > > "Joe H. Smith" on 10/02/2002 09:37:59 AM > > To: > cc: > > Subject: Re: FTP Server: > > > [Filename: NEC cdrom software installation for os7.5.3_files.exe, > Content-Type: audio/x-midi] > The content of this attachment has been stripped. Attachments of > this file > type are not allowed to enter the Boeing email system. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:25:57 +0100 Reply-To: Ron Shanks Associates Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kerwin Robertson Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you boot up a doublespeed without any drivers the screen looks a little funny, the left hand side shows some corruption and the whole screen might be shifted to the right a little, if you go into most programs they will show the same problem, hope this helps, regards, Kerwin Robertson CAD Manager Ron Shanks Associates 107 Urquhart Road ABERDEEN AB24 5NH Tel: 01224 644441 Fax: 01224 644448 Email: rsa@rsc.co.uk IMPORTANT - This email is intended for the above-named only. It may contain privileged and / or confidential information. If it has come to you in error, please notify the sender immediately You should not copy this email, disclose it's contents to anyone else or take any action based on it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Questor Jones To: Sent: 03 October 2002 5:42 AM Subject: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:52:26 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: FTP Server: In-Reply-To: <1c16619933.199331c166@zonnet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [French subscribers, read that !!!] Le Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:14:03 +0200 Michel Bel a =E9crit: > must be a virus.=20 Yes, it is "Bubgear", a new virus which is spreading very fast since monday. I received the same "FTP Server" message yesterday. Like Klez, Bubgear creates a fake "From:" field by reading the adress book of the infected machine. But this one is a little more "funny", as it creates a fake address by combining parts of two real ones. Then difficult to detremine the origin of the mail. But when you receive a message apparently originating from : hplxmail@NETINS.NET (ie. the Avi's login followed by a capitalized domain name) you can be almost sure that it originates from an hplx-l subscriber. This is confirmed by the fact that you have received the same virus. Now, the good part: Even if the From address is fake, you can perhaps determine the owner of the machine, by reading the lowest "Received" field. For this message, I received : Received: from omnibook (nas-cbv-9-62-147-214-246.dial.proxad.net [62= .147.214.246]) It means that it is originating from a machine named "omnibook" [remember it is only an user-defined name] connected from the Free.fr french ISP, using the Courbevoie (Paris suburbs) node.=20 I made some research in my archives, but not found the originator. In any case, it is not Nathalie nor Erwann. French lurkers, check your machine ! Last info, the message was sent at : Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 18:37:59 +0200 (CEST) Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:12:31 +0100 Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Svagr, Radek" Subject: virus in 200lx :-)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Yesterday had my antivirus software in 200LX Christmas;-)) I received strange e-mail with attachment so I saved it and Scan for Dos found a w32 Klez clone - very powefull virus in 200lx ;-))) Radek ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:35:02 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Questor Jones wrote: > Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop > up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit? I have a 82 kB SYSINFO.EXE for that purpose amongst others. I have no idea as to its status or age - the highest power reference in the benchmarks is a 386/33. I see no problem in sharing it with anyone from the list, but I suppose the status is not clear enaugh for SUPER. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:16:34 +0800 Reply-To: Jorgen Wallgren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Outlook <=> HPLX Converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I downloaded Curtis Cameron's Outlook <=3D> HPLX Version 3.03, and that's a great program!!! I have tested it with Outlook 2002, and over all looks like it works great. But I have one problem: In the appointments, the Location is never transfered over. And since it's good to know where the meeting is. I would like to check if anyone here experienced this problem and have some advice. Thanks, Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:20:59 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Organization: Goeldi.com Subject: Re: Outlook <=> HPLX Converter Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And how about all those users with Outlook Express? I don't want to buy Office only to use such a converter. Is there a way? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:45:38 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Questor 07h58m ago Questor Jones wrote: > Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop > up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit? Pull out the backup battery. Behind it there is the crystal. Try if you can read something on it. If there is a 15.xxx it is single speed, if you can read 31.xxx, it is doublespeed. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 05:58:02 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? In-Reply-To: <3D9C1D56.B3AE685D@Nexgo.De> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Axel Berger wrote: > I have a 82 kB SYSINFO.EXE for that purpose amongst others. I have no > idea as to its status or age - the highest power reference in the > benchmarks is a 386/33. I see no problem in sharing it with anyone > from the list, but I suppose the status is not clear enaugh for SUPER. You could use LXSTAT, which was specifically designed for the palmtop and has an incredible number of features. It will report the precise clock frequency of your LX. Single-speed palmtops will report at around 16MHz and double-speed palmtops at around 31MHz, although the actual speed is half that. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:11:50 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: FTP Server: In-Reply-To: <20021003112520.6655.JBELIN@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Jacques Belin wrote: > [French subscribers, read that !!!] [description of the 'bugbear' effect :)] > In any case, it is not Nathalie nor Erwann. Yep! Since I don't use Windows to read my mail, I think I'm protected enough ;) To stay off-topic, I'm the victim of a new kind of spam (new for me). The spammer is sending a lot of emails with my email address in the 'From', 'To', 'Reply-To' and 'Errors-To' fields. Of course, I receive a lot of emails from mail servers telling me 'this mailbox doesn't exist', and a few emails from real people asking me to remove them from my mailing lists... I can't do anything against it, and it's really anoying... :( -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:06:53 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: FTP Server: Comments: To: Jacques Belin In-Reply-To: <20021003112520.6655.JBELIN@altern.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 10/3/02-04:52 AM, you wrote: >[French subscribers, read that !!!] > >Le Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:14:03 +0200 >Michel Bel a =E9crit: > > > must be a virus. > >Yes, it is "Bubgear", a new virus which is spreading very fast since >monday. > >I received the same "FTP Server" message yesterday. > >Like Klez, Bubgear creates a fake "From:" field by reading the adress >book of the infected machine. But this one is a little more "funny", as >it creates a fake address by combining parts of two real ones. > >Then difficult to detremine the origin of the mail. > >But when you receive a message apparently originating from : > hplxmail@NETINS.NET >(ie. the Avi's login followed by a capitalized domain name) you can be >almost sure that it originates from an hplx-l subscriber. EXCEPT that my domain name is alwaysafe.com, not NETINS.NET - don't pin=20 this virus on me please! >This is confirmed by the fact that you have received the same virus. > >Now, the good part: >Even if the From address is fake, you can perhaps determine the owner of >the machine, by reading the lowest "Received" field. >For this message, I received : > Received: from omnibook (nas-cbv-9-62-147-214-246.dial.proxad.net=20 > [62.147.214.246]) > >It means that it is originating from a machine named "omnibook" >[remember it is only an user-defined name] connected from the Free.fr >french ISP, using the Courbevoie (Paris suburbs) node. >I made some research in my archives, but not found the originator. >In any case, it is not Nathalie nor Erwann. And it is NOT ME either, I live in Eagan, Minnesota! I wonder if this related to some strange emails I have been receiving on my= =20 Yahoo email address. They are all empty! I do not recall the sender's email= =20 addresses, but it always has one of two forms: 1. avislogin@xxxxxxx.com where avislogin is the Yahoo mail login and xxxxx is a variety of domain= names. or 2. avislogin@xxxxx.avislogin.com or avislogin@xxxxavislogin.xxxxxx.com very strange stuff. I am not getting any of these in my usual mailboxes, only on Yahoo mail. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:12:14 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Annoying Spam-Virus? [was: Re: FTP Server:] Comments: To: Erwann ABALEA In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10/3/02-08:11 AM, Erwann ABALEA wrote: >To stay off-topic, I'm the victim of a new kind of spam (new for me). The >spammer is sending a lot of emails with my email address in the 'From', >'To', 'Reply-To' and 'Errors-To' fields. Of course, I receive a lot of >emails from mail servers telling me 'this mailbox doesn't exist', and a >few emails from real people asking me to remove them from my mailing >lists... > >I can't do anything against it, and it's really anoying... :( That is very nasty. Isn't there anything in the original email these people get - allegedly from you - that can be used to track down the source? Wouldn't there be info in the headers of the original message that shows who really sent it? Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:37:32 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: Annoying Spam-Virus? [was: Re: FTP Server:] In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021003080905.024d19b0@mail.alwaysafe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Avi Meshar wrote: > At 10/3/02-08:11 AM, Erwann ABALEA wrote: > >I can't do anything against it, and it's really anoying... :( > > That is very nasty. Isn't there anything in the original email these people > get - allegedly from you - that can be used to track down the source? > Wouldn't there be info in the headers of the original message that shows > who really sent it? Unfortunately no. They seem to have been sent from several sources. I only have an IP address, but it keeps changing. The resolution shows several countries involved (Italy, Taiwan, and others). Hopefully I'm no more in vacation, and I have my ADSL line. Maybe someone's angry against me (I've had some words with a pseudo-journalist in France, a really mad guy). -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:37:23 -0500 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Annoying Spam-Virus? [was: Re: FTP Server:] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Isn't this sort of what the Kletz virus does? Someone you know gets the virus, then the virus goes through their address book and gets your name from it and forges the e-mails that it sends out to people in the boook to appear to be from you. What you get is a lot of mail from servers and people complaining that you sent them a virus, but you didn't. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:44:46 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: Annoying Spam-Virus? [was: Re: FTP Server:] In-Reply-To: <3D9C6433.9040908@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Bryan Biggers wrote: > Isn't this sort of what the Kletz virus does? Someone you know > gets the virus, then the virus goes through their address book > and gets your name from it and forges the e-mails that it sends > out to people in the boook to appear to be from you. What you get > is a lot of mail from servers and people complaining that you > sent them a virus, but you didn't. Bryan It doesn't seem to be the Kletz virus, because I didn't receive any complaint from an antivirus-equipped mailserver because a virus was found in a mail. -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:48:36 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part of their program to fight spam. Since I get 50-75 spams a day doing 1 at a time is a pain. Is there a way to tag all the spam email and then forward them with a single command somehow? I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:48:34 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? Comments: To: Questor Jones MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Questor Jones wrote: > Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop > up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit? Well it should be faster. I just did a: DIR D:\*.* /S and it took about 6 seconds to scroll the ROM disk files past on my double speed 200LX. I assume a single speed would take longer. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:20:39 -0500 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What does the government do with all the spam? Are they going to save it up and send it all to Iraq or something? Does this actually do any good? If it did, I'd like to send them some of mine. Bryan Russel Brooks wrote: > I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part of their > program to fight spam. Since I get 50-75 spams a day doing 1 at > a time is a pain. Is there a way to tag all the spam email and > then forward them with a single command somehow? > > I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters. > > Cheers... Russ > > DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:12:58 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? Comments: To: Russel Brooks In-Reply-To: <200210032148.g93LmaT15262@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10/3/02-04:48 PM, you wrote: >Is there a way to tag all the spam email and then forward them with a >single command somehow? > >I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters. Not that I remember. Sorry. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:50:07 -0700 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: ESC-ON Diagnostics In-Reply-To: <200210032148.g93LmZT15257@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone know of a URL/web site that describes the ESC-ON diagnostics and what each one means? I tried to run TEST-ALL and it seems to just wait at the keyboard test for me to hits keys....after about 3 keys, it fails...very odd. I just looking for something saying which tests to run, what to expect and any special instructions. I imagine there was probably an article in the palmtop paper, but that would take days to weed through them all. I can't find anything in the index of the manual under "Diagnostics"... Questor. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:32:00 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: ESC-ON Diagnostics Comments: To: Questor Jones In-Reply-To: <20021004035007.95409.qmail@web20413.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10/3/02-10:50 PM, Questor Jones wrote: >Does anyone know of a URL/web site that describes the >ESC-ON diagnostics and what each one means? > >I tried to run TEST-ALL and it seems to just wait at >the keyboard test for me to hits keys....after about 3 >keys, it fails...very odd. If you test the keyboard, you MUST hit the keys one at a time, from top to bottom, left to right. It EXPECTS the keys to be hit that way. If you change the order, it gets the "wrong key" and will flag an error. Other tests you move the highlight to and press enter repeatedly if there is more than one test in the group. Good luck. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 00:18:32 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Subject: OT: recomendations for domain regestration? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello I've got a domain name coming up for renewal and I'm thinking there might be a better choice than my current one (NSI/Verisign). I only use it as a permanent E-mail address, I haven't even got a web site yet. Any recommendations? -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:07:58 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: FTP Server: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Erwann and other wvirus-annoyed people, 16h03m ago Erwann ABALEA wrote: > To stay off-topic, I'm the victim of a new kind of spam (new for me). The > spammer is sending a lot of emails with my email address in the 'From', > 'To', 'Reply-To' and 'Errors-To' fields. Of course, I receive a lot of > emails from mail servers telling me 'this mailbox doesn't exist', and a > few emails from real people asking me to remove them from my mailing > lists... I think the simplest and most effective anti-virus-mechanism for Outlook users is to not use the Outlook address book, but a plain text file instead. a bit more copy'n'paste is needed then, but it shouldn't be too inconvenient. Use a text editor with sorting capability and a good search function built-in. Still more convenient than handling all the viruses. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:22:37 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: OT: recomendations for domain regestration? In-Reply-To: <3D9D24A8.DAEFCF2F@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Andrew wrote: > I've got a domain name coming up for renewal and I'm thinking there > might be a better choice than my current one (NSI/Verisign). > I only use it as a permanent E-mail address, I haven't even got a web > site yet. > Any recommendations? I tested Gandi, it's much cheaper, and the administration of your domain name is done with your browser. The point is that if something goes wrong while transferring your domain name from NSI to Gandi, you will be email-less. -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:23:39 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? In-Reply-To: <3D9CECE7.4010303@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- 04h57m ago Bryan Biggers wrote: > > Is there a way to tag all the spam email and > > then forward them with a single command somehow? > > > > I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters. > > > > Cheers... Russ Russ, you could tag them and do a block move to a special folder box called say spam.i, then just attach spam.i to one e-mail. -- -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:00:01 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 11 seconds, on my (afaik) unmodified 700lx [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Brooks" To: Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:48 PM Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? > Questor Jones wrote: > > Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop > > up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit? > > Well it should be faster. I just did a: DIR D:\*.* /S > and it took about 6 seconds to scroll the ROM disk files past > on my double speed 200LX. > > I assume a single speed would take longer. > > Cheers... Russ > > DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:09:25 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: FTP Server: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit or one can use a virusscanner ;) I know mcaffee does a good job, norton probably too. Personally I do not use a virusscanner, only if I'm not sure about some program I downloaded somewhere... If an email contains a virus, it's usually very easy to see... it always comes with a message the sending person would never send you, it might even be someone you don't know... Also the email is an executable file (.exe, .com, .bat, .pif, .cpl, .vbs, .js, .chm, .scr and probably others). Most of the time someone sends you an executable it's an .exe so if it's one of the others I certainly do not thrust it. Anyway I verify with the sender first, if it's a safe file. And I scan it ;) If I do not thrust an email I throw it. If it was no virus and important, the sender will resend it anyway. Just be cautious with you email and you can use your adressbook savely in outlook. for an instant scan go to http://housecall.antivirus.com... Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:07 AM Subject: Re: FTP Server: > Hi Erwann and other wvirus-annoyed people, > > 16h03m ago Erwann ABALEA wrote: > > > To stay off-topic, I'm the victim of a new kind of spam (new for me). The > > spammer is sending a lot of emails with my email address in the 'From', > > 'To', 'Reply-To' and 'Errors-To' fields. Of course, I receive a lot of > > emails from mail servers telling me 'this mailbox doesn't exist', and a > > few emails from real people asking me to remove them from my mailing > > lists... > > I think the simplest and most effective anti-virus-mechanism for > Outlook users is to not use the Outlook address book, but a plain text > file instead. a bit more copy'n'paste is needed then, but it shouldn't > be too inconvenient. Use a text editor with sorting capability and a > good search function built-in. Still more convenient than handling all > the viruses. > > GTX > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:20:09 +0200 Reply-To: Michel Bel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michel Bel Subject: OT: Re: recomendations for domain regestration? Comments: To: Andrew MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use 'Godaddy' - http://www.godaddy.com , they ask USD 9 going down to USD 7 ( 10 year ) per year, and have lots of cheap mailer etc option. _recommended_ ! Met vriendelijke groet, kind regards, Michel Bel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:18 AM Subject: OT: recomendations for domain regestration? > Hello > I've got a domain name coming up for renewal and I'm thinking there > might be a better choice than my current one (NSI/Verisign). > I only use it as a permanent E-mail address, I haven't even got a web > site yet. > Any recommendations? > -- > Andrew King > Ann Arbor Michigan > technology is the answer, what was the question? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:28:30 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: FTP Server: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Niels wrote: > Just be cautious with you email > and you can use your adressbook savely in outlook. Agreed. I use netscape, which if not intrinsically safer is less abused by viruses. There may be one thing though: From what I have read OE starts and runs some things on its own and it seems to be rather involved and difficult to disable that. On top of that it does not send RIDs. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:52:14 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? In-Reply-To: <002101c26b7c$0bdaf190$060210ac@tommy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Niels wrote: > 11 seconds, on my (afaik) unmodified 700lx 9 seconds on my Single Speed HP200LX, with 4DOS. > From: "Russel Brooks" > > > > Well it should be faster. I just did a: DIR D:\*.* /S > > and it took about 6 seconds to scroll the ROM disk files past > > on my double speed 200LX. > > > > I assume a single speed would take longer. -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:02:55 +0100 Reply-To: "Brown, William D" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William D" Subject: Re: Outlook <=> HPLX Converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I use it too. That is odd, I'm sure an earlier version had that problem and Curtis fixed it. I use Outlook 97 though. It works very well, but you do have to make sure if you work Outlook offline and online that you eliminate any internal conflicts in outlook (crossed sword icons) or you get 'cannot find form' messages and some things don't transfer. I now use it like this: 1. Copy .ADB file to PC card on LX. 2. Put card in laptop, synch LX->Outlook. 3. Clean up data in Outlook - purge old appointments, eliminate any duplicates etc. 4. Create new .ADB file on PC card using Outlook ->LX 5. Put card back in LX, copy .ADB file to c:\_DAT replacing the 'live' .ADB file. Occasionally I use CPACK to view the .ADB file on the laptop, to be sure what is going on. The location fields to get truncated on the LX - and this can lead to duplicates as when it synchs back to Outlook it sees a different appointment. Some folk write TC contact details in the location for Outlook, which is way long. But it certainly works. My OL2LX.EXE is internal version 3.00.0004. William D.Ll.Brown ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:10:10 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: OT: Re: Re: FTP Server: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:28 AM Subject: Re: FTP Server: > Niels wrote: > > Just be cautious with you email > > and you can use your adressbook savely in outlook. > > Agreed. I use netscape, which if not intrinsically safer is less abused > by viruses. There may be one thing though: From what I have read OE > starts and runs some things on its own and it seems to be rather > involved and difficult to disable that. On top of that it does not send > RIDs. > Hi Axel, You say, that OE 'starts and runs some things on its own'.. what things do you mean that can help virusses spread? You probably mean the automatic-mime-type execution (or something like that?)...thus that it automatically executes the attachment when it's mimetype is set to audio/wav? An update fixes that, but it's been a big issue indeed. And, what do you mean by RID's? Niels ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:20:03 -0400 Reply-To: Sales@Systems-Consulting.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Paul Anderson@Systems-Consulting" Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? In-Reply-To: <002101c26b7c$0bdaf190$060210ac@tommy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 5 seconds on my 200LX Double Speed Thanks, Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russel Brooks" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:48 PM > Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell? > > > > Questor Jones wrote: > > > Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop > > > up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit? > > > > Well it should be faster. I just did a: DIR D:\*.* /S > > and it took about 6 seconds to scroll the ROM disk files past > > on my double speed 200LX. > > > > I assume a single speed would take longer. > > > > Cheers... Russ > > > > DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:18:18 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: ESC-ON Diagnostics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Questor 07h43m ago Questor Jones wrote: > I tried to run TEST-ALL and it seems to just wait at > the keyboard test for me to hits keys....after about 3 > keys, it fails...very odd. The number in front of the keyboard test menu item tells you which key to press next: 101 means 1st row, 1st key (esc)., 205 means 2nd row, fifth key (MEMO) and so on. The keyboard test wants you to press the keys from left to right and top to bottom. It will respond to each keypress with a beep and if you are done pressing ALL keys, it confirms "test OK" or so. > I just looking for something saying which tests to > run, what to expect and any special instructions. The usual word of warinign: NEVER try the RAM card test while a Flash card is inserted, it can make the card useless, at least corrupt the data on it. The test is designed for SRAM cards. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:32:47 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: ESC-ON Diagnostics Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:18 PM Subject: Re: ESC-ON Diagnostics [snip] > The usual word of warinign: NEVER try the RAM card test while a Flash > card is inserted, it can make the card useless, at least corrupt the > data on it. The test is designed for SRAM cards. > aha! so that's the reason my card got corrupted...at first there was no problem but later on (a few days), there was. The test told me 'card bad' or something. Fdisk100 made it work again but everything got trashed... (including my backup project I was working on earlier :( ) and lately I was playing again with the tests, but with another card... filled with over 50megz..uhoh...I go backup it before it won't work anymore like the previous one *uhoh* thanks for the warning! I won't do it again... I promise! Niels > > GTX > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 06:35:16 -0700 Reply-To: joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Buford Subject: Re: FTP Server: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Jacques, I actually rx 2 messages. Both are forwarded below. and both were stoped by the firewall here at Boeing. Avi, I didn't think it came from you, but it gave a clue as to where the "virus" got my email. Joe >Yes, it is "Bubgear", a new virus which is spreading very fast since >monday. >I received the same "FTP Server" message yesterday. >book of the infected machine. But this one is a little more "funny", as >it creates a fake address by combining parts of two real ones. >But when you receive a message apparently originating from : > hplxmail@NETINS.NET >(ie. the Avi's login followed by a capitalized domain name) you can be >almost sure that it originates from an hplx-l subscriber. >This is confirmed by the fact that you have received the same virus. >Now, the good part: >Even if the From address is fake, you can perhaps determine the owner of >the machine, by reading the lowest "Received" field. >For this message, I received : > Received: from omnibook (nas-cbv-9-62-147-214-246.dial.proxad.net [62= >.147.214.246]) >It means that it is originating from a machine named "omnibook" >[remember it is only an user-defined name] connected from the Free.fr >french ISP, using the Courbevoie (Paris suburbs) node.=20 >I made some research in my archives, but not found the originator. >In any case, it is not Nathalie nor Erwann. >French lurkers, check your machine ! >Last info, the message was sent at : > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 18:37:59 +0200 (CEST) >Jacques. ---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on 10/04/2002 06:34 AM --------------------------- "Joe H. Smith" on 10/02/2002 09:37:59 AM To: cc: Subject: Re: FTP Server: [Filename: NEC cdrom software installation for os7.5.3_files.exe, Content-Type: audio/x-midi] The content of this attachment has been stripped. Attachments of this file type are not allowed to enter the Boeing email system. ---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on 10/04/2002 06:34 AM --------------------------- "Barbara Rudie" on 10/02/2002 12:34:03 PM To: cc: Subject: Hello! [Filename: Cornerstone Questions.txt.scr, Content-Type: audio/x-midi] The content of this attachment has been stripped. Attachments of this file type are not allowed to enter the Boeing email system. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:00:32 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Brooks" To: Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? > I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part of their > program to fight spam. Since I get 50-75 spams a day doing 1 at > a time is a pain. Is there a way to tag all the spam email and > then forward them with a single command somehow? I heard on Tech TV this morning that a study has determined that the amount of spam on the internet has increased fourfold since this time last year. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:55:08 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: OT: Re: Re: FTP Server: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit download a bugbear removal tool here: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.bugbear@mm.remov al.tool.html just came across it, it might be handy for some of you ;) [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niels" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: OT: Re: Re: FTP Server: > [n] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Axel Berger" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:28 AM > Subject: Re: FTP Server: > > > > Niels wrote: > > > Just be cautious with you email > > > and you can use your adressbook savely in outlook. > > > > Agreed. I use netscape, which if not intrinsically safer is less abused > > by viruses. There may be one thing though: From what I have read OE > > starts and runs some things on its own and it seems to be rather > > involved and difficult to disable that. On top of that it does not send > > RIDs. > > > > Hi Axel, > > You say, that OE 'starts and runs some things on its own'.. what things do > you mean that can help virusses spread? You probably mean the > automatic-mime-type execution (or something like that?)...thus that it > automatically executes the attachment when it's mimetype is set to > audio/wav? An update fixes that, but it's been a big issue indeed. > And, what do you mean by RID's? > > Niels > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 09:06:25 -0500 Reply-To: "Nirody, Suresh" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Nirody, Suresh" Subject: FW: OT RE: Outlook <=> HPLX Converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C26BAF.39B02850" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C26BAF.39B02850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Off topic, but may be of interest for anyone thinking of getting a Nokia communicator. In its Calendar application there is no place for location, so when you synch it with Outlook you NEVER get this. I'm not sure why anyone would think this was OK ;( Suresh -----Original Message----- From: Jorgen Wallgren [mailto:wallgren@SINGNET.COM.SG] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:17 AM Subject: Outlook <=> HPLX Converter Hi, I downloaded Curtis Cameron's Outlook <=> HPLX Version 3.03, and that's a great program!!! I have tested it with Outlook 2002, and over all looks like it works great. But I have one problem: ------_=_NextPart_001_01C26BAF.39B02850 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FW: OT RE: Outlook <=3D> HPLX Converter

Off topic, but may be of interest for anyone thinking = of getting a Nokia communicator. In its  Calendar application = there is no place for location, so when you synch it with Outlook you = NEVER get this. I'm not sure why anyone would think this was OK = ;(

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From: Jorgen Wallgren [mailto:wallgren@SINGNET.COM.SG]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:17 AM
Subject: Outlook <=3D> HPLX Converter


Hi,

I downloaded Curtis Cameron's Outlook <=3D> = HPLX Version 3.03, and that's
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C26BAF.39B02850-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:25:36 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Non-pcmcia ethernet for the 200LX. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have been thinking about ethernet for the 200LX masses, e.g. the people without 32+ MB internal RAM, who cannot sacrifice the PCMCIA slot. It means the LX serial port could be used. I realize 115kbps is not much speed in a LAN, but better than nothing. Recently found two things, that may be of interest for the above purpose: - One is called the AVR ethernet controller, designed by a japanese electronics enthusiast. It consists of one only three active elements: the Realtek 8019AS ethernet chip, one ATMEGA163-8PC (a 8-bit/16k risc microcontroller) and a MAX238 serial port ic. On one end it has 10megabit TX ethernet, the other end is plain 9-pin serial. And a complete design layout is provided for free. Could it be used by the palmtop? - The other thingie is called the DECServer 90TL. This is a book-sized box, that accepts up to 7 serial devices (at 57.6kbps max) and provides them with access to ethernet tcp/ip networks over PPP. Sorrowfully it has only a BNC (coax) ethernet output, so you need some converter to plug it into todays twisted pair networks. (Some cheaper HUBs still have one BNC connector, however). The interesting issue is, this box would theoretically allow you to use the same connection method (PPP) to internet when you are at home/office or on the road. I just got one DEC 90TL, so I could test or lend it to someone to test. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:55:12 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Text convertion question Comments: To: Yves Leurquin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, I give up. I have studied the sample reg exp at the end of this post, together with TexPad's information on how to use regular expressions, plus some Google searches to try to educate myself, but somehow I just cannot get it to work yet correctly yet. Could someone help me with the appropiate regular expression? Here is an example of the type of outline I need to convert, from the source format below to simple Tab delimited output, such as Pal Edit produces (In this example, between the first period and the first character there is supposed to be a single ascii tab, but it doesn't come out in Outlook Express) : Goals 1. Teaching 1.1 Expanded teaching search 1.2 Drop cards at Spring Valley and other schools 2. Home 2.1 Schedule of things to do around house 3. Other working 3.1 Apply for subbing at different schools 3.2 Investigate school music teaching 3.3 Investigate other working options 4. Gig Music 4.1 Pursue more Gig music 4.2 Search for more sheet music and tracks 4.3 Find a partner 5. Personal 6. Master's 6.1 What schools can I take the classes at? 6.1.1 Bibliography & Research 6.1.2 20th Cent Music 6.2 Strings Literature 6.2.1 Find libraries to continue the work at The desired output should be something like this (again, with tabs, not spaces): Goals Teaching Expanded teaching search Drop cards at Spring Valley and other schools Home (etc.) Any and all help appreciated. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yves Leurquin" > You mean manual replace? That's what I am trying to avoid. I want > automatic replace. > I have the 2002 version (and the personal version), which produces outlines > in the format you mention, but without the TABS. No, I mean automatic replace through regular expression using TextPad or similar application i.e. replace all digit followed by a dot by 3 spaces ([0-9][.] -> " " ) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:19:02 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: FTP Server: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Niels 10h01m ago Niels wrote: > or one can use a virusscanner ;) > I know mcaffee does a good job, norton probably too. Yes, one can. But I think preventing a virus to work is always better than wiping it out after it has done its work. And since most viruses of today are targeted to the Outlook address book, the ultimate solution to stop spreading of viruses - at least for a certain amount of time until the virus creators have new ideas - is obviously to deplete the address book. Or to use another mail client than Outlook. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:19:01 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Russ, 20h17m ago Russel Brooks wrote: > I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part of their > program to fight spam. Since I get 50-75 spams a day doing 1 at > a time is a pain. Is there a way to tag all the spam email and > then forward them with a single command somehow? Not built into Post/LX I think, but you could use something like that: 1. Filter the spam into another Post/LX mailbox (not a folder). If you want to send all the span, use a batch file and some sort of filter program, maybe sed is sufficient, to do the following: 2. Rename the mailbox.i file to mailbox.o 3. Set the send flag at the beginning of every email, sed could do that maybe 4. Change all To: addresses to uce@..., which can probably also dome by sed 5. return to Post/LX and go online to send the spam mails. I don't know if that would work. But I would try it that way. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:35:49 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: FTP Server: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mcaffee does delete the virus _before_ it has done it's malicious job... that's why I mentioned it... [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: Re: FTP Server: > Hi Niels > > 10h01m ago Niels wrote: > > > or one can use a virusscanner ;) > > I know mcaffee does a good job, norton probably too. > > Yes, one can. But I think preventing a virus to work is always better > than wiping it out after it has done its work. > And since most viruses of today are targeted to the Outlook address > book, the ultimate solution to stop spreading of viruses - at least for > a certain amount of time until the virus creators have new ideas - is > obviously to deplete the address book. Or to use another mail client > than Outlook. > > GTX > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:33:54 +0200 Reply-To: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Russ, I had to do it very seldom in the past; I can count this using one hand. In mode message view I press shft-F10 and store the message in a temp directory (c:\tmp\multi.txt). The next message I like to forward is appended the same way; and so on. Finally multi.txt will be attached to the composed message. The distributed messages then will look like as I did read them, no extra header lines etc. After I did send it I delete the file multi.txt. Most of it could be done by a macro. Kind regards Helmuth > I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part of their > program to fight spam. Since I get 50-75 spams a day doing 1 at > a time is a pain. Is there a way to tag all the spam email and > then forward them with a single command somehow? > > I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters. > > Cheers... Russ > > DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:48:36 +0000 From: Russel Brooks Subject: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part of their program to fight spam. Since I get 50-75 spams a day doing 1 at a time is a pain. Is there a way to tag all the spam email and then forward them with a single command somehow? I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:23:39 +1200 From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu -- 04h57m ago Bryan Biggers wrote: > > Is there a way to tag all the spam email and > > then forward them with a single command somehow? > > > > I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters. > > > > Cheers... Russ Russ, you could tag them and do a block move to a special folder box called say spam.i, then just attach spam.i to one e-mail. -- -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:15:27 -0500 Reply-To: n2vip@VERIZON.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Text convertion question Comments: To: Domingo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not a regex expert, but it seems to me that you could just filter or translate each line like this (crude pseudocode): ^[0-9].[0-9].[0-9]/b -> ^[0-9].[0-9]/b -> ^[0-9]./b -> etc. (^ = start of line, /b - end of word/whitespace, -> = translate to) Multiple digits are left as an exercise for the reader ;^) I think there are many tools that can accomplish this, you could even use a streaming editor (sed), the translate tool (tr) or other unix tool... (if available) The same might be possible by manually doing each translation (starting with deepest nesting first) in nearly any editor. Hope this helps... Ken > > From: Domingo > Date: 2002/10/04 Fri PM 12:55:12 CDT > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Text convertion question > > Okay, I give up. I have studied the sample reg exp at the end of this > post, together with TexPad's information on how to use regular expressions, > plus some Google searches to try to educate myself, but somehow I just > cannot get it to work yet correctly yet. Could someone help me with the > appropiate regular expression? Here is an example of the type of outline I > need to convert, from the source format below to simple Tab delimited > output, such as Pal Edit produces (In this example, between the first period > and the first character there is supposed to be a single ascii tab, but it > doesn't come out in Outlook Express) : > > Goals > 1. Teaching > 1.1 Expanded teaching search > 1.2 Drop cards at Spring Valley and other schools > 2. Home > 2.1 Schedule of things to do around house > The desired output should be something like this (again, with tabs, not > spaces): > Goals > Teaching > Expanded teaching search > Drop cards at Spring Valley and other schools > Home > (etc.) > > Any and all help appreciated. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:25:28 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Fw: missing parts for my 700lx/2110 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Niels wrote: > perhaps I missed an email, but are you still in? Please bear with me - my mother complained about my being slow when I was but a little boy. But thwere a a few other things I want to order and it will be done soon. (My daughter is here for a fortnight, perhaps zthat may help as a partial excuse.) Danke Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:44:40 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: OT: Re: Re: FTP Server: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Niels wrote: > You probably mean the > automatic-mime-type execution (or something like that?) > ...thus that it automatically executes the attachment > when it's mimetype is set to audio/wav? Very probably. I have never bothered too much about the details and only remember some things very approximately. > And, what do you mean by RID's? If you look at my full headers, you will find a line "references" or some such. Netscape shows a clickable number in the mail head and one click on that takes me to the message the current one is in answer to. Real newsreaders can take me backwards, forwards, sideways (several replies to one post) all across the tree, netscape only does backward, but even that is more than nothing. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:53:37 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: FW: OT RE: Outlook <=> HPLX Converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > "Nirody, Suresh" wrote: > Nokia communicator. In its Calendar application there is no place for > location, so when you synch it with Outlook you NEVER get this. I'm > not sure why anyone would think this was OK ;( Well that is about the main reason why I hate those ready made pointee clickee things so badly. The old 9000 had a tool to and from a rather complicated but well documented ASCII file. This allows me, and me alone, to control what goes goes where and how to map not quite similar structures. I still use my old database in the emulated Atari because I know of no other that allows me that much control over imports and exports. Unfortunately the "output to key buffer" that allows me to control other programs as long as they are not mouse-only works only inside the emulator and not to other (Windows) programs outside it. Filling in bank giro transfer forms was one single click before with BTX and is a load of misery with T-Online. I'm pretty sure the newer Nokias must offer something similar too. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:27:55 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? Comments: To: Bryan Biggers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan Biggers wrote: > What does the government do with all the spam? Are they going to > save it up and send it all to Iraq or something? Does this > actually do any good? If it did, I'd like to send them some of > mine. Bryan The article I read said they had used it as a basis for a couple of legal actions against spamers already. If it does ANY good I'm willing to send them all I've got. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:27:57 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? Comments: To: Tony Hutchins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tony Hutchins wrote: > Russ, you could tag them and do a block move to a special > folder box called say spam.i, then just attach spam.i to one > e-mail. I think they are expecting them as single emails. They get about 15K emails per day so are using automated scanning for patterns and probably wouldn't expect mutiple emails in 1 file. If I can find a way to ask them a question I'll see if I can use your idea. Thanks! Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:14:42 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Re: OT: Re: Re: FTP Server: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have any good Roboweb scripts (or know of a site that has does) to download news off of the web ? If so, please email directly to me, thanks. (Please make sure to remove any username/passwords you may have stored in them) Thanks ! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:16:16 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: RoboWeb scripts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have any good Roboweb scripts (or know of a site that has does) to download news off of the web ? If so, please email directly to me, thanks. (Please make sure to remove any username/passwords you may have stored in them) Thanks ! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:02:56 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? In-Reply-To: <200210042127.g94LRx431329@mail2.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 26m ago Russel Brooks wrote: > Tony Hutchins wrote: > > Russ, you could tag them and do a block move to a special > > folder box called say spam.i, then just attach spam.i to one > > e-mail. > > I think they are expecting them as single emails. They get about > 15K emails per day so are using automated scanning for patterns > and probably wouldn't expect mutiple emails in 1 file. Sounds like they get enough spam already ;-) Russ, I think Helmuth's method is best. If you turn on all the headers with alt+H then Shift+F10 will append a nice copy of the message to a file, including all headers, without any attachments (which you probably don't want to send on anyway - they are probably interested in the headers?). Oh, if they just expect a single spam in each e-mail you will have to forward each one individually - to ease the pain you could dedicate a special e-mail box to this, with the To: line in the template already filled in. The just Shift+F4 - choose the special spam box, then F10. Yup! This works! After the spam box is selected it stays selected so you can then just do Shift+F4 ENTER (see the message template already nicely filled in) F10, Shift+F4 ENTER F10, etc. This could be a nice macro. Whoops, this method does not forward the full headers though, even if they are turned on. Do you need to on-send the full headers? Do the spam people need the full attachments too? Forwarding attachments is not automatic in POST/LX - to do that you need to have saved the attachments first, and they need to be explicitly on-sent. Helmuth's method is the way to go I think. What you could do is again have a special spam e-mail box with a template like this: From: Russ To: spamexaminers@spam.com Subject: more spam from me References: Signature: spam.txt Just make this in the usual way using F2, add the From/To/Subject and F2 to add a signature file. Now, all you need to do is 1. use alt+H to show all headers 2. for each spam item shift+F10 ENTER (this will add it to spam.txt - or whatever named file you choose) ..... now just go to you special spam e-mail box and press F2 F10 The outgoing e-mail is all ready! You don't even need to look at it. Here POST/LX mentions a warning error because there is no text, but the message is still formulated. You could type in "Hi" in the text field before pressing F10. You could even add a second signature file with a message in ("Hi, here is some more spam") Of course you'll want to delete spam.txt after each transmission. The advantage of this is that spam.txt does not actually get *stored* in your outbox. It is sent, on the fly, as a text attachment. Another way is to use the other type of signature - in the setup for the spam box type in spam.txt as the signature. This puts spam.txt in the outgoing message. Or, of course you can just insert spam.txt manually. Or, just delete it when it arrives ;-) -- -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:09:28 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > I heard on Tech TV this morning that a study has determined that > the amount of spam on the internet has increased fourfold since > this time last year. I can believe it, it's doubled in just the couple of months. Since the economy headed south and folks stopped buying the spammers have to try harder and the result is 4X spam. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:09:30 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Not built into Post/LX I think, but you could use something like that: > 1. Filter the spam into another Post/LX mailbox (not a folder). > ... Daniel, great minds think alike. I've been thinking of something similar. 1. move all my spam to a holding folder. 2. when I've got enough to send run a program from DOS that will 3. go thru the moved spam postlx folder file 1 at a time and 4. generate an unsent email to uce@ftc.gov with a single spam appended to it with full headers. 5. the next time I go online all the generated emails, each carrying 1 spam, will be sent. If I go ahead with this I'll make it available if anyone is interested. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:37:24 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: RoboWeb scripts Comments: To: E M In-Reply-To: <006601c26bf3$a88b4680$6401a8c0@nm.charterne.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 50m ago E M wrote: > Does anyone have any good Roboweb scripts (or know of a > site that has does) to download news off of the web ? Have you already tried Roboweb itself (see below) and it is not good enough?. It has quite a few news digs included. Or, do you mean you want to get NNTP news? -- -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:37:29 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? In-Reply-To: <200210032148.g93LmaT15262@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 1 day 01h37m ago Russel Brooks wrote: > I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part > of their program to fight spam. Since I get 50-75 spams > a day doing 1 at a time is a pain. Is there a way to tag > all the spam email and then forward them with a single > command somehow? Russ, I forgot to say that attglobal.net do the spam fighting for me. They identify spam and put it in a special folder that I never access. It's a free, but optional servcice. Very nice. -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:49:30 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: OT: recomendations for domain regestration? Andrew writes: > Hello > I've got a domain name coming up for renewal and I'm thinking there > might be a better choice than my current one (NSI/Verisign). > I only use it as a permanent E-mail address, I haven't even got a web > site yet. > Any recommendations? This was recently discussed on the SpamAssassin list. Seemed like the best choice was Dotster. I can send a summary from epinions.com that was posted, if you would like more details. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:00:41 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: OT: Re: recomendations for domain regestration? In-Reply-To: <001701c26b7e$dae09d80$75523b3e@bel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 4 Oct 2002 at 10:20, Michel Bel wrote: > I use 'Godaddy' - http://www.godaddy.com , they ask USD 9 going down to USD > 7 ( 10 year ) per year, and have lots of cheap mailer etc option. > _recommended_ ! I second the recommendation for GoDaddy as a Registrar. I have 4 or 5 domain names registered with them. I will never go back to Verisign after all the trouble I had transferring a domain name I registered for someone else. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 00:21:35 -0400 Reply-To: bnj@myrealbox.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: OT: Re: recomendations for domain regestration? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just looked at this site. Looks like a nice deal. Anyone know if the President, Bob Parsons, is the same one that ran Parsons= Software in the 80's and early 90's? I think he sold out to Intuit/Quic= ken because he made a competitive product. bob -----Original Message----- On 4 Oct 2002 at 10:20, Michel Bel wrote: > I use 'Godaddy' - http://www.godaddy.com , they ask ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:40:07 +0200 Reply-To: Michel Bel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michel Bel Subject: Re: recomendations for domain regestration? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And they got IMHO good customer suppport - 1 day turnaround on an email question ( from Europe, so time difference permitting). And they _solve_ the problems for you. Met vriendelijke groet, kind regards, Michel Bel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Penick" To: Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 6:21 AM Subject: OT: Re: recomendations for domain regestration? I just looked at this site. Looks like a nice deal. Anyone know if the President, Bob Parsons, is the same one that ran Parsons Software in the 80's and early 90's? I think he sold out to Intuit/Quicken because he made a competitive product. bob -----Original Message----- On 4 Oct 2002 at 10:20, Michel Bel wrote: > I use 'Godaddy' - http://www.godaddy.com , they ask ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 13:04:52 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: Text convertion question In-Reply-To: <3D87EF93.8F83F86B@tait.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Stephen Irons wrote: > The Gnuish project has ports of Gnu utilities to MSDOS. They are generally older, > smaller versions, but run on pre-386 machines. I have used them on an old 8086 with > 512K RAM and CGA. I have never run them on the HP[12]00, though I do not see why > they would not work. > > You can find a description and the files at http://www.simtel.net/pub/gnuish/ [...] > Has anyone ever tried these on the palmtop? I do. Those are somewhat old versions of GNU utilities, but even old versions of good utilities is better than no version at all. ;) I can confirm they work well on the HP200LS. Some of the executable files you can find from the URL given here are DOS+OS/2 executables. They contain some stub to detect if you're running under OS/2 or DOS, and act accordingly. One might recompile these programs with a pure DOS C compiler, to get smaller files. -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:46:52 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Re: OT: Re: recomendations for domain regestration? Comments: To: Victor Roberts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I third that recommendation for godaddy. Very minimalist (but getting better everyday), and very cheap. Just remember to take care of everything right away (especailly transfers) as they don't give refunds if you mess things up. For example...when doing transfers, there are a number of steps and each step must happen within a couple of days of being notified (via email)....if you forget to do something then the transfer fails and you lose your money. I am not trying to scare you (and it is very simple), just make sure you pay close attention and understand the process when transferring from another domain registrar. (They will email you about what needs to be done and how to do it....you would only mess up if you didn't pay attention) The above warning only applies to transfers....As for brand new registrations, I would imagine they would be VERY simple. I recommend godaddy very highly. I have also used networksolutions.com.... They say that "if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all". So I will let my silence regarding networksolutions speak for itself. Regards, Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Roberts" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:00 PM Subject: Re: OT: Re: recomendations for domain regestration? > On 4 Oct 2002 at 10:20, Michel Bel wrote: > > > I use 'Godaddy' - http://www.godaddy.com , they ask USD 9 going down to USD > > 7 ( 10 year ) per year, and have lots of cheap mailer etc option. > > _recommended_ ! > > I second the recommendation for GoDaddy as a Registrar. I have 4 or 5 > domain names registered with them. I will never go back to Verisign after all > the trouble I had transferring a domain name I registered for someone else. > > ------ > Victor Roberts > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 14:43:14 -0500 Reply-To: David Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Subject: DOS PPP & SSHDOS help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Network wizards, I'm still having difficulty configuring DOSPPP & WATTCP with my Accton ethernet card for SSHDOS. Can anyone e-mail me the commands they're using with any configuration files that are necessary for this setup? My school recently restricted telnet access in favor of the more-secure SSH, and now I don't have access anymore.. Here are all the programs I've have downloaded: SSHDOS v0.2, DOSPPP v0.6, WATTCP, LXETH, LSPPP. I think all I need to get SSHDOS running is DOSPPP, WATTCP, and SSHDOS - is that correct? The first step seems to be setting up DOSPPP, but I haven't gotten anywhere with even that part. Most of the documentation provided is for connecting via modem, but since I'm connecting via an ethernet card, I'm lost. Using EPPPD instead of PPPD is as far as I've gotten. :) Can anyone help me out? TIA! David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 15:28:27 -0500 Reply-To: David Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Subject: Re: DOS PPP & SSHDOS help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Solved it! Turned out I didn't need to run DOSPPP at all! I've been using DHCP for WWWLX & POSTLX, but never thought to test it directly with SSHDOS. But I just did, and it works! Sorry about the wasted bandwidth - probably not news to anyone on this list.. :) David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 22:03:54 -0400 Reply-To: Francois Gurin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Francois Gurin Subject: FS: Framework IV Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For Sale: FrameWork IV in original box, name your price + shipping (heavy!) I haven't touched it in a long time and it's a big chunk of space. Will drop off anywhere in NYC for an iced tea :) --francois ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 14:17:29 +0200 Reply-To: "Michael L." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Michael L." Subject: OT: PDA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I want to purchase a used PDA. Could be a Palm IIIc or Casio BE-300. I fe= ar, that these small 160x160 displays of a Palm are too small, and that t= he Li-ion-batteries of older Palms have only low capacities. Can you give= me an advice? Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz www.lennartz-online.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Q7 Talamo --- das kompakte E-Mail-Programm von http://www.migaro.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 08:27:57 -0400 Reply-To: "William T. Hole" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "William T. Hole" Subject: Re: Text convertion question - regular expression In-Reply-To: <200210042337.g94NbP1Q028253@nes.nlm.nih.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Domingo - Here is a quick sed regular expression which does what you want - it should at least give a hint --Bill > Goals > 1. Teaching > 1.1 Expanded teaching search > 1.2 Drop cards at Spring Valley and other schools > 2. Home > 2.1 Schedule of things to do around house > is in the file 't'. This command works for me: sed 's/[0-9][\.\ \ ]/ /g' t > t2 (that's sed 's/[0-9][\.\\]//g' t >t2) which means: substitute any case of 0-9 followed by a '.', space, or tab with a tab" and put the result in file 't2' >more t2 Goals Teaching Expanded teaching search Drop cards at Spring Valley and other schools Home Schedule of things to do around house Other working Apply for subbing at different schools Investigate school music teaching Investigate other working options Gig Music Pursue more Gig music Search for more sheet music and tracks Find a partner Personal Master's What schools can I take the classes at? Bibliography & Research 20th Cent Music Strings Literature Find libraries to continue the work at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 15:28:05 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: PDA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I want to purchase a used PDA. That's your own fault ;-) > Could be a Palm IIIc or Casio BE-300. How do you got down to these two machines? Palms divide the computing people into two groups: The ones who are comfortable with the small things a palm offers, and the ones who would never seriously use them. I'm a member of the second group, so forget Palm ;-) The BE-300 is a strange PDA. Its operating system ist made by casio and (even based on WinCE 3.0) is NOT compatible to any other computer. You can run some programs written for WinCE 2.11(!) but the whole bunch of PocketPC-Software WILL NOT run on this thing. regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 09:20:50 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: OT: PDA Comments: To: "Michael L." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael L." To: Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 7:17 AM Subject: OT: PDA Hi, I want to purchase a used PDA. Could be a Palm IIIc or Casio BE-300. I fear, that these small 160x160 displays of a Palm are too small, and that the Li-ion-batteries of older Palms have only low capacities. Can you give me an advice? I've used Palms. I have a Palm 3c and a Palm 3x. The 3x is a mono palm that uses twe AAA batteries and they typically last a month. It's the first Palm that had a screen with good contrast. It's also backlit but the backlight is seldom useful, it's so dim. It was my first Palm and I found it useful and I liked it's small size and light weight. I also have (and had) a 200lx and the Palm's built in apps weren't nearly as powerful as those on the 200lx but I didn't need much beyond a phone book and a calander and appointment keeper so I was perfectly happy with it. Now that I'm retired my main use of them is as an ebook reader. The screen is small but, in the case of the mono Palm, it's extremely sharp and the size was fine. I even did a little reading of ebooks on it. If the light was good I was perfectly comfortable with it. I bought the 3c because it didn't need good external light. It's color but that was really secondary to me. It was well lit. It's screen is as bright as laptop screen. I can read it at night with the lights turned off. Even though the screen seems more pixelated and less sharp than the mono Palm, ebook readers use font smoothing on the color model and it's easier to read ebooks on it than on the mono one. Battery life depends not only on how much you use it but on what you do with it. For ebook reading I typically get six hours from it's built-in battery. Six hours is enough to get through a normal couple of days using it as a PDA for work. It recharges by dropping it into the cradle. I forget how long the recharge actually takes but it seems like it's less than an hour even if the battery is pretty low. My eyes are poor and when I'm reading with it I sometimes find myself wishing the screen was larger. But I have no problem reading it for an hour or two. I haven't tried longer stretches. Most of my reading from it is in bed after the lights are out. The 3x was bought when they first became available and I've had no problem whatever with it. Just guessing I'd say it was 4 or 5 years old. Maybe not that old. I bought the 3c when it came out, also. I'd guess 3 or 4 years ago. Again, it's never had a problem. However, compared to the 200lx they feel flimsy and I'm very careful not to drop them. I've also never had a scratch on the screen in that time. I don't use screen protectors. I did for a short time and I didn't like them so I decided to just take my chances. There is a huge amount of software available for all the Palms. There is a lot of depth and breadth in the selection. If you want it, it's probably available, easy to find and not too expensive. There are a few expensive apps but not many. The quality of the Palm software tends to be very good and is often excellent. It's the big market so it draws skilled programmers. Contrary to what Oliver says, you don't have to forget Palm. :) I don't have any experience at all with the WinCE or PocketPC computers. I've never had one in my hand. Most of what I've read about them is from Palm sites and is, of course, very biased. The one negative I'm pretty sure of is that the software selection isn't as good. Whether it's "good enough" or not, I don't know. My guess would be that it is. The positive about the PocketPC/WinCE that I'm pretty sure about is that the hardware is a lot more powerful. Based on ads and comments from users I'd guess that there is enough software to take advantage of that if you want to use it for multimedia. The newer Palms can also be used for multimedia but only in limited ways. If I were choosing I think multimedia capabilities would be the number one consideration. If I wanted them, I'd buy a PocketPC PDA. If I didn't, I'd buy a Palm. When I was working the Palm was the best choice for me for sure. But now that I'm retired I'm not sure which I'd pick if I had to start over. But keep this in mind if you're used to the 200lx now: whichever way you go, you're going to lose a LOT of capability when you leave the 200lx behind. In exchange you get light weight, small size and backlit screen, which ain't chopped liver. While I've tried to write this with an open mind, I have been infected by the "we're the good guys and they're evil" attitude, over the years, of the user of any platform. That's learned by reading newsgroups and forums. I can't help it. It's totally out of my control. Therefore, I do believe the Palm to be good and the PocketPC to be evil and that Palm users are bright and smile a lot and that PocketPC users go around saying "Duh!" all the time, and don't know it's a joke. Forget PocketPC. :) Funny thing is that when I'm using the 200lx, I continuously disparage myself as a Palm user, and vice-versa when I'm using the Palm. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 12:07:01 -0400 Reply-To: RickRae@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Rae Subject: Re: OT: PDA Comments: To: news@MIGARO.DE In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From my point of view, the only thing I can share is this: I purchased a 95LX since the first day I saw one, upgraded to a 100LX as soon as they came out, and switched again to a 200LX as soon as the larger memory was available from HP (a rep told me to hold off a few weeks -- bless you, kind sir). After all these years the LX family still does what I need, when I need, how I need. Over a year ago I was given a Palm at work, because it is the vehicle used to load firmware into our new terminals. I tried to like it, I really did. But it sits in my desk drawer, never used except when I have to download firmware. And then, the batteries are more often than not dead, and I have to reload the application and data files before I can do anything useful with it. I'm sure the Palm is a good machine for some people. I'm not one of them. Still waiting for something better than the LX, Rick *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 10/6/2002 at 2:17 PM Michael L. wrote: >Hi, > >I want to purchase a used PDA. Could be a Palm IIIc or Casio BE-300. I >fear, that these small 160x160 displays of a Palm are too small, and that >the Li-ion-batteries of older Palms have only low capacities. Can you give >me an advice? > >Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton >Michael Lennartz >www.lennartz-online.net >Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Q7 Talamo --- das kompakte E-Mail-Programm >von http://www.migaro.de >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 19:03:03 +0200 Reply-To: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Subject: Re: OT: PDA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rick, > I'm sure the Palm is a good machine for some people. I'm not one of them. An excellent one! > Still waiting for something better than the LX, Me too, still waiting, waiting ..... Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 15:43:06 -0400 Reply-To: N Knight Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: N Knight Subject: Re: OT: PDA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: "Michael L." >I want to purchase a used PDA. Could be a Palm IIIc or Casio >BE-300. So which one is it? It is is a BE300 it's a good choice. It it is a Palm I would pass. If you are looking for a device as good as the 200lx, don't bother. IMHO you would be better off getting an upgraded device from Thaddeus. After using a 200lx you will be very dissapointed with any alternative. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 21:49:57 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: OT: PDA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > So which one is it? It is is a BE300 it's a good choice. What's good on the BE-300? You get all the disadvantages a PocketPC hast to offer without getting any of the benefits PocketPC2000/2002 could offer. > After using a 200lx you will be very dissapointed > with any alternative. That's right, as long as you want to do serious stuff and need a reliable computer. regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 09:42:17 +0200 Reply-To: "Michael L." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Michael L." Subject: Re: PDA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Oli, you daily use a Jornada 430se, I know... I daily use a SE-500. This is a fine machine, long battery life, good rea= dable display with backlight on. (See: http://www.fortunecity.com/melting= pot/bread/689/se500a.htm) But I want to take some ebooks with me and write long texts. The display = and the keyboard of the the 700LX and the 360LX are not so good, that I c= an type really long texts. I thought: Now it is time to use a device with= a backligthed color display for reading ebooks in MobiPocket-format. I u= se the MobiPocket Reader on the laptop and the 360LX, but especially the = 360LX teached me, how nice a color display would be.=20 And I like good keyboards in PC-quality. I write very much and long texts= , and these Mickey-Mouse-keyboards are finally terrible. So I would buy a= foldable keyboard at ebay.=20 I would miss the CF-slots and the standard batteries of the HP-devices. I= am not sure, that I will be happy with a Palm, so I don't want to pay to= o much. It's a test and a risc.=20 The BE-300 has a big display, that's why I asked about it.=20 There is not best device for all purposes. We have to carry with us sever= al devices and select the best for the moment. regards, Michael ----- Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht ----- ("Oliver W. Leibenguth" ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 15:28:05 = +0200) > I want to purchase a used PDA. That's your own fault ;-) > Could be a Palm IIIc or Casio BE-300. How do you got down to these two machines? Palms divide the computing people into two groups: The ones who are comfortable with the small things a palm offers, and the ones who would never seriously use them. I'm a member of the second group, so forget Palm ;-) The BE-300 is a strange PDA. Its operating system ist made by casio and (even based on WinCE 3.0) is NOT compatible to any other computer. You can run some programs written for WinCE 2.11(!) but the whole bunch of PocketPC-Software WILL NOT run on this thing. regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 08:22:02 -0400 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: S Carder Subject: Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Russ, I forgot to say that attglobal.net do the spam fighting > for me. They identify spam and put it in a special folder that > I never access. It's a free, but optional servcice. Very nice. If you never access it, how can you be sure they are only filtering out = actual spam? I have a "spam filter" that comes with my E-mail provider. I had = to disable it because it was pulling out mailings I had subscribed to. = Sometimes, I want the E-mail even if it was sent to several thousand people at once. This may not apply in your case, but it does point out the difficulty in automating spam identification. Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 07:59:08 -0500 Reply-To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: OT:Spam Was How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's an excellent manual solution. http://www.mailwasher.net/ Tom Steve wrote: If you never access it, how can you be sure they are only filtering out actual spam? I have a "spam filter" that comes with my E-mail provider. I had to disable it because it was pulling out mailings I had subscribed to. Sometimes, I want the E-mail even if it was sent to several thousand people at once. This may not apply in your case, but it does point out the difficulty in automating spam identification. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 08:08:50 -0700 Reply-To: Terry Owen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Owen Subject: IIIc vs Casio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just a quick note: it's true that the Casio is very limited in the software dept but if you just want to sync with Outlook, play some mp3s or audiobooks and do a little e-reading - it isn't that bad. The machine is cheap plastic but the color is good enough, sound through headphones is okay and it has a CF card. And an AC adaptor, although it has decent battery life for a color machine. For light usage, I think it would be fine. The problem is that when you want to do anything else, you're boxed in. I don't know about the Palm IIIc (I have a mono TRG Pro w/CF slot that I would recommend to anyone) but as much as I like some Palm software, I'll never buy another PDA without a memory slot. I will keep a Palm around as long as I have an investment in Palmreader ebooks but I'm still looking for that perfect PDA myself. If the LX were just a little smaller... YMMV and all that, Terry in Iowa __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 17:48:08 +0200 Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hanno_H=FCther?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hanno_H=FCther?= Subject: Vertical Reader MaxPages problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I=92ve got a problem with vertical reader and was wondering if anyone = has also experienced this one: When I was reading LoTR (All books in one big file) I noticed the page limit of 1500 was not sufficient. I changed the value in the config file, but nothing happened. I set it to 2000, 800 and several other values without any effect. Do I have to register to use this feature? The version I use was downloaded from SUPER pages. Of course I could split the file in two and workaround the problem, but maybe there=92s a better solution? Any suggestions? Thanks! Hanno ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:56:15 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Vertical Reader MaxPages problem Comments: To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hanno_H=FCther?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hanno H=FCther" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:48 AM Subject: Vertical Reader MaxPages problem Hi, > I've got a problem with vertical reader and was wondering if anyone has > also experienced this one: > > When I was reading LoTR (All books in one big file) I noticed the page > limit of 1500 was not sufficient. I changed the value in the config > file, but nothing happened. I set it to 2000, 800 and several other > values without any effect. Do I have to register to use this feature? > The version I use was downloaded from SUPER pages. > > Of course I could split the file in two and workaround the problem, but > maybe there's a better solution? I'd split it in at least 2 or 3 parts whether there is a better solution or not. Smaller files are just less trouble and text is trivial to split into smaller parts. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:59:08 -0700 Reply-To: jasher@ix.netcom.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Jeffrey W. Asher" Subject: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? In-Reply-To: <002301c26e2a$e932d660$5a0d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Jeff ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 15:29:04 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? Comments: To: jasher@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dos keeps a second fat on most drives. You can use Norton Utilities or even debug (Norton is MUCH better) to copy it over to the first fat. That doesn't always help but it often does. I think Norton's Disk Doctor can do that, too. You'll need to have some understanding of the layout of the disk and some good documentation for the details. If this is critical data for you and you're not experienced at this I'd find someone who is. If you just want to repair the drive, you can format it in any laptop. I think you can do it with the 200lx but I'm not sure. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey W. Asher" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:59 PM Subject: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? > Thanks, > > Jeff > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 16:55:03 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey W. Asher" Subject: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? ************************************** Jeff, If you are speaking of one of the large ram drives (32M, 64M or 96M) that Thaddeus or Times2 Tech sells, I'm not sure what you can do. You might try running Chkdsk /f against it. But sometimes this will cause problems unto itself if the drive already has a corrupt FAT. I've heard, but have not tried, that the scandisk from original Win 95 will run on the 200lx. (I do use edit.exe from Win 95 on my 200.) Barry's suggestion doesn't seem likely to work for a ram drive. (I just can't figure out how you'd get that chip fitted into the laptop. ) If you are having problems with a memory card on the other hand, I will concur with his suggestions. bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 17:34:08 -0400 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: ESC-ON Diagnostics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Does anyone know of a URL/web site that describes the > ESC-ON diagnostics and what each one means? > > I tried to run TEST-ALL and it seems to just wait at > the keyboard test for me to hits keys....after about 3 > keys, it fails...very odd. WARNING! Do *NOT* run "Test all" or "Plug-in RAM card" tests if you have a flash card in the slot! You will lose your data and ruin your card! This type of test is meant only for older SRAM cards!!! To test "Display", select it then press any key repeatedly to see various test patterns (and a poem!), and examine them visually for missing pixels etc. To test "Keyboard", select it then press every key on the keyboard in order. Start with the top row, going from left to right, and finish with the bottom row. The "Wire serial port" test requires a loop-back resistor attached to the port. The other tests run without interaction. I hope this helps! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:13:25 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? Comments: To: jasher@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bad how? What error msgs? While doing what? 1st try: CHKDSK F: /F ..and answer YES if it finds anything to fix. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:29:37 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? Comments: To: Bob Penick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Penick" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? > Barry's suggestion doesn't seem likely to work for a ram drive. (I just > can't figure out how you'd get that chip fitted into the laptop. ) Oops! :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:05:30 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Casio upgrade article (unbelievable !! ) WAS Re: IIIc vs Casio Comments: To: Terry Owen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Speaking of Casio, you should read this: http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/10/07/021007opgripe.xml Makes me glad I own an HP. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Owen" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: IIIc vs Casio > Just a quick note: it's true that the Casio is very limited in the > software dept but if you just want to sync with Outlook, play some > mp3s or audiobooks and do a little e-reading - it isn't that bad. > The machine is cheap plastic but the color is good enough, sound > through headphones is okay and it has a CF card. And an AC > adaptor, although it has decent battery life for a color machine. > For light usage, I think it would be fine. The problem is that > when you want to do anything else, you're boxed in. > > I don't know about the Palm IIIc (I have a mono TRG Pro w/CF slot > that I would recommend to anyone) but as much as I like some Palm > software, I'll never buy another PDA without a memory slot. > > I will keep a Palm around as long as I have an investment in > Palmreader ebooks but I'm still looking for that perfect PDA > myself. If the LX were just a little smaller... > > YMMV and all that, > > Terry in Iowa > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:10:40 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Re: PDA Comments: To: "Michael L." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I already posted this on a separate thread, but since it is specifically about upgrading the BE-300, I thought I should post it here as well, jus= t in case this is the only thread the originator is following. http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/10/07/021007opgripe.xml My apologies to the group for the duplication. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael L." To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:42 AM Subject: Re: PDA Hi Oli, ... The BE-300 has a big display, that's why I asked about it. ... regards, Michael ----- Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht ----- ("Oliver W. Leibenguth" ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 15:28:05 +0200) .... The BE-300 is a strange PDA. Its operating system ist made by casio and (even based on WinCE 3.0) is NOT compatible to any other computer. You can run some programs written for WinCE 2.11(!) but the whole bunch of PocketPC-Software WILL NOT run on this thing. ..... regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 00:57:23 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Penick wrote: > You might > try running Chkdsk /f against it. But sometimes this will cause problems > unto itself if the drive already has a corrupt FAT. I've never heard of Chkdsk causing problems. However it is possible it won't be able to reverse all the problems your drive may have. Example cross linked files. Chkdsk will fix the cross linked problem but one or both of the files will be lost and/or damaged. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:27:07 -0400 Reply-To: bnj@myrealbox.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: Russel Brooks I've never heard of Chkdsk causing problems. However it is possible it won= 't be able to reverse all the problems your drive may have. Example cros= s linked files. Chkdsk will fix the cross linked problem but one or both= of the files will be lost and/or damaged. *************************************** Russ, I believe you are just more clearly stating what I was trying to say. If y= ou run chkdsk with the autorepair option with a FAT that is corrupt, it w= ill make it's repairs based on the bad data in the FAT and you end up wit= h JUNK. Of course, if you are already at this point you probably have ju= nk anyway and should be looking for those backups. bob (One who speaks from recent experience!) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:33:13 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Do doublespeed upgrades make the displays more readable? (I am not talking about the display issues associated to the necessity of a driver.) Thanks, Eric ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:29:19 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Brooks" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:57 PM Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? > Bob Penick wrote: > > You might > > try running Chkdsk /f against it. But sometimes this will cause problems > > unto itself if the drive already has a corrupt FAT. > > I've never heard of Chkdsk causing problems. However it is > possible it won't be able to reverse all the problems your drive > may have. Example cross linked files. Chkdsk will fix the > cross linked problem but one or both of the files will be lost > and/or damaged. If chkdsk encounters a problem and tries to fix it but the problem is more extensive than chkdsk knows to look for, it can easily make it worse. It might do enough additional damage that nothing else can fix it when it might have been easily repairable by another program. I use it all the time. It's not a dangerous program. But I'd never use it on really critical data. I'd try something else. Programs like Norton's Disk Doctor are a lot more reliable than chkdsk and have advantage that if they can't fix it they can usually leave it unchanged. That's not perfect either but it's fairly reliable. The most reliable method is doing it manually. But it's rarely worth the effort. And there's still no guarantee. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:42:53 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Opinions ... Weak hinge or hinge crack risk ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What's worse: A weak hinge (one that doesn't exactly "fall" open, but offers little resistance). Or a firm hinge that may someday develop the dreaded hinge crack ? Obviously an opinion-type question, but I am curious since I have come accross LX's a different times that have one of these two conditions. I am wondering if there is any consensus among the long-time users ? (Or if people have ever gone through several hinge cracks and happily found a weak hinge model (or vice versa)). Regards, Eric ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:51:36 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Opinions ... Weak hinge or hinge crack risk ? Comments: To: E M MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "E M" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: Opinions ... Weak hinge or hinge crack risk ? > What's worse: > > A weak hinge (one that doesn't exactly "fall" open, but offers little > resistance). > > Or a firm hinge that may someday develop the dreaded hinge crack ? I have 5 various LXs and two of them had very tight hinges when I bought them. I worried about that for a long time but now I can't tell which they were. They're all about the same now. It didn't hurt them. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:27:36 -0700 Reply-To: jasher@ix.netcom.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Jeffrey W. Asher" Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <002501c26e6a$3a1468c0$050d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What do you mean doing it manually? Thanks, Jeff -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu]On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 6:29 PM To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Brooks" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:57 PM Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? > Bob Penick wrote: > > You might > > try running Chkdsk /f against it. But sometimes this will cause problems > > unto itself if the drive already has a corrupt FAT. > > I've never heard of Chkdsk causing problems. However it is > possible it won't be able to reverse all the problems your drive > may have. Example cross linked files. Chkdsk will fix the > cross linked problem but one or both of the files will be lost > and/or damaged. If chkdsk encounters a problem and tries to fix it but the problem is more extensive than chkdsk knows to look for, it can easily make it worse. It might do enough additional damage that nothing else can fix it when it might have been easily repairable by another program. I use it all the time. It's not a dangerous program. But I'd never use it on really critical data. I'd try something else. Programs like Norton's Disk Doctor are a lot more reliable than chkdsk and have advantage that if they can't fix it they can usually leave it unchanged. That's not perfect either but it's fairly reliable. The most reliable method is doing it manually. But it's rarely worth the effort. And there's still no guarantee. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:13:05 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? Comments: To: jasher@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey W. Asher" To: "'Barry'" ; Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:27 PM Subject: RE: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? > What do you mean doing it manually? With a disk editor that can read the disk directly and pretty good understanding of how the disk is organized below the file level, it's sometimes possible to dig around and find parts of files and re-assemble the data. It's not always possible but with a lot of detective work it can sometimes be done in whole or part. It depends on the extent of the damage. The fat table is what ties the various parts of a file together. The data might be scattered all over the disk (fragmented) and the fat table is the only indication of what goes together. If it's partly destroyed, the data might very well be there. There might be no way of knowing where except to examine all the data on the disk and figure out what goes together. Usually there are some clues left in the fat table. Not always. Parts of the data can also be missing, making it more difficult. Again it just depends on what is damaged on the disk and how badly it's damaged. There's no formula for it. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:13:27 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Opinions ... Weak hinge or hinge crack risk ? Comments: To: E M In-Reply-To: <004c01c26e6c$04bc7c60$6401a8c0@workgroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The weak hinge can be tightened slightly gradually until it is comfortable. The too-tight hinge can be gradually loosened until it is comfortable. The tightness is simply a function of how much torque was applied and how much friction there is in the hinge. Avi At 10/7/02-08:42 PM, you wrote: >What's worse: > >A weak hinge (one that doesn't exactly "fall" open, but offers little >resistance). > >Or a firm hinge that may someday develop the dreaded hinge crack ? > >Obviously an opinion-type question, but I am curious since I have come >accross LX's a different times that have one of these two conditions. I am >wondering if there is any consensus among the long-time users ? > >(Or if people have ever gone through several hinge cracks and happily found >a weak hinge model (or vice versa)). > >Regards, >Eric > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:11:06 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. Comments: To: E M In-Reply-To: <004201c26e6a$ab1f7730$6401a8c0@workgroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Not at all. No change at all. However: If you have a double speed machine and run it WITHOUT the spd31 software, your screen is likely to be anything from readable to unusably fuzzy. If you add the speed software and reboot, magically you can now read the screen. Hope this did not confuse you more... Avi At 10/7/02-08:33 PM, you wrote: >Hello, > > Do doublespeed upgrades make the displays more readable? > >(I am not talking about the display issues associated to the necessity of a >driver.) > >Thanks, >Eric > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 12:36:23 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > With a disk editor that can read the disk directly and pretty good > understanding of how the disk is organized below the file level, Can you recommend an easy to use DOS disk editor and documentation on how DOS stores partitioning information. On my Atari I was able to read the (SCSI) HD by sector and had a very good documnetation of the root sector, the patitions's boot sectors and everything else. It has more than once allowed me to reclaim totally lost partitions (which just proves I was dumb enaugh to more than once make the same mistake resulting in the ruin of the root sector in the first place). Danke Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:45:36 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? Comments: To: Axel Berger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 5:36 AM Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? > Can you recommend an easy to use DOS disk editor and documentation on > how DOS stores partitioning information. On my Atari I was able to read > the (SCSI) HD by sector and had a very good documnetation of the root > sector, the patitions's boot sectors and everything else. It has more > than once allowed me to reclaim totally lost partitions (which just > proves I was dumb enaugh to more than once make the same mistake > resulting in the ruin of the root sector in the first place). For dos there's Norton editor. If you have dos Norton utilities it's called NU. I've used others with more features but this is the one I've used most and I don't remember the names of the others. NU is fine for me. If you can find a copy of the old "MS-DOS Programmer's Reference" from Microsoft press, it's a pretty complete reference on the disk and a lot of other things. "Undocumented DOS" by Andrew Schulman is one of the best information sources. Also out of print, I'm sure, but I think I remember seeing it online somewhere. "Undocumented PC" is another good one. I don't have it handy and I don't remember the author's name. Someone in the group can probably provide it. Also "The MS-DOS Encyclopedia" by Ray Duncan and others has a lot of information. Out of print and since it was so huge and so expensive it'll probably be hard to find. Online there's (www.cybertrails.com/~fys/diskinfo.htm) and (home.no.net/tkos/info/fat.html) and (www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/index.htm) and (www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodte chnol/winxppro/reskit/prkc_fil_yksz.asp) A couple of week ago someone gave the url of Dosref 3.4. I no longer have the url. Hopefully somoene can profide that. Chapter 8 in the downloadble reference has lots of information on the disk system. Get helppc at (ftp://x2ftp.oulu.fi/pub/msdos/programming/docs/). It has a lot of easily found reference material. It's also good for just about anything else technical that you do with a computer. Every programmer should have this. Most probably do. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 20:52:05 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Opinions ... Weak hinge or hinge crack risk ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit E M wrote: > What's worse: > > A weak hinge (one that doesn't exactly "fall" open, but offers little > resistance). > > Or a firm hinge that may someday develop the dreaded hinge crack ? The weak hinge is more of a nuisance day to day because you're always having to adjust it. The firm hinge is only a bother when the hinge cracks and you have to fix it which could result in a multi-day outage if you have to send your only LX to be repaired. If I had to pick I guess I'd go for the loose hinge but I'd MUCH rather get one that somewhere in the middle between too loose and too hight. I've got one of each. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:58:32 -0700 Reply-To: Donald Collins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Donald Collins Subject: eBay battery auction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is this a good deal? (eBay) DIGICAM 1800mA AA NIMH BATTERIES $1.25 each http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1386181149 Can the LX charge these fully? Don ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 20:07:58 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: eBay battery auction Comments: To: Donald Collins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Collins" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:58 PM Subject: eBay battery auction > Is this a good deal? (eBay) > > DIGICAM 1800mA AA NIMH BATTERIES $1.25 each > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1386181149 I'm not familiar with DIGICAM but if that's a decent brand it's a great price. Thomas Distributing sells Maha 1800 mAH batteries for $14.87 for a four pack which is $4.62 each. > Can the LX charge these fully? I prefer not to use the charger in the LX so I can't help with that. I use an external charger and swap batteries. I think Avi has some software to deal with that. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 21:54:09 -0400 Reply-To: bnj@myrealbox.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Used Accurite Travel Floppy Drives for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was following a thread on www.techbargains.com and found the Accurite Tra= vel Floppy for sale for $39.00 plus shipping. They were originally sold f= or use as a floppy drive for the Itronix brand tough laptops. The bigges= t downside I can find is that they don't include the 5V AC adapter which = you would need with the LX. On the otherhand, they do have a 90 day warr= anty. I've never done business with Computer Surplus Outlet, but the price seems = fair. Hope this is useful to someone. bob http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com/viewproduct.asp?ProductID=3DSTO-144PCM ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 22:28:14 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Pigford Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Pigford Subject: Re: Used Accurite Travel Floppy Drives for sale Comments: To: bnj@myrealbox.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Bob, This would be great for HP200LX users, but I am not sure it is the Accurite Floppy as seen on the Accurite web page: http://www.accurite.com/Travel.html What makes you think it is the Accurite product? Bob Pigford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Penick" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:54 PM Subject: Used Accurite Travel Floppy Drives for sale I was following a thread on www.techbargains.com and found the Accurite Travel Floppy for sale for $39.00 plus shipping. They were originally sold for use as a floppy drive for the Itronix brand tough laptops. The biggest downside I can find is that they don't include the 5V AC adapter which you would need with the LX. On the otherhand, they do have a 90 day warranty. I've never done business with Computer Surplus Outlet, but the price seems fair. Hope this is useful to someone. bob http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com/viewproduct.asp?ProductID=STO-144PCM ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:28:36 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: eBay battery auction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Donald and Barry 05h36m ago Barry wrote: > > Can the LX charge these fully? > > I prefer not to use the charger in the LX so I can't help with > that. I use an external charger and swap batteries. I think Avi > has some software to deal with that. I use 1800s for abt, a year now, and I have totally deactivated trickle charging, so as long as the LX is on AC power, is recharges batteries with the full 100mA. The spd31.exe Doublespeed driver offers a switch for that, and I think there is also other software available which can aviod trickle charge. So the LX can fully charge 1800s in about 18 hours, if they are empty. I let it charge the batteries every night for about 7-8 hours, and in the morning I have a voltage of about 2.7-2.8V. In the evening, usually after a few hours of usage, some of them with backlight switched on, I have voltages from 2.5V down to 2.3V. So this is a good usage pattern for me. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:28:39 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 1 day 03h42m ago Avi Meshar wrote: > Not at all. No change at all. However: If you have a double speed machine Well, not necessarily. But Mack's Double speed driver, and I think also Stefans, offer a way to change the display refresh rate, which has effect on the contrast, too. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:28:38 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Opinions ... Weak hinge or hinge crack risk ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Eric and Russel 09h58m ago Russel Brooks wrote: > If I had to pick I guess I'd go for the loose hinge but I'd MUCH > rather get one that somewhere in the middle between too loose > and too hight. Why pick? Adjust! See http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair Another idea for tightening a weak hinge could be to stuff some layers of paper or whatever into the gaps under the hinge caps. This could add a bit of friction and thus make the hinge tighter. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 07:54:53 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? In-Reply-To: <3DA2B527.9E21C576@Nexgo.De> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry if this comes late, I'm having some trouble with my ADSL line since the last week-end. They managed to provide me with a 99% *downtime*. My ADSL modem catches the line maybe 5 minutes a day, and I don't control when. On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Axel Berger wrote: > Barry wrote: > > With a disk editor that can read the disk directly and pretty good > > understanding of how the disk is organized below the file level, > > Can you recommend an easy to use DOS disk editor I personnaly use an old version of Norton Disk Editor, one of the utilities contained in the Norton Utilities package. I tested some weeks ago a rather new version of these tools, and the DiskEdit is no more a disk editor (or I haven't found the way to make it act like that). > and documentation on > how DOS stores partitioning information. You can find some information on this subject in the DOS Technical Reference Manual (the DOSREF shareware I already wrote about), or a book well known in the past in France, written by a german guy, "La Bible PC". I'm sure there's some other online places where you can find that kind of information. > On my Atari I was able to read > the (SCSI) HD by sector and had a very good documnetation of the root > sector, the patitions's boot sectors and everything else. It has more > than once allowed me to reclaim totally lost partitions (which just > proves I was dumb enaugh to more than once make the same mistake > resulting in the ruin of the root sector in the first place). I did that kind of exercise some times, for friends and for me. The DOS FAT filesystem and the PC partition scheme is easy to understand. If you're used to do it on your Atari, I'm sure you'll have no difficulty with a simple FAT filesystem. -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:13:47 +0100 Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Svagr, Radek" Subject: Re: Used Accurite Travel Floppy Drives for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" At least from the logo it seems to be the same. I don't remember now - does it work in DS machine also? Now question for Czech HPLXers: is here anybody else except me who wants to order it to save shipping costs? About 30$... Radek > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List On Behalf Of Bob Pigford > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:28 AM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Used Accurite Travel Floppy Drives for sale > > Bob, > This would be great for HP200LX users, but I am not sure it is the Accurite > Floppy as seen on the Accurite web page: > http://www.accurite.com/Travel.html > > What makes you think it is the Accurite product? > > Bob Pigford > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Penick" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:54 PM > Subject: Used Accurite Travel Floppy Drives for sale > > > I was following a thread on www.techbargains.com and found the Accurite > Travel Floppy for sale for $39.00 plus shipping. They were originally sold > for use as a floppy drive for the Itronix brand tough laptops. The biggest > downside I can find is that they don't include the 5V AC adapter which you > would need with the LX. On the otherhand, they do have a 90 day warranty. > I've never done business with Computer Surplus Outlet, but the price seems > fair. > > Hope this is useful to someone. > bob > > http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com/viewproduct.asp?ProductID=STO-144PCM > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:23:19 -0400 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Barry wrote: > For dos there's Norton editor. If you have dos Norton utilities > it's called NU. I've used others with more features but this is > the one I've used most and I don't remember the names of the > others. NU is fine for me. Norton Diskedit, NU is the shell on my system. > "Undocumented PC" is another good one. I don't have it handy and I > don't remember the author's name. Someone in the group can > probably provide it. Frank van Gilluwe. Both Undocumented books are quite good references. Both Peter Norton and Paul Mace put out disaster recovery how to books as well. It should be noted that most RAM disks have only one FAT. I don't know about the Thaddeus one's though. Disk information tools should tell you the layouts of these anyhow. Such as; Format information for drive F: BPB: Formatted by: OS2VDISK BPB: Media descriptor: F8 (fixed 8.5M media ) Cal: Total cylinders: 17000 BPB: Heads: 1 BPB: Sectors per cylinder: 1 BPB: Bytes per sector: 512 BPB: Hidden sectors: 0 BPB: Total disk sectors: 17000 Cal: Total disk bytes: 8704000 BPB: Reserved sectors: 1 BPB: FAT sectors (1 FAT): 7 BPB: FAT copies: 1 Cal: Total FAT sectors: 7 BPB: Root dir. entries: 64 Cal: Directory sectors: 4 Cal: Total data sectors: 16988 BPB: Sectors per cluster: 8 Cal: Bytes per cluster: 4096 Cal: Total clusters: 2123 Cal: FAT entry size: 12 bits (1.5 bytes) Cal: Total data bytes: 8697856 HTH Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:00:47 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? Comments: To: Steve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Norton Diskedit, NU is the shell on my system. Isn't that NI? Norton Intigrator, I think. In the early Norton utilities the disk editor was called Norton.exe and the other tools had their own names. Later they changed the disk editor to NU when they gave them all 2 letter names. I think that was around version 5 but I maybe off by a version. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:56:34 -0400 Reply-To: bnj@myrealbox.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Used Accurite Travel Floppy Drives for sale Comments: To: radek.svagr@INVENSYS.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Radek, The Travelfloppy works great with my two DS machines. Some users have expe= rienced intermitant problems though. I tried helping Richard Smith a few= months ago and we never completely solved all his problems with his DS a= nd the drive. I seem to remember that the company did not warranty it to= work with DS palmtops, but I can't find that info on their web site now.= If so, it is probably a blanket statement to cover themselves from havi= ng to solve problems that are out of their control. bob -----Original Message----- From: "Svagr, Radek" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 10:56 AM Subject: Re: Used Accurite Travel Floppy Drives for sale Radek, The Travelfloppy works great with my two DS machines. Some users have experienced intermitant problems though. I tried helping Richard Smith a few months ago and we never completely solved all his problems with his DS and the drive. I seem to remember that the company did not warranty it to work with DS palmtops, but I can't find that info on their web site now. If so, it is probably a blanket statement to cover themselves from having to solve problems that are out of their control. bob -----Original Message----- From: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a way to adjust the refresh rate on a non-doublespeed model ? I would gladly give up a little speed on a regular model for a crisper display. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:28 AM Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. > 1 day 03h42m ago Avi Meshar wrote: > > > Not at all. No change at all. However: If you have a double speed machine > > Well, not necessarily. > But Mack's Double speed driver, and I think also Stefans, offer a way > to change the display refresh rate, which has effect on the contrast, > too. > > GTX > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:01:57 -0400 Reply-To: Jack Skelley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jack Skelley Organization: New Jersey Devils Hockey Club Subject: Water Logged 200LX keyboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good Afternoon All: I did a very dumb thing yesterday...I dumped a glass of water on my 200LX I took the batteries out and took the unit apart. I dried the boards (no ESD events I hope...) and re-assembled the unit. This AM I put the batteries back in and turned it on. The re-init screens appeared but there is no keyboard input. I took it back apart and checked the kbd connector and all appears ok with the ribbon cable and connector. What have I overlooked? How do you take the keyboard apart? Thanks for any insight. Jack Skelley skelley@newjerseydevils.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:31:37 -0400 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive? Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <002101c26f9c$58a84800$b80d22d1@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:00 AM 10/9/02 -0500, Barry wrote: >> Norton Diskedit, NU is the shell on my system. > >Isn't that NI? Norton Intigrator, I think. > Norton Utiliies => NU, don't know if that was version dependent. Yeah, Norton Integrator rings a bell. In version 8 it's NORTON.EXE for the shell. And it says "Norton Utilities". >In the early Norton utilities the disk editor was called Norton.exe >and the other tools had their own names. Later they changed the >disk editor to NU when they gave them all 2 letter names. I think >that was around version 5 but I maybe off by a version. > >Barry Well, I used 5.0, 6.0, 8.0, and some earlier versions, which I don't really remember too well. From 5 (6?) on it was DISKEDIT or DE.EXE. In (some?) earlier versions it was part of the general utility program, so it would have been NORTON.EXE. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:18:57 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. Comments: To: E M In-Reply-To: <001201c26faf$e9fd0b70$6401a8c0@workgroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed If there is a way to change the refresh speed I do not know it. Perhaps there is some utility that can do it? If your display is not crisp then you have another problem altogether. I have never heard before of a 100 or 200 screen not being crisp. Some people complained about contrast levels, but I never heard of the crisp issue. I am speculating that perhaps you have a double speeded machine which falls on the almost readable side, hence you can use it fine, but the screen seems a bit fuzzy. Perhaps you can try the SPD31.SYS driver which adjusts the palmtop to the speedier crystal in the CONFIG.SYS? If your screen is better, it is time to explore what hardware (motherboard) you REALLY have. It may be an upgraded machine and you do not know it. All this is speculation, since you provided no information on what you actually DO see, or what tests you HAVE done, or what storage is available. There was a hint early on something about all drivers having been wiped out from the machine. The 200Lx needs no drivers when it comes out of the box, AFAIK, and so perhaps your reference means a little more than just "I use a vanilla machine". I do not know and can't guess. In any case, I never heard of a fuzzy screen except in cases of upgraded machines (faster crystal). In that case, use the speed driver. All the best, and good luck. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:25:52 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX keyboard Comments: To: Jack Skelley In-Reply-To: <3DA46104.1FA29F27@NewJerseyDevils.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sorry to hear about the dunking. I did a similar thing once to a HP Omnibook 800, but with wine, and I call that machine the "Cabernet Machine" since then. (That incident destroyed a 64MB memory chip :-( ...) The keyboard on the 200LX is rather complicated little construction and it is possible for water to have gone where it should not causing problems. The fact that the machine initializes is good as far as it goes, because there is a lot of self-checking going on before it comes to life. Suggestion: Leave the machine without batteries, in a place that gets a good airflow for two-three days! This will give everything a chance to dry out. Hopefully there was nothing corrosive in the water (unlike wine, for example)... We heard once of someone actually putting the machine in the oven which was NOT TURNED ON, just the pilot provided a bit of heat to help dry the palmtop. But I DO NOT recommend it, someone may hit the oven to pre-heat it for something without even opening it and seeing there is something "unbakeable" in there. Good luck. Avi At 10/9/02-12:01 PM, you wrote: >Good Afternoon All: >I did a very dumb thing yesterday...I dumped a glass of water on my >200LX >I took the batteries out and took the unit apart. I dried the boards >(no ESD events I hope...) and re-assembled the unit. >This AM I put the batteries back in and turned it on. The re-init >screens appeared but there is no keyboard input. I took it back apart >and checked the kbd connector and all appears ok with the ribbon cable >and connector. >What have I overlooked? How do you take the keyboard apart? >Thanks for any insight. > >Jack Skelley >skelley@newjerseydevils.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 14:12:59 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. Comments: To: hplxmail@alwaysafe.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am sorry...I guess I was being vague. I have a double speed that is very crisp....No drivers yet, but even with the drivers I can adjust the refresh rate that in turn will affect the crispness (contrast level) of the display....I beleive that is what Daniel stated in his reply. I have a few other units that are not doublespeed and compared them to the double speed and thier contrast isn't nearly as sharp. Don't get me wrong, the displays are very nice, so the units are not defective.....and I would have never noticed the difference unless I put them side by side with the doublespeed unit. But the doublespeed unit display is noticably sharper. I have gotten several opinions on this, so it is not just me. Since the double doesn't have the driver yet, my guess is that it is refreshing at doublespeed, hence the improvement. With that said, and considering the fact that the doublespeed driver allows the tweaking of the refresh rate, I was wondering if I could use the driver (or some similar driver) on a non-doublespeed unit to increase the refresh rate. (In other words, I would like ALL my units to use higher refresh rates, even if it slightly affects performance). Can I do this with the driver, or is there another driver that will let me do this on a non-doublespeed unit? Thanks, Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "E M" ; Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:18 PM Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. > If there is a way to change the refresh speed I do not know it. Perhaps > there is some utility that can do it? > > If your display is not crisp then you have another problem altogether. I > have never heard before of a 100 or 200 screen not being crisp. Some people > complained about contrast levels, but I never heard of the crisp issue. > > I am speculating that perhaps you have a double speeded machine which falls > on the almost readable side, hence you can use it fine, but the screen > seems a bit fuzzy. > > Perhaps you can try the SPD31.SYS driver which adjusts the palmtop to the > speedier crystal in the CONFIG.SYS? If your screen is better, it is time to > explore what hardware (motherboard) you REALLY have. It may be an upgraded > machine and you do not know it. > > All this is speculation, since you provided no information on what you > actually DO see, or what tests you HAVE done, or what storage is available. > There was a hint early on something about all drivers having been wiped out > from the machine. The 200Lx needs no drivers when it comes out of the box, > AFAIK, and so perhaps your reference means a little more than just "I use a > vanilla machine". I do not know and can't guess. > > In any case, I never heard of a fuzzy screen except in cases of upgraded > machines (faster crystal). In that case, use the speed driver. > > All the best, and good luck. > > Avi > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 14:21:36 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX keyboard Comments: To: Jack Skelley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did you peel the keyboard overlay off and dry the keys ?....if not, I recommend NOT turning on the unit again until you have done so, else you may short out something important and un-fixable. Follow Daniel "The Hardware Guru" Hertrich [ 8-) ] instructions here (note, you do not need to disassemble the entire unit to remove the keyboard)...just jump to the keyboard section: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair/dismantle.shtml However, If you do take it apart again (which is probably a good idea), I would leave it apart for a few days under a warm light or other heat source to let evaporation handle any remaining moisture...you definately don't want to seal in any moisture. Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Skelley" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:01 PM Subject: Water Logged 200LX keyboard > Good Afternoon All: > I did a very dumb thing yesterday...I dumped a glass of water on my > 200LX > I took the batteries out and took the unit apart. I dried the boards > (no ESD events I hope...) and re-assembled the unit. > This AM I put the batteries back in and turned it on. The re-init > screens appeared but there is no keyboard input. I took it back apart > and checked the kbd connector and all appears ok with the ribbon cable > and connector. > What have I overlooked? How do you take the keyboard apart? > Thanks for any insight. > > Jack Skelley > skelley@newjerseydevils.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 14:36:23 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I should also mention...I have tested all the units with the ESC-ON Timer and they are definately not doublespeed units....except for the one I know about. ----- Original Message ----- From: "E M" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:12 PM Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. > I am sorry...I guess I was being vague. > > I have a double speed that is very crisp....No drivers yet, but even with > the drivers I can adjust the refresh rate that in turn will affect the > crispness (contrast level) of the display....I beleive that is what Daniel > stated in his reply. > > I have a few other units that are not doublespeed and compared them to the > double speed and thier contrast isn't nearly as sharp. Don't get me wrong, > the displays are very nice, so the units are not defective.....and I would > have never noticed the difference unless I put them side by side with the > doublespeed unit. > > But the doublespeed unit display is noticably sharper. I have gotten > several opinions on this, so it is not just me. > > Since the double doesn't have the driver yet, my guess is that it is > refreshing at doublespeed, hence the improvement. > > With that said, and considering the fact that the doublespeed driver allows > the tweaking of the refresh rate, I was wondering if I could use the driver > (or some similar driver) on a non-doublespeed unit to increase the refresh > rate. (In other words, I would like ALL my units to use higher refresh > rates, even if it slightly affects performance). > > Can I do this with the driver, or is there another driver that will let me > do this on a non-doublespeed unit? > > Thanks, > Eric > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "E M" ; > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:18 PM > Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. > > > > If there is a way to change the refresh speed I do not know it. Perhaps > > there is some utility that can do it? > > > > If your display is not crisp then you have another problem altogether. I > > have never heard before of a 100 or 200 screen not being crisp. Some > people > > complained about contrast levels, but I never heard of the crisp issue. > > > > I am speculating that perhaps you have a double speeded machine which > falls > > on the almost readable side, hence you can use it fine, but the screen > > seems a bit fuzzy. > > > > Perhaps you can try the SPD31.SYS driver which adjusts the palmtop to the > > speedier crystal in the CONFIG.SYS? If your screen is better, it is time > to > > explore what hardware (motherboard) you REALLY have. It may be an upgraded > > machine and you do not know it. > > > > All this is speculation, since you provided no information on what you > > actually DO see, or what tests you HAVE done, or what storage is > available. > > There was a hint early on something about all drivers having been wiped > out > > from the machine. The 200Lx needs no drivers when it comes out of the box, > > AFAIK, and so perhaps your reference means a little more than just "I use > a > > vanilla machine". I do not know and can't guess. > > > > In any case, I never heard of a fuzzy screen except in cases of upgraded > > machines (faster crystal). In that case, use the speed driver. > > > > All the best, and good luck. > > > > Avi > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:53:00 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. Comments: To: E M In-Reply-To: <002201c26fbf$805388b0$6401a8c0@workgroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Aha! I see what you mean by crisp. I interpreted "not crisp" to mean "fuzziness" - the outlines of characters were not well delineated. You mean the difference between dark and light. Chekc in the 200LX User Manual: in mine it is on page 21-4: To adjust the display contrast from any application and it says, press ON and while it is depressed press + to darken and - to lighten, and / to invert the colors. At 10/9/02-01:12 PM, you wrote: >I am sorry...I guess I was being vague. > >I have a double speed that is very crisp....No drivers yet, but even with >the drivers I can adjust the refresh rate that in turn will affect the >crispness (contrast level) of the display....I beleive that is what Daniel >stated in his reply. When you say adjust the refresh rate, you mean the adjustment I described above? Or something else? >I have a few other units that are not doublespeed and compared them to the >double speed and thier contrast isn't nearly as sharp. Don't get me wrong, >the displays are very nice, so the units are not defective.....and I would >have never noticed the difference unless I put them side by side with the >doublespeed unit. > >But the doublespeed unit display is noticably sharper. I have gotten >several opinions on this, so it is not just me. > >Since the double doesn't have the driver yet, my guess is that it is >refreshing at doublespeed, hence the improvement. I have really not ever seen ANY difference in CONTRAST between double speed units and single speed units. >With that said, and considering the fact that the doublespeed driver allows >the tweaking of the refresh rate, It does? How? If it is what I described above, then no, all units double-speeded or not have that ability. >I was wondering if I could use the driver (or some similar driver) on a >non-doublespeed unit to increase the refresh rate. (In other words, I >would like ALL my units to use higher refresh rates, even if it slightly >affects performance). I am not sure the terms are correct, but I really do not know for sure, so I won't comment with any authority. I do not think that refresh rate has anything to do with the contrast of the LCD screen, but again, this is not my expertise and I would love to learn. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 15:46:10 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. Comments: To: hplxmail@alwaysafe.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the help, but I know about the -/+ keys. I am really refering to when both palmtops are at thier optimal settings (using -/+) the doublespeed is still significantly sharper. (for lack of a better word). Basically easier to read in limited light. I really am quite sure it is due to the higher refresh rate of the doublespeed. I will have to mess with the drivers to see if i can boost the refresh on a normal unit. Regards, Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "E M" ; Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:53 PM Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. > Aha! > > I see what you mean by crisp. I interpreted "not crisp" to mean "fuzziness" > - the outlines of characters were not well delineated. > > You mean the difference between dark and light. Chekc in the 200LX User > Manual: in mine it is on page 21-4: To adjust the display contrast from any > application and it says, press ON and while it is depressed press + to > darken and - to lighten, and / to invert the colors. > > > > At 10/9/02-01:12 PM, you wrote: > >I am sorry...I guess I was being vague. > > > >I have a double speed that is very crisp....No drivers yet, but even with > >the drivers I can adjust the refresh rate that in turn will affect the > >crispness (contrast level) of the display....I beleive that is what Daniel > >stated in his reply. > > When you say adjust the refresh rate, you mean the adjustment I described > above? Or something else? > > >I have a few other units that are not doublespeed and compared them to the > >double speed and thier contrast isn't nearly as sharp. Don't get me wrong, > >the displays are very nice, so the units are not defective.....and I would > >have never noticed the difference unless I put them side by side with the > >doublespeed unit. > > > >But the doublespeed unit display is noticably sharper. I have gotten > >several opinions on this, so it is not just me. > > > >Since the double doesn't have the driver yet, my guess is that it is > >refreshing at doublespeed, hence the improvement. > > I have really not ever seen ANY difference in CONTRAST between double speed > units and single speed units. > > >With that said, and considering the fact that the doublespeed driver allows > >the tweaking of the refresh rate, > > It does? How? If it is what I described above, then no, all units > double-speeded or not have that ability. > > >I was wondering if I could use the driver (or some similar driver) on a > >non-doublespeed unit to increase the refresh rate. (In other words, I > >would like ALL my units to use higher refresh rates, even if it slightly > >affects performance). > > I am not sure the terms are correct, but I really do not know for sure, so > I won't comment with any authority. I do not think that refresh rate has > anything to do with the contrast of the LCD screen, but again, this is not > my expertise and I would love to learn. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:48:07 +0200 Reply-To: Vagner Martin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Vagner Martin Subject: Re: eBay battery auction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use NiMh 1900 mAh for 3,6$ each, and i am fully satisfied with them. -----Original Message----- From: Donald Collins [mailto:don@COLLINSDOMAIN.COM] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:59 AM To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: eBay battery auction Is this a good deal? (eBay) DIGICAM 1800mA AA NIMH BATTERIES $1.25 each http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1386181149 Can the LX charge these fully? Don ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 15:54:21 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. Comments: To: hplxmail@alwaysafe.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi, I just thought I should let you know that I keep getting duplicate messages from you.... I am forwarding them both back to you..... This one goes to me and the group.....(see "To:" section below): ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "E M" ; Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:53 PM Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. > Aha! > > I see what you mean by crisp. I interpreted "not crisp" to mean "fuzziness" > - the outlines of characters were not well delineated. > > You mean the difference between dark and light. Chekc in the 200LX User > Manual: in mine it is on page 21-4: To adjust the display contrast from any > application and it says, press ON and while it is depressed press + to > darken and - to lighten, and / to invert the colors. > > > > At 10/9/02-01:12 PM, you wrote: > >I am sorry...I guess I was being vague. > > > >I have a double speed that is very crisp....No drivers yet, but even with > >the drivers I can adjust the refresh rate that in turn will affect the > >crispness (contrast level) of the display....I beleive that is what Daniel > >stated in his reply. > > When you say adjust the refresh rate, you mean the adjustment I described > above? Or something else? > > >I have a few other units that are not doublespeed and compared them to the > >double speed and thier contrast isn't nearly as sharp. Don't get me wrong, > >the displays are very nice, so the units are not defective.....and I would > >have never noticed the difference unless I put them side by side with the > >doublespeed unit. > > > >But the doublespeed unit display is noticably sharper. I have gotten > >several opinions on this, so it is not just me. > > > >Since the double doesn't have the driver yet, my guess is that it is > >refreshing at doublespeed, hence the improvement. > > I have really not ever seen ANY difference in CONTRAST between double speed > units and single speed units. > > >With that said, and considering the fact that the doublespeed driver allows > >the tweaking of the refresh rate, > > It does? How? If it is what I described above, then no, all units > double-speeded or not have that ability. > > >I was wondering if I could use the driver (or some similar driver) on a > >non-doublespeed unit to increase the refresh rate. (In other words, I > >would like ALL my units to use higher refresh rates, even if it slightly > >affects performance). > > I am not sure the terms are correct, but I really do not know for sure, so > I won't comment with any authority. I do not think that refresh rate has > anything to do with the contrast of the LCD screen, but again, this is not > my expertise and I would love to learn. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 14:13:24 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. Comments: To: E M In-Reply-To: <004e01c26fcc$84b3e9b0$6401a8c0@workgroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10/9/02-02:46 PM, you wrote: >Thanks for the help, but I know about the -/+ keys. Ok, I was not sure. >I am really refering to when both palmtops are at thier optimal settings >(using -/+) the doublespeed is still significantly sharper. (for lack of a >better word). Basically easier to read in limited light. I believe what you see is the differences among the screens. THAT i have seen. HP used more than one source for the screens and some are nicer to read than others, all else being equal. I have 5 palmtops and two of them seem "greener" than the rest, and the 1000CX screen seems more "golden". This is not adjustable AFAIK by software, more by luck - get enough palmtops until you find the "best looking" screen and then replace the innards. >I really am quite sure it is due to the higher refresh rate of the >doublespeed. I will have to mess with the drivers to see if i can boost the >refresh on a normal unit. Let us know. I really was not aware that the LCD contrast is affected by the speedup. It is always good to learn something new. avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 22:00:27 +0200 Reply-To: Vagner Martin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Vagner Martin Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 I have a DS(and backlighted) unit and i think that it is possible to = change the refresh rate by the DOTCLK.COM + parameter 0-255. It also have influence to speed of the HP. Martin -----Original Message----- From: Avi Meshar [mailto:hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:13 PM To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. At 10/9/02-02:46 PM, you wrote: >Thanks for the help, but I know about the -/+ keys. Ok, I was not sure. >I am really refering to when both palmtops are at thier optimal = settings >(using -/+) the doublespeed is still significantly sharper. (for lack = of a >better word). Basically easier to read in limited light. I believe what you see is the differences among the screens. THAT i have seen. HP used more than one source for the screens and some are nicer to read than others, all else being equal. I have 5 palmtops and two of = them seem "greener" than the rest, and the 1000CX screen seems more "golden". This is not adjustable AFAIK by software, more by luck - get enough palmtops until you find the "best looking" screen and then replace the = innards. >I really am quite sure it is due to the higher refresh rate of the >doublespeed. I will have to mess with the drivers to see if i can = boost the >refresh on a normal unit. Let us know. I really was not aware that the LCD contrast is affected by the speedup. It is always good to learn something new. avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:20:55 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Backlight Upgrade news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Wed, 09.10.02 11:15 PM +0200 Hi friends, since I noticed that some people get impatient about the backlight upgrade, please stand by and don't do anything you might regret later! I mean, don't do a backlight upgrade by yourself as long as you are not totally sure you CAN really do it. There are so many sensitive parts in the palmtop, which could be damaged. I'm just working on a detailed instruction sheet on how to do the upgrade based on the parts coming with the backlight upgrade kit, which will be available soon. This sheet will describe each single step in detail, so that it should not be too hard to do the upgrade. And - I repeat: There will probably be even upgrading service available, so wait some more time, please. It is not only me controlling the progress, and I have so many other things to do currently. So it can take some more weeks or even months until the kit and service is available. But it will. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 06:50:27 +0800 Reply-To: Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: text editor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone, Could someone recommend a good text editor preferrably system manager compliant (exm program). I need it to be able to open multiple files simultaneously (most of the time 3 files will be open). The text files will not be longer than 100K each and will average usually 50k long. I will be cutting and pasting between text files and the built-in database and/or phonebook (hence the need of the program to be sms compliant). Any recommendations? Many thanks in advance. Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 17:10:31 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: text editor In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20021009221021.006a1ecc@mindgate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed PE or PalEdit, is not EXM but will cust and paste just fine (it is NOT necessary to be an EXM to cut and paste!). You can have as many files open as your memory will allow (some small pieces are used to track the files) and as to size - whatever can fit on your disk. I had several files EACH several MEGABYTES open. Cutting and pasting worked fine, too. Best place to download: D&A Website http;//www.dasoft.com - second line click on file index, search or scroll to PE.ZIP. 2 locations: ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/PE/pe.zip and the nirror: http://alwaysafe.com/dasoft/public_ftp/PE/pe.zip May as well pick up PICK.ZIP while at it. Enjoy. Avi At 10/9/02-05:50 PM, you wrote: >Hi everyone, > >Could someone recommend a good text editor preferrably system manager >compliant (exm program). I need it to be able to open multiple files >simultaneously (most of the time 3 files will be open). The text files >will not be longer than 100K each and will average usually 50k long. I >will be cutting and pasting between text files and the built-in database >and/or phonebook (hence the need of the program to be sms compliant). > >Any recommendations? Many thanks in advance. > >Oliver > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:46:33 +0800 Reply-To: JIMMY TAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JIMMY TAN Subject: Genealogy Program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Does anyone know how to change the color settings of Family Scrap Book? It's hard to make out anything on the LX's mono screen. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance. Jimmy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:03:25 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi Meshar wrote: > I have really not ever seen ANY difference in CONTRAST between double speed > units and single speed units. My 2X LX's display is poorer than both my 1X units. Judging by past comments on a similar thread mine is an exception, but it does exist. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 20:28:21 -0400 Reply-To: N Knight Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: N Knight Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX keyboard Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry to hear about your mishap......don't do anything rash.....leave the device to dry thoroughly for several weeks and then try it.....I've heard of people who have dropped devices like this into water/toilets/etc. and have let them dry for about a month and they worked. The key is to let it dry completely inside and out. Don't try using it until it is completely dry.......just put the device away and try it again around November 10th. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.=20 http://www.hotmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 22:19:56 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: text editor Comments: To: Oliver Chua In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20021009221021.006a1ecc@mindgate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Could someone recommend a good text editor preferrably system manager >>compliant (exm program). I need it to be able to open multiple files the only .exm editor that comes to my mind is freyja i believe it comes in both flavors .exm or .exe, if it can handle multiple open files i dont remember ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 22:19:49 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX keyboard Comments: To: Jack Skelley In-Reply-To: <3DA46104.1FA29F27@NewJerseyDevils.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I did a very dumb thing yesterday...I dumped a glass of water on my >>200LX it happens to the best of us, when it happened to me i waited days for the unit to dry out when it still didnt work i sent it to hp they sent it back saying the machine was unrepairable just for the heck of it i plugged it in and to my surprise the machine worked and gave me a year or two more of service. my suggestion is to let it dry longer before giving up on it ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:24:56 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. In-Reply-To: <200210100003.g9A03Pf11597@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- 02h15m ago Russel Brooks wrote: > My 2X LX's display is poorer than both my 1X units. > Judging by past comments on a similar thread mine is an > exception, but it does exist. Russ, I don't suppose a shit-ctrl-r makes any improvement? SHIFT-CTRL-R - Shift through 40,50,60,90,119Hz screen refresh rates SHIFT-CTRL-N - Returns refresh, screen off, and slow mode to normal I tried this here, and found the normal mode to be clearest. -- -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD (BTW ROBOWEB now provides a 123 interface for yquotes digs) (If anyone wants a sample 123 sheet, just email) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:56:30 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: text editor In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- 31m ago Larry Tachna wrote: > the only .exm editor that comes to my mind is freyja i > believe it comes in both flavors .exm or .exe, if it can > handle multiple open files i dont remember Freyja! Brings back memories. It will do up to 11 files at once. The .exm needs over 300K under sysman I think. One program I never used, but wanted to. Then, along came PalEdit :) I wonder if anyone here uses Freyja? -- -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD (CLOCKS now displays stars, btw) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:10:13 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. In-Reply-To: <200210100003.g9A03Pf11597@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed There are differences in the quality of screens - in the sense that there are several sources for them, but I really doubt that the DSing of Palmtops makes ANY difference in screen quality (aside of course from the case where you run a DS without the DS software...) This is what I meant. I may have expressed myself in a way that confused, sorry. Avi At 10/9/02-07:03 PM, you wrote: >Avi Meshar wrote: > > I have really not ever seen ANY difference in CONTRAST between double speed > > units and single speed units. > >My 2X LX's display is poorer than both my 1X units. >Judging by past comments on a similar thread mine is an >exception, but it does exist. > >Cheers... Russ > >DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:13:01 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. In-Reply-To: <20021010022408.3FCC14073@tiger.actrix.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Tony, Which version of SPD31 do you use for these commands? (I changed a word in your message, my Editor complained it was too loose language to post in public ) At 10/9/02-09:24 PM, you wrote: >-- >02h15m ago Russel Brooks wrote: > > > My 2X LX's display is poorer than both my 1X units. > > Judging by past comments on a similar thread mine is an > > exception, but it does exist. > >Russ, I don't suppose a shiFt-ctrl-r makes any improvement? > >SHIFT-CTRL-R - Shift through 40,50,60,90,119Hz screen > refresh rates > >SHIFT-CTRL-N - Returns refresh, screen off, and slow mode > to normal > >I tried this here, and found the normal mode to be clearest. > >-- >-Tony > http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: > POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD >(BTW ROBOWEB now provides a 123 interface for yquotes digs) >(If anyone wants a sample 123 sheet, just email) > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:21:31 -0700 Reply-To: Michael Kopplin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Kopplin Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. In-Reply-To: <20021010022408.3FCC14073@tiger.actrix.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Tony Hutchins wrote: > 02h15m ago Russel Brooks wrote: > > My 2X LX's display is poorer than both my 1X units. > > Judging by past comments on a similar thread mine is an > > exception, but it does exist. > > Russ, I don't suppose a shit-ctrl-r makes any improvement? > > SHIFT-CTRL-R - Shift through 40,50,60,90,119Hz screen > refresh rates > > SHIFT-CTRL-N - Returns refresh, screen off, and slow mode > to normal > > I tried this here, and found the normal mode to be clearest. Which speed is normal? In my case I found 1 or 2 ctrl-shift-r's after a Ctrl-shift-n made the blacks a little blacker, and therefore clearer. A third gave it a noticeable flicker and faded black areas, so I'm assuming this would be 40, making normal 60, and the clearer ones 90 and 119. Oddly, at the 119, in one of my software carousel sessions, the screen has a horizontal line near the base of every character row. This only happens in the one session. I think I will try it at 90 for a while. Is there any downside to running at the faster refresh? Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:51:44 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Avi 01h11m ago Avi Meshar wrote: > There are differences in the quality of screens - in the sense that there > are several sources for them, but I really doubt that the DSing of Palmtops I believe that Hitachi was the only source for screens. I have seen many screens and so far all were made by Hitachi (these with good contrast and these with bad contrast, these with a greenish background and these with dreyish background...). I rather think that Hitachi simply improved the quality of their displays over time. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:51:47 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Non-pcmcia ethernet for the 200LX. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Tamas 5 days 13h03m ago Feher Tamas wrote: > - One is called the AVR ethernet controller, designed by a japanese electronics > enthusiast. It consists of one only three active elements: the Realtek 8019AS > ethernet chip, one ATMEGA163-8PC (a 8-bit/16k risc microcontroller) and a MAX238 > serial port ic. On one end it has 10megabit TX ethernet, the other end is plain > 9-pin serial. And a complete design layout is provided for free. Could it be > used by the palmtop? This sounds like it would need a special driver. If the developer offers a DOS driver or at least describes the protocol used on the serial port, it could be done. > - The other thingie is called the DECServer 90TL. This is a book-sized box, that > accepts up to 7 serial devices (at 57.6kbps max) and provides them with access > to ethernet tcp/ip networks over PPP. Sorrowfully it has only a BNC (coax) > ethernet output, so you need some converter to plug it into todays twisted pair > networks. (Some cheaper HUBs still have one BNC connector, however). > The interesting issue is, this box would theoretically allow you to use the same > connection method (PPP) to internet when you are at home/office or on the road. > I just got one DEC 90TL, so I could test or lend it to someone to test. Since this thing incorporates a PPP server, it can probably be used out-of-the-box with all programs providing a TCP/IP stack over PPP, that is almost all comm programs: WWW/LX, DOSPPP, LXTCP etc. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:51:45 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX keyboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 04h04m ago Larry Tachna wrote: > it happens to the best of us, when it happened to me i waited days for the > unit to dry out when it still didnt work i sent it to hp they sent it back > saying the machine was unrepairable just for the heck of it i plugged it in > and to my surprise the machine worked and gave me a year or two more of > service. my suggestion is to let it dry longer before giving up on it Either dry longer, or, better, take the keyboard apart. I think that if keypresses are not recognized, there might be water between the screen foils, and it may be hard and may take a very somg time to let it dry there without taking it apart. On http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair/dismantle.shtml there is a description how to take the keyboard entirely apart. It's not too difficult, but it is time consuming. Especially reassembling is time consuming, every single one of the plastic pins between the keys (about 100-150 pins I guess) must be pressed back into its hole again. And that without breaking the sensitive key grid. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 01:27:58 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. In-Reply-To: <200210100651.g9A6pLf21632@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Could be! We were told there were several vendors. The point is still valid: There are screen that are of exquisite quality and those that are of lesser quality. Indepndent of any software. I am amazed to find out that the screen can be refreshed at different rates - that floors me! I wish I had that software. Is it on SUPER among the latest you got from Mack? Avi At 10/10/02-01:51 AM, you wrote: >Hi Avi > >01h11m ago Avi Meshar wrote: > > > There are differences in the quality of screens - in the sense that there > > are several sources for them, but I really doubt that the DSing of Palmtops > >I believe that Hitachi was the only source for screens. I have seen >many screens and so far all were made by Hitachi (these with good >contrast and these with bad contrast, these with a greenish background >and these with dreyish background...). >I rather think that Hitachi simply improved the quality of their >displays over time. > >GTX >daniel > > > >-- >http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact >http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:30:19 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021010001125.04c66ec0@mail.alwaysafe.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 02h08m ago Avi Meshar wrote: > Tony, Which version of SPD31 do you use for these > commands? 2.0b Dated January 2001. (I changed a word in your message, my Editor > complained it was too loose language to post in public ) Thanks Avi! Ahha, yes, the "F". - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:30:21 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 01h02m ago Michael Kopplin wrote: > Which speed is normal? I don't know, but noticed similar effects to you - and agree that normal speed is likely to be 60. [...] >Is there any downside to running at the faster refresh? I don't know. Maybe it uses slightly more power? - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:17:37 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: text editor Comments: To: Tony Hutchins In-Reply-To: <20021010025542.2230E14224@dragon.actrix.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Freyja! Brings back memories. It will do up to 11 >>files at once. The .exm needs over 300K under sysman I think. >>One program I never used, but wanted to. Then, along came >>PalEdit :) I wonder if anyone here uses Freyja? I dont remember many details about freyja other than i used it for a while and for a reason i cant remember switched to qedit and than tse which i still use even on my windows machine today ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:26:24 +0800 Reply-To: Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: text editor Comments: To: Larry Tachna Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Larry, I know Freyja is on super and i just downloaded it but did you personally use it? I also want peoples' personal opinion/preference? Oliver Larry Tachna blah, blah, blahed ... >the only .exm editor that comes to my mind is freyja i believe it comes in >both flavors .exm or .exe, if it can handle multiple open files i dont >remember > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:18:35 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Mike 07h43m ago Michael Kopplin wrote: > > SHIFT-CTRL-R - Shift through 40,50,60,90,119Hz screen > > refresh rates > > > > SHIFT-CTRL-N - Returns refresh, screen off, and slow mode > > to normal > > Which speed is normal? In my case I found 1 or 2 ctrl-shift-r's > after a Ctrl-shift-n made the blacks a little blacker, and > therefore clearer. A third gave it a noticeable flicker and > faded black areas, so I'm assuming this would be 40, making > normal 60, and the clearer ones 90 and 119. Oddly, at the 119, Here I get the flicker after the second Sh-Ctrl-R, so normal seems to be 90 Hz. I assume choosing a higher rate reduces CPU processing speed. Can the 119Uz be chosen by default in some way, with a command line parameter for example? GTX daniel > in one of my software carousel sessions, the screen has a > horizontal line near the base of every character row. This only > happens in the one session. I think I will try it at 90 for a > while. Is there any downside to running at the faster refresh? > > Mike > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:08:02 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Re: text editor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I don't know if the swap-shop parts idea has gone anywhere, but I have been thinking about it and I have a couple of suggestions, should it be something the group decides to do. These are just concepts to work with. Sorry if I seem a bit cynical, but I think some precautions are advisable since this is a public forum and not all passerbys would share the groups honest and generous nature. 1) Make each part have a given number of points....Like a hinge cap would be 2 or battery door would be 8 (these are abitrary, actual values would have to be decided on based upon how rare a part is...for example a screen would be alot of points). This way as people donate parts to the swap shop, they would get a point credit (for simplicity, I don't think this would be "refundable" should they move onto a different PDA). That way, people who participate will benefit. (avoids the case where someone just asks for parts with no donations....not that anyone in this group would ever do that, but perhaps some unscruptulous liquidator/collector would try to take advatage of the generous "comunity" atmosphere of the group). 2) Total points for a Palmtop parts would add up to (somewhat more) than the average asking price for a palmtop on ebay. By making points almost a one-to-one relationship with a dollar, a person who is low on points could make up the difference in cash. Once the swap shop gets enough cash, it could search for a good deal on a complete unit (to use as parts) on Ebay. (The reason the points should add up to more than the price of a palmtop is becuase some parts will almost never be used and others (such as screen, motherboard, etc) would be in very high demand (causing a constant shortage). 3) A complete list of all parts (and points) would ALWAYS be available to the group....basically an "Open Book" policy. This gives donators secure knowledge that what they give is accounted for and shows all users what is in need. 4) Users might need to be limited to those registered in the user database (yeah, okay, I know I am not in the database). This gives swappers real identities and again, limits ability for outsiders to scam the swap-shop. 5) Points may need to be adjusted yearly to account for replacement costs of complete units (for parts) on Ebay....Prices change, so points would have to as well. 6) Once a swap-shop is started all donators on record would be able to vote on changes to swap-shop policy. Ensuring that the people that make the swap-shop possible (the donators) have a say in how the parts are handled. 7) Multiple swap shops could be setup in different parts of the world to reduce overseas shipping costs. The swap shops would swap between each other to maintain inventory and ship munltiple parts in a single shipment. First of all, I think a poll of interest (and who could donate what) should be done to see if enough interest exists. Regards, Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Leibenguth" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 6:44 AM Subject: Swap-Shop (was: Re: clanky space-bar) > >Very good idea! Someone should set up something like that! > > If nobody started working on that right away, I could setup something... > (Any suggestions about the layout would be appreciated) > > > >> it is Daniel: reliable, resouceful, never says "no", trustworthy, and ... > >no. > > Yes you are, you proved it more than once ;-) > > >Too busy with my diploma thesis, last few exams and the > >backlight project. No chance. > > I could start it and transfer the swap-list to you whenever you want to take over, so you all don't have to memorize another URL... > > >> domesticated. > > Maybe I should interview your wife ;-)) > > regards, > Oliver > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:04:33 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:51 AM Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. > I believe that Hitachi was the only source for screens. I have seen > many screens and so far all were made by Hitachi (these with good > contrast and these with bad contrast, these with a greenish background > and these with dreyish background...). > I rather think that Hitachi simply improved the quality of their > displays over time. The unit I have with the best screen is my 100lx, bought long before there were 200lxs. The worst screen is my first 200lx. The next one, bought about 2 years later, is excellent. The best is the one I bought used so I don't know how old it is. I really suspect it was just a difference in production runs. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:10:17 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: text editor Comments: To: Oliver Chua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Chua" To: Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:26 AM Subject: Re: text editor > Hi Larry, > > I know Freyja is on super and i just downloaded it but did you personally > use it? I also want peoples' personal opinion/preference? I used Freyja on the 95 for a while but I found it confusing. I guess I was just too used to qedit. qedit can be windowed to fit the screen exactly and macros can be used to change it when you change screen resolutions. There are occasional glitches in this but for the most part it works very smoothly. And the glitches never take more than a couple of seconds to correct. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:10:18 +0200 Reply-To: Ulrich.Allen@GMX.De Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Uli Allen Subject: AW: Backlight Upgrade news In-Reply-To: <200210092120.g99LKX412817@mail2.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Daniel, I am looking forward to your information. Uli ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:26:32 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Swap shop - PLEASE READ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry for the duplicate. But I posted this under the wrong Subject previously. ----- Original Message ----- > Hello, > > I don't know if the swap-shop parts idea has gone anywhere, but I have been > thinking about it and I have a couple of suggestions, should it be something > the group decides to do. > > These are just concepts to work with. Sorry if I seem a bit cynical, but I > think some precautions are advisable since this is a public forum and not > all passerbys would share the groups honest and generous nature. > > 1) Make each part have a given number of points....Like a hinge cap would be > 2 or battery door would be 8 (these are abitrary, actual values would have > to be decided on based upon how rare a part is...for example a screen would > be alot of points). This way as people donate parts to the swap shop, they > would get a point credit (for simplicity, I don't think this would be > "refundable" should they move onto a different PDA). That way, people who > participate will benefit. (avoids the case where someone just asks for > parts with no donations....not that anyone in this group would ever do that, > but perhaps some unscruptulous liquidator/collector would try to take > advatage of the generous "comunity" atmosphere of the group). > 2) Total points for a Palmtop parts would add up to (somewhat more) than the > average asking price for a palmtop on ebay. By making points almost a > one-to-one relationship with a dollar, a person who is low on points could > make up the difference in cash. Once the swap shop gets enough cash, it > could search for a good deal on a complete unit (to use as parts) on Ebay. > (The reason the points should add up to more than the price of a palmtop is > becuase some parts will almost never be used and others (such as screen, > motherboard, etc) would be in very high demand (causing a constant > shortage). > 3) A complete list of all parts (and points) would ALWAYS be available to > the group....basically an "Open Book" policy. This gives donators secure > knowledge that what they give is accounted for and shows all users what is > in need. > 4) Users might need to be limited to those registered in the user database > (yeah, okay, I know I am not in the database). This gives swappers real > identities and again, limits ability for outsiders to scam the swap-shop. > 5) Points may need to be adjusted yearly to account for replacement costs of > complete units (for parts) on Ebay....Prices change, so points would have to > as well. > 6) Once a swap-shop is started all donators on record would be able to vote > on changes to swap-shop policy. Ensuring that the people that make the > swap-shop possible (the donators) have a say in how the parts are handled. > 7) Multiple swap shops could be setup in different parts of the world to > reduce overseas shipping costs. The swap shops would swap between each > other to maintain inventory and ship munltiple parts in a single shipment. > > First of all, I think a poll of interest (and who could donate what) should > be done to see if enough interest exists. > > Regards, > Eric > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Oliver Leibenguth" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 6:44 AM > Subject: Swap-Shop (was: Re: clanky space-bar) > > > > >Very good idea! Someone should set up something like that! > > > > If nobody started working on that right away, I could setup something... > > (Any suggestions about the layout would be appreciated) > > > > > >> it is Daniel: reliable, resouceful, never says "no", trustworthy, and > ... > > >no. > > > > Yes you are, you proved it more than once ;-) > > > > >Too busy with my diploma thesis, last few exams and the > > >backlight project. No chance. > > > > I could start it and transfer the swap-list to you whenever you want to > take over, so you all don't have to memorize another URL... > > > > >> domesticated. > > > > Maybe I should interview your wife ;-)) > > > > regards, > > Oliver > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:27:17 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Re: AW: Backlight Upgrade news Comments: To: Ulrich.Allen@GMX.De MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aren't we all ! 8-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Uli Allen" To: Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: AW: Backlight Upgrade news > Thanks Daniel, > I am looking forward to your information. > Uli > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:56:55 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Swap shop - PLEASE READ (formatted better) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry again for the duplicate !! (I cleaned up the formatting on the message.) Hello, I don't know if the swap-shop parts idea has gone anywhere, but I have been thinking about it and I have a couple of suggestions, should it be something the group decides to do. These are just concepts to work with. Sorry if I seem a bit cynical, but I think some precautions are advisable since this is a public forum and not all passerbys would share the groups honest and generous nature. 1) Make each part have a given number of points....Like a hinge cap would be 2 or battery door would be 8 (these are abitrary, actual values would have to be decided on based upon how rare a part is...for example a screen would be alot of points). This way as people donate parts to the swap shop, they would get a point credit (for simplicity, I don't think this would be "refundable" should they move onto a different PDA). That way, people who participate will benefit. (avoids the case where someone just asks for parts with no donations....not that anyone in this group would ever do that, but perhaps some unscruptulous liquidator/collector would try to take advatage of the generous "comunity" atmosphere of the group). 2) Total points for a Palmtop parts would add up to (somewhat more) than the average asking price for a palmtop on ebay. By making points almost a one-to-one relationship with a dollar, a person who is low on points could make up the difference in cash. Once the swap shop gets enough cash, it could search for a good deal on a complete unit (to use as parts) on Ebay. (The reason the points should add up to more than the price of a palmtop is becuase some parts will almost never be used and others (such as screen, motherboard, etc) would be in very high demand (causing a constant shortage). 3) A complete list of all parts (and points) would ALWAYS be available to the group....basically an "Open Book" policy. This gives donators secure knowledge that what they give is accounted for and shows all users what is in need. 4) Users might need to be limited to those registered in the user database (yeah, okay, I know I am not in the database). This gives swappers real identities and again, limits ability for outsiders to scam the swap-shop. 5) Points may need to be adjusted yearly to account for replacement costs of complete units (for parts) on Ebay....Prices change, so points would have to as well. 6) Once a swap-shop is started all donators on record would be able to vote on changes to swap-shop policy. Ensuring that the people that make the swap-shop possible (the donators) have a say in how the parts are handled. 7) Multiple swap shops could be setup in different parts of the world to reduce overseas shipping costs. The swap shops would swap between each other to maintain inventory and ship munltiple parts in a single shipment. First of all, I think a poll of interest (and who could donate what) should be done to see if enough interest exists. Regards, Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Leibenguth" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 6:44 AM Subject: Swap-Shop (was: Re: clanky space-bar) > >Very good idea! Someone should set up something like that! > > If nobody started working on that right away, I could setup something... > (Any suggestions about the layout would be appreciated) > > > >> it is Daniel: reliable, resouceful, never says "no", trustworthy, and ... > >no. > > Yes you are, you proved it more than once ;-) > > >Too busy with my diploma thesis, last few exams and the > >backlight project. No chance. > > I could start it and transfer the swap-list to you whenever you want to take over, so you all don't have to memorize another URL... > > >> domesticated. > > Maybe I should interview your wife ;-)) > > regards, > Oliver > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:20:38 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Fw: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. (2) Comments: To: chen@get.uni-paderborn.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Rudi is having problems posting to the forum, so Ii thought I would pass along this info he provided on setting the refresh rate on a non-doublespeed unit. Thanks again Rudi ! Regards, Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nan-shan Chen" > > lxstat D[isplay] F[rame] > > The the letter [F] was a mnemonic for "frame rate" > instead of "fresh". But I think it is self-documented > in lxstat which can be triggered by e.g. > > lxstat help > > Regards > Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 08:26:58 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: text editor In-Reply-To: <003101c27077$9aa32f00$2f0d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 02h35m ago Barry wrote: > I used Freyja on the 95 for a while but I found it confusing. > I guess I was just too used to qedit. I just tried Freyja (3.0) again and here could not get it out of 40 column mode, even with zooming. But I'm sure it must have users as it is mentioned quite a lot. VDE is also quite popular. FWIW I mainly use TSE on the desktop and PalEdit on the palmtop. -- -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:18:56 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi Meshar wrote: > There are differences in the quality of screens - in the sense that there > are several sources for them, but I really doubt that the DSing of Palmtops > makes ANY difference in screen quality (aside of course from the case where > you run a DS without the DS software...) This is what I meant. I may have > expressed myself in a way that confused, sorry. Avi, I'm trying remember what the screen looked like before I the LX upgraded and I don't think it was great but the 2X upgrade made it worse. It is also one of those displays that is totally unreadable without the speed driver. All you can are grey smeared lines of txt at the beginning of the boot process. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:19:00 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tony Hutchins wrote: > Russ, I don't suppose a shit-ctrl-r makes any improvement? > > SHIFT-CTRL-R - Shift through 40,50,60,90,119Hz screen > refresh rates > > SHIFT-CTRL-N - Returns refresh, screen off, and slow mode > to normal > > I tried this here, and found the normal mode to be clearest. Tony, I can't see much difference between them. Which one is the default after boot? I went back and read the T2T doc (SPD31.TXT 3-14-01) to learn more about the features I've never played with. It also mentions Shift-Ctrl-W toggles New Low Power Mode. What is this? I couldn't find anymore reference to Low Power anything in the rest of the doc. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:48:08 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. In-Reply-To: <200210102219.g9AMJ0f32241@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 01h20m ago Russel Brooks wrote: > Tony, > I can't see much difference between them. Which one is the > default after boot? I'm not sure - 60 or 90 > I went back and read the T2T doc (SPD31.TXT 3-14-01) to learn > more about the features I've never played with. > > It also mentions Shift-Ctrl-W toggles New Low Power Mode. > What is this? I couldn't find anymore reference to Low > Power anything in the rest of the doc. I never found out what that was. We need Mack to tell, or maybe one of the beta testers. It sounds useful though. All I know is I use device=c:\spd31.exe /M /C /K /B /N and it works great. I must be tempting fate but I've often had the 2.0 volts hit and needed to zoom around & find my charger, but never lost a byte! -- -Tony Backups? We don' *NEED* no steenking baX%^~,VbKx. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:53:17 -0500 Reply-To: Tim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Re: Swap shop - PLEASE READ In-Reply-To: <005e01c27079$cb9887c0$6401a8c0@workgroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow! You put a lot of thought into this(!). I like the idea. ... As for the "open book" policy, I'm for that, as long as it's not out there on a web page that can be scanned/cataloged by search engines, or viewed by the general public [to keep Spam down and privacy up]. I'm just taking a quick look at this and may've missed something in another post or two, but who's volunteering to be "swap shop central storage and tracking points"? Could be a bit of work and need some space (enough to store things in organized bins, above the basement flood lines, etc.).... [I can see there were LOTS of snipped-in pieces of conversation; so much of that may've been answered]. Interesting project! re: > First of all, I think a poll of interest (and who could donate what) should > be done to see if enough interest exists. > > Regards, > Eric Well, HIGH interest, unsure what I'd have for the "bin" ... I don't "need" much right now and I can see that tempering how much I'm willing to part with(!). Human nature, I suppose. I mean, If I broke my screen, hinge and btty. door, I might be able to "donate" (swap) a whole 100LX to get my 200LX back on line (the repairs would be above me though, and I'd need someone to do the repairs then ... That would be beyond the scope of the swap shop, wouldn't it?). On the same line of thinking: If I needed a btty door, I might only want to trade an IR cover.... Does that sound like "normal" human behavior [please, no "psychology flames" I'm not asking if anyone thinks *I'M* normal ]. And, would that sort of "offer based on need" behavior limit the effectiveness of the swap shop? --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 01:32:44 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Re: Swap shop - PLEASE READ Comments: To: Tim MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim, I believe Oliver (oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE) volanteered to run the swap-shop. So I guess he would be the person to ask about how he wants to handle it (or if he indeed is still interested in handling it at all). My suggestions were just that....suggestions. I was just considering the issues involved since his original post. Like I said in my earlier post, I think it would useful to see how much total interest (and tentative donations) we would have to start the swap-shop....I mean if no one wants to donate anything then the whole idea is pretty much unlikely to get off the ground. And you bring up a good point about human nature....there is a pretty good chance that display, motherboard, keyboard, or other hand-to-find items may not get donated. We could end up with 125 IR doors and nothing else 8-) Also, it seems that alot people have backup units and take care of thier own spare-parts needs, so there really may not be much interest. Then again, perhaps instead of donating parts, people might want to instead donate a small amount of cash that would go toward immediately purchasing units for spare-parts inventory (and give them a backup spare-parts credit)....but again, that is just a suggestion. Sorry, I don't have any answers, just posing questions....(which is of course the easy part 8-) Regards, Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:53 PM Subject: Re: Swap shop - PLEASE READ > Wow! > > You put a lot of thought into this(!). > > I like the idea. ... As for the "open book" policy, I'm for that, as long as > it's not out there on a web page that can be scanned/cataloged by search > engines, or viewed by the general public [to keep Spam down and privacy up]. > > I'm just taking a quick look at this and may've missed something in another > post or two, but who's volunteering to be "swap shop central storage and > tracking points"? Could be a bit of work and need some space (enough to > store things in organized bins, above the basement flood lines, etc.).... [I > can see there were LOTS of snipped-in pieces of conversation; so much of > that may've been answered]. > > Interesting project! > > re: > > First of all, I think a poll of interest (and who could donate what) > should > > be done to see if enough interest exists. > > > > Regards, > > Eric > > Well, HIGH interest, unsure what I'd have for the "bin" ... > > I don't "need" much right now and I can see that tempering how much I'm > willing to part with(!). Human nature, I suppose. I mean, If I broke my > screen, hinge and btty. door, I might be able to "donate" (swap) a whole > 100LX to get my 200LX back on line (the repairs would be above me though, > and I'd need someone to do the repairs then ... That would be beyond the > scope of the swap shop, wouldn't it?). On the same line of thinking: If I > needed a btty door, I might only want to trade an IR cover.... > > Does that sound like "normal" human behavior [please, no "psychology flames" > I'm not asking if anyone thinks *I'M* normal ]. And, would that sort > of "offer based on need" behavior limit the effectiveness of the swap shop? > > --tim > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:53:00 +0200 Reply-To: oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Leibenguth Subject: Re: Swap shop - PLEASE READ >I believe Oliver (oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE) volanteered to run the swap-shop. So >I guess he would be the person to ask about how he wants to handle it (or if >he indeed is still interested in handling it at all). I'm still interested in doing it ;-) I had a different thing in mind: Why not putting up a simple list where anyone can offer the parts he doesn't need and the price he wants for it? Much like: "I (foo@bar.com) offer part X and want X$ or part Y for it. Contact me for details." That's just another idea, I'm willing to put up that swapshop the way the majority of readers want it, as long as I can program it (plain html preferred). I can provide the necessary webspace and a domain-name that's unknown to spammers. I can even password-protect the pages as soon as I learned to fiddle with htaccess. regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:56:06 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: AW: Backlight Upgrade news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think so yes ;) [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "E M" To: Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:27 PM Subject: Re: AW: Backlight Upgrade news > Aren't we all ! > > 8-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Uli Allen" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:10 PM > Subject: AW: Backlight Upgrade news > > > > Thanks Daniel, > > I am looking forward to your information. > > Uli > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:18:12 +0800 Reply-To: Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: text editor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Avi, I just scanned the documents of PE. Although a DOS program, it seems capable of sharing clipboard information with Notetaker and Database. I will play around with it tonite. Thank you for your recommendation. Oliver >Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 17:10:31 -0500 >From: Avi Meshar >Subject: Re: text editor > >PE or PalEdit, is not EXM but will cust and paste just fine (it is NOT >necessary to be an EXM to cut and paste!). You can have as many files open >as your memory will allow (some small pieces are used to track the files) >and as to size - whatever can fit on your disk. I had several files EACH >several MEGABYTES open. Cutting and pasting worked fine, too. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:07:03 -0400 Reply-To: E M Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: E M Subject: Re: Swap shop - PLEASE READ Comments: To: oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oliver, I think you have the better idea. Very straightforward and easy to maintain. I didn't get a chance to check that link, but perhaps we could just add a part where other users can show what they need and (possibly) what they could trade/pay for it. I like your idea much better. Regards, Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Leibenguth" To: Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:53 AM Subject: Re: Swap shop - PLEASE READ > >I believe Oliver (oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE) volanteered to run the swap-shop. So > >I guess he would be the person to ask about how he wants to handle it (or if > >he indeed is still interested in handling it at all). > > I'm still interested in doing it ;-) > > I had a different thing in mind: > Why not putting up a simple list where anyone can offer the parts he doesn't need and the price he wants for it? > Much like: > "I (foo@bar.com) offer part X and want X$ or part Y for it. Contact me for details." > > That's just another idea, I'm willing to put up that swapshop the way the majority of readers want it, as long as I can program it (plain html preferred). I can provide the necessary webspace and a domain-name that's unknown to spammers. I can even password-protect the pages as soon as I learned to fiddle with htaccess. > > regards, > Oliver > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:16:20 -0300 Reply-To: Carlos Izzo Videla Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Carlos Izzo Videla Subject: OT: Domain Registration done ... Need Free Web hosting. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello: Michael Bel, Victor Roberts and Eric M.'s recommendations for www.godaddy.c= om as Registrar were good advise and right on the line. Very reasonable US$8.95/yr. for a dot com, great special offer of US$6.95/y= r. for a dot us plus free parking of your page till you are ready to roll= . Thanks to all of you for your input ... ;-) Now I need to find myself some good and free web hosting till my site is ge= ared up enough to transfer to something of a more complex nature. Any good experiences to comment on or suggestions to follow ? Thanks in advance, ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:28:03 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: text editor Comments: To: Tony Hutchins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Hutchins" To: Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 2:26 PM Subject: Re: text editor > FWIW I mainly use TSE on the desktop and PalEdit on > the palmtop. I used Qedit for years before TSE became available. As a programmer I used it a lot and became really good with it. I bought TSE about 2 years ago because some of the features looked so good. But I've never been able to get used to it. It's too much like Qedit and too different and I just can't seem to get used to it. If someone asked me about this my advice would be simply "stick to it". But when I try to I can't get anything done. Has anyone else had this problem and gotten past it? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:40:03 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Swap shop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "E M" To: Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: Swap shop - PLEASE READ (formatted better) > I don't know if the swap-shop parts idea has gone anywhere, but I have been > thinking about it and I have a couple of suggestions, should it be something > the group decides to do. > 1) Make each part have a given number of points....Like a hinge cap would be > 2 or battery door would be 8 (these are abitrary, actual values would have > to be decided on based upon how rare a part is...for example a screen would > be alot of points). This way as people donate parts to the swap shop, they > would get a point credit (for simplicity, I don't think this would be > "refundable" should they move onto a different PDA). That way, people who > participate will benefit. (avoids the case where someone just asks for > parts with no donations....not that anyone in this group would ever do that, > but perhaps some unscruptulous liquidator/collector would try to take > advatage of the generous "comunity" atmosphere of the group). Ok, here's a for-instance: I have a 200lx 1 meg that works just fine except that fully charged NiMH batteries last a little more than a day even if the unit isn't used. Let's say I decided to put this in the bin. How could points possibly be determined for it? I doubt that anyone knows what's wrong or how easily it might be repaired. It's usable as it is but not useful. Would this be a palmtop sans motherboard? etc. I'm not asking for a deal on this. I've been thinking of sending it to Thaddeus for repair when my finances improve a little. But there'll be other situations like this and others even less clear-cut. What to do? I think before any plan like this actually goes into effect there has to be a solid plan to deal with problematic situations like this. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:18:36 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: text editor Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <001c01c2713a$de513120$360d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Has anyone else had this problem and gotten past it? not me i had no problem switching and even use tse on my windows machine from sendto menu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:27:03 -0400 Reply-To: Eric Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Subject: Re: Swap shop Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry, I think Oliver had the better idea in that the swap shop would be much simpler if you could post what you need and what you are willing to swap and/or pay for it. This does incur other problems if you are not sure what is wrong the unit, or if you are uncomfortable disassembling the unit. (although Daniel has some great pages on hardware issues). The swap-shop is NOT intended to replace the excellent service done by Thaddeus, just more to handle minor (user-fixable) needs of the group. For issues such as yours, you would need to either get more comfortable with hardware (and diagnostics as well, considering your problem), or go with you original idea of sending it to Thaddeus. Since any modification to the palmtop risks it's destruction, a serious problem is best handled (for most users) by the experts at Thaddeus as (I believe) they warranty thier work for an additional 90 days as well....not to mention they have a flat rate for repairs. I think the swap-shop and Thaddues would together serve useful (but very different) purposes, depending on the severity of the problem and the technical skills of the palmtop owner. Regards, Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" > Ok, here's a for-instance: > > I have a 200lx 1 meg that works just fine except that fully charged > NiMH batteries last a little more than a day even if the unit isn't > used. Let's say I decided to put this in the bin. > > How could points possibly be determined for it? I doubt that > anyone knows what's wrong or how easily it might be repaired. It's > usable as it is but not useful. Would this be a palmtop sans > motherboard? etc. > > I'm not asking for a deal on this. I've been thinking of sending > it to Thaddeus for repair when my finances improve a little. But > there'll be other situations like this and others even less > clear-cut. > > What to do? I think before any plan like this actually goes into > effect there has to be a solid plan to deal with problematic > situations like this. > > Barry > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:21:35 -0400 Reply-To: Jack Skelley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jack Skelley Organization: New Jersey Devils Hockey Club Subject: Water Logged 200LX...more info... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good Afternoon All: On the advise of many on this list I took the keyboard apart and amazingly found no liquid after 3 days. But there was a *residue* on the keyboard grid. So I carefully cleaned the grid and put the LX back together. The disassembly of the keyboard was easier then I originally thought. But, still no keyboard input at this point! So I let it sit on the date/time/owner info init screen. BTW, the clock is counting to that seems encouraging. I let it sit and leaned over and touched a number key and it appeared on the screen. I continued filling out the screen and went to the program manager were the keyboard locked up. Now no keys worked. So I removed the batteries (main and BU) and tried restarting. It is currently sitting on the time question and no kbd entry is possible. So now the question is.......what is making the 200LX intermittent??? I checked the keyboard connection area again and all appears ok. BTW, I have enjoyed some of the posts. Especially the possibility of a display backlight. I have thought many times that it was possible to place 4 T-1 high brightness white (or green) LEDs to light the display which could be controlled by a micro slide switch in the case. Regards, Jack Skelley Director, Programming and Computer Operations New Jersey Devils Hockey Club skelley@newjerseydevils.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:20:31 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Swap shop Comments: To: Eric MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric" To: "Barry" ; Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Swap shop > Barry, > > I think Oliver had the better idea in that the swap shop would be much > simpler if you could post what you need and what you are willing to swap > and/or pay for it. I agree. > This does incur other problems if you are not sure what is wrong the unit, > or if you are uncomfortable disassembling the unit. (although Daniel has > some great pages on hardware issues). Never hoppen!!! :) > The swap-shop is NOT intended to replace the excellent service done by > Thaddeus, just more to handle minor (user-fixable) needs of the group. For > issues such as yours, you would need to either get more comfortable with > hardware (and diagnostics as well, considering your problem), or go with you > original idea of sending it to Thaddeus. I understand that. I wasn't looking for information, really. I was pointing out a potential problem with the plan that was being discussed. Something I thought would have to be dealt with. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:21:17 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: text editor Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Tachna" To: "HPLX-L List Server" ; "Barry" Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 11:18 AM Subject: RE: text editor > >>Has anyone else had this problem and gotten past it? > > not me i had no problem switching and even use tse on my windows machine > from sendto menu I have that set up, too. I bought the 16 bit and the 32 bit version. Oh well. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:09:17 -0400 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I am amazed to find out that the screen can be refreshed at different rates > - that floors me! I wish I had that software. Is it on SUPER among the > latest you got from Mack? > > Avi LXSTAT can do this for you: lxstat d f [value] ...where "value" is in Hz. But I never saw a real advantage to this in my display quality. Maybe I have one of th better Hitachi LCDs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:17:32 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: text editor In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20021011191642.0069e6bc@mindgate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10/11/02-06:18 AM, Oliver wrote: >Hi Avi, > >I just scanned the documents of PE. Although a DOS program, it seems More than "seems" - it was designed to do it. If you run it OUTSIDE system manager (as I always use it) then you cannot share with notebook or databases because there are no notebook or database app alive at that point. But inside sysmgr no problems. >capable of sharing clipboard information with Notetaker and Database. I >will play around with it tonite. Thank you for your recommendation. You are welcome. Enjoy the play. avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:28:44 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: text editor Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <00c101c27153$11b69d80$360d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I have that set up, too. I bought the 16 bit and the 32 bit >>version. Oh well. :) thats a thought get the 32 bit version for the windows machine lol are they still around? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 12:35:40 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- 04h10m ago Bruce Martin wrote: > LXSTAT can do this for you: > > lxstat d f [value] Thanks Bruce - made me get the latest lxstat from Super. I didn't realise this was a new feature. And it tells me that the normal refresh rate is 90 hz for both single/double speed units. The shift+ctrl+r with spd31 jumps first to 119 and then cycles 40,50,60,90. One unit I have really likes the 119 - another develops lines, with the rate above 100. -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 20:03:22 -0400 Reply-To: Eric Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. Comments: To: Tony Hutchins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Hutchins" > One unit I have really likes the 119 - another develops lines, > with the rate above 100. Okay, I am curious....what do you that it really likes 119? Is the text "sharper"? (Or Is it smiling now? 8-) Eric ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 01:50:31 +0200 Reply-To: "Ejnar Z. Rath" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Ejnar Z. Rath" Subject: Ejnar Z. Rath/MaerskData/MDG is away from the office until 21-10-2002 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am on vacation until monday 21-oct-2002. Your letter has not been forwarded but I will read it when I am back. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:54:04 -0700 Reply-To: Don Evans Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Evans Subject: Re: EBay sales of HP 200LX - Prolink... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Listers- Rob Lewis wrote to ask if there had been a follow-up to my experience with Prolink's (aka Alex Domingues) offering of HP 200LX's on eBay. Since I originally wrote the list about this in July-- here is more. -Don Evans ---------------------------------10/8/02-------------------------------- Hi Rob, With regard to Alex Domingues (Prolink)--NO SATISFACTION at all. Neither has there been any resolution to the problem. In summary: 1- We exchanged several emails during the months of July and August. I have inserted some copies in the trailer to this email below. 2- He sent me a second unit to replace the first, that was even worse (missing pixels, peeling display frame, generally bad condition...). I complained, detailing a few of the problems, and told him I was returning the unit, and that I expected to receive a refund. 3- He responded by asking me to tell him what was wrong with the unit-- this was really strange, because I had already told him... 4- The last retutned unit reached him on August 2. Since then he has refused to answer or acknowledge my emails. 5- Ebay has been NO HELP at all. They respond with kind words, but insist on putting you through legal gymnastics that only serve to protect their own butt. Much better help would be to press for some resolution. Bottom line: 1- Use great care in deciding on where and with whom you want to do business. 2- Do not rely on guarantees or promises from eBay-- they are worthless. 3- Seek out good people-- they are there, sometimes even in far places... Regards, -Don. Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:21 PM To: Don Evans Hi Don, Did you ever receive satisfaction from Alex? .... Rob Lewis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alex- The US Post Office informs me that you received on Friday, August 2, your last HP 200LX unit that I returned to you. It is now August 21. I have heard nothing from you-- I have received no refund from you. What gives? So far I have posted no feedback, and taken no other actions to remedy this. But time is running out... I must have a response from you, Alex. -Don Evans ---------------------------------------------------------- No, Alex. The term MINT means something very different from the way you have taken it. I am also a collector of old/ancient objects of various sorts, and I am very aware of how others, both on eBay and off, interpret these terms. Date of manufacture has very little to do with it. If you wish to pursue the use of terms as they might describe the HP200LX, let me recommend to you Thaddeus Corp. For the last 9-10 years they have focused on service, repair and refurbishing of the LX machines... Meanwhile, you should have received your last shipped HP200LX back from me. Let me know when I may expect my refund. -Don Evans. ------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Prolink To: Don Evans Sent: 8/1/02 Don , For a unit that has been descontinued for over 4 years by the manufacture they look in very good condition and I can say MINT because they have no Flaws . Again ,before you sent it back , please tell me in specific details what are the problems with the unit operationally speaking . Thank you ! Alex. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 To: 'Prolink_attn_Alex' Alex, I have explained in my last email-- see below-- four such defects, that I would expect your people to catch. But that is really not the main point. The main point is that you are advertising on EBay that you have MINT condition units to offer to bidders in your auction. THAT is what I bid on, and THAT is what I expected you to deliver to me. You have sent me on two occasions an HP200LX in the hopes that might complete it. However, NEITHER of the units would qualify to be called "in GOOD condition", let alone called "MINT". And I assumed this time, that if you had a mint or near-mint machine, you would have sent it... So, please, just send me my money and lets call it quits. -Don Evans. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ At 10:34 AM 7/31/02 -0400, you wrote: >Warning . >If the unit is return with out any defects not only you will not be >refunded but also the same unit only goes back to you with payment of >shipping. Now , if the units is really defective you'll have your refund, >so explain in details if you're sure about any flaws . >Thank you ! >Alex. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:21 PM >To: Prolink_attn_Alex >Alex, >This unit (#SG 81100770) has the following serious defects: >1- Some of the keys of the keyboard don't make contact without >pressing hard (try pressing Q as in Quit). >2- The display has a 1/8 inch pixel gap at the top of the screen. This >is seen in any of the standard built-in applications. This most likely is >from some pixel rows that are inoperative. >3- The plastic mask that frames the display is peeled away from the >lid and is not fixed in place. >4- The outside bottom lid of the case is badly scarred up-- once again, >more evidence of hard and careless usage. >There are probably more flaws to comment on in this machine, but I >can't afford to give it the time. It's already far too much.... and >unacceptable by any standards. >You advertised in your original offering HP 200LX machines that >were MINT, meaning machines that are the same as from the factory >and essentially unused. Apparently you do not have such machines. >I must now insist that you RETURN MY PAYMENT to me. >Regards, >-Don Evans ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:03:51 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays. In-Reply-To: <00a701c27182$c7b2dbb0$6401a8c0@workgroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- 01h29m ago Eric wrote: > > One unit I have really likes the 119 - another develops lines, > > with the rate above 100. > > Okay, I am curious....what do you that it really likes 119? > > Is the text "sharper"? Yes, slightly "sharper" :) Hard to describe - the text seems blacker and the background stays the same. It's as if the letters suddenly jump towards me. Opps maybe I need an eye check-up :) > (Or Is it smiling now? 8-) That too - ;-D -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 21:31:26 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: text editor Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Tachna" To: "HPLX-L List Server" ; "Barry" Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: RE: text editor > > >>I have that set up, too. I bought the 16 bit and the 32 bit > >>version. Oh well. :) > > thats a thought get the 32 bit version for the windows machine lol are they > still around? I was on their site a few weeks ago looking at the lastest uploads of qedit macros. They're still there. No upgrades for a while but what do they need to add? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 04:49:23 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: re sys-apps EXM editors (was "text editor") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i am not sure about Freja and memory, but i have worked with six open texts at the same time .. using Memo for the main text, the notes in the four applications (Appt,Phone,Db,Note), and TODO.EXM's note field. all accessed via hotkeys and copy/paste via internal clipboard. todo.exm is on SUPER (anyone has the doc's English translation?) Dr.Nat ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:56:19 +0800 Reply-To: Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: text editor Comments: To: Barry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Barry blah, blah, blahed ... > >I used Freyja on the 95 for a while but I found it confusing. I >guess I was just too used to qedit. Yes, the emacs commands takes a while to get used to and the large footprint is a big disadvantage. But it does do the job. I'm in the process of trying others but worse comes to worst freyja is my fall back. Thanks Barry and to Larry too who originally recommended this software to me. Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 12:36:01 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: text editor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Avi 15h11m ago Avi Meshar wrote: > More than "seems" - it was designed to do it. If you run it OUTSIDE system > manager (as I always use it) then you cannot share with notebook or > databases because there are no notebook or database app alive at that > point. But inside sysmgr no problems. Actually you can do that using Clipvue. Even if no software carousel task swapping is active, clipvue keeps the clipboard contents, until they are overwritten, in its data file, so you can use them time-shifted. Two system macros make using clipvue under System Manager as easy as pressing Fn-F1 for copy and Fn-F2 for paste, for example (that's how I have set it up). And PE uses the same clipboard file as clipvue, so data can easily be exchanged between PE running outside SysMgr and any SysMgr app. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:09:51 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: text editor Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: <200210121035.g9CAZZf20033@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10/12/02-05:36 Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > If you run it OUTSIDE system manager (as I always use it) then you cannot > > share with notebook or databases because there are no notebook or > database > app alive at that > > point. But inside sysmgr no problems. > >Actually you can do that using Clipvue. Even if no software carousel task >swapping is active, clipvue keeps the clipboard contents, until they are >overwritten, in its data file, so you can use them time-shifted. Actually, that is exactly what I was using and forgot. I would clip an email in POST/LX which ran in a SW carousel workarea that had no Sysmgr in it, then jumped over to a Sysmgr workarea where there was an open database and pasted the email in a note field of a database. As you observed, PE and Clipvue use the same clipboard. avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 17:18:11 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: SPD31.EXE Low Power MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wrote to Mack and asked about the Shift-Ctrl-W Low Power mode mentioned in the SPD31.TXT file and got this response... > From: "Mack Baggette" > I see now that it is some sort of Card slot > low power mode. I have no other details than that. Using the normal mode > key combo should reset all selects to the defaults. Since I use "LXCIC O" to completely power off my flash card I don't see a need for a low power mode but others might. Cheers... 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Contact me for details." I think this is the best way to do it. So things are shipped only when shipping is needed. However, I don't know if it would really work out well, because the parts needed most often are always the same ones. But why not try it? If it isn't convenient enough, we can cancel it again. Easy if it's "only" a list. I would surely have something for that list, and I would also need some parts. > That's just another idea, I'm willing to put up that swapshop the way the majority of readers want it, as long as I can program it (plain html preferred). I can provide the necessary webspace and a domain-name that's unknown to spammers. I can even pa s > sword-protect the pages as soon as I learned to fiddle with htaccess. Mail me privately - I'll gladly support you with htaccess if you want. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:23:34 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX...more info... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jack 1 day 14h43m ago Jack Skelley wrote: > So now the question is.......what is making the 200LX intermittent??? > I checked the keyboard connection area again and all appears ok. Make sure the two keyboard case halves are pressing the contacts together strong enough. There are two plastic pins on the left and on the right of the keyboard contacts in one shell half, and two fitting holes in the other half. This mechanism establishes the pressure needed for te keyboard contacts to work reliably. If this seems to be okay, clean all keyboard contacts on the motherboard and on the white keyboard contact foil, but be sure not to clean away the black contact layer!! (Maybe this is what you thought was a residue? If you wipe it out too much, the contacts cannot work anymore. It is some sort of thin graphite layer. It's the same stuff as inside the bubbles of the transparent keyboard bubble foil.) > BTW, I have enjoyed some of the posts. Especially the possibility of a > display backlight. I have thought many times that it was possible to > place 4 T-1 high brightness white (or green) LEDs to light the display > which could be controlled by a micro slide switch in the case. I also thought about LEDs. But my investigations showed that for an LED backlight to work well, you need something which guides the light coming form the sides as evenly as possible up through the LCD. Normally, a layer of laser-treated glass or plexiglass is used for that, but it is thick, and would not fit inside the LX LCD. I don't think it's enough to simply mount some LEDs on the sides of the display glass. The middle of the screen would stay relatively dark, while the edges would be very bright. And may backglight is even easier to install than such tiny LEDs. BTW: The backlight kit will also contain a small SMD slide switch, which can be used instead of the CPU signal, so if someone prefers either to switch the backlight manually instead of using the software driver, or if someone doesn't dare to lift that CPU pin, which is necessary for software control, he can use the switch instead. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:48:56 -0400 Reply-To: LEONG Ka Tai Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LEONG Ka Tai Subject: Re: text editor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi Meshar wrote: > > Actually, that is exactly what I was using and forgot. I would clip an > email in POST/LX which ran in a SW carousel workarea that had no Sysmgr = in > it, then jumped over to a Sysmgr workarea where there was an open = database > and pasted the email in a note field of a database. As you observed, PE = and > Clipvue use the same clipboard. I use Clipvue because I work mostly in pure DOS. But I remember Andreas once said that PE copies to memory and not to file. I just did a test. I opened clipvue.txt in PE and noted its content, jumped to another file and copied some selected text, jumped back to clipvue.txt. There was no change to clipvue.txt. Do you have to set up pe.cfg in a special way to get PE to work with Clipvue? I am using PE 2.1. Ka Tai ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:14:39 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Clipvue (was: Re: text editor) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Leong 01h21m ago LEONG Ka Tai wrote: > I just did a test. I opened clipvue.txt in PE and noted its > content, jumped to another file and copied some selected text, > jumped back to clipvue.txt. There was no change to clipvue.txt. > > Do you have to set up pe.cfg in a special way to get PE to work > with Clipvue? > > I am using PE 2.1. ..and that's the problem. PE is clipvue compatible only from version 2.3 (or even 2.2? Don't know, I use 2.3 and that one works). PE 2.3 clips to c:\_dat\clipvue.txt, as does Clipvue itself and Post/LX, too, if you put the line ClipFile=c:\_dat\clipvue.txt into the [System] section of post.cfg. That way exchanging data between all the often-used programs is easy, and even copying data fomr the above into other programs is not too difficult: Simply "open file" in other programs and open "c:\_dat\clipvue.txt". GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:17:17 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Clipvue (was: Re: text editor) In-Reply-To: <200210131714.g9DHEA423509@mail2.uits.uconn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed And LATEST PE is available on D&A website. I believe SUPER refers to our site. If not, I cannot guarantee what version you get. Daniel, does SUPER use links to the D&A programs? At 10/13/02-12:14 PM, you wrote: >Hi Leong > >01h21m ago LEONG Ka Tai wrote: > > > I just did a test. I opened clipvue.txt in PE and noted its > > content, jumped to another file and copied some selected text, > > jumped back to clipvue.txt. There was no change to clipvue.txt. > > > > Do you have to set up pe.cfg in a special way to get PE to work > > with Clipvue? > > > > I am using PE 2.1. > >..and that's the problem. >PE is clipvue compatible only from version 2.3 (or even 2.2? Don't >know, I use 2.3 and that one works). > >PE 2.3 clips to c:\_dat\clipvue.txt, as does Clipvue itself and >Post/LX, too, if you put the line > >ClipFile=c:\_dat\clipvue.txt > >into the [System] section of post.cfg. >That way exchanging data between all the often-used programs is easy, >and even copying data fomr the above into other programs is not too >difficult: Simply "open file" in other programs and open >"c:\_dat\clipvue.txt". > >GTX >daniel > >-- >http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact >http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:09:13 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: Swap shop - PLEASE READ In-Reply-To: <200210131023.g9DAN7426493@mail2.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, > I think this is the best way to do it. I just put something together: www.nygmytech.de/swapshop.html > However, I don't know if it would really work out well, because the > parts needed most often are always the same ones. But why > not try it? You know that there already is something similar at Thomas Rundel's homepage (www.rundel.net/palmtop/usedstuf.htm)? > Mail me privately - I'll gladly support you with htaccess > if you want. I found out that it's not my fault. My "ISP" has some kind of a "dummy-mode" put up for every account. So nobody goofs up his .htaccess. As soon as I made them believe that I know what I'm doing, there'll be a password... regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:01:05 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Clipvue (was: Re: text editor) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Avi 01h40m ago Avi Meshar wrote: > And LATEST PE is available on D&A website. I believe SUPER refers to our > site. If not, I cannot guarantee what version you get. Daniel, does SUPER > use links to the D&A programs? . Yes, all SUPER links to D&A software refer to the download list at www.dasoft.com, so you get always the latest versions of D&A software if using SUPER. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 01:34:18 +0200 Reply-To: Zoran Vignjevic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Zoran Vignjevic Subject: 200LX + ME45 FOR TELNET, WITHOUT GPRS? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can I use 200LX with Siemens ME45 to connect to my linux mail server with fixed phone dial-up connection, but without GPRS? TIA Zoran Vignjevic ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:09:01 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Clipvue (was: Re: text editor) In-Reply-To: <200210132000.g9DK0bf32683@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10/13/02-03:01 PM, Daniel Hertrich, Exalted Maintainer of SUPER, wrote: > > Daniel, does SUPER use links to the D&A programs? > >Yes, all SUPER links to D&A software refer to the download list at >www.dasoft.com, so you get always the latest versions of D&A software >if using SUPER. > >GTX >daniel Excellent. (I think I knew the answer will be that, just wanted to make sure other people saw that too! Thank you, Daniel! avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:13:20 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: Swap shop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Since any modification to the palmtop risks it's destruction, >a serious problem is best handled (for most users) by the >experts at Thaddeus.. discounting "for most users" this sounds like ol Thad has exclusive skills/rights to operating on the insides of LXs. my main unit is presently being repaired in the Nederlands/Holland. If i had sent it to Thad i would have been hit not only by his bill, but by French/European import tax. The alternative would have been Rundell in Germany. ... but i know of >6! list members who can operate on LX insides, and who will charge far less than Hal&co. Dr Nat :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:12:50 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Numlock tip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i am using Nulock.com loaded to prevent wear of direction keys and to make pg+dn only 1 keystroke. i had to turn it off and on when wanting to type numbers, but just found a way around it.. typing shift+number key inserts the number without unloading numlock.com from memory ... anyone knows a work-around for the apostrophe and q-mark ?!? (btw. the "?!?" was created by quick-lx) cheers, (amities - Dr Nat :) ps. btw. i am getting rejections from the HPLX-List server for messages containing a virus with my former 'wanadoo' address on it. someone on this list has tps-seti@wanadoo.fr in their address book and is infected with the klez or bugbear ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:48:34 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Numlock tip In-Reply-To: <004601c27330$277b1f40$da5b933e@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Interesting! Yesterday someone spoofed my old email address (no longer active!) and while apparently no virus was in the attachment, it really was disturbing to see such an ugly spoof. BTW, I use Eudora, and the address book in it DOES not have tps-seti. Must be another admirer , Doc ... Someone is playing with the list and viruses. I'd like it that if found, the person will be THROWN OUT of the list permanently, no questions asked, no second chances given. Avi At 10/13/02-10:12 PM, you wrote: >ps. btw. i am getting rejections from the HPLX-List server for messages >containing a virus with my former 'wanadoo' address on it. >someone on this list has tps-seti@wanadoo.fr in their address book and is >infected with the klez or bugbear > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:37:55 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Numlock tip In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021013224439.024f0ec0@mail.alwaysafe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Avi Meshar wrote: > Someone is playing with the list and viruses. I'd like it that if > found, the person will be THROWN OUT of the list permanently, no > questions asked, no second chances given. For whatever it's worth, I have gotten several "Rejected posting to HPLX-L" messages from listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu, and those forged postings (which were infected with the Klez virus) were coming from davidlee34@attbi.com. Each time I was notified, I sent a message to davidlee34@attbi.com informing him that his system is apparently infected with the Klez virus, but he has not yet responded. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:59:11 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: Swap shop - PLEASE READ In-Reply-To: <200210131023.g9DAN7426493@mail2.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, just a small correction: It's www.nygmatech.de/swapshop.html Sorry for the typo and thanks to Daniel for finding it - so there is at least one interested listmember ;-) regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:50:39 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Numlock tip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AFAIK, klez spoofs the origin of the mail. It takes a random adress from the adressbook and uses that as the originating adress. So, it could be anyone with davidlee34@attbi.com AND the hplx list adress in his / hers adress book. AND he or she must be using outlook... Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Butler" To: Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:37 AM Subject: Re: Numlock tip > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Avi Meshar wrote: > > > Someone is playing with the list and viruses. I'd like it that if > > found, the person will be THROWN OUT of the list permanently, no > > questions asked, no second chances given. > > For whatever it's worth, I have gotten several "Rejected posting to > HPLX-L" messages from listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu, and those forged > postings (which were infected with the Klez virus) were coming from > davidlee34@attbi.com. Each time I was notified, I sent a message to > davidlee34@attbi.com informing him that his system is apparently infected > with the Klez virus, but he has not yet responded. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:51:05 +0800 Reply-To: Jorgen Wallgren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Outlook <=> HP 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, I have installed Curtis Cameron's MS Outlook to HP LX Converter 3.03 and looks like it works great- except for converting an appointment to my 200LX, since the Location of the meeting is left out. I just get an empty field in my 200LX appointment book. But when I open the file, using PE, I can see that the Location is in there- but must then be mapped wrongly...? If I convert an appointment from 200LX to MS Outlook- everything works = fine. Anyone seen this problem? If it works fine for you- which OS and which version of Outlook are you using? I have tried to get in contact with Curtis for some time now, but without success. How can he be reached? Without knowing the Location for the meeting, this setup is kind of useless to me. And since it's a great program, I would like to get it going... :-) Thanks and Regards, Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:58:05 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Numlock tip In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit -- 05h05m ago Ian Butler wrote: > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Avi Meshar wrote: > > > Someone is playing with the list and viruses. I'd like it that if > > found, the person will be THROWN OUT of the list permanently, no > > questions asked, no second chances given. > > For whatever it's worth, I have gotten several "Rejected posting to > HPLX-L" messages from listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu, and those forged > postings (which were infected with the Klez virus) were coming from > davidlee34@attbi.com. Each time I was notified, I sent a message to > davidlee34@attbi.com informing him that his system is apparently infected > with the Klez virus, but he has not yet responded. I think it may indeed have something to do with attbi.com as the one spoofing sponsor@ftel had this in the first received header: Received: from Eblz ([12.232.168.47]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (I don't know whether that was the original smtp server or not though) Looking thru a couple of messages I saw three folk here using rwcrmhc51.attbi.com - Bob N,Patrick W and Barry, but I doubt those guys have klez. The smtp server used should narrow it down? Wouldn't you know it you had it ? Does it leave a copy of the message in an outbox? -- -Tony http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for: POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:05:16 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Numlock tip Comments: To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021013224439.024f0ec0@mail.alwaysafe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Someone is playing with the list and viruses. I'd like it that if found, >>the person will be THROWN OUT of the list permanently, no questions asked, >>no second chances given. your too kind Avi how about we draw and quarter the guilty party instead? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:48:57 -0700 Reply-To: joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Buford Subject: EVLN(diesel HEVs will go on sale within about a year) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Looks like we have a virus circulating thru the HPLX listserv. Got this with Bruce's name and an obviously bogus IP. First Avi then Bruce-Have the no shame!!!!! :-) Any chance of tracing this? Joe ---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on 10/14/2002 06:45 AM --------------------------- Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter on 10/13/2002 02:47:41 PM To: cc: Subject: EVLN(diesel HEVs will go on sale within about a year) [Filename: flag_eagle_header_sm.jpg.scr, Content-Type: audio/x-midi] The content of this attachment has been stripped. Attachments of this file type are not allowed to enter the Boeing email system. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:57:33 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Numlock tip In-Reply-To: <008801c2735e$c79424d0$060210ac@tommy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII nOn Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Niels wrote: > AFAIK, klez spoofs the origin of the mail. It takes a random adress > from the adressbook and uses that as the originating adress. So, it > could be anyone with davidlee34@attbi.com AND the hplx list adress in > his / hers adress book. AND he or she must be using outlook... Sorry, I was not clear enough. The forged From: field was not davidlee34@attbi.com, the From: field had *MY* e-mail address in it. This is why the "Rejected posting" messages came "back" to me. I determined that the real infected sender was davidlee34@attbi.com by examining the Return-Path and Received header lines. davidlee34@attbi.com is the actual infected user's e-mail address. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:58:28 -0400 Reply-To: Jack Skelley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jack Skelley Organization: New Jersey Devils Hockey Club Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX...more info... Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel: That was the first thing I checked after it *was working* for a time. I know from being around electronics for the past 30 years that *things* don't break, fix themselves then break again. So I am looking for that intermittent contact with the kbd white connector and the motherboard. It has to be it. No, the residue was not the graphite layer. It was the residue from the seltzer water (I'm sure). Cleaned the boards with a dry cloth. No solvent was used because I have seen the graphite layer dissolve. What is odd is that when power is supplied to the LX it is automatically turns on without pressing the ON button. Also...If I hold down ON and plug in the power the LX does not initialize. But then the ON button will not turn the LX on. Unplug the power and re-plug it in and the unit inits. So my assumption is the keyboard is working... Ok on the backlight. Lifting a pin on the CPU could be tricky. A soldering iron with no voltage potential on the tip would be required (this is why I use an adjustable butane powered iron for these things) and low enough temp as to not disturb the multiple layers below the surface. I usually leave these things alone. When I have to lift a pin I have been successful with cutting with a micro tip xacto knife. I have had some success with installing LEDs to light up liquid crystal panels. I paint the LEDs black except for the tip then position them so they are mounted on the edge of the glass. The display doesn't have to be 100% backlit. Only enough to see what is on the display in dim light. Of course, anything would be better than what is there now . If you have any other ideas about my LX issues I would love to hear them. Thanks. Jack Skelley skelley@newjerseydevils.com Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Jack > > 1 day 14h43m ago Jack Skelley wrote: > > > So now the question is.......what is making the 200LX intermittent??? > > I checked the keyboard connection area again and all appears ok. > > Make sure the two keyboard case halves are pressing the contacts > together strong enough. There are two plastic pins on the left and on > the right of the keyboard contacts in one shell half, and two fitting > holes in the other half. This mechanism establishes the pressure needed > for te keyboard contacts to work reliably. > > If this seems to be okay, clean all keyboard contacts on the > motherboard and on the white keyboard contact foil, but be sure not > to clean away the black contact layer!! (Maybe this is what you > thought was a residue? If you wipe it out too much, the contacts > cannot work anymore. It is some sort of thin graphite layer. It's the > same stuff as inside the bubbles of the transparent keyboard bubble > foil.) > > > BTW, I have enjoyed some of the posts. Especially the possibility of a > > display backlight. I have thought many times that it was possible to > > place 4 T-1 high brightness white (or green) LEDs to light the display > > which could be controlled by a micro slide switch in the case. > > I also thought about LEDs. But my investigations showed that for an LED > backlight to work well, you need something which guides the light > coming form the sides as evenly as possible up through the LCD. > Normally, a layer of laser-treated glass or plexiglass is used for > that, but it is thick, and would not fit inside the LX LCD. I don't > think it's enough to simply mount some LEDs on the sides of the display > glass. The middle of the screen would stay relatively dark, while the > edges would be very bright. > > And may backglight is even easier to install than such tiny LEDs. > > BTW: The backlight kit will also contain a small SMD slide switch, > which can be used instead of the CPU signal, so if someone prefers > either to switch the backlight manually instead of using the software > driver, or if someone doesn't dare to lift that CPU pin, which is > necessary for software control, he can use the switch instead. > > GTX > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:29:41 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: SUPER update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mon, 14.10.02 8:26 PM +0200 Hi friends, a new update of the SUPER archive at http://www.palmtop.net. Now the latest version of all the T2T drivers are available (thanks to Mack!). Check the "New additions" page. Changelog: 14-OKT-02 T2TDRV added (Times2Tech drivers) SCRUBERS added ACADLXR2 added, ACAD-LX removed GDBLOAD updated BGFAX homepage URL updated CCLXPOP sourcecode URL (Sourceforge) added VOLKOV commander items modified (homepage and path links) VOLKOV commander 5 added 123G updated to v1.77b 123GGG removed 123G177B added (English) 123GF19 added (French) 123GFF19 added (French) 123GG18 added (German) 123GGG18 added (German) 123GSS19 added (Spanish) 123G175 added (japanese) 123G175J added (Japanese) -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:26:12 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Numlock tip In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi Larry: I'll hold the sharpening tools for you! At 10/14/02-08:05 AM, "Larry Tachna" wrote: > >>Someone is playing with the list and viruses. I'd like it that if found, > >>the person will be THROWN OUT of the list permanently, no questions asked, > >>no second chances given. > >your too kind Avi how about we draw and quarter the guilty party instead? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:30:10 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: EVLN(diesel HEVs will go on sale within about a year) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Joe, In a way the two other messages detailing an apparent bug that roams here is a relief for me. I really did not want to be the one to cause anyone damages. Of course, it is only a minor relief until Larry finishes quartering and drawing that jerk! The worst part is that the email they used for me has not been in service in months! The account has been closed for a long time! Avi At 10/14/02-08:48 AM, joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM wrote: >Looks like we have a virus circulating thru the HPLX listserv. > >Got this with Bruce's name and an obviously bogus IP. [...snip...] ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:05:58 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Virtual Keyboards? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed This is what we have waited for, I think. Canesta Inc has a device that "sees" around the computer it is attached to and interprets whatever motions objects around it make and act on them. The company's blablabla says: "Electronic Perception Technology Electronic perception technology permits machines, consumer and electronic devices, or virtually any other class of modern product to perceive and react to objects and individuals in the nearby environment in real time, particularly through the medium of "sight," utilizing low- cost, high-performance, embedded sensors and software. What sets electronic perception technology apart from classical "computer vision" applications, is that for the first time, actionable information can be developed in real time by observation of the nearby environment utilizing an ultra-low-cost sensor technology that is a size comparable to that found in nature. And as portable... The goal of electronic perception technology is to make it possible for devices or applications of any complexity, from "lightweight" appliances, PDAs, cell phones, or games, to heavyweight vehicle control, airport security, or national security-class applications, to be able to perceive objects and features in the nearby environment such that identification and action are practical and possible. Canesta has taken a leadership role in defining and implementing practical electronic perception technology with the development of low-cost, semiconductor-based image sensor chip technology and powerful embedded image processing software. Canesta's technology provides actionable perceptions or identifications to third-party applications that permit these applications embedding Canesta's technology to react in a manner appropriate to their function." This is not today available at CDW or the like, but the technology is beginning to take shape. http://www.canesta.com/index.htm Enjoy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:26:09 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: OT: Spam Outlook solution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Following the SPAM thread -- for those of you on Outlook in an Exchange environment, I really recommend www.cloudmark.com, SPAMNET. Been using it for 3 months. It's free and keeps getting better. It puts what it thinks is SPAM into a folder that you can check out at your leisure. If you get spam in your inbox, you can click the block icon. It sends the spam to your spam folder and alerts cloudmark. Similarly you can unblock. Cloudmark uses user feedback to update their engine. Hal at Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:48:43 -0400 Reply-To: LEONG Ka Tai Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LEONG Ka Tai Subject: Re: Clipvue (was: Re: text editor) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Daniel & Avi, Thanks for the info, I shall upgrade my PE. Ka Tai ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 07:08:35 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX...more info... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jack 14h54m ago Jack Skelley wrote: > seltzer water (I'm sure). Cleaned the boards with a dry cloth. No solvent > was used because I have seen the graphite layer dissolve. What is odd is > that when power is supplied to the LX it is automatically turns on without > pressing the ON button. Also...If I hold down ON and plug in the power the > LX does not initialize. But then the ON button will not turn the LX on. > Unplug the power and re-plug it in and the unit inits. So my assumption is > the keyboard is working... Have you tried the keyboard test? Well, this can only be done of course if you are able to switch the unit off and on again somehow. If it's off, keep Esc pressed, then press On, this will enter the hardware test mode. There is a keyboard test. It wants you to press all keys from left to right and top to bottom and beeps for every key it detects. After you hit three times a wrong key, it complains and quits the test. If all went well, it says "keyboard OK". > Ok on the backlight. Lifting a pin on the CPU could be tricky. A soldering > iron with no voltage potential on the tip would be required (this is why I > use an adjustable butane powered iron for these things) and low enough temp > as to not disturb the multiple layers below the surface. I usually leave > these things alone. When I have to lift a pin I have been successful with > cutting with a micro tip xacto knife. Well, I didn't do it with so much care, used no potential "killer" (although my soldering equipment allows that), and the CPU still works well. :-) But you are right, it's better to take care. I will mention that in the installation sheet I'm working on currently. And for those who don't want to lift pins, there is still the SMD switch included in the kit. ;-) > I have had some success with installing LEDs to light up liquid crystal > panels. Such large LCDs like the one of the LX? I really suspect light diffusion is too bad here, so the middle of the screen is not bright enough and the borders are annoying bright. > I paint the LEDs black except for the tip then position them so they > are mounted on the edge of the glass. The display doesn't have to be 100% > backlit. Only enough to see what is on the display in dim light. Of course, > anything would be better than what is there now . LEDs would have another advantage: There are bright white ones, which make a light which is more convenient for the eyes than the greenish light of the EL foil. But I'm lucky I found a way to install the EL foil relatively well, and I surely won't investigate in other solutions anymore. MY time doesn't allow this. Unfortunately. Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 07:33:08 +0200 Reply-To: Vagner Martin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Vagner Martin Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX...more info... Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Daniel Abvout lifting CPU pin: It is NOT necessary to lift ANY pin on the CPU. I have a backlighted = unit and i just solder the wire on the pin without removing/lifting it = from the PCB=20 and it works correctly :-]=20 Martin -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Hertrich [mailto:daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:09 AM To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX...more info... Hi Jack 14h54m ago Jack Skelley wrote: > seltzer water (I'm sure). Cleaned the boards with a dry cloth. No = solvent > was used because I have seen the graphite layer dissolve. What is odd = is > that when power is supplied to the LX it is automatically turns on = without > pressing the ON button. Also...If I hold down ON and plug in the power = the > LX does not initialize. But then the ON button will not turn the LX = on. > Unplug the power and re-plug it in and the unit inits. So my = assumption is > the keyboard is working... Have you tried the keyboard test? Well, this can only be done of course if you are able to switch the unit off and on again somehow. If it's off, keep Esc pressed, then press On, this will enter the hardware test mode. There is a keyboard test. It wants you to press all keys from left to right and top to bottom and beeps for every key it detects. After you hit three times a wrong key, it complains and quits the test. If all went well, it says "keyboard OK". > Ok on the backlight. Lifting a pin on the CPU could be tricky. A = soldering > iron with no voltage potential on the tip would be required (this is = why I > use an adjustable butane powered iron for these things) and low enough = temp > as to not disturb the multiple layers below the surface. I usually = leave > these things alone. When I have to lift a pin I have been successful = with > cutting with a micro tip xacto knife. Well, I didn't do it with so much care, used no potential "killer" (although my soldering equipment allows that), and the CPU still works well. :-) But you are right, it's better to take care. I will mention that in the installation sheet I'm working on currently. And for those who don't want to lift pins, there is still the SMD switch included in the kit. ;-) > I have had some success with installing LEDs to light up liquid = crystal > panels. Such large LCDs like the one of the LX? I really suspect light diffusion is too bad here, so the middle of the screen is not bright enough and the borders are annoying bright. > I paint the LEDs black except for the tip then position them so they > are mounted on the edge of the glass. The display doesn't have to be = 100% > backlit. Only enough to see what is on the display in dim light. Of = course, > anything would be better than what is there now . LEDs would have another advantage: There are bright white ones, which make a light which is more convenient for the eyes than the greenish light of the EL foil. But I'm lucky I found a way to install the EL foil relatively well, and I surely won't investigate in other solutions anymore. MY time doesn't allow this. Unfortunately. Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:11:23 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX...more info... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Vagner Martin wrote: > Abvout lifting CPU pin: > It is NOT necessary to lift ANY pin on the CPU. I have a backlighted > unit and i just solder the wire on the pin without removing/lifting it > from the PCB and it works correctly :-] Seconded -- my unit never had a CPU pin lifted, and neither did any of the other units that John Musielewicz and David Sargeant did, AFAIK. The wires are just soldered on to the pins as-is. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 07:55:39 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Virtual Keyboards? Comments: To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avi Meshar" To: Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:05 PM Subject: Virtual Keyboards? > Canesta Inc has a device that "sees" around the computer it is attached to > and interprets whatever motions objects around it make and act on them. I ain't going for it. i will not have my computer gossiping to other computers around the internet. I will not tolerate the entire internet laughing at me when I pick my nose. Consider the privacy implications. You'll have to turn the computer off when you and your spouse make love. I'll bet this is sponsored by the Viagra people. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:19:03 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Virtual Keyboards? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Virtual Keyboards? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Avi Meshar" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:05 PM > Subject: Virtual Keyboards? > > > > Canesta Inc has a device that "sees" around the computer it is > attached to > > and interprets whatever motions objects around it make and act on > them. > > I ain't going for it. i will not have my computer gossiping to > other computers around the internet. I will not tolerate the > entire internet laughing at me when I pick my nose. > > Consider the privacy implications. You'll have to turn the > computer off when you and your spouse make love. I'll bet this is > sponsored by the Viagra people. > > Barry > maybe check the site and read about the keyboard. the keyboard won't bother you picking your nose or making love ;) (well, I think it won't bother...) the keyboard think is quite handy, it projects a full-size keyboard on your desk and you can type on it. The movie they show seems to be pretty fake, imho. But it might be true, if my memory is with me, siemens also has developed such a virual keyboard. Niels ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 07:50:19 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Virtual Keyboards? In-Reply-To: <001901c2744a$3e1412a0$c60d22d1@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Barry, At 10/15/02-07:55 AM, Barry wrote: > > Canesta Inc has a device that "sees" around the computer it is >attached to > > and interprets whatever motions objects around it make and act on >them. > >I ain't going for it. i will not have my computer gossiping to >other computers around the internet. I will not tolerate the >entire internet laughing at me when I pick my nose. If it fosters more judicious behaviour on your part, then it is goodness, no? >Consider the privacy implications. You'll have to turn the >computer off when you and your spouse make love. I'll bet this is >sponsored by the Viagra people. I have nothing to do with this company, but, the point you raise makes me think - a combination of webcam, viagra, internet - what a formula for a pornography site! Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:38:53 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: /* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tue, 15.10.02 10:21 AM +0200 Playing with numlock, I just made an interesting observation: The "command" /* at the DOS prompt triggers an MS-DOS version information. Is this a bug or a feature? ;-) And are there other such "commands" which do something interesting? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:38:51 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX...more info... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Ian and Martin 01h55m ago Ian Butler wrote: > Seconded -- my unit never had a CPU pin lifted, and neither did any of the > other units that John Musielewicz and David Sargeant did, AFAIK. The > wires are just soldered on to the pins as-is. I haven't tried to do that yet, because the risk of connecting two legs irreversably is high, I think. But I will add that option to the instruction sheet. Thanks! GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:38:52 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Numlock tip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Nathalie 1 day 05h02m ago Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > numbers, but just found a way around it.. typing shift+number key inserts > the number without unloading numlock.com from memory > ... anyone knows a work-around for the apostrophe and q-mark ?!? No, but I found a strange think when playing with the keys under numlock: When numlock is LOADED, but DEACTIVATED, it is not possible to enter the double-questionmarks, underscore and percent sign, i.e. shift doesnt have any effect on *, - and +. The other keys seem to work OK. eh - just tried it once more, and now it works. I hvae numlock in autoexec.bat, so it is loaded for every SC session and activated / deactivated for each session seperately. Stefan? Another interesting thing I came across accidentally is described in my next mail. GTX dnaiel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 06:49:52 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX...more info... In-Reply-To: <200210151338.g9FDcKf10536@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > I haven't tried to do that yet, because the risk of connecting two > legs irreversably is high, I think. But I will add that option to the > instruction sheet. Thanks! The risk is there -- the pins are very small and close together, after all. But with a decently sharp soldering iron tip, it's actually quite simple -- you coat the tip of the wire with a thin layer of solder, set the wire down on the pin and touch the top of the wire briefly, and it bonds to the pin nicely. Of course, if you leave too much solder on the wire tip, you risk shorting out nearby pins. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 09:49:24 -0400 Reply-To: Jack Skelley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jack Skelley Organization: New Jersey Devils Hockey Club Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX...more info... Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel: Test mode doesn't work. Every once in a while when the unit is running its init and I press on/off the unit shuts off. But then it will not turn on again. This is every once in a long while. There is no consistency or pattern I can see or detect. What makes me nuts is the fact that I got through the init form once complete with owner data and brought up the program manager. I checked the pressure on the keyboard contacts and all appears ok. When I hold down on and plug in the ac adapter the unit does not init. I'm afraid it's time to place the box in the sock drawer and see if I can find another that is not too pricey... Thanks for your help. Regards, Jack Skelley skelley@newjerseydevils.com Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Jack > > 14h54m ago Jack Skelley wrote: > > > seltzer water (I'm sure). Cleaned the boards with a dry cloth. No solvent > > was used because I have seen the graphite layer dissolve. What is odd is > > that when power is supplied to the LX it is automatically turns on without > > pressing the ON button. Also...If I hold down ON and plug in the power the > > LX does not initialize. But then the ON button will not turn the LX on. > > Unplug the power and re-plug it in and the unit inits. So my assumption is > > the keyboard is working... > > Have you tried the keyboard test? Well, this can only be done of course > if you are able to switch the unit off and on again somehow. If it's > off, keep Esc pressed, then press On, this will enter the hardware > test mode. There is a keyboard test. It wants you to press all keys > from left to right and top to bottom and beeps for every key it > detects. After you hit three times a wrong key, it complains and quits > the test. If all went well, it says "keyboard OK". > > > Ok on the backlight. Lifting a pin on the CPU could be tricky. A soldering > > iron with no voltage potential on the tip would be required (this is why I > > use an adjustable butane powered iron for these things) and low enough temp > > as to not disturb the multiple layers below the surface. I usually leave > > these things alone. When I have to lift a pin I have been successful with > > cutting with a micro tip xacto knife. > > Well, I didn't do it with so much care, used no potential "killer" > (although my soldering equipment allows that), and the CPU still works > well. :-) But you are right, it's better to take care. I will mention > that in the installation sheet I'm working on currently. > > And for those who don't want to lift pins, there is still the SMD > switch included in the kit. ;-) > > > I have had some success with installing LEDs to light up liquid crystal > > panels. > > Such large LCDs like the one of the LX? I really suspect light > diffusion is too bad here, so the middle of the screen is not bright > enough and the borders are annoying bright. > > > I paint the LEDs black except for the tip then position them so they > > are mounted on the edge of the glass. The display doesn't have to be 100% > > backlit. Only enough to see what is on the display in dim light. Of course, > > anything would be better than what is there now . > > LEDs would have another advantage: There are bright white ones, which > make a light which is more convenient for the eyes than the greenish > light of the EL foil. But I'm lucky I found a way to install the EL > foil relatively well, and I surely won't investigate in other solutions > anymore. MY time doesn't allow this. Unfortunately. > > Thanks > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:10:55 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Subject: Re: virus, could it be me? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a theory, and it's not a theory that I like. The thing that caught my eye was the text: "Subject: EVLN(diesel HEVs will go on sale within about a year)". This is a posting from the electric vehicles list which I subscribe to. I had not saved this item as text but it might have been sitting in my in box. Then when Avi and Dr. Nat said that old addresses had been spoofed I remembered that I have been saving useful posts from this list in a text file. I found tps-seti@wanadoo in that file but not davidlee34@attbi.com. So I went through the text file and replaced @ with (a*t) which should prevent anything from finding those addresses. I believe that some viruses will scan text files for addresses but I don't know if they would pull text out of a Netscape mail folder. Next I updated Norton AntiVirus 2001 and scanned the computer. Nothing came up. I'm beginning to have my doubts about NAV since just this morning I got an attachment from leeahart@cws.net.au (another EV lister!) with an attachment "trustemp.dc.exe". So I scanned my Netscape Users folder and it reported nothing. Is this normal, would I have to execute the attachment before the AV scan would pick it up? Anyway unless someone else here also subscribes to the EV list I would seem to be the most likely source.... Any tips on files I can check for to see if I am infected? I am running Win98 Lite with Windows Scripting Host turned off and I don't have outlook installed. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 09:49:28 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Virtual Keyboards? Comments: To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avi Meshar" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:50 AM Subject: Re: Virtual Keyboards? > Barry, > > At 10/15/02-07:55 AM, Barry wrote: > > > Canesta Inc has a device that "sees" around the computer it is > >attached to > > > and interprets whatever motions objects around it make and act on > >them. > > > >I ain't going for it. i will not have my computer gossiping to > >other computers around the internet. I will not tolerate the > >entire internet laughing at me when I pick my nose. > > If it fosters more judicious behaviour on your part, then it is goodness, > no? > > >Consider the privacy implications. You'll have to turn the > >computer off when you and your spouse make love. I'll bet this is > >sponsored by the Viagra people. > > I have nothing to do with this company, but, the point you raise makes me > think - a combination of webcam, viagra, internet - what a formula for a > pornography site! Funny how you say it makes me more judicious and it makes you think of a porn site. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 09:58:34 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: virus, could it be me? Comments: To: Andrew MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:10 AM Subject: Re: virus, could it be me? > I'm beginning to have my doubts about NAV since just this morning I got > an attachment from leeahart@cws.net.au (another EV lister!) with an > attachment "trustemp.dc.exe". > So I scanned my Netscape Users folder and it reported nothing. > Is this normal, would I have to execute the attachment before the AV > scan would pick it up? > Anyway unless someone else here also subscribes to the EV list I would > seem to be the most likely source.... > Any tips on files I can check for to see if I am infected? > I am running Win98 Lite with Windows Scripting Host turned off and I > don't have outlook installed. A possibitity that occurs to me is that someone put the virus executable into a self extracting and executing zip, or rar or some other compressor that creates self extracting archives. That would leave it as an exe but it might not be recognizable by NAV. A way to test this is to try to open the file with Winzip. Don't execute it. Just see if Winzip can open it. Better yet, use Power Archiver, since it can recognize nearly all the formats of all the archivers. You can download the trial version of this to test it. I'm not sure if any of these can open an executable compressed by pklite or lzexe. So you might try de-compressing it with those. I'm not sure if there are any other executable compressors around. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 09:09:49 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: virus, could it be me? In-Reply-To: <3DAC2FFF.6B7C3231@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10/15/02-10:10 AM, Andrew wrote: >I have a theory, and it's not a theory that I like. >The thing that caught my eye was the text: >"Subject: EVLN(diesel HEVs will go on sale within about a year)". >This is a posting from the electric vehicles list which I subscribe to. >I had not saved this item as text but it might have been sitting in my >in box. >Then when Avi and Dr. Nat said that old addresses had been spoofed I >remembered that I have been saving useful posts from this list in a text >file. >I found tps-seti@wanadoo in that file but not davidlee34@attbi.com. What about "sponsor a*t ftel.net"? This is the OLD email address I used to post on the list. >I believe that some viruses will scan text files for addresses but I >don't know if they would pull text out of a Netscape mail folder. Good question. >Next I updated Norton AntiVirus 2001 and scanned the computer. Nothing >came up. Is the update dated after October or so? I think this is when they got serious about cleaning that virus out. >Anyway unless someone else here also subscribes to the EV list I would >seem to be the most likely source.... Maybe. >I am running Win98 Lite with Windows Scripting Host turned off and I >don't have outlook installed. What is Win98 lite? Good luck in te cleanup! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:44:41 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: /* Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" > Tue, 15.10.02 10:21 AM +0200 > > Playing with numlock, I just made an interesting observation: > The "command" > /* > at the DOS prompt triggers an MS-DOS version information. Is this a bug > or a feature? ;-) And are there other such "commands" which do > something interesting? > > GTX > daniel ************************************** Daniel et al, I just shelled out to DOS with the CTRL-123 combination. After running the /* combination I was unable return to System Manager either from typing "exit" or trying to run "200" again. No error messages, just a failure to respond to my command. I am able to switch to a different Software Carousel session though. I had to reboot to get System Manager to run again. If I completely exit System Manager by "more", "apps", "terminate all", I can run the "/*" combination and then type 200 to successfully return to System Manager. Can someone give me an explanation of this behavior. It's got me puzzled. Thanks, bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:55:46 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX...more info... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jack, 04h ago Jack Skelley wrote: > Test mode doesn't work. > Every once in a while when the unit is running its init and I press on/off the > unit shuts off. But then it will not turn on again. This is every once in a long > while. There is no consistency or pattern I can see or detect. > What makes me nuts is the fact that I got through the init form once complete > with owner data and brought up the program manager. > I checked the pressure on the keyboard contacts and all appears ok. > When I hold down on and plug in the ac adapter the unit does not init. > I'm afraid it's time to place the box in the sock drawer and see if I can find > another that is not too pricey... Strange. What I would try before I gave up on this machine, is to put it into an oven at about 40 degree Celsus, not more, for some hours. Then put it into a tight box with lots of silica gel, which should suck every single molecule of water which _can_ be sucked form outside, and then try again. The above would even work more efficient if you disasseble the machine and treat the single parts as above, maybe leaving out the screen, only dry the keyboard and the mainboard... If it is still water causing such problems, it should be eliminated then. Good luck daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:56:24 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX...more info... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ian Butler wrote: > you coat the tip of the wire with a thin layer of solder, set > the wire down on the pin and touch the top of the wire briefly, > and it bonds to the pin nicely. Of course, if you leave too > much solder on the wire tip, you risk shorting out nearby pins. What I always do in spite of it being anathema to electronicians is use a smear of soldering grease. It raises the surface tensionf of the clean unoxidized solder and draws it back from between the pads and pins. Of course with sensitive units like these I use plenty of spray can wash afterwords. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:57:07 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: /* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > The "command" /* at the DOS prompt triggers an MS-DOS > version information. Is this a bug No it doesn't - it's far weirder than that. I just tried it out and what it does do seems to be to load a second overlay of DOS. To get back ti the start screen I had to enter "exit" twice. Anything sensible one might use that for? Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:00:51 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: /* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Axel, 06m ago Axel Berger wrote: > No it doesn't - it's far weirder than that. I just tried it out and what > it does do seems to be to load a second overlay of DOS. To get back ti YES! Really! > the start screen I had to enter "exit" twice. Anything sensible one > might use that for? Mysterious! After executing /*, mem /c shows Conventional Memory : Name Size in Decimal Size in Hex ------------- --------------------- ------------- MSDOS 111696 (109.1K) 1B450 * 2816 ( 2.8K) B00 DOSED 3392 ( 3.3K) D40 FREE 96 ( 0.1K) 60 FREE 533168 (520.7K) 822B0 Total FREE : 533264 (520.8K) Total bytes available to programs : 533264 (520.8K) Largest executable program size : 532992 (520.5K) 7340032 bytes total EMS memory 442368 bytes free EMS memory What's this 2816 bytes "*" program??? doesn't seem to be a complete command.com... GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:24:58 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: /* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bob, it seems like it starts a new shell type exit and you will return to the shell you were in before then type exit again to return to the system manager anyway, when I'm into a dos session, and I did /*, I still can return to the sysmgr by pressing any of the blue keys (or other hotkeys). this is how it goes on my 700lx Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Penick" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:44 PM Subject: Re: /* > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Hertrich" > > Tue, 15.10.02 10:21 AM +0200 > > > > Playing with numlock, I just made an interesting observation: > > The "command" > > /* > > at the DOS prompt triggers an MS-DOS version information. Is this a bug > > or a feature? ;-) And are there other such "commands" which do > > something interesting? > > > > GTX > > daniel > ************************************** > Daniel et al, > I just shelled out to DOS with the CTRL-123 combination. After running the > /* combination I was unable return to System Manager either from > typing "exit" or trying to run "200" again. No error messages, just a > failure to respond to my command. I am able to switch to a different > Software Carousel session though. I had to reboot to get System Manager to > run again. > If I completely exit System Manager by "more", "apps", "terminate all", I > can run the "/*" combination and then type 200 to successfully return to > System Manager. > Can someone give me an explanation of this behavior. It's got me puzzled. > Thanks, > bob > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:40:15 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: /* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit oh my previous post is not really right I see now... this is really wEiRd ;) I start finding an ordinary dos box now.... :) on my win98 box (boot to dos) it didn't work i however remember an old dos bootdisk somewhere... too bad... it had rested too long and is corrupted I DO have images of older dosversions but i first got to find me an image writer ;) you'll hear from me... ow btw there is also that /con/con exploit (you could put that in an url and if someone clicked it, the computer crashed (provided it runs dos somehow, so win9x was affected)..this was a bug, where /* seems to be a feature ;) more info on the con/con thing here: http://www.virushelp.org/html/con_con_test_page.html i was not able to repoduce it, probably because my win98 box is running the second edtion which may contain the fix privided on the page. It also won't work on your dear palmtop. Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: Re: /* > Hi Axel, > > 06m ago Axel Berger wrote: > > > No it doesn't - it's far weirder than that. I just tried it out and what > > it does do seems to be to load a second overlay of DOS. To get back ti > > YES! Really! > > > the start screen I had to enter "exit" twice. Anything sensible one > > might use that for? > > Mysterious! After executing /*, mem /c shows > > > Conventional Memory : > > Name Size in Decimal Size in Hex > ------------- --------------------- ------------- > MSDOS 111696 (109.1K) 1B450 > * 2816 ( 2.8K) B00 > DOSED 3392 ( 3.3K) D40 > FREE 96 ( 0.1K) 60 > FREE 533168 (520.7K) 822B0 > > Total FREE : 533264 (520.8K) > > Total bytes available to programs : 533264 (520.8K) > Largest executable program size : 532992 (520.5K) > > 7340032 bytes total EMS memory > 442368 bytes free EMS memory > > > What's this 2816 bytes "*" program??? doesn't seem to be a complete > command.com... > > GTX > daniel > > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:44:08 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: /* Comments: To: Niels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niels" Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: /* > bob, > > it seems like it starts a new shell > type exit and you will return to the shell you were in before > then type exit again to return to the system manager > > anyway, when I'm into a dos session, and I did /*, I still can return to the > sysmgr by pressing any of the blue keys (or other hotkeys). > > this is how it goes on my 700lx > > Niels ************************************************** Thanks Niels, I figured this out after Axel posted what he had to do to return to system manager. I believe that when I first tried this I executed the /* several times before I tried getting back to system manager. I didn't type "exit" enough times to finally clear things up. To test, I just shelled out to DOS and executed the /* 5 times and then had to type "exit" 6 times to get system manager to come up again. Thanks and sorry for posting before I had tried enough options. bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:17:25 -0400 Reply-To: Jack Skelley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jack Skelley Organization: New Jersey Devils Hockey Club Subject: Re: Water Logged 200LX...more info... Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel: The box is bone dry... I've had it apart and there is no liquid remaining. I even though there could be some water under some of the chips causing a short of some kind but there doesn't appear to be any. But I did hold a hair dyer on the board on very low heat for some time and still no luck. Thanks for the suggestion... Regards, Jack Skelley skelley@newjerseydevils.com Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Jack, > > 04h ago Jack Skelley wrote: > > > Test mode doesn't work. > > Every once in a while when the unit is running its init and I press on/off the > > unit shuts off. But then it will not turn on again. This is every once in a long > > while. There is no consistency or pattern I can see or detect. > > What makes me nuts is the fact that I got through the init form once complete > > with owner data and brought up the program manager. > > I checked the pressure on the keyboard contacts and all appears ok. > > When I hold down on and plug in the ac adapter the unit does not init. > > I'm afraid it's time to place the box in the sock drawer and see if I can find > > another that is not too pricey... > > Strange. > What I would try before I gave up on this machine, is to put it into an > oven at about 40 degree Celsus, not more, for some hours. > Then put it into a tight box with lots of silica gel, which should suck > every single molecule of water which _can_ be sucked form outside, and > then try again. > The above would even work more efficient if you disasseble the machine > and treat the single parts as above, maybe leaving out the screen, only > dry the keyboard and the mainboard... > > If it is still water causing such problems, it should be eliminated > then. > > Good luck > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:32:34 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Virus posts to HPLX-L MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just got another "Rejected posting to HPLX-L" message. Here is the complete header text, in case anybody is getting similar messages and this can help track down the infected user. From LISTSERV@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Tue Oct 15 14:14:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu (uconnvm.uconn.edu [137.99.26.3]) by hplx.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g9F7ZEgq013830 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:35:26 -0700 Message-Id: <200210150735.g9F7ZEgq013830@hplx.net> Received: by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 310) via spool with SMTP id 3013 ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:33:41 EDT Received: from UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UCONNVM) by UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 1680; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:33:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:33:41 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at U. of Connecticut (1.8d)" Subject: Rejected posting to HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU To: Ian Butler Your message cannot be distributed to the HPLX-L list because it exceeds the maximum message size of 140 lines. This limit has been set by the list owner and does not necessarily apply to the other lists hosted at UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU. If you have any question, please contact the list owner, who can be reached at HPLX-L-request@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU. ------------------------ Rejected message (544 lines) ------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UCONNVM (NJE origin SMTP4@UCONNVM) by UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 1678; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:33:40 -0400 Received: from mail2.uits.uconn.edu [137.99.25.204] by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 310) via TCP with SMTP ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:33:35 EDT Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by mail2.uits.uconn.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9F7Yb428713 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:34:37 -0400 Received: from Qoj ([12.232.168.47]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021015073427.KIDI17158.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@Qoj> for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 07:34:27 +0000 From: ian To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: {VIRUS?} A very funny website MIME-Version: 1.0 content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="C3724yJXXX4" Message-Id: <20021015073427.KIDI17158.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@Qoj> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 07:34:31 +0000 X-MailScanner: Found to be infected ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:46:18 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Swap shop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello oliver i'm all for it too ! a few comments : 1. its impractical to have the parts move to a physical location at one place. so this virtual shop is the right solution 2. i feel that reality is not 'swapping' only. i need a place where i can buy/sell/exchange/ donate/loan/borrow .. a place which is more of a focal point like the metal/commodities/oil/ stock/money exchanges .. maybe an LxX(change) 3. i have a lot of items which i can offer/swap.. and would be very happy if i can do it online at the website .. place the details there without going thru the circuitous route of emailing to webmaster 4. a small commission for the webmaster is right .. keeps him happy .. as all things 'free' are never appreciated by people .. like church, air, water, sunshine, moonlight, love, faith, intellect .. we recognize only when it gets a nobel prize ! ..pk (daniel and oliver's efforts are 'free' and i hereby salute their good efforts and intentions ! anyone else 'CARE' to record their concurrence ?) ----- Original Message ----- From: Oliver W. Leibenguth To: Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Swap shop - PLEASE READ > Hi, > > just a small correction: > It's www.nygmatech.de/swapshop.html > Sorry for the typo and thanks to Daniel for finding it - so there is > at least one interested listmember ;-) > > regards, > Oliver > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 00:22:03 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Subject: Re: virus, could it be me? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: Re: virus, could it be me? > Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 09:09:49 -0500 > From: Avi Meshar > > What about "sponsor a*t ftel.net"? This is the OLD email address I used > to post on the list. Yes that address is in the text file. > >Next I updated Norton AntiVirus 2001 and scanned the computer. Nothing > >came up. > > Is the update dated after October or so? I think this is when they got > serious about cleaning that virus out. > I didn't check the update date, just downloaded it from the Symatec site and installed it. I'm going to be traveling 10/16 to 10/20 so whatever it is will have to make do with a sporadic modem connection till then. When I get back I'll repeat the update/scan and report back. > > >I am running Win98 Lite with Windows Scripting Host turned off and I > >don't have outlook installed. > > What is Win98 lite? > Win98 Lite is a custom installer that gives you much more control over what parts of Windows you install. For instance you can have the OS without the browser (in spite of what MS claims). Check out for details. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:27:09 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: /* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Niels 11h30m ago Niels wrote: > i however remember an old dos bootdisk somewhere... > too bad... it had rested too long and is corrupted > I DO have images of older dosversions but i first got to find me an image > writer ;) http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/bootdisks there is also an image writer. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:27:10 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: 200LX + ME45 FOR TELNET, WITHOUT GPRS? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Zoran 2 days 06h39m ago Zoran Vignjevic wrote: > Can I use 200LX with Siemens ME45 to connect to my linux mail server > with fixed phone dial-up connection, but without GPRS? Yes, of course. If the ME45 has an IR port (don't know right now), you can use WWW/LX to use the IrDA port, otherwise you need a data cable and can use any software. http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx provides details. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 12:54:08 +0000 Reply-To: stefan.peichl@GENION.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@GENION.DE Subject: Re: Numlock tip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Hertrich wrote: > eh - just tried it once more, and now it works. I hvae numlock in > autoexec.bat, so it is loaded for every SC session and activated / > deactivated for each session seperately. if you load NUMLOCK before SC, you only have the program running once, and deactivating it in any SC session means deactivation for every SC session. > When numlock is LOADED... > ... shift doesnt have any effect on *, - and +. that's true, because NUMLOCK not only replaces the number keys with cursor keys but emulates the grey AT keypad. I did it that way to enable programs for the palmtop written with an AT keyboard in mind. Which mapping NUMLOCK does is written in the technical part of NUMLOCK.DOC, but I know, its always hard to read the docs ;-) Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:45:05 -0400 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Mysterious! After executing /*, mem /c shows > > > Conventional Memory : > > Name Size in Decimal Size in Hex > ------------- --------------------- ------------- > MSDOS 111696 (109.1K) 1B450 > * 2816 ( 2.8K) B00 > DOSED 3392 ( 3.3K) D40 > FREE 96 ( 0.1K) 60 > FREE 533168 (520.7K) 822B0 > > Total FREE : 533264 (520.8K) > > Total bytes available to programs : 533264 (520.8K) > Largest executable program size : 532992 (520.5K) > > 7340032 bytes total EMS memory > 442368 bytes free EMS memory > > > What's this 2816 bytes "*" program??? doesn't seem to be a complete > command.com... > It seems that "/*" is an alias for "command". Execute one after the other, then run "mem /c". You'll see that both "*" and "command" weigh 2816 bytes. Does this alias exist in other versions of DOS? What other DOS command aliases exist? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 09:53:35 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: /* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain The Compaq MS-DOS 5.0 in my LTE/Lite 25 laptop does not have it. Gives a "Bad command or file name" error. -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Martin [mailto:Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:45 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: /* It seems that "/*" is an alias for "command". Execute one after the other, then run "mem /c". You'll see that both "*" and "command" weigh 2816 bytes. Does this alias exist in other versions of DOS? What other DOS command aliases exist? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 09:57:31 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: /* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain My 95LX (Dos 3.22) does have /* as an alias. Maybe it's just an HPLX thing. -----Original Message----- From: Feldman, Robert Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:54 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: /* The Compaq MS-DOS 5.0 in my LTE/Lite 25 laptop does not have it. Gives a "Bad command or file name" error. -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Martin [mailto:Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:45 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: /* It seems that "/*" is an alias for "command". Execute one after the other, then run "mem /c". You'll see that both "*" and "command" weigh 2816 bytes. Does this alias exist in other versions of DOS? What other DOS command aliases exist? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:35:07 -0700 Reply-To: fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank McConnell Subject: Re: /* In-Reply-To: Niels's message of "Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:40:15 +0200" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Niels wrote: > i however remember an old dos bootdisk somewhere... /* results in "Bad command or file name" for IBM DOS 5.0 and MS-DOS 6.22. -Frank McConnell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:04:38 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Text convertion question - regular expression MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all the suggestions and help. A very kind person (Tom Salwasser) volunteered to write a small program to take care of the original problem (which I have). He is currently working on ascii outlines conversions between MindManager (MindMap) for Windows, Bonsai for Palm, Grandview for DOS, and MinMapLX. This will eventually include conversion of notes as well! It is a work in progress, stay tuned. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:14:37 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: /* In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Bruce Martin wrote: > It seems that "/*" is an alias for "command". > > Execute one after the other, then run "mem /c". You'll see that both "*" > and "command" weigh 2816 bytes. Also, both "/* /?" and "command /?" give the same output. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:55:54 +0200 Reply-To: Nan-shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-shan Chen Subject: OT: You are killing me with /* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit People, you are killing me me with this /* !!! Sorry. I really cannot not resist, but this is the true feeling in me. :) You are playing all the time some 7-accord on the list and never resolve it. I'm begging the very last one in this thread to put a "*/" in the subject line!!! You know, I program from time to time in the language called C. For one day or two many years ago, I almost got crazy because my program did not compile and I did not understand at all what the compiler was telling me what's wrong .... The whole day, or more, ... until I put my C codes into a syntax-highlighted editor and found out that my comment was not closed. The line looked like this: /************************************ / and the following big fragment of my codes all became comments! So, please forgive me for my /*-fobia. :) Ok, I'll look into the thread to see what's going on. This made me curious ... Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:04:38 +0200 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Subject: Re: Swap shop In-Reply-To: <008f01c274c2$65a22dc0$b301000a@q20> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 1. its impractical to have the parts move to > a physical location at one place. so this > virtual shop is the right solution That's what I thought... > 2. [...] maybe an LxX(change) Hey, that sounds much better than "swap shop" ;-) > 3. i have a lot of items which i can offer/swap.. > and would be very happy if i can do it online > at the website .. place the details there without > going thru the circuitous route of emailing to > webmaster There's no input form yet and there is (and will be) no database behind it; it's just plain html. I can, howewer can set up a form that sends the inputs as eMail to me. Convenient to use for you, not much work for me. > (daniel and oliver's efforts are 'free' and > i hereby salute their good efforts and intentions I doubt that I will ever be able to contribute that much time, efforts, ideas and whatever else than Daniel so stop saluting me ;-)) regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:34:43 -0500 Reply-To: Tim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: "Vanishing Lines" in converted spreadsheet? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Please forgive a repeat question (I promise to put the answer on a sticky-note on my monitor, since I ask this about once every two years ... at least we know the shelf-life of my "wet-ware" RAM ). When I take a spreadsheet from the LX and open it in Excel, all the cell borders dissappear. I'd like them to reappear. I've done "format" "borders" (tab) and added borders to them all, but those print. How do I just get them back on the screen in their (default for Excel) non-printable form? TIA for any help! --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:39:22 +1300 Reply-To: Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Cheap 200LXs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just a thought for those of you looking to upgrade your LX: I've noticed that 1MB models go for almost nothing on ebay lately. One in very nice order went for $62 a couple of days ago, and there is one for sale now that has only reached $63 with a day to go. Sure, they aren't much good as they stand, but if you are thinking of getting your LX upgraded by Thaddeus, but can't live without it for the time they take, buying a cheap 1MB and sending that to them might be a nice option. I'd do it myself but most of the sellers aren't able to cope with sending anything outside the US. Cheers...Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:18:38 -0700 Reply-To: Larry Mittell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Mittell Subject: Re: "Vanishing Lines" in converted spreadsheet? Comments: To: Tim In-Reply-To: <001101c27553$79af4460$6501a8c0@gadgetbase> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed In Excel 97, here's what you do. It may or may not be the same in later versions of Excel. To get non-printing grid lines, click on "Options" in the "Tools" menu, click the "View" tab, then check "Gridlines" under "Window options." Incidentally, you can force printing of these grid lines by checking the appropriate option in the "Page Setup" dialog box. HTH, Larry Mittell At 01:34 PM 10/16/2002, Tim wrote: >Hi all, > >Please forgive a repeat question (I promise to put the answer on a >sticky-note on my monitor, since I ask this about once every two years ... >at least we know the shelf-life of my "wet-ware" RAM ). > >When I take a spreadsheet from the LX and open it in Excel, all the cell >borders dissappear. I'd like them to reappear. > >I've done "format" "borders" (tab) and added borders to them all, but those >print. How do I just get them back on the screen in their (default for >Excel) non-printable form? > >TIA for any help! > >--tim > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 17:12:17 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs Comments: To: Roger Whitmarsh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I never found that much difference in the usefulness of my 1 meg and my 2 meg units. I guess if you don't have a flash card there'd be a pretty big difference. And I guess a lot depends on what you do with them. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Whitmarsh" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:39 PM Subject: Cheap 200LXs > Just a thought for those of you looking to upgrade your LX: > I've noticed that 1MB models go for almost nothing on ebay lately. > One in very nice order went for $62 a couple of days ago, and there > is one for sale now that has only reached $63 with a day to go. > Sure, they aren't much good as they stand, but if you are thinking of > getting your LX upgraded by Thaddeus, but can't live without it for the > time they take, buying a cheap 1MB and sending that to them might > be a nice option. I'd do it myself but most of the sellers aren't able to > cope with sending anything outside the US. > > Cheers...Roger > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:14:35 +1300 Reply-To: Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Barry wrote: >I never found that much difference in the usefulness of my 1 meg >and my 2 meg units. I guess if you don't have a flash card there'd >be a pretty big difference. And I guess a lot depends on what you >do with them. True, the only time I found my original 2MB wanting was when I wanted to use Goin' Postal. GP had to be on the C disk so I could use my PCMCIA modem. That meant removing most of what I had on C. I guess GP might not even fit on the C disk of a 1MB. Cheers, Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:52:27 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: OT: You are killing me with /* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Rudi 10h44m ago Nan-shan Chen wrote: > People, you are killing me me with this /* !!! I'm very sorry, I surely didn't intend to kill someone with this thread. ;-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:52:29 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Numlock tip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan 17h48m ago stefan.peichl@GENION.DE wrote: > if you load NUMLOCK before SC, you only have the program > running once, and deactivating it in any SC session means > deactivation for every SC session. Yes, you are right of course. And that was probably the reason why I thought it doesn't behave consistentially. I switched it off in another session and thought it shoud be on in the original one. :-) > that's true, because NUMLOCK not only replaces the number keys > with cursor keys but emulates the grey AT keypad. I did it that > way to enable programs for the palmtop written with an > AT keyboard in mind. Ah, okay. Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:52:30 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Swap shop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Pradeep 1 day 03h30m ago pksharma wrote: > right .. keeps him happy .. as all things 'free' > are > never appreciated by people .. like church, air, > water, sunshine, moonlight, love, faith, intellect > .. > we recognize only when it gets a nobel prize ! ...or when it vanishes. So many free services simply vanish some day and then you have to move either to a commercial service or have to look for another (worse) free one. :-( Thanks for your thoughts. daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:38:31 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: OT : Things nice and free .. lost and THEN only appreciated ! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Hertrich Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 12:22 PM > Hi Pradeep now ... how in the world did you get my real name ? ;-D > > .. as all things 'free' are never appreciated ... > > we recognize only when it gets a nobel prize ! > > ...or when it vanishes. YEP ! that's when we miss them and appreciate them ! like mother teresa and her love for all and every. > So many free services simply vanish some day linux snowballing amazes me .. gotta study it to get THAT magic reason for its survival. > and then you have to move either to a commercial service commerce is just a lot of figures and juggling of figures .. currency/money was supposed to be only a measure to replace barter system .. a rather poor measure .. and doesn't work either .. my god ! .. look at how everything falls apart with the slightest of disturbance.. 9/11 spiralled us economy deep into trouble .. bali tragedy has destroyed bali economy ! the only economies which still stand are those which are not economies in the first place .. > or have to look for another (worse) free one. :-( yeah .. that too is true ! :-(( > > Thanks for your thoughts. thanks for your kind comments .. acidic ones are the rule .. normally ! ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:30:06 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: /* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bruce Martin wrote: > It seems that "/*" is an alias for "command". ... > Does this alias exist in other versions of DOS? What other DOS command > aliases exist? It doesn't exist in IBM PC DOS 5.0 running on my desktop. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:17:31 -0500 Reply-To: Tim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Re: "Vanishing Lines" in converted spreadsheet? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021016151732.03121028@pop1.attglobal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry said: ... >To get non-printing grid lines, click on "Options" in the "Tools" menu, >click the "View" tab, then check "Gridlines" under "Window options." Works in Office 2000's version of Excel too. Thanks! -tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:22:47 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Pigford Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Pigford Subject: Accurite travel floppy driver for HP200LX MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_OcjQ+tYVquPBZ+kw9mpB+A)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_OcjQ+tYVquPBZ+kw9mpB+A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Friends, I just obtained an Accurite Travel Floppy 144 drive with is's associated PassportCard PCMCIA card from Surplus Computer Sales (as found earlier by Bob Penick on this list). They were good to business with, but (as they clearly indicated on their ad) the drive did not come with a 120VAC power supply or driver disk. I can get a power supply, but I have not been able to find a driver file to download, even from Accurite's site. Does anyone know where I might obtain the DOS driver for the Accurite Travel Floppy that will work with my HP200LX? Thanks for your help, Bob Pigford --Boundary_(ID_OcjQ+tYVquPBZ+kw9mpB+A) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Friends,
 
I just obtained an Accurite Travel Floppy 144 drive with is's associated PassportCard PCMCIA card from Surplus Computer Sales (as found earlier by Bob Penick on this list).  They were good to business with, but (as they clearly indicated on their ad) the drive did not come with a 120VAC power supply or driver disk.  I can get a power supply, but I have not been able to find a driver file to download, even from Accurite's site.
Does anyone know where I might obtain the DOS driver for the Accurite Travel Floppy that will work with my HP200LX?
 
Thanks for your help,
    Bob Pigford
--Boundary_(ID_OcjQ+tYVquPBZ+kw9mpB+A)-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 23:15:38 +0100 Reply-To: =?Windows-1252?Q?Paulo_Cust=F3dio?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Paulo_Cust=F3dio?= Subject: How to open SecDev volume in Windows 98? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I lost my HP200LX (32M DS) after 5 years of intensive use. It started consuming batteries very fast (a pair of alcalines in one day) and now a group of keys do not respond (Enter is one of them). I went into PalmOS world, but now I have a problem: I cannot read my SECDEV.VOL volume created with SecureDevice 1.4! I have an up-to-date copy from the last backup, that I was using in the HPLX before it died. I tried to install the device driver secdev.sys in config.sys of my Windows98 box, but it says that the secdev.vol file is of an invalid format and cannot be read. I tried to create a bootable floppy with secdev.sys in it, but the result is the same. Do I need to get an old copy of DOS 5 into a floppy to run it? Are there any special attributes that the secdev.vol file has to have? Any help is appreciated! Paulo Custodio ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 07:45:35 +0800 Reply-To: Jorgen Wallgren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Re: Outlook <=> HP 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable None out there using 200LX with MS Outlook? So far not a single reply, and it can't be that none is using curtis program..Or? Jorgen -------------------------- > Hi there, > > I have installed Curtis Cameron's MS Outlook to HP LX Converter 3.03 > and looks like it works great- except for converting an appointment to > my 200LX, since the Location of the meeting is left out. I just get an > empty field in my 200LX appointment book. But when I open the file, > using PE, I can see that the Location is in there- but must then be > mapped wrongly...? > > If I convert an appointment from 200LX to MS Outlook- everything works = fine. > > Anyone seen this problem? If it works fine for you- which OS and which > version of Outlook are you using? > > I have tried to get in contact with Curtis for some time now, but > without success. How can he be reached? > > Without knowing the Location for the meeting, this setup is kind of > useless to me. And since it's a great program, I would like to get it > going... :-) > > Thanks and Regards, > > Jorgen > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:21:40 -0400 Reply-To: bnj@myrealbox.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Accurite travel floppy driver for HP200LX Comments: To: rpigford3@COMCAST.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob, Disconnect the drive from the passport card. Reboot the LX and the passpor= t card will show up as A:. On it you will find an install batch file. (Not quite sure what it is call= ed right now because I'm home and my drive is at work.) I think it looks= similar to hp?????.bat. After you run the install, power off and connect the drive. Reboot and you= should see it (if you have power for it, it should show up as F: or G:).= If you have a 32, 64 or 96 MB drive you will need to copy the lines add= ed to your config.sys to the one on the other drive. If this doesn't make sense, let me know and I'll restate the process in the= morning when I've a fresh and clear mind. Later, bob -----Original Message----- From: Bob Pigford To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu=20 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:22:47 -0400 Subject: Accurite travel floppy driver for HP200LX Friends, I just obtained an Accurite Travel Floppy 144 drive with is's associated Pa= ssportCard PCMCIA card from Surplus Computer Sales (as found earlier by B= ob Penick on this list). They were good to business with, but (as they c= learly indicated on their ad) the drive did not come with a 120VAC power = supply or driver disk. I can get a power supply, but I have not been abl= e to find a driver file to download, even from Accurite's site. Does anyone know where I might obtain the DOS driver for the Accurite Trave= l Floppy that will work with my HP200LX? Thanks for your help, Bob Pigford ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 09:04:41 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: How to open SecDev volume in Windows 98? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Paulo 08h46m ago Paulo Cust=F3dio wrote: > I tried to create a bootable floppy with secdev.sys in it, but the resu= lt is > the same. >=20 > Do I need to get an old copy of DOS 5 into a floppy to run it? > Are there any special attributes that the secdev.vol file has to have? My Secdev file has all the attributes - SHR. GTX daniel --=20 http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:21:27 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Screen flicker on 700lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit no one has any idea nor can report the same problem...? this IS quite scary... [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niels" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:27 PM Subject: Screen flicker on 700lx > Hello y'all > > I was fiddling a bit with datacom on my 700lx and a desktop acting as a > remote server. On the server there is some program installed (winphone) > which handles voice, fax and data calls. As far as I tried the voice and fax > things work nice. But I did not yet figure out how the data system works, so > I dug up my nokia, plugged it into my lx and fired up datacom. > Once datacom started, i did a simple atdt and > called into my desktop. It picked up nicely and told my I was calling an > automated system and that I could send a file (nice! now THAT is handy!). It > asked me to pick a protocol, so I said zmodem. Some weird looking stuff came > back, looked like some config strings. I did file/protocol/zmodem on the LX, > and file/transfer. I picked a random ascii text file from my drive and hit > enter. A dialog came up telling me the LX was trying to send the file. While > it was trying to do so, my screen flickered.... it went darker (altough not > completely dark) and returned to normal quickly. This keeps happening until > i press cancel. Sometimes it's just a little, sometimes the screen becomes > pretty dark. > I don't think it's EMI, for 1) the 700lx is made for datacom with gsm > and 2) i've never seen this before, even during longer sessions. > This is pretty scary, I mean, I don't like it if my precious hp starts > going weird.... Does anyone of you know how this can happen, or what the > problem is? has anyone had the same problem? > > thanks in advance for your comments! > > > Niels > > [n] > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:11:36 +0100 Reply-To: Chris Randle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: How to open SecDev volume in Windows 98? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu] On=20 > Behalf Of Paulo Cust=F3dio > Sent: 17 October 2002 23:16 > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: How to open SecDev volume in Windows 98? >=20 > I went into PalmOS world, but now I have a problem: I cannot=20 > read my SECDEV.VOL volume created with SecureDevice 1.4! I=20 > have an up-to-date copy from the last backup, that I was=20 > using in the HPLX before it died. >=20 > I tried to install the device driver secdev.sys in config.sys=20 > of my Windows98 box, but it says that the secdev.vol file is=20 > of an invalid format and cannot be read. My hazy recollection from when I tried the same is that SECDEV requires the volume to be on a FAT drive - not FAT32. I think I created a separate FAT partition. You may need to boot to proper DOS mode rather than just opening a DOS window - can't remember. I only tried it to see if it worked, but I'm pretty certain I was successful. --=20 Chris Randle (now living in PocketPC world :-o ) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002 =20 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:18:00 +0100 Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Svagr, Radek" Subject: Re: How to open SecDev volume in Windows 98? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It does not need special attributes. I removed them because of backups = and it works. I would try to copy secdev.vol to floppy if it fits. May be it doesn't = like FAT32? Radek > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List On Behalf Of Daniel Hertrich > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 9:05 AM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: How to open SecDev volume in Windows 98? >=20 > Hi Paulo >=20 > 08h46m ago Paulo Cust=F3dio wrote: >=20 > > I tried to create a bootable floppy with secdev.sys in it, but the result is > > the same. > > > > Do I need to get an old copy of DOS 5 into a floppy to run it? > > Are there any special attributes that the secdev.vol file has to = have? >=20 > My Secdev file has all the attributes - SHR. >=20 > GTX > daniel >=20 > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale >=20 > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >=20 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 12:07:48 +0100 Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Svagr, Radek" Subject: how to subscribe digest? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" I was looking for info how to subscribe digest from HPLX-L, but I can't find it. Also there are some options if I remember well. Can anybody "knock" me to a source of this information? Thanks, Radek ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:19:26 +0200 Reply-To: Nan-shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-shan Chen Subject: Re: Screen flicker on 700lx Comments: To: hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET In-Reply-To: <005b01c2767f$5ccda3a0$060210ac@tommy> from Niels at "Oct 18, 2 10:21:27 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, sorry. I cannot even quote ... ;( :( (NB! I seem to be sending to the list AS WELL AS privately to you.) First of all, I have not done the same experiment. Pure speculation and nonsenses follow: Was it a successful file transfer after zmodem? Have you compared the result? You may like to Try a binary file and compare the transfer result. If all is ok. 1. Try to load a TSR which can be used under SysMgr. I suggest Stefan's LxPro [1]. 2. Activate LxPro *during* the file-transfer. 3. See whether the result is broken. I'm suggesting the test for checking if the communication is using polling or is driven by interrupts. Or does anyone knows it? If it should uses polling, the time could be critical, and the file transfer could be disturbed by activating LxPro. Did the programmer of this communication engine reduce the screen refresh rate for frequenting the polling loop ??? I do not even know if the screen-refreshing occupies CPU-time or it is done by hardware? :( Sorry, I don't have the Developer's Guide with me for the time being. In case, somebody confirms that screen-refreshing does occupy the time, the polling loop of the communication needs, and the above experiment (or some others) tells us that the transfer be disturbed by LxPro, then we could come to that, ... my be .... the programer had done a bad job??? Sory, I'm not sure at all. I only try to not leave Niels alone with his problem ... Rudi [1] Ok, seems to me that few people like to load this TSR to memory, perhaps because it is a LITTLE bit larger. But, I've always had it in my memory. Ok, I'm not doing especially memory-intensive jobs on my 200lx. I only compile mit TCC and MASM under DOS. Although I seldom activate LxPro, I just like to have it there with me because the state of art programming of LxPro. NB! LxPro will pop-up in ALL display modes! And this is very programming-intensive. Only those bizzar perfectionists will do this. One is for sure, the very-well-known software vendor will not be willing to do such jobs for their customers. Oh, ...... sorry off topic ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:39:21 +0200 Reply-To: Nan-shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-shan Chen Subject: Re: Screen flicker on 700lx In-Reply-To: <200210181119.NAA29122@getsparc202.uni-paderborn.de> from Nan-shan Chen at "Oct 18, 2 01:19:26 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Oh, sorry. I cannot even quote ... ;( :( > (NB! I seem to be sending to the list AS WELL AS privately to you.) Oh, why I can quote this time ? (NB! I'm replying to the list and the person, myself this time.) > Was it a successful file transfer after zmodem? Have you compared > the result? You may like to Try a binary file and compare the > transfer result. If all is ok. > > 1. Try to load a TSR which can be used under SysMgr. > I suggest Stefan's LxPro [1]. > > 2. Activate LxPro *during* the file-transfer. > 3. See whether the result is broken. AND: use LxPro to check the Hornet register to see if the Frame Rate is changed intentionally. I'm appending some codes to show which register it is: void SetFrameRate(char *float_cp) /* float_cp 1009717040 */ { if ( !f_hp || f_95 ) return; HzInt = afto2l(float_cp, 3, &HzFrac); /* afto2i() -> afto2l() 1010583337 */ if ( HzInt >= 5965L || HzInt < 0L ) HzInt = 5965L; /* 1010583337 */ HzLong = HzInt * 1000L + HzFrac; if ( HzLong < 23300L ) HzLong = 23300L; ilong = 5966000L / HzLong; /* 5966000 = 1193182 / 200 * 1000 */ if ( ilong > 256L ) ilong = 256L; b = (unsigned char) (ilong - 1L); SetHornet(0x22, b); if ( !f_quiet ) PrnFrameRate(); } Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 07:18:35 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Screen flicker on 700lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Might the screen flicker be related to an excessive power consumption? I have a 95LX that gets screen flicker when accessing some (12 volt, IIRC) Flash RAM cards. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Niels [mailto:hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 3:21 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Screen flicker on 700lx no one has any idea nor can report the same problem...? this IS quite scary... [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niels" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:27 PM Subject: Screen flicker on 700lx > and file/transfer. I picked a random ascii text file from my drive and hit > enter. A dialog came up telling me the LX was trying to send the file. While > it was trying to do so, my screen flickered.... it went darker (altough not > completely dark) and returned to normal quickly. This keeps happening until > i press cancel. Sometimes it's just a little, sometimes the screen becomes > pretty dark. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 16:32:52 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: OT : Things nice and free .. lost and THEN only appreciated ! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 1 day 06h20m ago pksharma wrote: > > Hi Pradeep > > now ... how in the world did you get my real name ? ;-D ESP? ;-) > linux snowballing amazes me .. gotta study it to get THAT magic > reason for its survival. I think, where a religion is there is always an anti-religion. There is Microsoft, so there must be something "anti-Microsoft". And Linux is the best candidate for that. In addition, Linux simply is very good for some purposes, as a server OS in every case, and if you do scientific work, much programming, or lots of networking, it is also very good as a workstation OS. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:02:08 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: OT : Things nice and free .. lost and THEN only appreciated ! Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 9:32 AM Subject: Re: OT : Things nice and free .. lost and THEN only appreciated ! > I think, where a religion is there is always an anti-religion. > There is Microsoft, so there must be something "anti-Microsoft". And > Linux is the best candidate for that. I think you're exactly right to use the word "religion". Not to say that linux is a religion. Computing is a religion. Linux is a demonination. When I first started in the late 60's, computing, at least as I was exposed to it, involved a huge beast. There were no terminals. If someone wanted something, they came to us. We were the priests that dealt with the beast and the "laymen" had no access except through us. We took their "prayers", put them into a form that would hopefully please the beast, presented them to the beast and hoped that they would be answered. Nobody took all this very seriously. It was a kind of joke we laughed about. But it kept coming up. I think we might have been a little more serious than we knew. The only real difference today is that now everyone has their own "icons" and their own "access" and the importance of the priests is less obvious. Barry (retired priest) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:23:31 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Accurite travel floppy driver for HP200LX Comments: To: Bob Pigford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI & FWIW Both the Travel Floppy and the Doubleslot cards that Accurite makes (made?) for the LX have the LX and DOS drivers on the PC Card. If you plug them into the LX and then power up, the drivers and install files are available at any time. I believe that there were some small variations in the files included on these cards, with later produced cards having updated files. Additionally, if you have a Doubleslot and its AC adapter, you do not need one for the Travel Floppy. The Doubleslot will power the Travel Floppy through the PCMCIA card. Or, the same adapter can be used for either device when they are used independently. In the same vein, the Trans-Digital parallel port card (that Thaddeus sells) also has the DOS drivers for a ZIP 100 parallel drive and some backup software burned in the ROM. Later, bob (Posted to list with permission of sender) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pigford" > Bob, > > Great info (and a great memory)! I found the files on the PassPort card and > ran the PALMINST.BAT file from DOS. > I also copied the C:\config.sys "added on text" to my config.sys on my F: > drive as I do have a 32meg-DS machine. I do not yet have a powersupply (I > ordered one tonight from Accurite), but accessing the G: drive from Filer > starts some drive activity, then crashes my machine, so I think it will work > when the power supply arrives. I'll report back next week after I have a > power supply. > Many thanks for your great help. > Best regards, > Bob > > === > > Bob, > Disconnect the drive from the passport card. Reboot the LX and the passport > card will show up as A:. > On it you will find an install batch file. (Not quite sure what it is > called right now because I'm home and my drive is at work.) I think it > looks similar to hp?????.bat. > After you run the install, power off and connect the drive. Reboot and you > should see it (if you have power for it, it should show up as F: or G:). If > you have a 32, 64 or 96 MB drive you will need to copy the lines added to > your config.sys to the one on the other drive. > Later, > bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 23:14:11 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: How to open SecDev volume in Windows 98? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 17 Oct 2002 23:15:38 +0100 Paulo Cust=F3dio a =E9crit: > I tried to install the device driver secdev.sys in config.sys of my > Windows98 box, but it says that the secdev.vol file is of an invalid form= at > and cannot be read. Beside, of the FAT32 problem, one other point is that your volume must be in an un-fragmented file.=20 If your volume can be kept in a floppy, store it in a new one (in order to be sur to have only one fragment), and try to access from it. Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 18:32:49 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 17 Oct 2002 at 17:14, Roger Whitmarsh wrote: > Barry wrote: > >I never found that much difference in the usefulness of my 1 meg > >and my 2 meg units. I guess if you don't have a flash card there'd > >be a pretty big difference. And I guess a lot depends on what you > >do with them. > True, the only time I found my original 2MB wanting was when I wanted > to use Goin' Postal. GP had to be on the C disk so I could use my > PCMCIA modem. That meant removing most of what I had on C. > I guess GP might not even fit on the C disk of a 1MB. > Cheers, Roger I used a 1MB 100LX for many years with an external modem. It certainly worked OK, but my 32MB 200LX is more convenient with a PCMCIA modem. And, it would not be practical to use an Ethernet card with the 1MB LX. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 17:55:13 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs Comments: To: Victor Roberts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Roberts" To: Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs > I used a 1MB 100LX for many years with an external modem. It certainly > worked OK, but my 32MB 200LX is more convenient with a PCMCIA modem. > And, it would not be practical to use an Ethernet card with the 1MB LX. I wasn't saying that 1 meg is enough. We know already that no-one will ever need more than 640k. :) Someone said that a 1 meg LX is useless. For some people it probably is. But there are a lot of people that will get a lot of use from a 1 meg unit. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 23:43:06 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: How to open SecDev volume in Windows 98? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacques Belin wrote: > Beside, of the FAT32 problem, one other point is that your volume must > be in an un-fragmented file. > > If your volume can be kept in a floppy, store it in a new one (in order > to be sur to have only one fragment), and try to access from it. It doesn't have to be unfragmented but there is a limit to the number of pieces (50?). Your suggestion to use a freshly formatted diskette is a good one. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 12:18:54 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > Someone said that a 1 meg LX is useless. For some people it > probably is. But there are a lot of people that will get a lot of > use from a 1 meg unit. I just looked. My 2MB 700 with 32 MB flashdisk currently has 900 kB free on C:. There are about 40 kB in the mandatory C:\_DAT, 200 kB in \DOS with a lot of utilities most of which could just as well (and do) reside on A: and 220 kB in \GOINPOST. So I could easily free enaugh room in the C: of a 1 MB unit to do a run of going postal and read and write messages with the A: drive reinstalled. The extra MB does save some hassle, but we here seem to be agreed that substituting computing power overkill for sensible and intelligent use is not always best. So yes, in my case 1 MB would do just as well as my 2 MB and I'd hardly notice the difference. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 15:05:50 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Whitmarsh wrote: > I'd do it myself but most of the sellers aren't able to > cope with sending anything outside the US. Just an addendum: Although most US sellers routinely put the "only inside US" into their offer, most of them are quite willing to send to Europe if asked nicely before bidding. I have had several things come to me that way, but the extra postage was quite substantial, so this route is only sensible for stuff not to be found this side. The usual problems of trust also become bigger, though I have only been stung once by a Canadian who either did not send anything in the first place or at least was no help at all when his parcel really did get lost in the post and even refused to answer registered letters. One reason why I so much prefer doing business with trusted people from respectable groups like you all. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 08:21:04 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs Comments: To: Axel Berger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 8:05 AM Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs > The usual problems of trust also become bigger, though I have only been > stung once by a Canadian who either did not send anything in the first > place or at least was no help at all when his parcel really did get lost > in the post and even refused to answer registered letters. > One reason why I so much prefer doing business with trusted people from > respectable groups like you all. I had a different set of problems buying a couple of memory cards for my calculator from a German company. I had problems with one and they sent a replacement, which I also had problems with. They paid the postage coming to me but I paid the postage sending to them. When I had a problem with the third card I decided to blow it off. The postage was already more than the card and I decided not to throw any more money into it. The company making the cards can be said to be at fault for sending so many defective cards, but others have bought from them with no problems. So I suspect it was just a run of bad luck. I initially bought 2 cards and only had problems with one of them and it's replacements. I'm still using the other one years later. So, as I see it, there was really no-one at fault. But it makes me very hesitant to buy anything from "over there". Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 18:29:02 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Barry 03h06m ago Barry wrote: > I had a different set of problems buying a couple of memory cards > for my calculator from a German company. I had problems with one > and they sent a replacement, which I also had problems with. They > paid the postage coming to me but I paid the postage sending to > them. When I had a problem with the third card I decided to blow > it off. The postage was already more than the card and I decided > not to throw any more money into it. Wasn't there a problem with United States Postal Service (USPS) using some detector machines for Anthrax, which destroyed memory cards? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 18:48:50 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs [...] I have only been > stung once by a Canadian who either did not send anything in the first > place or at least was no help at all when his parcel really did get lost > in the post and even refused to answer registered letters. that is quite nasty... :( poor you why would people act like that? Well okay I can figure it out, he now has your money and you have his nothing so he's happy with that. I won't be happy stealing s.o.'s money but maybe I'm just to nice a guy... > One reason why I so much prefer doing business with trusted people from > respectable groups like you all. I feel the same on this, as you (axel) may have guessed... (please reply to your private mail so I can transfer the money) Hungry now, gotta eat... bye, Niels ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 12:43:46 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs > > I had a different set of problems buying a couple of memory cards > > for my calculator from a German company. I had problems with one > > and they sent a replacement, which I also had problems with. They > > paid the postage coming to me but I paid the postage sending to > > them. When I had a problem with the third card I decided to blow > > it off. The postage was already more than the card and I decided > > not to throw any more money into it. > > Wasn't there a problem with United States Postal Service (USPS) using > some detector machines for Anthrax, which destroyed memory cards? That's more recent. I had this problem 4 or 5 years ago. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 19:51:01 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > So, as I see it, there was really no-one at fault. But it makes me > very hesitant to buy anything from "over there". Quite, the premium on postage must be worth it. So things like LXs may well be better bought here even if more expensive. In my case it was 1900 MHz Nokia phones for transatlantic GSM networks, which were only available there and not at all here and some other stuff like that. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 12:41:27 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs In-Reply-To: <3DB1318E.BA78059C@Nexgo.De> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10/19/02-05:18 AM, Axel Berger wrote: >I just looked. My 2MB 700 with 32 MB flashdisk currently has 900 kB free >on C:. There are about 40 kB in the mandatory C:\_DAT, 200 kB in \DOS >with a lot of utilities most of which could just as well (and do) reside >on A: and 220 kB in \GOINPOST. So I could easily free enaugh room in the >C: of a 1 MB unit to do a run of going postal and read and write >messages with the A: drive reinstalled. The extra MB does save some >hassle, but we here seem to be agreed that substituting computing power >overkill for sensible and intelligent use is not always best. >So yes, in my case 1 MB would do just as well as my 2 MB and I'd hardly >notice the difference. Not sure about the conclusion. A 1MB machine has a TOTAL of 1MB memory, of which 640K (a bit less) is allocated to running programs, and 352K or so is allocated to the C: drive. (You can change the boundary, but that will make the memory to run programs in smaller, and constrict programs, possibly creating problems.) You say 40K in C:1_dat, and 220K in Going Postaland some unspecified amount may remain from \DOS. That totals to about 260K plus. And that leaves about 90K or less for messages. So unless you are really good about cleaning up messages and your message-load is not that high, you haven't much room for anything useful. Is that how you see it? All the best, Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 20:14:39 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi Meshar wrote: > And that leaves about 90K or less for messages. So unless > you are really good about cleaning up messages and your > message-load is not that high, you haven't much room for > anything useful. Is that how you see it? Yes, quite. Those 90 kB need only hold all messages to be sent in the next run and all those retrieved at the same time. Instantly after hangup you can reinsert your flash and work there. Due to lack of need I have not worked out the niceties, but it ought to be very possible. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 14:12:32 -0400 Reply-To: Francois Gurin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Francois Gurin Subject: Re: [HPLX] Re: Cheap 200LXs In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021019123354.04a01ec0@mail.alwaysafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > You say 40K in C:1_dat, and 220K in Going Postaland some unspecified amount > may remain from \DOS. That totals to about 260K plus. And that leaves about > 90K or less for messages. So unless you are really good about cleaning up > messages and your message-load is not that high, you haven't much room for > anything useful. Is that how you see it? lxeth + sshdos < 100k, nic in the pcmcia slot, unlimited messages :p also, serial cable to cellphone, datacomm to a machine, ssh from there i know, not exactly how people expect to use there LX. but it works and it leaves space for some light ebook reading. i have a 1mb 200lx with a broken screen i used for over a year as a light dns server with one of the ka9q/jnos apps. --francois ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 20:27:19 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: [HPLX] Re: Cheap 200LXs Comments: To: Francois Gurin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > lxeth + sshdos < 100k, nic in the pcmcia slot, unlimited messages :p > also, serial cable to cellphone, datacomm to a machine, ssh from there a bit off-topic, but do you know a program which I can use to call in to with my hp/cellphone using the datacom program, and then use that program to establish a ssh link to another computer anywhere on the internet? I was planning on building such an app for I couldn't find one but I seriously lack some time here. thanks, Niels ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 14:53:14 -0400 Reply-To: Francois Gurin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Francois Gurin Subject: Re: [HPLX] Re: [HPLX] Re: Cheap 200LXs In-Reply-To: <005001c2779d$2a351d50$060210ac@tommy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 08:27:19PM +0200, Niels wrote: > > lxeth + sshdos < 100k, nic in the pcmcia slot, unlimited messages :p > > also, serial cable to cellphone, datacomm to a machine, ssh from there > > a bit off-topic, but do you know a program which I can use to call in to > with my hp/cellphone using the datacom program, and then use that program to > establish a ssh link to another computer anywhere on the internet? I was > planning on building such an app for I couldn't find one but I seriously > lack some time here. the way I have it setup, i dail into a unix machine directly via the cell with datacomm, then ssh from there. I could alternately run ppp over the cell and runsshdos from the LX, but that's overkill for my needs. you may want to look into getting an isp with dailups and shell access. --francois ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 14:35:24 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs In-Reply-To: <3DB1A10F.297ACA8@Nexgo.De> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10/19/02-01:14 PM, Axel Berger wrote: >Avi Meshar wrote: > > And that leaves about 90K or less for messages. So unless > > you are really good about cleaning up messages and your > > message-load is not that high, you haven't much room for > > anything useful. Is that how you see it? > >Yes, quite. Those 90 kB need only hold all messages to be sent in the >next run and all those retrieved at the same time. Not so fast! If you send 90K of messages, you cannot receive any because I assume PG does not delete them after sending them out. I know I am nitpicking. My point is to make sure that people see that it is REALLY hard to make the 1MB useful with email. You really need more room to make it practical. > Instantly after >hangup you can reinsert your flash and work there. Due to lack of need I >have not worked out the niceties, but it ought to be very possible. Possible but not really practical. It really should be noted that to make these devices practical you need more space. However, if you use an external modem (not PCMCIA) then you can put in a PCMCIA for storage and presumably a decent program that can use the PCMCIA storage for the messages. avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 21:59:13 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi Meshar wrote: > Not so fast! If you send 90K of messages, Have you ever written and sent anything near 90 kB in one go? At 73 letters per line and our limit of 140 lines, this is at least 9 messages, with our normal actual length many more. And looking more closely at least 35 kB more can be trimmed off the GOINPOST directory. I never said the 1 MB was ample, but workable, yes. In the case of the 700 this is especially so. If you use the docked phone the flash can stay put. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 15:22:32 -0500 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs In-Reply-To: <3DB1B991.EFF0D86D@Nexgo.De> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10/19/02-02:59 PM, Axel Berger wrote: >Avi Meshar wrote: > > Not so fast! If you send 90K of messages, > >Have you ever written and sent anything near 90 kB in one go? At 73 >letters per line and our limit of 140 lines, this is at least 9 >messages, with our normal actual length many more. And looking more >closely at least 35 kB more can be trimmed off the GOINPOST directory. I >never said the 1 MB was ample, but workable, yes. >In the case of the 700 this is especially so. If you use the docked >phone the flash can stay put. yeah, sure I give you this - you are RIGHT! Happier? But now let's talk about real life and about the real world! All this byte-shaving here and there is pure horse manure, really. The main point, the important point to make to someone who is looking for the experience you may have, is that yeah, you can do it, but don't bother, it is not that practical. If it is already so important that you carry the smallest package to do email, than put a few more EUs or $$$ or whatever currency you want to use and make your life easy and practical. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 22:44:13 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: [HPLX] Re: [HPLX] Re: Cheap 200LXs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francois Gurin" To: Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [HPLX] Re: [HPLX] Re: Cheap 200LXs > On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 08:27:19PM +0200, Niels wrote: > > > lxeth + sshdos < 100k, nic in the pcmcia slot, unlimited messages :p > > > also, serial cable to cellphone, datacomm to a machine, ssh from there > > > > a bit off-topic, but do you know a program which I can use to call in to > > with my hp/cellphone using the datacom program, and then use that program to > > establish a ssh link to another computer anywhere on the internet? I was > > planning on building such an app for I couldn't find one but I seriously > > lack some time here. > > the way I have it setup, i dail into a unix machine directly via the cell > with datacomm, then ssh from there. uh-oh linux it scares me ;) but... I still have an ancient p100 doing nothing so how about making it usefull? yeah! > I could alternately run ppp over the > cell and runsshdos from the LX, but that's overkill for my needs. indeed, that's the only solution for me at the moment and too much hassle, I think. > > you may want to look into getting an isp with dailups and shell access. Something I allready started to do. Cannot find one. Long ago, there was. I used that service, before I got real internet at home. The good thing was, it was free! Can you imagine...totally free, such a cool service! Another good thing is, at the moment, they offer their services for less then E2 a month. But the bad thing is, they only do PPP now... They still offer their shell access, over SSH, and that's what I wanted to build that program for... Niels ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 13:02:47 +0200 Reply-To: Michel Bel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michel Bel Subject: FS: 3 times 200LX with 448MB flashcard, and other sundries etc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello listmembers, Due to several non-reactions ( and very little time for refurbishing anymore - new job) I still have the following available for sale ( or barter - seen bottom): 3 each of: 200LX with good screen and keyboard, 1 or 2MB ( first come first serve) , unused manuals, 448MB Silicontech SLATFL448 PCMCIA flash ( yes, about half a gig, half filled with LX sw.). Well glued hingecrack, decent battery cover, but guaranteed complete. 280 Euro / 290 USD including worldwide insured shipping. Paypal or direct bank transfer or cash. Collected at my home (South of the Netherlands) they come (a lot) cheaper, and with extra's 3 each: Original 200LX Connectivity kit: 3 diskettes plus manual - no cable or adapters. USD 35 including shipping. With connectivity cable USD 60. Shipping by padded envelope. Insurance extra. 1 each: Intellilink for Windows 3.41 - 3 diskettes plus manual, Euro/USD 35 including shipping 1 each: Original 100LX connectivity kit - 1 diskette plus manual - make me an offer or convince me of your urgent need . Original 95LX ditto. For you 95LX addicts: 512KB Epson Sram card, 1MB Boeder Sram card, 3 times 2MB Mitsubishi SRAM card, 2MB Mitsubishi EEprom card ( tested to work in 95LX). Decent offer. Adapter from 200LX to 95LX ( black thingy) - 1 picture postcard each ( stamped and sent separately, not three in an envelope ). Worldwide postage paid - they are nowhere cheaper. Definitely last 2: The Elusive Pentax Printer cables ( PocketJet) , known to be working. EUR/USD 25 including shipping in padded envelope worldwide. Requires null-modem and connectivity cable - not included. Lots of loose parts ( loose screws, IR covers, hinge springs, octagonal screen connectors, whatever, . but no complete screens or battery covers.) Inquire. One IR parallel printer interface. One serial to parallel interface. Offer. Note that a Yamaha MU10 or MU15 or QY70 are very definitely acceptable as barter objects. I'd love to convert my DS LX to a portable synthesizer to use during train rides. 200LX prices are firm (relative to a Yamaha trade-in of course) - rest negotiable. (In answer to a question asked recently: I am _not_ giving out names of satisfied buyers, but you can always ask around on the list and get the buyers to volunteer comments). Michel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 19:50:57 +0100 Reply-To: =?Windows-1252?Q?Paulo_Cust=F3dio?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Paulo_Cust=F3dio?= Subject: Re: How to open SecDev volume in Windows 98? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to all answers I got - they put me in the right track, and I was able to get to my information. I was able to access the drive after booting from a DOS 6 floppy with secdev installed. BTW: broken keyboard: Is there any common fault that causes some of the keys to not respond? Paulo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 11:14:23 -0700 Reply-To: Christof Harper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Christof Harper Subject: sundrive on 95LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all- I'm trying to use a sandisk 32meg flash ata card in my 95LX with the sundrv drivers and I'm having some trouble. Possibly unrelated, after leaving the flash card in the 95 overnight, my 2 week old backup battery is reported as low. (the AA batteries are fine)-This could be totally unrelated but seems odd. I've installed the drivers as best I can tell they should be installed. (copied via xmodem, run the install.bat) and when I try and use either the sformat or sdisk commands, I seem to not get anywhere. I've tried various drive letters (not c, of course) and I've done a search for documentation,without finding anything recognizable as a usage or install guide. I'm sure I'm missing something basic..... -Christof (yep, new to this list. I'm an hp progammable nut and a general handheld/portable computing collector) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 11:38:57 -0700 Reply-To: Christof Harper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Christof Harper Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX In-Reply-To: <40330.168.150.242.185.1035137663.squirrel@www.novylen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My trouble seems to be the 95LX! I got the flashdisk working, sort of. When copying files from c: I ended up with a drive fail on C: And now the 2 hour old backup battery is being reported as low. (both batteries measure 2.89 to 2.91 V on my meter) So, something appears ot be going wrong internally..... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:37:54 EDT Reply-To: Dknc@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Firstname Lastname Subject: Mobile Printing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone used SiPix's Pocket printer A6 with the HP200LX? I have not been able to find a DOS driver for it yet. Dan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:01:48 -0700 Reply-To: Christof Harper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Christof Harper Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX In-Reply-To: <001001c27883$dd51f520$d621a8c0@RemoteUser> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I remeber hearing that the 95LX will continue to supply power to the > flash disk even when turned off. You have to remember to remove the > flash card every time you power off the unit. Ahso-- well, in that case, does anyone know if there's any hack to fix this, or how much power is drawn by the flash card (obviously enough to kill a backup battery in 20 minutes!) thx, Christof ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 07:06:07 -0700 Reply-To: jasher@ix.netcom.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Jeffrey W. Asher" Subject: Will Lotus Magellan 2.0 Run on the 200LX In-Reply-To: <40475.168.150.242.185.1035172908.squirrel@www.novylen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I try to load it I get error messages saying insufficient RAM. Thanks, Jeff ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:14:09 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX Comments: To: Christof Harper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christof Harper" To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 11:01 PM Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX > > I remeber hearing that the 95LX will continue to supply power to the > > flash disk even when turned off. You have to remember to remove the > > flash card every time you power off the unit. > > Ahso-- well, in that case, does anyone know if there's any hack to fix > this, or how much power is drawn by the flash card (obviously enough to > kill a backup battery in 20 minutes!) I remember back in the heyday of the 95lx a lot of people used flash cards. I don't recall this problem being mentioned but I didn't get a flash card till I got a 100lx so I might not have noticed. I can't believe it was that big a problem or no-one would have used them. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 08:29:52 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There is a report in the list archives that early CF cards would draw current even when the 95LX was turned "off". My 95LX goes through regular batteries quite fast, again even when turned off, but that condition exists even when I take out my 10MB or 20MB SunDisk card, and is with the main batteries rather than the backup battery. There have been threads about getting low 95LX backup battery warnings that cannot be turned off. I don't think there was a good resolution of those threads, other than to say that someting was wrong internally and the units in question had to be sent for repairs. Just a thought, but you might want to check to make sure that the backup battery contacts are clean. Poor contact with the battery could give you false low readings. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Christof Harper [mailto:koyote@NOVYLEN.NET] Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 1:39 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX My trouble seems to be the 95LX! I got the flashdisk working, sort of. When copying files from c: I ended up with a drive fail on C: And now the 2 hour old backup battery is being reported as low. (both batteries measure 2.89 to 2.91 V on my meter) So, something appears ot be going wrong internally..... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:45:51 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feldman, Robert" To: Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 9:29 AM Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX > There have been threads about getting low 95LX backup battery warnings that > cannot be turned off. I don't think there was a good resolution of those > threads, other than to say that someting was wrong internally and the units > in question had to be sent for repairs. My original 95lx had that problem. It began about 2 years after the warranty was up. I called HP and said I'd heard (on Compuserve) that they still repaired that for free. They wouldn't discuss it. I sent it in. They replaced the motherboard for free. I guess they just didn't want to commit themselves to that. It left me with a nice warm feeling about HP. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:13:10 -0700 Reply-To: Christof Harper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Christof Harper Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX In-Reply-To: <003401c27919$03d306e0$cb0d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> There have been threads about getting low 95LX backup battery > warnings that >> cannot be turned off. > My original 95lx had that problem. So, I guess the questions remaining are whether or not it really affects functionality and whther or not the flash card really is drawing power from the backup battery. I suppose I can measure the latter by leaving everything off for a day or two and metering the batteries. -Christof Koyote Oi!Oi!Oi! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:37:48 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Feldman, Robert" wrote: > but you might want to check to make sure that the backup > battery contacts are clean. Poor contact with the battery > could give you false low readings. Possibly, but I'd say something else must definitely be wrong with the unit: > From: Christof Harper [mailto:koyote@NOVYLEN.NET] > And now the 2 hour old backup battery is being reported as low. > (both batteries measure 2.89 to 2.91 V on my meter) Below three volts is dfinitely low for a Li cell. As far as I know, an LX should never draw draw current from the backup cell as long as any is to be had from the main batteries, so this 95 must be somehow defective. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:00:25 -0700 Reply-To: joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Buford Comments: cc: jimmytan@YEOS.COM.MY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jimmy, I use maxdos to run FSB from an aplication Icon Path looks like: C:\maxdos.com -s -v3u a:\fsb\fsb.exe/mono| This loads maxdos in silent mode, and English text mode. and the mono on the end of the fsb.exe loads in mono mode making it easier to see on the 200lx. Joe >Date:Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:46:33 +0800 >From: "JIMMY TAN" >Subject: Genealogy Program >Hi, >Does anyone know how to change the color settings of Family Scrap Book? >It'shard to make out anything on the LX's mono screen. Any help would be great. >Thanks in advance. >Jimmy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:31:02 -0400 Reply-To: Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: /* I think */ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:38:53 +0200 From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: /* > > Tue, 15.10.02 10:21 AM +0200 > > Playing with numlock, I just made an interesting observation: > > The "command" > > /* > > at the DOS prompt triggers an MS-DOS version information. Is this a bug > or a feature? ;-) And are there other such "commands" which do > something interesting? > > GTX > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > The reason it's running is that Command.com's the first entry in the root directory, which the wildcard expansion's taking care of. The machines which aren't accepting it are ones with something else, maybe non-executable, in the current root. Try creating a directory with some other application as the first file in it, CD to it, and run * from there. Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) OB900b/W2KP, OB4150b/W2KP, OB800/W98, OB800/W95-Mandrake8 - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:47:31 +0200 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: /* I think */ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just cd to my root and do *[enter] gives bad command or filename I already tried this :) [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Barrett" To: Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:31 PM Subject: Re: /* I think */ > ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:38:53 +0200 > From: Daniel Hertrich > Subject: /* > > > > Tue, 15.10.02 10:21 AM +0200 > > > > Playing with numlock, I just made an interesting observation: > > > > The "command" > > > > /* > > > > at the DOS prompt triggers an MS-DOS version information. Is this a bug > > or a feature? ;-) And are there other such "commands" which do > > something interesting? > > > > GTX > > daniel > > > > -- > > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > > > The reason it's running is that Command.com's the first entry in the root > directory, which the wildcard expansion's taking care of. The machines > which aren't accepting it are ones with something else, maybe > non-executable, in the current root. Try creating a directory with some > other application as the first file in it, CD to it, and run * from there. > > Jon > > Jon Barrett > jonzann@altavista.net > Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! > (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) > OB900b/W2KP, OB4150b/W2KP, OB800/W98, OB800/W95-Mandrake8 > - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:48:40 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re cheap LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Someone said that a 1 meg LX is useless. For some people it probably is.. *i am writing this on a 1mb SS 100LX using LE editor with super-large font under XTGOLD in pure DOS. *my C shows 360k free because i deleted _dat (just for fun). everything runs from the 86mb flash in A *advantages are long battery life and no loss of data *the 100LX has been running since May 1993 without a single crash, and i scheduled a birthday party for the event next year :) ... anyone wanna come ?!? (bring a cake) Dr.Nat ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:05:48 +0800 Reply-To: Jorgen Wallgren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: ADB FORMAT EXPERT... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have 2 Appointment Books files. Both with only one appointment (the same one). The files have the same size, but one of the files doesn't show the 'Location' for the meeting (but it's in the file). Anyone familiar with the file format and willing to take a look and figure out what went wrong in Curtis Cameron's Outlook to HPLX conversion? Since I have not got any reply from Curtis for many weeks, I assume we have to create a fix for the resulting file- so the 'Location' shows up in 200LX.... Thanks, Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:55:25 -0400 Reply-To: OMikeEdwardsO@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Edwards Subject: software requested MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello list, It would be really useful if I could get a version of word for my 200lx. I know microsoft published a version but I'm after the latest one. I need the best compatibility and features (tables etc.) I have some interesting stuff to return the favour- mathcad 2.3, harvard graphics 2.3. Thanks, Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:00:31 +0200 Reply-To: Jan Pieter Beekhuis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jan Pieter Beekhuis Subject: Re: Genealogy Program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is also a program called cgahlp.com that can be downloaded here: http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/cgahl130.zip It is configurable with a *.dat file. I am using mono.dat for an applicati= on with very good results. The mono.dat changes the colors to make them pure b/w but you can also make own *.dat files. To load cgahlp I use a *.bat file like this: cgahlp -dmono.dat (no space between d and mono!) your application to load cgahlp -r Hope you have enough memory. Regards, Jean-Pierre >>> original message from Joe Buford <<< > Jimmy, > I use maxdos to run FSB from an aplication Icon > > Path looks like: > > C:\maxdos.com -s -v3u a:\fsb\fsb.exe/mono| > > This loads maxdos in silent mode, and English text mode. and the > mono on the end of the fsb.exe loads in mono mode making it easier to = see on the 200lx. > > Joe > > >Date:Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:46:33 +0800 > >From: "JIMMY TAN" > >Subject: Genealogy Program > > >Hi, > > >Does anyone know how to change the color settings of Family Scrap = Book? > >It'shard to make out anything on the LX's mono screen. Any help would = be great. > > >Thanks in advance. > > >Jimmy. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:46:44 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: software requested In-Reply-To: <48D6480A.7A6B8563.AA1170AA@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Mike Edwards wrote: > Hello list, Hi Mike, > It would be really useful if I could get a version of word for my 200lx. > I know microsoft published a version but I'm after the latest one. I > need the best compatibility and features (tables etc.) I have some > interesting stuff to return the favour- mathcad 2.3, harvard graphics > 2.3. The latest version of Microsoft Word for DOS is the 5.5. Check on Super. I don't know if you can run the Windows version on a 8086. I don't think so. -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:46:42 -0400 Reply-To: Paul Bickford Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Bickford Subject: Source for reasonably priced 100/200lx's? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hey there. I've been happily banging away on my 1mb 95lx for some years now, and I'd like to "upgrade" to a 100 or 200lx. However, all of them that I see on ebay seem to go for outrageous prices (ie: $150.00 and up - that seems outrageous to me when I bought 2 95lx's recently for $40). Is there some place that sells these poor things for more reasonable prices? Alternatively, would anybody like to trade? I have a number of PDA's (EO440, DataRover, PIC1000 and PIC2000, Newton MP100, OMP, etc.) that I might be willing to part with. I even have a spare 95lx (512k) that I keep around "just in case." Thanks for your help, Paul. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:09:25 +0200 Reply-To: Michel Bel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michel Bel Subject: Re: software requested MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re erwann's reply to WinWord 1.1a runs under Windows 3.0. Lemme see: Real mode, 237K free after starting Winword on the LX. Michel > > > It would be really useful if I could get a version of word for > my 200lx. > > I know microsoft published a version but I'm after the latest > one. I > The latest version of Microsoft Word for DOS is the 5.5. Check on > Super. > I don't know if you can run the Windows version on a 8086. I don't > think so. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 15:44:26 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX Comments: To: Christof Harper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, Christof Harper schrieb am 21 Oct 2002 um 9:13: > > So, I guess the questions remaining are whether or not it really affects > functionality and whther or not the flash card really is drawing power > from the backup battery. I suppose I can measure the latter by leaving > everything off for a day or two and metering the batteries. > you can measure it direct if you connect a power supply with Ampere meter direct to the HP. Take out the main battery and watch the power meter. Be careful to choose the right voltage and polarity. cheers, Werner > -- PGP-Key: SMS: <+436646340014@text.mobilkom.at> Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:59:07 -0400 Reply-To: OMikeEdwardsO@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Edwards Subject: Re: software requested Comments: To: Erwann ABALEA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, In light of 5.5 being the most recent dos version of msword, I have managed to find it here: http://www.unm.edu/~docs/Y2000/lastminute.html I laso remembered this site: http://members.cox.net/dos/txted01.htm which is a brilliant dos resource. best, Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:07:45 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: virus, could it be me? Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Barry writes: > A possibitity that occurs to me is that someone put the virus > executable into a self extracting and executing zip, or rar or some > other compressor that creates self extracting archives. That would > leave it as an exe but it might not be recognizable by NAV. NAV knows to scan zip files and remove viruses from them. I had a virus sent to me on my palmtop and opened the file with PNR, saved the email with its attachment. Then when I zipped the file and copied it to my desktop as part of my regular backup, a virus scan caughtr the file and quarantined it. -- ** David Becher ** davidbATnetmedia.net.il davidbATcimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:08:05 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Cheap 200LXs Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Avi Meshar writes: > Not so fast! If you send 90K of messages, you cannot receive any > because I assume PG does not delete them after sending them out. I know I > am nitpicking. My point is to make sure that people see that it is REALLY > hard to make the 1MB useful with email. You really need more room to make > it practical. I agree with Avi. I have a 4mb unit with a broken hinge and a 2mb unit which is healthy. I use PNR & LXTCP for all my email. On the 4mb unit my mailbox for PNR was on drive C:. When is witched to the 2mb unit, I moved it to drive a: as there was not enough room for my EMM200 swap file and all my email, and the basic binaries which I wanted on drive c:. Even more so on a 1Mb unit. -- ** David Becher ** davidbATnetmedia.net.il davidbATcimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:04:32 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX Comments: To: Christof Harper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christof Harper" To: Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:13 AM Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX > >> There have been threads about getting low 95LX backup battery > > warnings that > >> cannot be turned off. > > > My original 95lx had that problem. > > So, I guess the questions remaining are whether or not it really affects > functionality and whther or not the flash card really is drawing power > from the backup battery. I suppose I can measure the latter by leaving > everything off for a day or two and metering the batteries. I was using an SRAM card in my 95 when this happened. I didn't buy a flash card till the 100lx. I don't think the problem I had was related to cards. It happened when I let the batteries go totally dead. I had done that before with no problem so I'm not sure that's related either. Other people had that same problem and I don't think anyone ever figured out a pattern. It might be that you have 2 unrelated problems. Or maybe your problem and mine aren't related. Hard to say. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:55:10 -0700 Reply-To: joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Buford Subject: Words to live by MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Desidoreplicator The following text was found carved into the back of a Commodore CBM Business machine, dated 1-Sep-1970 Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in pressing the UPS SHUTDOWN button. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons - Even the helpdesk Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and when that fails, use the ZX81 method of punching information into people repeatedly. Listen to others, even to the dull and ignorant; for you too may be a Manager some day. Avoid loud and aggressive persons; especially if they have business cards but no entertainment budget. If you compare your processor with others, you'll get bitter and twisted as there's always a faster processor on the market. (for you to steal from the Boss's machine when he buys it) Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans - Doubly so for the those that no-one knows about. Keep interested in your own career, however humble, but always lie on your C.V. Exercise caution in your Equipment Purchases, For Vendors are full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; Many persons strive for high ideals - Right up until they sell out. Be yourself. Especially, do not feign respect for technical incompetance. Neither be cynical about Benchmarking; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantement, they don't mean anything anyway. Take kindly the counsel of the years, but limit your intake of "When I worked with PDPs" stories. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you when the excrement and cooling device meet. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. That's the Boss's job. Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance - Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself, but not too gentle when browsing porn. You know what I mean. You are a child of the Internet, no less an ICQer than others You have a RIGHT to your opinion, Even if it is crap. And whether or not it is clear to you, someone's broken into your machine and replacing your porn with Mandelbrot images. Therefore be at peace with Computing, Whichever platform you run or operating system you use. Even if it is Microsoft. Even if you forked out for Software Assurance Even if you thought Open meant Open. And whatever your trials and tribulations, in the noisy confusion of life, remember to get enough sleep. A talk by Richard Stallman is good for this. With all its limited download speeds, inflated specs and broken promises, it is still a reasonable experience mainly. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy Oh, and we just set fire to your desktop. Amen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 15:21:58 -0700 Reply-To: Larry Mittell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Mittell Subject: Re: Words to live by Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Umm... they knew about Microsoft and the Internet in 1970? But I nitpick-- it was worth more than a few belly-laughs, anachronisms and all. I especially enjoyed the bit about Richard Stallman, having just seen him interviewed on The Screensavers. Larry Mittell At 12:55 PM 10/22/2002, Joe Buford wrote: >Desidoreplicator > > The following text was found carved into > the back of a > Commodore CBM Business machine, dated 1-Sep-1970 > > Go placidly amid the noise and haste, > and remember what peace there may be in pressing the > UPS SHUTDOWN > button. --snip-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:35:33 -0500 Reply-To: Tim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Re: Words to live by In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021022152116.03f72210@pop1.attglobal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry Wrote: >Umm... they knew about Microsoft and the Internet in 1970? But I >Nitpick--it was worth more than a few belly-laughs, anachronisms and all.... Same true for ICQ, I think, but cute. --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:41:30 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Subject: FS: 3 times 200LX with 448MB flashcard, and other sundries etc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Michel wrote: (In answer to a question asked recently: I am _not_ giving out names of satisfied buyers, but you can always ask around on the list and get the buyers to volunteer comments). ---- ok, it was me, and i have to say that this Dutch gentleman is for real and does what he promises. Dr.Nat ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:55:18 -0400 Reply-To: cojonesdetoro@excite.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ed toro Subject: FA: 32MB 200LX plus Extras MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__309c11db3e8a39db79c3762d315b6551"; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__309c11db3e8a39db79c3762d315b6551 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm getting rid of my backup unit. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1392153495 These are $600 at thaddeus. You can 'buy this now' and get it refurbished for a whole lot less. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__309c11db3e8a39db79c3762d315b6551 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,

I'm getting rid of my backup unit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1392153495

These are $600 at thaddeus. You can 'buy this now' and get it refurbished for a whole lot less.





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The most personalized portal on the Web! --EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__309c11db3e8a39db79c3762d315b6551-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:13:08 +0800 Reply-To: JIMMY TAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JIMMY TAN Subject: Genealogy Program Comments: To: joseph.e.buford@boeing.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It works! Thanks Joe. ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: joseph.e.buford@boeing.com Date: 2002-10-22 3:00 AM Jimmy, I use maxdos to run FSB from an aplication Icon Path looks like: C:\maxdos.com -s -v3u a:\fsb\fsb.exe/mono| This loads maxdos in silent mode, and English text mode. and the mono on the end of the fsb.exe loads in mono mode making it easier to see on the 200lx. Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 00:23:14 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Subject: Q: cut and paste from CPACK200 to WIN98? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all On my recent trip I left my palmtop home and used my Thinkpad running the connectivity pack to get to my calendar, phone book and such. I would like to know if there is a way to cut and paste to/from the connectivity pack PIM applications to WIN98 applications. It's just ASCII, how hard could it be???? -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 00:28:41 -0400 Reply-To: Eric Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Subject: Re: Q: cut and paste from CPACK200 to WIN98? Comments: To: Andrew MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am not sure about win 98 but in WIN NT (if you are runninga DOS window), you can right-click on the title bar of the dos window and select EDIT->Mark and then highlight the data in the window and select edit-> copy(enter) That should put it in the clipboard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:23 AM Subject: Q: cut and paste from CPACK200 to WIN98? > Hello all > On my recent trip I left my palmtop home and used my Thinkpad running > the connectivity pack to get to my calendar, phone book and such. > I would like to know if there is a way to cut and paste to/from the > connectivity pack PIM applications to WIN98 applications. > It's just ASCII, how hard could it be???? > > -- > Andrew King > Ann Arbor Michigan > technology is the answer, what was the question? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 01:06:31 -0400 Reply-To: cojonesdetoro@excite.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ed toro Subject: Re: FA: 32MB 200LX plus Extras MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__ec116f2901708b2e843c27bd5499b23a"; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__ec116f2901708b2e843c27bd5499b23a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, it's gone already... I do also have a pair of Philips Ninos + accessories for sale. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1392131661&rd=1 It makes a good book reader because of the backlight.... but that's about it.Considering that glowing review, the price is high but I based it onrecently sold units. --- On Tue 10/22, ed toro < cojonesdetoro@excite.com > wrote:From: ed toro [mailto: cojonesdetoro@excite.com]To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUDate: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:55:18 -0400Subject: FA: 32MB 200LX plus Extras Hi,I'm getting rid of my backup unit.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1392153495These are $600 at thaddeus. You can 'buy this now' and get it refurbished for a whole lot less. Join Excite! - http://www.excite.comThe most personalized portal on the Web! _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__ec116f2901708b2e843c27bd5499b23a Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Well, it's gone already...

I do also have a pair of Philips Ninos + accessories for sale.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1392131661&rd=1

It makes a good book reader because of the backlight.... but that's about it.
Considering that glowing review, the price is high but I based it on
recently sold units.





--- On Tue 10/22, ed toro < cojonesdetoro@excite.com > wrote:

From: ed toro [mailto: cojonesdetoro@excite.com]
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:55:18 -0400
Subject: FA: 32MB 200LX plus Extras





Hi,

I'm getting rid of my backup unit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1392153495

These are $600 at thaddeus. You can 'buy this now' and get it refurbished for a whole lot less.








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The most personalized portal on the Web! --EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__ec116f2901708b2e843c27bd5499b23a-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:37:39 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: /* I think */ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jon 1 day 56m ago Jon Barrett wrote: > The reason it's running is that Command.com's the first entry in the root > directory, which the wildcard expansion's taking care of. The machines > which aren't accepting it are ones with something else, maybe > non-executable, in the current root. Try creating a directory with some > other application as the first file in it, CD to it, and run * from there. I thought that, too, but 1. if I do a cd \ and then tun *, it says bad command or filename. 2. if I run \* instead of /*, it also says bad command or filename, so the slash in front of the asterisk does not seem to mean "root dir", and the asterisk itself does also not seem to refer to the first file in the dir. Strange. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:37:40 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: software requested MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Erwann and Mike 09h45m ago Erwann ABALEA wrote: > The latest version of Microsoft Word for DOS is the 5.5. Check on Super. > > I don't know if you can run the Windows version on a 8086. I don't think > so. There is also a version 6, which runs fine on the palmtop, and even supports TrueType fonts. Doesn't need Windows. Harvard Graphics would be nice to have... ;-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:23:20 +0200 Reply-To: Erwann ABALEA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Erwann ABALEA Organization: Halfling Soft Subject: Re: software requested Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: <200210230636.g9N6aps17842@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Erwann and Mike > > 09h45m ago Erwann ABALEA wrote: > > > The latest version of Microsoft Word for DOS is the 5.5. Check on Super. > > > > I don't know if you can run the Windows version on a 8086. I don't think > > so. > > There is also a version 6, which runs fine on the palmtop, and even > supports TrueType fonts. Doesn't need Windows. I heard of this version 6 before, but I never found it anywhere, so I thought it was a joke... Do you have it? -- Erwann ABALEA - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x2D0EABD5 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:15:35 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Q: cut and paste from CPACK200 to WIN98? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew wrote: > I would like to know if there is a way to cut and paste to/from the > connectivity pack PIM applications to WIN98 applications. > It's just ASCII, how hard could it be???? I do what you could have done - played around a little and tried it out. Cut and paste does not work from the HP software in the DOSbox to windows, but as it does of course work inside HP you can paste to memo and save the file. Another question is whether braindead windows software can use the data sensibly. My Atari program can import absolutely anything once I have spelled out the format to it, which is why I still endure the hassle of the emulator. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:26:21 +0800 Reply-To: Jorgen Wallgren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Re: software requested MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > In light of 5.5 being the most recent dos version of msword, Actually- that would be MS Word 6.0 for DOS. And yes, this version works great on 200LX. Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:26:23 +0800 Reply-To: Jorgen Wallgren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: MS PowerPoint for DOS? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi There, Many of today's MS programs has old DOS versions which works great on 200LX- such as MS Word 6.0, MS Excel 2.1, MS Project... But is there any old MS PowerPoint version for DOS? Thanks and Regards, Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 06:28:43 -0700 Reply-To: joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Buford Subject: Re: Genealogy Program Comments: To: JIMMY TAN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Your very welcome! "JIMMY TAN" @yeos.com.my> on 10/22/2002 09:13:08 PM Please respond to "JIMMY TAN" To: joseph.e.buford@boeing.com, HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU cc: Subject: Genealogy Program It works! Thanks Joe. ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: joseph.e.buford@boeing.com Date: 2002-10-22 3:00 AM Jimmy, I use maxdos to run FSB from an aplication Icon Path looks like: C:\maxdos.com -s -v3u a:\fsb\fsb.exe/mono| This loads maxdos in silent mode, and English text mode. and the mono on the end of the fsb.exe loads in mono mode making it easier to see on the 200lx. Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:36:12 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Q: cut and paste from CPACK200 to WIN98? Comments: To: Eric MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:28 PM Subject: Re: Q: cut and paste from CPACK200 to WIN98? > I am not sure about win 98 but in WIN NT (if you are runninga DOS window), > you can right-click on the title bar of the dos window and select EDIT->Mark > and then highlight the data in the window and select edit-> copy(enter) > > That should put it in the clipboard. I cut and paste too and from dos windows on win98 all the time. It's slightly different than you describe. Below the title bar of the dos window the icons are there all the time. Right clicking isn't necessary. The square made from a dashed line is called mark. Click it and define a rectangle on the dos window. That makes the copy icon ungreyed. Click that, put the cursor where you want to paste and use Ctrl-V. The other icon is the paste icon that you can use to copy text from windows apps to the dos window. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:40:01 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: MS PowerPoint for DOS? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There is no PowerPoint for DOS. The first version, originally called "Presenter" by a company called Forethought, was either for the Mac or Windows 2.0. My info comes from http://www.bitbetter.com/powertips.htm and http://officetutor.com/column/ppt/ppt_01.htm -----Original Message----- From: Jorgen Wallgren [mailto:wallgren@SINGNET.COM.SG] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:26 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: MS PowerPoint for DOS? Hi There, Many of today's MS programs has old DOS versions which works great on 200LX- such as MS Word 6.0, MS Excel 2.1, MS Project... But is there any old MS PowerPoint version for DOS? Thanks and Regards, Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:56:38 -0400 Reply-To: Sales@Systems-Consulting.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Paul Anderson@Systems-Consulting" Subject: Re: Q: cut and paste from CPACK200 to WIN98? In-Reply-To: <001601c27a99$3b536020$be0d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CPACK200\APP200.BAT cannot be run in a window in Windows 98. Thanks, Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:20:17 +0200 Reply-To: Ulrich.Allen@GMX.De Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Uli Allen Subject: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have got a Philips PM97 Scope Meter with an IR-Output to print the screen to a Think Jet Printer. I can receive this data with the IR-port of my HP200LX. Is there a chance to get that converted back to a picture on the HP-screen? Uli ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:26:05 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Q: cut and paste from CPACK200 to WIN98? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Paul Anderson@Systems-Consulting" wrote: > CPACK200\APP200.BAT cannot be run in a window in Windows 98. Don't tell that to any of my computers, please! What happens when I type "HP" into "run" or into the "address" toolbar is my HP.BAT echo on subst b: c:\driver\hp-con c: cd\driver\hp-con app200 REM subst b: /D The substitute is only there to let me have reasonably short paths inside the HP emulator. Have you forgotten to start app200 from withion its own path so it is able to find all its files? Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:28:17 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Q: cut and paste from CPACK200 to WIN98? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > I cut and paste too and from dos windows on win98 all the time. > It's slightly different than you describe. Below the title bar of > the dos window the icons are there all the time. Right clicking > isn't necessary. Although app200 is started withina DOS window, it takes over the whole screen. No icons there. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:39:01 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: out of office MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mr Alex Green and all others whom it might concern: Please do not take this personally, but i really could not care less whether you are in your office or not and neither I presume can most of the other contributors here. Danke Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:07:26 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Comments: To: Ulrich.Allen@GMX.De MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Uli Allen" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:20 AM Subject: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? > I have got a Philips PM97 Scope Meter with an IR-Output to > print the screen to a Think Jet Printer. > I can receive this data with the IR-port of my HP200LX. > Is there a chance to get that converted back to a picture on > the HP-screen? I'm not sure how much this will help but that's almost surely in HPGCL, the graphics control lanuage used in most HP printers. While looking for something else a couple of weeks ago I found a lot of free downloadable HPGCL viewers. I don't know how many, if any will work in dos and on a 80186 cpu and without VGA (I suspect that'll be the biggest problem). But it's worth looking into. I think I did a google search on PCL, not HPGCL, when I found this. But searching on HPGCL will probably be more direct. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 08:40:43 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Fw: Re: MS PowerPoint for DOS? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: pksharma To: Feldman, Robert Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: Re: Re: MS PowerPoint for DOS? > i sent one power point for dos to daniel .. i guess he's uploaded > it too > > ..pk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Feldman, Robert > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:10 PM > Subject: Re: MS PowerPoint for DOS? > > > > There is no PowerPoint for DOS. The first version, originally > called > > "Presenter" by a company called Forethought, was either for the > Mac or > > Windows 2.0. > > > > My info comes from http://www.bitbetter.com/powertips.htm and > > http://officetutor.com/column/ppt/ppt_01.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jorgen Wallgren [mailto:wallgren@SINGNET.COM.SG] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:26 AM > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > Subject: MS PowerPoint for DOS? > > > > > > Hi There, > > > > Many of today's MS programs has old DOS versions which works > great on > > 200LX- such as MS Word 6.0, MS Excel 2.1, MS Project... But is > there > > any old MS PowerPoint version for DOS? > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > Jorgen > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 00:30:49 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Subject: Re: cut and paste from CPACK200 (now cpack in dos window) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: Re: Q: cut and paste from CPACK200 to WIN98? > Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:28:17 +0200 > From: Axel Berger > > Barry wrote: > > I cut and paste too and from dos windows on win98 all the time. > > It's slightly different than you describe. Below the title bar of > > the dos window the icons are there all the time. Right clicking > > isn't necessary. > > Although app200 is started withina DOS window, it takes over the whole > screen. No icons there. > > Axel So perhaps the question should be: Is there any way to run CPACK200 under Windows 98 without having it take over the whole screen? At least if I could make the window smaller I could read the CPACK data while typing in Windows. This may be difficult for me, I tried "MSDOS prompt" under the program menu and it took over the whole screen. It seems to me it used to give me a nice small window..... I could use the Omnibook PIM programs, they should work fine under WIN98. But although they use the same data files as the palmtop they don't work the same which is more of an aggravation than not being able to cut and paste. Thanks for the ideas -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:18:30 -0400 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Barry wrote: > > I have got a Philips PM97 Scope Meter with an IR-Output to > > print the screen to a Think Jet Printer. > > I can receive this data with the IR-port of my HP200LX. > > Is there a chance to get that converted back to a picture on > > the HP-screen? > > I'm not sure how much this will help but that's almost surely in > HPGCL, the graphics control lanuage used in most HP printers. > I think I did a google search on PCL, not HPGCL, when I found this. > But searching on HPGCL will probably be more direct. The ThinkJets were older units that did HP graphics, or emulated Epson 80 pin printers (MX-80). I'm not sure the HP stuff was called PCL or HPGCL at that time. If you have problems with the default output from the PM97, see if it can output the other supported print stream. There are/were Epson viewers around at one point in time. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 07:56:47 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: cut and paste from CPACK200 (now cpack in dos window) Comments: To: Andrew MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew" To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:30 AM Subject: Re: cut and paste from CPACK200 (now cpack in dos window) > So perhaps the question should be: > Is there any way to run CPACK200 under Windows 98 without having it take > over the whole screen? At least if I could make the window smaller I > could read the CPACK data while typing in Windows. > This may be difficult for me, I tried "MSDOS prompt" under the program > menu and it took over the whole screen. It seems to me it used to give > me a nice small window..... If it's a 16 bit program the shortcut to it (if there isn't one, make one) will have a screen tab. Right click on the icon, select properties and click the screen tab. There you'll see an option to run in a window or to run in full screen. I'm not familiar with cpack200. I bought cpack for the 95lx but after installing it I decided not to use it and I haven't seen cpack since. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:09:13 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:18 AM Subject: Re: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? > Barry wrote: > > > > I have got a Philips PM97 Scope Meter with an IR-Output to > > > print the screen to a Think Jet Printer. > > > I can receive this data with the IR-port of my HP200LX. > > > Is there a chance to get that converted back to a picture on > > > the HP-screen? > > > > I'm not sure how much this will help but that's almost surely in > > HPGCL, the graphics control lanuage used in most HP printers. > > > I think I did a google search on PCL, not HPGCL, when I found this. > > But searching on HPGCL will probably be more direct. > > The ThinkJets were older units that did HP graphics, > or emulated Epson 80 pin printers (MX-80). I'm not sure > the HP stuff was called PCL or HPGCL at that time. If > you have problems with the default output from the PM97, > see if it can output the other supported print stream. > There are/were Epson viewers around at one point in time. I was replying to Uli Allen. I'm not having the problem. I wrote some printer control files and drivers for various HP printers way back when. In the dos days. I know they were used on a couple of Thinkjets. I can't remember if the laser printer files worked on them. But I think they did. If the Epson emulation was FX-80 instead of MX-80 (most but not all emulations were FX-80) then it has it's own graphics control method. Not as simple as writing a printer control file. It'll take a driver. But not too sophisticated a driver. I had to write a driver like that for a Panasonic with FX-80 emulation to be used on our DG minicomputer. There wasn't that much to it. But that was converting from a mono graphic in plain binary format, only lead by length x width. Doing it for a JPG will be tricky. I have no idea what's involved in decoding a JPG. There's probably downloable code for this. PCX wouldn't be difficult. Converting from color to mono will probably be difficult to do well. Or from 16 bit color to 4 bit color. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:33:02 -0400 Reply-To: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Subject: FLUFF: A gala Event MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pocket PC awards http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/021024/lath070_1.html I heard that Madonna attended and she puked in the toilet back stage. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:49:36 -0500 Reply-To: n2vip@VERIZON.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: FLUFF: A gala Event Comments: To: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" > > Pocket PC awards > > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/021024/lath070_1.html > > I heard that Madonna attended and she puked in the toilet back > stage. What, you've never heard of a dog marking their territory? ;^) Ken ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:39:29 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: FLUFF: A gala Event Comments: To: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3 wrote: > I heard that Madonna attended and she puked in the toilet back stage. Thank you so much for sharing that with us. A new low in off topic posts has just been reached. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:36:53 -0400 Reply-To: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Subject: Re: FLUFF: A gala Event MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Brooks" To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: Re: FLUFF: A gala Event > eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3 wrote: > > I heard that Madonna attended and she puked in the toilet back stage. > > Thank you so much for sharing that with us. > A new low in off topic posts has just been reached. As much as I'd like to take credit for a 'new low', I'm sure that worse stuff has passed through UConnVM.UConn.Edu. Besides, I didn't think it was all that low, just... funny. Y'know? funny-ha-ha not funny-strange.. :^D ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 17:51:36 +0000 Reply-To: cliff omwoyo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: cliff omwoyo Subject: assistance needed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello, everybody. i hope what i am about to say does not sound very silly to you all. i thave no idea as to what i am subscribing to hear but i choose not to be ignorant and to learn. So if one of you would be so kind as to fill me in on exactly what HPLX-L is or to what a mailing list is or its functions, i would gratly appreciate that. THANK YOU. CLIFF _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:04:41 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Pigford Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Pigford Subject: Re: FLUFF: A gala Event Comments: To: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I thought it was funny, too. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "eD\/ARd0 F/\KEn^M3" To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:36 PM Subject: Re: FLUFF: A gala Event > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russel Brooks" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: FLUFF: A gala Event > > > > eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3 wrote: > > > I heard that Madonna attended and she puked in the toilet back stage. > > > > Thank you so much for sharing that with us. > > A new low in off topic posts has just been reached. > > As much as I'd like to take credit for a 'new low', I'm sure that worse > stuff has passed through UConnVM.UConn.Edu. Besides, I didn't think it was > all that low, just... funny. Y'know? funny-ha-ha not funny-strange.. :^D > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:36:37 +0200 Reply-To: Ulrich.Allen@GMX.De Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Uli Allen Subject: WG: Rejected posting to HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What do I do wrong? For some time now my postings to the list are rejected. Uli -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: L-Soft list server at U. of Connecticut (1.8d) [mailto:LISTSERV@UConnVM.UConn.Edu] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2002 20:33 An: Ulrich Allen Betreff: Rejected posting to HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Your message is being returned to you unprocessed because it looks like a LISTSERV command, rather than material intended for distribution to the members of the HPLX-L list. Please note that LISTSERV commands must ALWAYS be s= ent to the LISTSERV address; if it was indeed a command you were attempting to issue, please send it again to LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU for execution. Otherwise, please accept our apologies and try to rewrite the message with a slightly different wording - for instance, change the first word of the message, enclose it in quotation marks, insert a line of dashes at the beginning of your message, etc. ------------------------ Rejected message (36 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UCONNVM (NJE origin SMTP4@UCONNVM) by UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 3771; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:32:55 -0400 Received: from mail1.uits.uconn.edu [137.99.25.203] by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 310) via TCP with SMTP ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:32:55 EDT Received: from webmail.tiscali.de (webmail.tiscali.de [62.27.55.1] (may b= e forged)) by mail1.uits.uconn.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9OIXqs0099= 7 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:33:52 -0400 Received: from ulis (80.142.130.8) by webmail.tiscali.de (6.0.045) id 3D6CD78500D5E884 for HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu; Thu, 24 Oct 200= 2 20:18:40 +0200 Reply-To: From: "Uli Allen" To: Subject: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:30:46 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-MailScanner: Found to be clean ok, Axel, it sounds promissing but I would be totally overtasked with such a solution and could be no help. In the printer setup of the scopemeter is an alternative called FX/LX graph. But I don't know if that could help to solve the problem. May be that is only a different printer (EPSON?)? So far the only chance to add it to an email is to print it and scan it. Uli ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:49:24 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: assistance needed Comments: To: cliff omwoyo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "cliff omwoyo" To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:51 PM Subject: assistance needed > Hello, everybody. i hope what i am about to say does not sound very silly to > you all. i thave no idea as to what i am subscribing to hear but i choose > not to be ignorant and to learn. So if one of you would be so kind as to > fill me in on exactly what HPLX-L is or to what a mailing list is or its > functions, i would gratly appreciate that. THANK YOU. Yep! Pretty silly. :) HP made some palmtop computers beginning in the early 90s and discontinued them a year or so ago. The first one was the 95LX. It weighed 11 ounces (including 2 AA batteries) and fit (not comfortably) in a pocket. This was in the days before Palm and WinCE. The unique thing about this is that it was a reasonably compatible MS-Dos computer that you could carry in your pocket or glovebox or wherever was handy. It would run most dos programs and there were, at that time, a lot more dos programs available than windows programs. It's main limitations were it's lack of a 386 (it uses an 80186) and it's proprietary graphics, meaning it wouldn't run any programs that weren't text mode. In those days most programs were text mode so that wasn't as big a limitation as it might have been. One of it's nice advantages was that dos was in rom and didn't have to reload from a disk. That meant you could reboot (restart) it in about 15 seconds. But you could also turn it off and back on and not have to reboot. It was truly instant on and everything was as you left it when you turned it off. Like today's Palm or PocketPC, but in those days that was a rare feature. It also had infra red and a PCMCIA slot. The infra red was such a new idea that the IRDA standard was later modelled after HP's implimentation. Unfortunately with a couple of changes. :) In addition to dos in rom there was a windows-like interface that could be used or not, depending on the configuration. Built into that were several applications such as a phone directory, calender, world time thingy, Lotus 123 spreadsheet program (complete), terminal program (the internet wasn't popular yet. Compuserve was king), a full HP calculator and some other stuff I can't think of. Also the keyboard had a seperate numeric keypad. That was because the original intention of this machine was to be a portable Lotus machine. At this time, Lotus 123 was far and away the best selling program on earth and it's often said that nearly half the people who bought computers bought only 123 to use with it. So that was a big deal. Later (1994? 95?) they made an improved model called the 100lx that added CGA graphics, already a little out of date but still on a screen that size was practically a miracle. HP said that screen was the most dense LCD ever made. It also doubled the speed of the CPU and at the same time doubled the battery life. It still ran on 2 AA batteries but now it could run for about 6 weeks on a set of batteries. Some people got more. Also they greatly updated the built-in applications, adding a general purpose database, Lotus' ccMail and a few other things. Even today these are far more powerful than the apps that come with any other PDA. Including the tiny Excel and Word subsets that come with PocketPC. It's possible to buy third party word stuff that can outdo the built-in stuff on the LX, but it's possible to get even more powerful programs for the LX as well. And most of those are now free. Also, no PDA spreadsheet made today is anywhere near as powerful as Lotus 123. Then, 2 or 3 years later, they made the 200lx, which still looks like the 95lx except it changed from black to very dark green. The 200lx improved the built-in apps some more, added Quicken and some other built-in apps. They also added a 2 meg and 4 meg model. They previously had had 1 meg. Then hackers got to work and a double speed upgrade and memory upgrade (to 96 meg). So, what is the HPLX users group? We're a bunch of outdated people who use an outdated computer. Outdated because looking at the numbers it seems so trivial. But some of us outdated people began using computers in the days before 99.9% of the power of the computer was used to help the user stay ignorant of computers. We don't really need a 90 meg OS to help us load a program. We don't have to have the same boring interface on every program. We are willing to put up with the fact that each program, having different needs, has a different interface. We're anachronisms. Should you desire to learn more, stick around. Also check out www.palmtop.net and www.palmtoppaper.net. And, should you decide to become an anachronism, too, you can even find palmtops there (or much cheaper but far riskier on Ebay). There's also a sample collection of software available at www.palmtop.net/super. Since a lot of anachronisms don't like being reminded that they're anacrhonisms, I'll likely be soundly flamed for what I've said here. If you do stick around you'll see that this is a very friendly group, even while flaming. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:03:31 +0200 Reply-To: Jan Pieter Beekhuis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jan Pieter Beekhuis Subject: TECH: Jinifont Char 130 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jinifont users or anyone who can perhaps help me add a missing french=20 character '=E9' (char 130) in the middle size screen font. I like the fon= t=20 but - since I am living in Switzerland - I need all the french and german= =20 characters as well. It seems that only the one I mentioned is missing in = the=20 Jinifont (in fact a square appears). Does anyone have a complete version? I found jinifont in helvjs.zip which resides within fontstuff.zip at this= =20 location: http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/fontstuf.zip Otherwise I will probably need to purchase books (!) in order to add an '= =E9'=20 and re-compile the fcl so it will work for more than just a few times. Thanks for your help. Jean-Pierre Beekhuis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:01:55 +0200 Reply-To: Ulrich.Allen@GMX.De Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Uli Allen Subject: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? In-Reply-To: <009801c27b5e$a0c80300$270d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote:....searching on HPGCL I found a lot about HPGL but not about HPGCL. You said there might be programs which could convert back to PCX? Output of the PM97 is certainly very simple - only black and white charts. Uli ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:08:04 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: assistance needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I could not put it more eloquently! bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" Subject: Re: assistance needed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:12:06 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Comments: To: Ulrich.Allen@GMX.De MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Uli Allen" To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:01 PM Subject: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? > Barry wrote:....searching on HPGCL > I found a lot about HPGL but not about HPGCL. Probably faulty memory on my part. It happens a lot. :) > You said there might be programs which could convert > back to PCX? Output of the PM97 is certainly very simple - > only black and white charts. I mentioned PCX in reference to writing a program. I did see some conversion programs from PCL and HPGL but I don't recall what they convert to. I don't remember where I saw them but it was probably searching on PCL or maybe on HPGL. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:21:36 -0300 Reply-To: Carlos Izzo Videla Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Carlos Izzo Videla Subject: Re: assistance needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all: Bravo to you, barry ... Well said. Regards, CIV ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:22:28 -0300 Reply-To: Carlos Izzo Videla Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Carlos Izzo Videla Subject: Re: assistance needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all: Bravo to you, Barry ... Well said. Regards, CIV ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:41:40 -0700 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: WG: Rejected posting to HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ok, On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Uli Allen wrote: > What do I do wrong? For some time now my postings to the list are > rejected. Maybe the problem is that your message starts with "ok" -- I think that is how listserv "confirms" subscription to a list, with a message that says "ok" in the body. Try removing the ok and see ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:44:50 +0200 Reply-To: Jan Pieter Beekhuis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jan Pieter Beekhuis Subject: Re: assistance needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think I am more or less the youngest in this Hewlett Packard HPxxxLX Palmtop User Forum and I will leave the answer to the oldest... Best regards (to you and to everybody), Jean-Pierre >>> original message from cliff omwoyo <<< > Hello, everybody. i hope what i am about to say does not sound very silly to > you all. i thave no idea as to what i am subscribing to hear but i choose > not to be ignorant and to learn. So if one of you would be so kind as to > fill me in on exactly what HPLX-L is or to what a mailing list is or its > functions, i would gratly appreciate that. THANK YOU. > CLIFF > > _________________________________________________________________ > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:45:28 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry folks, this was meant to to the group in the first place. Uli Allen wrote: > print the screen to a Think Jet Printer. > Is there a chance to get that converted back to a picture That is something i have been thinking about for a long time for all those programs that can print but not save. What I was planning but never got around to is using the output to a 180 dpi Epson compatible printer. The format is well documented and easy. Each line is begun by a format descriptor and its length followed by three bytes for each column of 24 pixels. It ought not to be too difficult to convert that to any of the uncompressed formats defining graphics one pixel line after the other using a 24 line buffer. The one thing is: for all the formats I know you have to know the length of the longest line at the start while the printer output may well begin with short lines if there is white space in the upper right. So you will have to go through the whole file once before beginning the conversion at the top. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:51:22 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > Doing it for a JPG will be tricky. I have > no idea what's involved in decoding a JPG. There's probably > downloable code for this. PCX wouldn't be difficult. What I was thinking of is far simpler to program but more involved for the user: - Print to file - Write a (BASIC) program to convert that to a very simple well documented uncompressed grapics format. - Use any graphics program to convert to the more involved formats. Parsing Epson-style graphics is rather easy. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:44:36 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: cut and paste from CPACK200 (now cpack in dos window) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew wrote: > Is there any way to run CPACK200 under Windows 98 without > having it take over the whole screen? As far as I am aware: no. You can only go back and forth with > This may be difficult for me, I tried "MSDOS prompt" under the program > menu and it took over the whole screen. It seems to me it used to give > me a nice small window..... That one is settable, do a right-click on it, go tp properties and screen. There is also a way to get back to a window while in fullscreen mode, but I always forget it. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 23:05:07 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: assistance needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > Since a lot of anachronisms don't like being reminded that they're > anacrhonisms, I'll likely be soundly flamed for what I've said > here. If you do stick around you'll see that this is a very > friendly group, even while flaming. :) Why on earth should anyone? Using an LX I am an anachronism in the same way I am cooking a meal from fresh basic ingredients instead of far more sensibly popping a frozen pizza into the microwave. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:35:24 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: assistance needed Comments: To: Axel Berger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:05 PM Subject: Re: assistance needed > Why on earth should anyone? Using an LX I am an anachronism in the same > way I am cooking a meal from fresh basic ingredients instead of far more > sensibly popping a frozen pizza into the microwave. Do they freeze pizzas now? What will they think of next? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:07:29 -0400 Reply-To: Sales@Systems-Consulting.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Paul Anderson@Systems-Consulting" Subject: Re: cut and paste from CPACK200 (now cpack in dos window) In-Reply-To: <3DB83F94.558ECA04@Nexgo.De> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alex, To switch from full screen to a window press Alt-Enter. Same to go back. APP200 will not do this. Thanks, Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:02:54 -0400 Reply-To: Eric Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Subject: Fluff: Re: assistance needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anacrhonisms ? So were all anacrhonisms? Is this a good thing? Should we all see a doctor? Perhaps take a shower? (not together and certainly not with our palmtops!) Does this anacrhonisms thing wash off ? Is that the smell I keep smelling? Or were anacrhonisms that lame Lucas-thing they came up with in StarWars...."he has the highest concentration of anacrhonisms I've ever seen !" Just a little humor .... operative word being "little". (Small enough to fit in your pocket with a set of AA batteries....okay, I'll stop now.) 8-) Eric PS(Well, it may be bad humor, but at least I FLUFFed it ! 8-D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: Re: assistance needed > Barry wrote: > > Since a lot of anachronisms don't like being reminded that they're > > anacrhonisms, I'll likely be soundly flamed for what I've said > > here. If you do stick around you'll see that this is a very > > friendly group, even while flaming. :) > > Why on earth should anyone? Using an LX I am an anachronism in the same > way I am cooking a meal from fresh basic ingredients instead of far more > sensibly popping a frozen pizza into the microwave. > > Axel > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:28:41 -0400 Reply-To: N Knight Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: N Knight Subject: Re: assistance needed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From: Barry >Then hackers got to work and a double speed upgrade and memory >upgrade (to 96 meg). Please don't refer to them has hackers.....I would call them miracle workers..... >So, what is the HPLX users group? We're a bunch of outdated people >who use an outdated computer. I would not call it an outdated computer. Sure there is newer stuff like the pocket pc. But newer is not always better. If you have a choice between getting a palm, getting a pocket pc or upgrading your 200lx.....go for the upgrade. As I always say newer is not always better. The main reason I got a pocket pc was becaue of E-books. But TPTB are doing their best to kill e-books. If the people who make e-books had their way they would figure out a way to put you in jail if you lend your paper backed book to a friend. Now I have a pokcet pc that won't read e-books because it doesn't have DRM5. So my advice to any new user, stick with your 200lx and get it upgraded......dont' bother with the pocket pc. _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.=A0 Try MSN!=20 http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:52:09 -0400 Reply-To: cojonesdetoro@excite.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eduardo Pseudonomen Subject: FLUFF: FA: HP Omnibook 800ct + extras MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A small laptop that complements the 200LX. It occupies the middle range between a full blown laptop and a powerful PDA. I have another one I use with a wireless card to wander around the house and do Internet stuff.. like draft this Email. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2064495560&rd=1 Thanks for looking. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:55:06 -0500 Reply-To: Tim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Re: assistance needed In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >So, what is the HPLX users group? etc..... Welcome! I'll add another "Well said Barry" to the message chain and add: This LISTSERV group is a GREAT source for ideas, troubleshooting problems w/ various LX (and sometimes other) models, DOS programs, text (re)formatting, Lotus secrets, programming, making your LX talk to everything (prob. including the toaster in some cases) and even a good source for discoveries about new uses and undisclosed features still being explored years after the machines went out of production(!)... Run-on sentence, I know! Oh, and this place is a repository of other wisdom regarding rechargeable batteries, peripheral device power consumption, LX-compatible equipment, reliable sources of supply (and those to be avoided), etc. There are surges of interest and participation of those who use their LX w/ GPS devices, LANs, short-wave messaging (called packet-radio? ... not my forte), PIM and database management, email solutions, games, etc. Soon there may be (more?) talk of wireless networking and even backlight possibilities for the LX. And, some folks even talk about the built-in programs.... ;-) There are a few members who lurk here and/or participate who don't even have LXs but love DOS programs, etc. You never know what you'll find. And, the "few" off-topic threads can range from interesting to "well I can sort by subject and delete those" ! This group is quite multinational and you'll find members from all over the world [in that vein: Daniel, any thought to a way to plot the locations (even if it's just by closest major city) of all the members in the LX Users Database? That would be interesting to see... I know we did a few "roll calls," sounding off about name and location, etc. too, maybe that compilation (or the LX Users Database) could be easily exported to something we could see on our built-in world maps ... Just a thought]. HTH, --tim ------------------------------------------- "There's always a way to do it better.... Find it!" T.A. Edison ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:40:19 -0600 Reply-To: Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: assistance needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I nominate Barry to be the worldwide spokesman for HPLX users. Well said, sir. And it doesn't bother me to be an anachronism, in fact, I kind of enjoy it; especially considering that such anachronisms as we are must be more intelligent and more intellectually active that the average human in order to succeed in our realm speciality. There are no lazy brains here - for the most part, at least! ;-) -- Richard & Patti Smith ---------- NO UCE / NO UBE / NO SPAM / http://www.cauce.org ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 01:04:14 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Subject: FLUFF: useful anacrhonisms MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: Barry > But some of us outdated people began > using computers in the days before 99.9% of the power of the > computer was used to help the user stay ignorant of computers. We > don't really need a 90 meg OS to help us load a program. Remember it's just DOS in a clown suit. Pay no attention to the OS behind the GUI. Don't get me wrong, I am a Windows user (but all my phone numbers and appointments are on the palmtop). -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:12:29 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: HPLX users database MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fri, 25.10.02 4:09 PM +0200 Hi friends, Bob has just finished the new version of the HPLX users database, and I sent it out to the members. Since I have gotten over 50 (!) mailer deamon failure notices instantly, I think I should ask here: All who are HPLXUSB members and have NOT gotten the update notification by email, please contact Bob Christopher (bob(at)palmtop.com) and let him update your email address in the database. Thank you! daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:12:58 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: assistance needed Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard and Patti Smith" To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:40 PM Subject: Re: assistance needed > I nominate Barry to be the worldwide spokesman for HPLX users. > > Well said, sir. I knew I'd get flamed. Sure glad this is a polite group. ;) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:06:56 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: assistance needed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Barry writes: > Yep! Pretty silly. :) ...... This has to be the most brilliant history or the HPLX world ever written. I strongly suggest putting this letter directly on the SUPER site. It really is a gem! -- ** David Becher ** davidbATnetmedia.net.il davidbATcimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:11:55 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Barry writes: > I mentioned PCX in reference to writing a program. I did see some > conversion programs from PCL and HPGL but I don't recall what they > convert to. I don't remember where I saw them but it was probably > searching on PCL or maybe on HPGL. I remember a DOS program which would convert from HPGL to all sorts of formats One of them was PCX. I dont remember the name but a search of a Dos repository for "HPGL" should turn it up. I even think at one stage I suggested adding it to SUPER... -- ** David Becher ** davidbATnetmedia.net.il davidbATcimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:27:17 -0400 Reply-To: Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: OT: Domain Registration done ... Need Free Web hosting. Comments: To: Carlos Izzo Videla In-Reply-To: <1034349380.b70ee060sawbona@myrealbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 11 Oct 2002 at 12:16, Carlos Izzo Videla wrote: > Now I need to find myself some good and free web hosting till my site is geared up enough to transfer to something of a more complex nature. > > Any good experiences to comment on or suggestions to follow ? I don't know if any free Web hosting services, but www.omnis.com offers Web hosting with one e-mail address for $3.75/month. I use On=mnis for my business Web site. ------ Victor Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:18:37 -0300 Reply-To: Carlos Izzo Videla Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Carlos Izzo Videla Subject: Re: OT: Domain Registration done ... Need Free Web hosting. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Victor Roberts" >I don't know if any free Web hosting services, >but www.omnis.com offers Web hosting with one e->mail address for $3.75/mo= nth ... Thanks for the input, Victor. ;-) I've found a very nice deal at www.portland.co.uk It's a really neat free domain hosting offer (with NO banners or ads!) with= 'just' enough disk space (15Mb) and bandwidth (100Mb/mo.) to satisfy my = actual needs. The web site forwarding is not working for some reason or other, but even t= hough I need it, I can manage without it for the time being. If anyone knows of a better deal than this one, please do let me know. Best regards, CIV ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:14:24 -0500 Reply-To: Jaime Zea Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jaime Zea Subject: Re: ESC-ON Diagnostics In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_6834079==_.ALT" --=====================_6834079==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 05:34 p.m. 07/10/2002 -0400, Bruce_Martin wrote: > > Does anyone know of a URL/web site that describes the > > ESC-ON diagnostics and what each one means? > > > > I tried to run TEST-ALL and it seems to just wait at > > the keyboard test for me to hits keys....after about 3 > > keys, it fails...very odd. > >WARNING! Do *NOT* run "Test all" or "Plug-in RAM card" tests if you have a >flash card in the slot! You will lose your data and ruin your card! This >type of test is meant only for older SRAM cards!!! That is exactly what happend to me. My HP 200LX is unable to read my FlashDisk HP 20 Mb (40 with Stacker); but I can read it it in other notebooks computers (PCMCII slot). I tried to format it but I cann't, the HP is unable to read it. Is there anything I can do??? Jaime Zea --=====================_6834079==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 05:34 p.m. 07/10/2002 -0400, Bruce_Martin wrote:
> Does anyone know of a URL/web site that describes the
> ESC-ON diagnostics and what each one means?
>
> I tried to run TEST-ALL and it seems to just wait at
> the keyboard test for me to hits keys....after about 3
> keys, it fails...very odd.

WARNING! Do *NOT* run "Test all" or "Plug-in RAM card" tests if you have a
flash card in the slot! You will lose your data and ruin your card! This
type of test is meant only for older SRAM cards!!!

That is exactly what happend to me.
My HP 200LX is unable to read my FlashDisk HP 20 Mb (40 with Stacker); but I can read it it in other notebooks computers (PCMCII slot).
I tried to format it but I cann't, the HP is unable to read it.

Is there anything I can do???

Jaime Zea

--=====================_6834079==_.ALT-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 02:35:25 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: FLUFF: fastfood (was: Re: assistance needed) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Barry 1 day 02h42m ago Barry wrote: > Do they freeze pizzas now? What will they think of next? Don't you know frozen Pizzas? Are they not popular in US? The worst hting I have seen is a boxed and cooled "Currywurst" (not sure if there is something like that in your country - a sausage with ketchup-curry-sauce). But Some of these frozen pizzas taste really good. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 02:35:26 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: assistance needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Tim 20h27m ago Tim wrote: > world [in that vein: Daniel, any thought to a way to plot the locations > (even if it's just by closest major city) of all the members in the LX Users > Database? That would be interesting to see... I know we did a few "roll > calls," sounding off about name and location, etc. too, maybe that > compilation (or the LX Users Database) could be easily exported to something > we could see on our built-in world maps ... Just a thought]. If there is a way to convert the location data in the database to latitude/longitude coordinates (using a kind of list), Gnuplot can plot them easily. The Gnuplot/DOS package on SUPER even has a world map example included, so this could be used as a basis maybe... GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:51:29 +0800 Reply-To: Wor Yuan Long Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Wor Yuan Long Subject: For Parts: HP 95LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01C27CEE.66F3A760" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C27CEE.66F3A760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, The unit has a broken screen (darken surface) but the board and most = components are still functioning well.=20 Hope that someone will be able to resurrect its parts for a new life. = Serial ABB3150A05723 (USA) Any reasonable quote will get it. Sold AS-IS and shipping is $10. Thanks wor ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C27CEE.66F3A760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C27CEE.66F3A760-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 03:07:25 -0300 Reply-To: Rodrigo Serra Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rodrigo Serra Subject: New Release of j200lx (Alpha 2) In-Reply-To: <005801c27cab$5a7ba660$633a459b@Wor> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello!!! I'm release Alpha 2 version of j200lx utilities!!! This new version include: - Add the rename function to the Filer library. - FTP server add the function to rename files. - Database support has improved. - Database editor (DbEdit) is released with read/write, sort, columns managment and much more. - New Filer protocol and database format documentation. Please see http://j200lx.sourceforge.net/ I'm pleasure to help to everybody in install or other questions about the library or utility. :) Bye ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:08:03 +0800 Reply-To: Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: For Parts: HP 95LX In-Reply-To: <005801c27cab$5a7ba660$633a459b@Wor>; from wor72@SINGNET.COM.SG on Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 12:51:29PM +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 12:51:29PM +0800, Wor Yuan Long wrote: > The unit has a broken screen (darken surface) Is the screen surface also bubbling up? My LX has those symptoms, and I'm wondering if it's related to high humidity (I'm also in Singapore). - Adrian ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:37:54 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Becher wrote: > I remember a DOS program which would convert from HPGL to all > sorts of formats One of them was PCX. I'm reluctant to contradict Barry, but I doubt, we're really talking HPGL here. HPGL is HP's plotter language and this is all about printers. I know that some exotic top of the range printers do have HPGL translation added into them, but in this case what we need to consider is IMHO either HPPCL or EscP. Personally I find the latter easier to use and understand, but tastes vary. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:42:56 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: FLUFF: fastfood (was: Re: assistance needed) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Don't you know frozen Pizzas? Although Barry very much like to put on airs of a very elderly grandfathorial gentleman, just this once I'm absolutely certain the remark was ironic. Barry: Please remember there are Germans here. Kurt Tucholski, when working as editor, reminded journalists: "Gentleman, in Germany irony is always to be set in italics!" Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:44:56 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: assistance needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Seconded Suggest Daniel as deputy (Delayed, due to forgetting to reset the To. again.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 06:26:21 -0400 Reply-To: Ulrich Allen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Allen Subject: Re: WG: Rejected posting to HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Ian wrote: the problem is that your message starts with "ok" Thanks a lot, Ian, that's really funny and I wasn't aware of that. I try to avoid OK at the beginning. Thanks again. Uli ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 08:54:27 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: FLUFF: fastfood (was: Re: assistance needed) Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:35 PM Subject: FLUFF: fastfood (was: Re: assistance needed) > Don't you know frozen Pizzas? Are they not popular in US? Sorry. I was being silly. We have frozen Pizza. After all, most peoplein this country think Pizza is a basic American food. :) > But Some of these frozen pizzas taste really good. They don't make that kind of Pizza in the US. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:00:45 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Comments: To: Axel Berger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 4:37 AM Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? > I'm reluctant to contradict Barry, but I doubt, we're really talking > HPGL here. HPGL is HP's plotter language and this is all about printers. > I know that some exotic top of the range printers do have HPGL > translation added into them, but in this case what we need to consider > is IMHO either HPPCL or EscP. Personally I find the latter easier to use > and understand, but tastes vary. I'm fully capable of being contradicted. :) You may be right. I wrote definition files and drivers for a lot of HP printers and we also had 1 small HP plotter that I also had to find ways to make work with programs that didn't know about it. Maybe that's where I remember HPGL. But I see you said HPPCL. I wonder if that's what I was thinking of. This was all a lot of years ago and my memory of it is vague. I wrote all the hardware related stuff for my company so even though printers were my responsibility they were a "peripheral" part of my job. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:05:02 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: FLUFF: fastfood (was: Re: assistance needed) Comments: To: Axel Berger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" To: Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 4:42 AM Subject: Re: FLUFF: fastfood (was: Re: assistance needed) >Although Barry very much like to put on airs of a very elderly >grandfathorial gentleman, just this once I'm absolutely certain the >remark was ironic. I am a grandfather three times. I'll be 62 in about a week. What airs? Oh, you mean the "gentleman" part. Yeah, I do fake that. :) > Barry: Please remember there are Germans here. Kurt Tucholski, when > working as editor, reminded journalists: "Gentleman, in Germany irony is > always to be set in italics!" In order to use italics for irony I'll have to use HTML. That's a no-no. And I love irony. So I guess Germany will just have to adapt. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:01:38 +0200 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: FLUFF: fastfood MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > After all, most > peoplein this country think Pizza is a basic American food. :) It is actually. Apart from the very village and its surrounds, where the founder of the first American (New York, I believe, but am not sure) pizza bakery came from Italiens did not know pizza before it came over the Atlantic. And even those people will not at first have recognized the Americanized version - it was extremely basic poor man's food to begin with. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:25:17 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: FLUFF: fastfood (was: Re: assistance needed) Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <001801c27cf7$476d31a0$0f0d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>They don't make that kind of Pizza in the US. :) oh yes they do check this http://www.loumalnatis.com/carsons/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:32:17 -0500 Reply-To: n2vip@VERIZON.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Words to live by Comments: To: Larry Mittell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Commodore machines are from later than 1970 - around 1976/77, IIRC. Ken > > From: Larry Mittell > Date: 2002/10/22 Tue PM 05:21:58 CDT > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Words to live by > > Umm... they knew about Microsoft and the Internet in 1970? But I nitpick-- > it was worth more than a few belly-laughs, anachronisms and all. I > especially enjoyed the bit about Richard Stallman, having just seen him > interviewed on The Screensavers. > > Larry Mittell > > > At 12:55 PM 10/22/2002, Joe Buford wrote: > >Desidoreplicator > > > > The following text was found carved into > > the back of a > > Commodore CBM Business machine, dated 1-Sep-1970 > > > > Go placidly amid the noise and haste, > > and remember what peace there may be in pressing the > > UPS SHUTDOWN > > button. > > --snip-- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:53:40 -0400 Reply-To: Ulrich Allen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Allen Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is my idea to, Axel. See my mail to David. There is some plain text at the begining of a HPGL file. But there is no text in the stream which come out of my scopemeter. Uli ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:53:38 -0400 Reply-To: Ulrich Allen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Allen Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David wrote: I remember a DOS program... Thank you David for caring. But I am not sure it is HPGL which comes out of the Scopemeter PM97. It says print to ThinkJet. But has that to be HPGL? In the graphic mode of Word2000 one can insert HPGL-files. The extension has to be .gra - but my print out file isn't recognized by word if I change it to .gra. Anyway - Super doesn't show a result with looking for HPGL. Where else could I search? Uli p.s. the alternative print out is called FX/LQ graph. which certainly has to do something with Epson? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:02:22 +0200 Reply-To: Juan Belmonte Moreno Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Juan Belmonte Moreno Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi friends Can be NO HP GL/2 but HP PCL FX/LQ are most popular raster printer codes (also epson dot matrix printers ;-) Regards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ulrich Allen" To: Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 9:53 PM Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? David wrote: I remember a DOS program... Thank you David for caring. But I am not sure it is HPGL which comes out of the Scopemeter PM97. It says print to ThinkJet. But has that to be HPGL? In the graphic mode of Word2000 one can insert HPGL-files. The extension has to be .gra - but my print out file isn't recognized by word if I change it to .gra. Anyway - Super doesn't show a result with looking for HPGL. Where else could I search? Uli p.s. the alternative print out is called FX/LQ graph. which certainly has to do something with Epson? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:00:05 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: FLUFF: fastfood (was: Re: assistance needed) Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >>They don't make that kind of Pizza in the US. :) > > oh yes they do check this > > http://www.loumalnatis.com/carsons/ Delivering hot pizza by air may seem kind of outrageous but I've helped do it. :) My dad had a flying school and I grew up on the airport and during the summer I spent a lot of time washing airplanes for spending money. I was washing a Vickers Viscount owned by Tennessee Gas when the flight crew showed up and made me stop. They needed the plane. They said it was a round trip to New York and invited me along and off I went. First time I'd been in an airliner type plane. At New York a pizza truck was waiting and we got 16 pizza's wrapped in very thick something or other, and came on back. Turns out one of Tennessee Gas's vice presidents was having a party that night. :) I asked the pilot what that trip cost the company and he guessed between $10,000 and $12,000. And that was in 1960 dollars. Pretty expensive pizza. An interesting side note: this particular plane had originally been built for Batista but when it was ready to be delivered he wasn't in a position to take it and Castro wasn't interested. So it was sold to Tennessee Gas instead. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 02:06:54 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan Peichl Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: ANN: homepage move MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Because of provider change my homepage moved: Old: http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl (or http://peichl.hplx.net) New: http://hplx.pgdn.de If you have linked my homepage, please use the new URL. It is still HV compatible; no images, no frames, just text. My email also changed. Please see the From: entry of this email. pgdn.de (shortcut for PageDown.de) is my new domain, hosted by http://www.adnewmedia.de They offer 10MB webspace, 1GB traffic, 5 mailboxes for 9 cent/month. I'm completely satisfied and recommend them to all german users who need a new domain or want to change their web hosting. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:48:39 -0400 Reply-To: cojonesdetoro@excite.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eduardo Pseudonomen Subject: FLUFF: Question about torx screws/drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry about the semi off-topic post but I could think of no better place of getting a well-informed answer. I'm trying to open a laptop in order to install a new drive (HP Omnibook 800ct) and am having trouble finding a torx screw driver that works. I have a set where the smallest drivers is a T-10. The larger ones go on up to T-20, T-30,etc. The T-10 is still too large for the screws on the laptop. Is there a T-0 or T-5 screw drivers size? Does anyone know where to get one? I tried Sadio Shack and Home Depot to no avail. Thanks. OBTW: Here's where it becomes semi-OT. Does the LX use torx screws? What size? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:04:58 -0500 Reply-To: bnj@myrealbox.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: FLUFF: Question about torx screws/drivers Comments: To: cojonesdetoro@excite.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed, The LX uses a T-6 and I believe the OB800 does as well. You can get the sm= all sizes lots of places. Do they have a Sears near you in NYC? They've= got them in most Sears stores. bob -----Original Message----- From: Eduardo Subject: FLUFF: Question about torx screws/drivers Sorry about the semi off-topic post but I could think of no better place of getting a well-informed answer. I'm trying to open a laptop in order to install a new drive (HP Omnibook 800ct) and am having trouble finding a torx screw driver that works. I have a set where the smallest drivers is a T-10. The larger ones go on up to T-20, T-30,etc. The T-10 is still too large for the screws on the laptop. Is there a T-0 or T-5 screw drivers size? Does anyone know where to get one? I tried Sadio Shack and Home Depot to no avail. Thanks. OBTW: Here's where it becomes semi-OT. Does the LX use torx screws? What size? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:39:57 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: FLUFF: fastfood (was: Re: assistance needed) Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <009e01c27d4c$31eb83e0$0f0d22d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Delivering hot pizza by air may seem kind of outrageous but I've >>helped do it. :) not hot, premade uncooked frozen and packed in dry ice than delivered to your door proving there is a good frozen pizza in the usa ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:43:32 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Subject: Re: virus, could it be me? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All I'm just back from the east on Sunday (10/20) and was wondering if anyone had got any more mystery messages. I was only able to dial in a couple of times for messages between 10/16 and 10/20 so I figure if the messages kept coming during that time then it likely wasn't me. I did update and run Norton anti Virus on the 21st but it didn't find anything. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:17:57 -0700 Reply-To: bobv@sos.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob Subject: Secure Device MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I've been playing with Secure Device, and seem to be running into a problem with it on the HP200LX. If set to time out, the computer turns off before the program times out, then it stops "counting" time while the computer "sleeps" thereby not disabling. Have others found this to be true? Does anyone know if it is looking for ANY activity (keystroke) or ONLY access to the secure device? Thanks, Bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:30:18 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: FLUFF: Question about torx screws/drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Ed 06h11m ago Eduardo Pseudonomen wrote: > Sorry about the semi off-topic post but I could think of no better place > of getting a well-informed answer. I'm trying to open a laptop in order to > install a new drive (HP Omnibook 800ct) and am having trouble finding a > > OBTW: Here's where it becomes semi-OT. Does the LX use torx screws? What > size? Same size as OB800: Torx-6. You'll get them in electronic stores, I think. Maybe a small philips screwdriver also fits, but I would not recommend it. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 03:40:47 -0500 Reply-To: Eric Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Subject: Re: FLUFF: Question about torx screws/drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sears definately carries them individually for about 2 bucks. Radio Shack (around here) only had them down to Torx-8. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 3:30 AM Subject: Re: FLUFF: Question about torx screws/drivers > Hi Ed > > 06h11m ago Eduardo Pseudonomen wrote: > > > Sorry about the semi off-topic post but I could think of no better place > > of getting a well-informed answer. I'm trying to open a laptop in order to > > install a new drive (HP Omnibook 800ct) and am having trouble finding a > > > > > OBTW: Here's where it becomes semi-OT. Does the LX use torx screws? What > > size? > > Same size as OB800: Torx-6. > You'll get them in electronic stores, I think. > Maybe a small philips screwdriver also fits, but I would not recommend > it. > > GTX > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:38:24 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: WANTED: Sandisk 32MB CF card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sun, 27.10.02 11:36 AM +0200 Hi friends, I'm looking for a Sandisk 32MB Compactflash card. If anyone has one for sale, please contact me privately. European sellers preferred, because of shipping costs and hassles with Anthrax detectors. Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:04:48 -0500 Reply-To: AJKind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: AJKind Subject: Re: FLUFF: Question about torx screws/drivers In-Reply-To: <1089.192.168.33.39.1035683319.squirrel@badeddie.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have found the best source of small (T1 on up) is Willi Hahn tools www.wihatools.com They have bits(1/4 hex) down to T3. Priced reasonable, and excellent quality. not affiliated...just a happy customer Cheers...Al Kind Microchemistry Lab & Proteomics Ctr, University of CT 3113 Horsebarn Rd, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA ph:(860)486-6126 eFAX:(413)826-8780 -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU]On Behalf Of Eduardo Pseudonomen Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 9:49 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: FLUFF: Question about torx screws/drivers Sorry about the semi off-topic post but I could think of no better place of getting a well-informed answer. I'm trying to open a laptop in order to install a new drive (HP Omnibook 800ct) and am having trouble finding a torx screw driver that works. I have a set where the smallest drivers is a T-10. The larger ones go on up to T-20, T-30,etc. The T-10 is still too large for the screws on the laptop. Is there a T-0 or T-5 screw drivers size? Does anyone know where to get one? I tried Sadio Shack and Home Depot to no avail. Thanks. OBTW: Here's where it becomes semi-OT. Does the LX use torx screws? What size? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:20:38 +0800 Reply-To: Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" David, Any chance you remember the program or have a copy of it? I did a google search and was not successful. I think that program may just be the proper incentive for me to upgrade a simple Basic program I wrote 7 years ago. Oliver >I remember a DOS program which would convert from HPGL to all sorts of formats >One of them was PCX. I dont remember the name but a search of a Dos repository >for "HPGL" should turn it up. I even think at one stage I suggested adding it >to SUPER... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:36:32 -0500 Reply-To: cojonesdetoro@excite.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eduardo Pseudonomen Subject: Re: FLUFF: Question about torx screws/drivers Comments: To: albert.kind@uconn.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for all the replies. I found a guy selling them on Ebay fpr $6 shipped... Seems like an okay price. After asking the question I realized that I remember reading about needing a T6 driver to open the LX. Regards. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:44:08 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Comments: To: Oliver Chua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Chua" To: Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 8:20 AM Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? > Any chance you remember the program or have a copy of it? I did a google > search and was not successful. I think that program may just be the proper > incentive for me to upgrade a simple Basic program I wrote 7 years ago. > > Oliver > > >I remember a DOS program which would convert from HPGL to all sorts of > formats > >One of them was PCX. I dont remember the name but a search of a Dos > repository > >for "HPGL" should turn it up. I even think at one stage I suggested adding it > >to SUPER... Take a look at www.simtel.net. Go to the dos section and do a search on HPGL. It found 131 files. Some won't be useful to you but a number of them are converters of various kinds I also did a google search on HPGL again and found LOTs of converters on the first and second page of the results. Most were for windows or linux and I don't know if that's useful to you. But it's worth more looking. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:48:10 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: Secure Device MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob" > If set to time out, the computer turns off before the program times out, > then it stops "counting" time while the computer "sleeps" thereby not > disabling. > > Have others found this to be true? Sorry, Bob, no answer, just another question.. Bob's mail made me try secdev, and after playing and getting the hang of it, I decided to use it for real. To start I created: mkvolume c:\filename and I played with it, login, logout, etc fine. Now, how do I delete my first test secure drive? I suppose unhiding and deleting it, but doing attrib -r gets me: Not resetting hidden file c:\ How do I get rid of this ? TIA Etienne ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:12:27 -0500 Reply-To: cojonesdetoro@excite.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eduardo Pseudonomen Subject: Re: Secure Device Comments: To: etienne.lemaire@pandora.be In-Reply-To: <003301c27dd0$4107e060$6401a8c0@thispest> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit snip > Now, how do I delete my first test secure drive? I suppose > unhiding and deleting it, but doing > attrib -r > > gets me: > > Not resetting hidden file c:\ > > How do I get rid of this ? how about attrib -h first? or attrib -h -r ? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:56:37 -0500 Reply-To: RickRae@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Rae Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers In-Reply-To: <200210270829.g9R8TUv32394@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" (I removed "FLUFF" in the header because this certainly does pertain to LXes.) On 10/27/2002 at 10:30 AM Daniel Hertrich wrote, with much snippage: >06h11m ago Eduardo Pseudonomen wrote, with yet more snippage: > >> OBTW: Here's where it becomes semi-OT. Does the LX use torx screws? What >> size? > >...Torx-6. >You'll get them in electronic stores, I think. >Maybe a small philips screwdriver also fits, but I would not recommend >it. I think a Phillips would be tricky. However, a small regular (flat-bladed) jeweler's screwdriver works fine (sorry, I don't remember the size designation -- might have been a #2). The edges of the blade catch two opposite points of the torx "star" almost perfectly, though the blade doesn't go all the way in. It probably wouldn't fly if you had to exert a lot of torque, but LX screws aren't in that tightly in my experience. In the one instance years ago where I needed a little more "oomph" for a friend's LX, I ground the edges of a screwdriver slightly to make it a bit narrower, so it would drop more deeply into the Torx head. It worked fine after that. While I would recommend the correct tool for the job, I got along fine with a jeweler's screwdriver from a standard Radio Shack set for years until I stumbled across a local place that sold the smaller Torx screwdrivers. And the whole set cost me less than the one Torx driver. :o) Hope this is of some use to someone in a bind, Rick ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:01:35 +0100 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ulrich Allen wrote: > But there is no text in the stream which come out of my > scopemeter. Could you let us have the first 64 bytes or thereabouts? That should suffice to determine the format - my printers come from the area when handbooks were not yet unheard of. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:37:13 +0100 Reply-To: "g. van wirdum" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "g. van wirdum" Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Comments: To: Ulrich Allen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, I have no translation program for you, but I can tell you the codes a ThinkJet understands. The HP ThinkJet printer is an early 1980s device. This would not normally have IR. I wonder whether your device would expect an IR module connected to the printer via HP-IL, as one model of the ThinkJet had the HP-IL interface. In HP mode (it does have Epson or "alternate" mode as well) the ThinkJet uses a printer language which is in fact an early version of PCL, although it was just called HP mode in the early docs I have. The graphics of this is entirely row-wise raster based. This is different from HPGL, which is a vector graphics language. I actually did write some drivers and conversion programmes for the ThinkJet, as most programs using a ThinkJet driver would produce much better graphics in this HP mode. I don't say the alternate mode was not as good, but the way the proprietary ThinkJet drivers coming with these programs handled it, was just inferior (LQ - low quality?). However, I did not program this for the LX screen (the LX did not yet exist), and I have no time to do this now. It should not be too difficult though. I'll list the main escape sequences below, so you can possibly decode the output of your device. If you need more, contact me privately. Esc *r#S Sets dot density: #<=640 print region is 640 dots wide, density 96 dots per inch, both horizontally and vertically, #>640 print region 1280 dots wide, density 192 dpi horizontally, 96 vertically; Esc*rA Switch from text to graphics Esc*rB Terminates raster graphics Esc*b#W Next # bytes belong to one dot row and must be interpreted as graphics bytes: if # greater than width of print region, then excess data for this row are not printed, if # smaller, then rightmost dots on line are left blank; Graphic bytes: 8 bit each, each bit controls one dot; 0 means blank, 1 dot printed; most significant (first) bit is leftmost dot, etc. Note that in the above coding, # is a number in character format, so 640 would take 3 bytes (but 0, in one byte, would have the same effect!); that is why the terminator bytes (S and W in this case) are there. That is basically it. Printing text is done with what would now be regarded as a subset of PCL as going to laser printers as well. There may also be some Esc sequences used for page formatting etc., and these are again quite similar to what is being used in modern PCL. The strings send to the printer may also include certain HP-IL commands, if it was supposed to find the IR on HP-IL. I don't remember them, but I probably still have the HP-IL code table somewhere as well. However, you might want to start finding out whether you get Esc*b#W and then # graphics bytes before the next Esc*b#W, so you'll know you are hearing this language. The ThinkJet can also be addressed in "Alternate mode", which takes graphics bytes as column graphics, as opposed to the above row graphics. In this mode you should expect EscK## or EscL##, with each # standing for one byte instead of Esc*b#W: EscK#1#2 single density column graphics with #1 and #2 defining the binary number of graphics bytes that will be sent to the printer. For numbers above 256, #2 is most significant byte, for lower numbers #2 is 0. Esc L#1#2 double density as above. In column graphics mode, the most significant bit of a graphics data byte is the top dot of the column. In this mode, explicit line feeds must be used between rows in order to advance the paper. Hope this helps! Geert. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:53:34 +0100 Reply-To: "ganwer402@gmx.net" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Wagner Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I used a program called pmi, which is an interface to another program called printgl, some years ago; can convert hpgl and hpgl/2 to pcx, various printer formats (including Epson FX) and view it on CGA/VGA/SVGA. It was shareware and by Ravitz Software, USA. P.J. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:56:36 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Secure Device Comments: To: Etienne Lemaire MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Etienne Lemaire wrote: > Now, how do I delete my first test secure drive? You need to turn off the System, Hidden and ReadOnly bits. A quick (undocumented) way is: ATTRIB , fn.ext That's a Comma after Attrib, it causes all 4 attribute bits to be turned off. On my SecDev volume I leave them off so it gets backed up. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:56:38 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Secure Device MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bob wrote: > I've been playing with Secure Device, and seem to be running into a > problem with it on the HP200LX. > > If set to time out, the computer turns off before the program times out, > then it stops "counting" time while the computer "sleeps" thereby not > disabling. > > Have others found this to be true? I have not encountered that problem. In fact I think it isn't counting anything but comparing a saved timestamp against a current timestamp. I don't know this for a fact though. > Does anyone know if it is looking for ANY activity (keystroke) or ONLY > access to the secure device? Only Access I believe. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:15:38 +0800 Reply-To: Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Comments: To: Barry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Barry, Yes, I found lots of converters but nothing like what David mentioned. A DOS converter to black and white PCX so I can use LXPIC to view my HPGL *.plt files. Cheers, Oliver >Take a look at www.simtel.net. Go to the dos section and do a >search on HPGL. It found 131 files. Some won't be useful to you >but a number of them are converters of various kinds > >I also did a google search on HPGL again and found LOTs of >converters on the first and second page of the results. Most were >for windows or linux and I don't know if that's useful to you. But >it's worth more looking. > >Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:21:48 -0600 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: POST/LX 3.1d Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I am told that no one knows about Post/LX 3.1d. Well, the website may be one reason - it does not tell about this version. Sorry. The download post3.zip is correct as described below. If you have the license for WWW/LX version 3 than you can download Post/LX version 3.1d. It was finalized in June and released in August 2002. The entry in http://www.dasoft.com/filelist.htm#post3.zip is incorrect and should state: Post3.zip 155,424, 16 August 2002. There is no POST3.EXE. Thanks. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:53:07 -0600 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Post/LX version 3.1d - update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed FYI - there is now a post3.exe on both sites. This is a self-extracting archive of post3.zip. Thanks, avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:29:15 -0800 Reply-To: bobv@sos.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob Subject: Re: Secure Device MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the reply, Russ, logout all, of course works fine. However, I have tried a number of different combinations for automatic logout, and still have nothing that makes me happy. If I make it time out after a minute, it times out before I am done using it. If I make it 5 or 10 minutes, it never seems to time out. hmmmm. Bob --------- bob wrote: > I've been playing with Secure Device, and seem to be running into a > problem with it on the HP200LX. > > If set to time out, the computer turns off before the program times out, > then it stops "counting" time while the computer "sleeps" thereby not > disabling. > > Have others found this to be true? I have not encountered that problem. In fact I think it isn't counting anything but comparing a saved timestamp against a current timestamp. I don't know this for a fact though. > Does anyone know if it is looking for ANY activity (keystroke) or ONLY > access to the secure device? Only Access I believe. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:14:00 -0500 Reply-To: AJKind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: AJKind Subject: FA: HP100LX 32MB DS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All: I finally put my custom 32MB 100LX on ebay. it is item # 1393547519, and you can see it here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1393547519 I have some other spare bits as well, if you need something to "close the deal", ask and I may be able to provide it ;-) Cheers...Al Kind Microchemistry Lab & Proteomics Ctr, University of CT 3113 Horsebarn Rd, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA ph:(860)486-6126 eFAX:(413)826-8780 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:40:09 -0000 Reply-To: Chris Randle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Secure Device In-Reply-To: <3DBB7705.3040406@sos.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu] On > Behalf Of bob > Sent: 27 October 2002 05:18 > If set to time out, the computer turns off before the program > times out, then it stops "counting" time while the computer > "sleeps" thereby not disabling. > > Have others found this to be true? From hazy memory, yes, I remember this being the case. In the end, I disable the timeout feature because it would lull me in to a false sense of security. I made sure I always dismounted the volume when I'd finished with it. > Does anyone know if it is looking for ANY activity > (keystroke) or ONLY access to the secure device? Again, I did a few tests a long time ago and my memory may be faulty. I think it is only access to the secure volume. I still think it's a great program for the LX despite these problems. -- Chris Randle --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:55:02 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: Secure Device/Software Carousel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Eduardo and Russ; "attrib , " did the trick, or else -s has to be included. Problem solved, but I was (and still am)puzzled by: In software carousel, a) work area 1 (System Manager -548K) I terminate all programs to get to DOS, c:\ and issue: attrib -h -r filename.ext and get : Bad command or file name. b) work area 3 (MSDOS, 548K), from c:\ and: attrib -h -r filename.ext and get: Not resetting hidden file c:\filename Why isn't the file found in situation "a"?? Etienne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Brooks" To: "Etienne Lemaire" ; Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:56 PM Subject: Re: Secure Device > Etienne Lemaire wrote: > > Now, how do I delete my first test secure drive? > > You need to turn off the System, Hidden and ReadOnly bits. > A quick (undocumented) way is: ATTRIB , fn.ext > > That's a Comma after Attrib, it causes all 4 attribute bits to > be turned off. > > On my SecDev volume I leave them off so it gets backed up. > > Cheers... Russ > > DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:24:06 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Secure Device MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends 09m ....>> in the future <<.... ago Chris Randle wrote: > From hazy memory, yes, I remember this being the case. In the end, I > disable the timeout feature because it would lull me in to a false sense > of security. I made sure I always dismounted the volume when I'd > finished with it. I didn't try around with time-out at all. I only use SecDev to protect a few personal files (pins, passwords in one file and my signature for faxes in another file), and I exclusively use batch files to access them. This is the batch file I use to access the pin/password file: @echo off c:\bin\syslog "Logging into SecDev G:" f:\drivers\secdev\login g pe g:\file.txt f:\drivers\secdev\logout g c:\bin\syslog "Logging out of SecDev G:" (syslog writes messages into the system-wide "syslog" file so I am always able to see when I logged on, or when another person _tried_ to log on. ;-) file.txt is the secret file. So I am always sure to be logged out after closing the file. Maybe this helps daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:24:12 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Database / Phonebook SSL command question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mon, 28.10.02 12:32 PM +0200 Hi friends, how can I define a subset of a database or phonebook, using an SSL command for "field xy is NOT empty" Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:24:08 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Rick 12h42m ago Rick Rae wrote: > I think a Phillips would be tricky. However, a small regular (flat-bladed) > jeweler's screwdriver works fine (sorry, I don't remember the size oops - sorry - I thought a Philips screwdriver _is_ a blade screwdriver. So if it isnn't, what is it then? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:24:07 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Secure Device/Software Carousel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Russ and others, you don't have to remove the attributes to be able to back up the file. I use pkzip for my backups, and the following command line backs up all files, no matter if they are hidden, system or read-only, and when unzipping the backup, they are restored with their original flags: pkzip -rp -whs -Jhrs a:\backup_c\c.zip c:\*.* GTX daniel http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:44:35 -0600 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Database / Phonebook SSL command question In-Reply-To: <200210281323.g9SDNQv09331@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10/28/02-06:24 AM, Daniel Hertrich wrote: >Mon, 28.10.02 12:32 PM +0200 > >how can I define a subset of a database or phonebook, using an SSL >command for > >"field xy is NOT empty" use the NOT operator. NOT(if field = "") Another way: if field <> "" I used one of these IIRC successfully in a macro long ago. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:40:43 -0600 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: <200210281323.g9SDNNv09328@mail1.uits.uconn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10/28/02-06:24 AM, Daniel Hertrich wrote: >oops - sorry - I thought a Philips screwdriver _is_ a blade >screwdriver. So if it isnn't, what is it then? It is like a cross or + ... Hmmm... depending on the font : - straight, or blade + Philips * Torx (but the splat character can be depicted on the screen as 5-way, so not always true torx ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:46:56 -0500 Reply-To: cojonesdetoro@excite.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eduardo Pseudonomen Subject: IBM PC110 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You don't see these too often: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1773804263 I've heard that many LX users like these because you can boot it from a flash card and the battery life is reasonable when used that way. I think it also has instant on/off. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:51:23 -0500 Reply-To: Ulrich Allen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Allen Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Paul wrote: I used a program called pmi That sounds really promissing, Paul. I have found the program already and will give it a try. There is a documentation added which I have to read first. A lot to read. I let the list know. Uli ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:04:32 +0100 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: IBM PC110 Comments: To: cojonesdetoro@excite.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ohnoo I'm not going to buy it no no next year I said, next year I buy myself a 110, not now, I'm out of money but it's dirt cheap! About the same price as what I paid for my 700lx :) This time it's for someone else next time, probably not :) Greetz, Niels [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eduardo Pseudonomen" To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: IBM PC110 > You don't see these too often: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1773804263 > > I've heard that many LX users like these because you can boot it > from a flash card and the battery life is reasonable when used that > way. I think it also has instant on/off. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:29:44 -0500 Reply-To: Jack Skelley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jack Skelley Organization: New Jersey Devils Hockey Club Subject: Water Logged HP 200LX...the story continues... Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good Morning All: Several weeks ago I dumped a glass of seltzer water on my 200LX. I took the box apart, dried the unit and re-assembled it. When power was applied to the box it immediately went into the init routine for date/time/owner info. But no keyboard entry shows on the screen. So now the unit has sat without power for another week. I put batteries in the unit and it goes to its init screen immediately and it starts beeping like crazy as if the kbd buffer is full. The beeping stops and allows me to enter date/time/owner info and then allows me to go the the program manager. Great! All keys appear to be working except for the Esc and On/off buttons. Both these keys are in the upper corners of the keyboard. Anyway as soon as I press the on/off key no other keyboard entry is allowed but the display is still on. Anybody have any ideas as to what the issues could be at this point? Obviously the unit works but what causes the kbd to become locked out when the on/off key is pressed. Thanks for any help. Regards, Jack Skelley skelley@newjersyedevils.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:13:36 +0100 Reply-To: Ulrich Boche Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005922A7C1256C60_=" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005922A7C1256C60_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Monday, 28.10.2002 at 14:24 ZE2, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > oops - sorry - I thought a Philips screwdriver _is_ a blade > screwdriver. So if it isnn't, what is it then? > It is actually called "Phillips Recess", it is one of two designs for "Kreuzschlitz" in screws. The other one is called "Pozidriv". If you buy bits for power tools, it is a good idea to not mix them up because they don't work well interchangeably. Most of the "Spax" screws you buy in Germany have a Pozidriv recess, although those for Rigips and Fermacell are usually Phillips. Screwdrivers come almost exclusively with Phillips Recess, although I recently found and bought a Pozidriv screwdriver (but it was from the German brand Belzer and most people wouldn't want to spend the money they ask for it). The differences between PH and PZD are less critical with a manually operated screwdriver than with a power tool. Ulrich Boche --=_alternative 005922A7C1256C60_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
On Monday, 28.10.2002 at 14:24 ZE2, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
> oops - sorry - I thought a Philips screwdriver _is_ a blade
> screwdriver. So if it isnn't, what is it then?
>
It is actually called "Phillips Recess", it is one of two designs for "Kreuzschlitz"  
in screws. The other one is called "Pozidriv". If you buy bits for power tools, it
is a good idea to not mix them up because they don't work well interchangeably.

Most of the "Spax" screws you buy in Germany have a Pozidriv recess, although
those for Rigips and Fermacell are usually Phillips.

Screwdrivers come almost exclusively with Phillips Recess, although
I recently found and bought a Pozidriv screwdriver (but it was from the
German brand Belzer and most people wouldn't want to spend the
money they ask for it). The differences between PH and PZD are less
critical with a manually operated screwdriver than with a power tool.

Ulrich Boche
 --=_alternative 005922A7C1256C60_=-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:38:05 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: ANN: PDB2PHNE (phone book synchronization between LX and mobile) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mon, 28.10.02 10:12 PM +0200 Hi friends, just finished PDB2PHNE, an extended version of PDB2PHN from my PDB2X converter package. It allows to transfer the LX phone book to a cell phone using GDBIO, WWW/LX, Robot/LX and the robot script Phone.SCR. This new program version finally allows multiple phone numbers per entry to be transferred. I have it working here for an Ericsson T39m phone, I don't know if this will work with other phone brands, or even other Ericsson phones, See below for technical details. Anyone willing to test this program, please email me, I'll send out a copy for testing. I'd like to make sure it works before I publish it with the new PDB2X 2.1 package and I would like to know with which kinds of phones this works. Testing this program would probably mean deleting the entire current phone book of the phone, because phone.scr expects to find an empty phone book. Please consider this. The technical details: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Basically, the phone must allow to enter a new phone book entry in the phone memory (select that with AT+CPBS="ME") using AT+CPBW=1,"+123456789",,"Lastname, Firstname/H" where the first 1 is the phone book location number, "+123456789" is the phone number and the /H behind the names is the category of the phone number, i.e. /H for home, /W for work, /O for other, /M for mobile and /F for fax. So, giving the following commands to the phone: AT+CPBW=1,"+123456789",,"Lastname, Firstname/H" AT+CPBW=2,"+987654321",,"Lastname, Firstname/W" AT+CPBW=3,"+555555555",,"Lastname, Firstname/M" would create one phone book entry in the phone's memory, which are actually three entries. Managed by the phone to appear as one entry "Lastname, Firstname" with three kinds of phone numbers: +123456789 Home +987654321 Work +555555555 Mobile For more details about the AT commands please see http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx on the bottom you will find links to the AT command sheets for various phones, the commands described above are from the T39m AT command sheet. So far for now daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:52:57 +0100 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > I thought a Philips screwdriver _is_ a blade > screwdriver. So if it isnn't, what is it then? To you it is a "Kreuzschlitzschraubendreher". I'm not sure about an alternative English term. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:55:13 +0100 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Database / Phonebook SSL command question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > how can I define a subset of a database or phonebook, using an SSL > command for Have to admit I did not try it with the HP, but what i normally use is: > " ". I hope the HP too does ASCII sort, if not ignore my unqualified remark. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:56:34 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Secure Device/Software Carousel Comments: To: Etienne Lemaire MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Etienne Lemaire wrote: > I terminate all programs to get to DOS, c:\ and issue: > > attrib -h -r filename.ext > > and get : > > Bad command or file name. It looks like D:\DOS isn't in your PATH at this time. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:05:24 +0100 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ulrich Boche wrote: > The differences between PH and PZD are less > critical with a manually operated screwdriver than with a power tool. Well if you really want to go that far into detail: Philips are very slightly wedge shaped, the much newer Pozidrivs have exactly parallel sides. Until recently it was not possible to make screws with parallel walled recesses. They are superior as of course they tend less to drive the tool out under torque. They are standardized such that pozi screws can be used with standard PH tools, though of course not as well, but not the other way round. So take care (as always). And of course always use the biggest tool size that fits, don't rely on your eyesight, always first try one size bigger than you think is the right one. Too big will simply not fit, too small will ruin both tool and screw in surprisingly short time. The last sentence applies to torx too. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:22:52 +0800 Reply-To: Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Paul, Thank you for the recommendation. Will do a google search for pmi. Oliver >Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:53:34 +0100 >From: Paul Wagner >Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? > >Hi, > >I used a program called pmi, which is an interface to another program called >printgl, some years ago; can convert hpgl and hpgl/2 to pcx, various printer >formats (including Epson FX) and view it on CGA/VGA/SVGA. It was shareware >and by Ravitz Software, USA. > >P.J. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:01:07 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers Comments: To: Axel Berger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Berger" Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers > To you it is a "Kreuzschlitzschraubendreher". I'm not sure about an > alternative English term. Would that be "Cross blade screwdriver"? bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:29:41 -0600 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers In-Reply-To: <003401c27ed7$e9eac1e0$ae2d010a@penickrh40w> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed More like a Cross Slot Screwdriver. At 10/28/02-05:01 PM, Bob Penick wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Axel Berger" >Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers > > > > To you it is a "Kreuzschlitzschraubendreher". I'm not sure about an > > alternative English term. > >Would that be "Cross blade screwdriver"? >bob > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:00:46 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Secure Device/Software Carousel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > you don't have to remove the attributes to be able to back up the file. > I use pkzip for my backups, and the following command line backs up all > files, no matter if they are hidden, system or read-only, and when > unzipping the backup, they are restored with their original flags: > > pkzip -rp -whs -Jhrs a:\backup_c\c.zip c:\*.* For speed I backup with Xcopy and it can't see files that are Hidden or System. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:00:49 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Secure Device Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > I only use SecDev to protect a few personal files (pins, passwords in > one file and my signature for faxes in another file), and I exclusively > use batch files to access them. > > This is the batch file I use to access the pin/password file: > > @echo off > c:\bin\syslog "Logging into SecDev G:" > f:\drivers\secdev\login g > pe g:\file.txt > f:\drivers\secdev\logout g > c:\bin\syslog "Logging out of SecDev G:" Daniel, I do something very similar but I still use the timeout feature. Using your BAT file as an example, suppose you start it and then while still in PE you go do something else? That whole time the contents of your SecDrv are available should someone get to your LX. With a timeout they would have access to the file being edited by PE but no other file on that logical drive after the timeout period expires. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:35:24 -0500 Reply-To: Eric Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Subject: 100/200LX Hardcase sale at sears.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As descibed at super: http://www.palmtop.net/hardcase.html The cases are just $4.99 at sears.com with some "free shipping" mail-in rebate Search for items: 965283 (small case) 965284 (large case). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:43:33 -0500 Reply-To: Eric Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Subject: Amazon Christmas/Hanukah buying...support SUPER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, Just thought I would point out that with Christmas/Hanukah coming up, please try to support the SUPER site by making your Amazon purchases through thier site (Just click on thier Amazon link on the SUPER site). Note: No one at SUPER asked me to email this, I just thought that it would be a nice gesture for all of us to try to help them out considering all they have given us over the years... SUPER Site (link is on the left hand side): http://www.palmtop.net/ Better yet, bookmark it in your browser as your permanent Amazon link... Thier Amazon link is: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/subst/home/home.html/002-7849100-8856061 Regards, Eric PS(My apologies if I spelled Hanukah wrong) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:40:48 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Secure Device MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Russ 05h32m ago Russel Brooks wrote: > Daniel, I do something very similar but I still use the timeout > feature. Using your BAT file as an example, suppose you start > it and then while still in PE you go do something else? That > whole time the contents of your SecDrv are available should > someone get to your LX. With a timeout they would have access > to the file being edited by PE but no other file on that logical > drive after the timeout period expires. Well, during the file is opened in PE, you shouldnt do anything else anyway. At least nothing which swaps RAM contents to disk, because then the secret contents would be sritten on an unencrypted part of the disk and would be easily recoverable with a disk editor. But in your case the combination of timeout and batch logout is the safest, of course. Thanks! daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:40:47 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Secure Device/Software Carousel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Russ 05h29m ago Russel Brooks wrote: > For speed I backup with Xcopy and it can't see files that are > Hidden or System. If you want speed, maybe try pkzip -e0 -rp -whs -Jhrs a:\backup_c\c.zip c:\*.* This simply copies, without compression (-e0) into the zip file. I donT know if this is as fast as xcopy, but it should almost be. Another advantage is that the backup takes less disk space than just copied contents, because only one bog file is created, not many small ones which waste cluster space and number of available allocation units. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:58:32 +0100 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, now it's my turn According to my dictionary it can be... - A crosshead screwdriver - A Cross tip screwdriver - A Phillips screwdriver :) hope this helps :D [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avi Meshar" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:29 AM Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers > More like a Cross Slot Screwdriver. > > At 10/28/02-05:01 PM, Bob Penick wrote: > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Axel Berger" > >Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers > > > > > > > To you it is a "Kreuzschlitzschraubendreher". I'm not sure about an > > > alternative English term. > > > >Would that be "Cross blade screwdriver"? > >bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:27:52 +0100 Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Joe=20Martinez=20Lopez?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Joe=20Martinez=20Lopez?= Subject: Acad Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Everybody, I'm trying to configure acad r10 into my lx. I have downloaded the last ACADLX file from S.U.P.E.R. I read somewhere that the best video graphics adapter is IBM Color/Graphics,but this choice shows the autocad command prompt in the midle of the screen. Can anybody give me any advice... Thank you _______________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Nueva versi=F3n: Webcam, voz, y mucho m=E1s =A1Gratis!=20 Desc=E1rgalo ya desde http://messenger.yahoo.es ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:52:38 +0100 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Secure Device/Software Carousel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russel Brooks wrote: > For speed I backup with Xcopy and it can't see files that are > Hidden or System. By using /? (haven't actually tried yet) I see that Win98's xcopy does transfer hidden files too. Might be worth a try, no idea if it runs under 5.0. In the same vain: Using xcopy I could make backing up all five partitions of my notebook to the games console automatic. As far as know Win98's DOS and its xcopy can preserve the long file names. Is that correct? Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:04:17 +0100 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: Fw: missing parts for my 700lx/2110 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Niels wrote: > did you recieve the belt clip and the money? I'd like to know for sure..! Your letter arrived yesterday and the money today. BTW, absolutely no need for those extra 2 question marks, but thanks anyway. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:32:19 +0100 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Sorry, was: Re: Fw: missing parts for my 700lx/2110 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Axel Berger wrote: Sorry all, this changing the "To:" fiel really is a nuisance - often I forget and then I go and do with private mail where I shouldn't. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:37:21 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Secure Device/Software Carousel Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Brooks" To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Secure Device/Software Carousel > For speed I backup with Xcopy and it can't see files that are > Hidden or System. I'm not sure this will help but there is a switch on pkzip ( -b) that tells it where to put it's temporary files. If you're backing up the LX to a fast PC and you make sure it's temporary files are on the PC, and pkzip is running on the PC, it seems like that would make it extremely fast. I haven't tried it since I don't back up that way, but it's worth trying if you do. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:55:28 -0500 Reply-To: Paul Bickford Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Bickford Subject: Eric - mail bouncing! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sorry to spam the list with a personal email, but I have no recourse. Eric ("Eric" ), mail I send to you is bouncing: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to battlequest.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied 550 ... User unknown Could you provide me with an alternate address to contact you with? Thanks! Paul. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:38:20 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: 100/200LX Hardcase sale at sears.com Comments: To: Eric MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FWIW, my local Sears had them for $3.99 last Friday. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric" Subject: 100/200LX Hardcase sale at sears.com > As descibed at super: > http://www.palmtop.net/hardcase.html > > The cases are just $4.99 at sears.com with some "free shipping" mail-in > rebate > > Search for items: > 965283 (small case) > 965284 (large case). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:51:11 -0600 Reply-To: Tim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Quick public praise for Thaddeus Computing... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm "preaching to the choir;" so I'll keep this short. Just had some minor repair work done at Thaddeus and my LX was back so fast it made my head spin! Great job guys! I figure, public accolade is the least I could do ;-) --tim PS. Trad. disclaimer: Not affil., just a happy customer. Tim Raymond ------------------------------------------- "There's always a way to do it better.... Find it!" T.A. Edison ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:55:57 -0600 Reply-To: Tim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: ABC/LX settings for 1800 mAh bttys? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Just bought a pair of 1800 mAh bttys. at Fry's Electronics (Rayovac brand, $7.49 a pair!). I'm charging them in an external charger for their first go-round, but wondered if anyone would care to share their ABC/LX settings, etc. w/ me. I haven't used the program in a long time and wondered if it was a good idea for these new "powerhouse" batteries or if it wasn't really designed for NiMH batteries and I should just charge them externally .... Any thoughts, advice, etc. are appreciated! Thanks, --tim Tim Raymond ------------------------------------------- "There's always a way to do it better.... Find it!" T.A. Edison ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:30:13 -0600 Reply-To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers In-Reply-To: <004b01c27f29$5ccd72b0$060210ac@tommy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I was translating "Kreuzschlitzschraubendreher", not giving a dictionary meaning. I hope this helps :D At 10/29/02-02:58 AM, Niels wrote: >Okay, now it's my turn > >According to my dictionary it can be... > >- A crosshead screwdriver >- A Cross tip screwdriver >- A Phillips screwdriver > >:) hope this helps :D ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:42:19 -0800 Reply-To: LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: ABC/LX settings for 1800 mAh bttys? In-Reply-To: <000301c27f74$736fb5f0$6501a8c0@gadgetbase> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I use 1800mAh "Monster" Powercells in my LX and charge them directly in the palmtop. Like some others here, I have ready access to a charger most of the day and night, and the LX sits on my desk plugged in (charging or not) or likewise on my nightstand. I get about 11-15hrs of runtime off a completed charge, which is done via ABC/LX - start charging at 2.35v - stop charging at 2.84v - stall set to 6hrs or after 16 hrs total - trickle charge is disabled. So you may get more runtime using more aggressive parameters ... I never saw the need. My charging rarely completes in one sitting, meaning I usually interrupt the charging which picks up again when I plug it in again. Usually it completes on the 2nd round (max voltage reached). - Longden > Just bought a pair of 1800 mAh bttys. at Fry's Electronics (Rayovac > brand, $7.49 a pair!). I'm charging them in an external charger for > their first go-round, but wondered if anyone would care to share their > ABC/LX settings, etc. w/ me. > > I haven't used the program in a long time and wondered if it was a > good idea for these new "powerhouse" batteries or if it wasn't really > designed for NiMH batteries and I should just charge them externally > .... > > Any thoughts, advice, etc. are appreciated! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:37:59 +0100 Reply-To: Jan Pieter Beekhuis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jan Pieter Beekhuis Subject: Re: ABC/LX settings for 1800 mAh bttys? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tim, I am using the same capacity (but German brand Ansmann). I charge them = with following settings: Start if below 2.44 v Stop at 2.97 v Stall time: 2:00 hrs or after 16:00 hrs The abc.con file looks like: ABC Configuration 64 99 5400 57600 0 If you start at 2.44 the charging fits in the 16 hours maximum of abc. = You will probably be much faster with an external charger but removing them = from the palmtop is riskier than charging inside. Give it a try! Regards, Jean-Pierre Beekhuis > --- quoted text below was written by Tim --- > Hi all, > > Just bought a pair of 1800 mAh bttys. at Fry's Electronics (Rayovac = brand, > $7.49 a pair!). I'm charging them in an external charger for their = first > go-round, but wondered if anyone would care to share their ABC/LX = settings, > etc. w/ me. > > I haven't used the program in a long time and wondered if it was a good = idea > for these new "powerhouse" batteries or if it wasn't really designed = for > NiMH batteries and I should just charge them externally .... > > Any thoughts, advice, etc. are appreciated! > > Thanks, > > --tim > > Tim Raymond > ------------------------------------------- > "There's always a way to do it better.... Find it!" T.A. Edison > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:39:33 -0500 Reply-To: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" Subject: Re: ABC/LX settings for 1800 mAh bttys? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I bought 20 of those "digicam" branded 1800MAh batteries at $1.25/each from that Ebay auction posted here a while ago. They seem pretty good. I got an Olympus digicam and have used GP brand 1800's in it and these seem comparable (GPs are supposed to be good). I can fill a 128MB card with 2MPixel pictures at highest jpg using the flash and LCD to preview pictures, dload all the pics and still not run out of juice. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Longden Loo" To: Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: Re: ABC/LX settings for 1800 mAh bttys? > I use 1800mAh "Monster" Powercells in my LX and charge them > directly in the palmtop. Like some others here, I have ready > access to a charger most of the day and night, and the LX sits on > my desk plugged in (charging or not) or likewise on my nightstand. > > I get about 11-15hrs of runtime off a completed charge, which is > done via ABC/LX > - start charging at 2.35v > - stop charging at 2.84v > - stall set to 6hrs or after 16 hrs total > - trickle charge is disabled. > > So you may get more runtime using more aggressive parameters > ... I never saw the need. My charging rarely completes in one > sitting, meaning I usually interrupt the charging which picks up > again when I plug it in again. Usually it completes on the 2nd > round (max voltage reached). > > - Longden > > > > Just bought a pair of 1800 mAh bttys. at Fry's Electronics > (Rayovac > > brand, $7.49 a pair!). I'm charging them in an external charger for > > their first go-round, but wondered if anyone would care to share their > > ABC/LX settings, etc. w/ me. > > > > I haven't used the program in a long time and wondered if it was a > > good idea for these new "powerhouse" batteries or if it wasn't really > > designed for NiMH batteries and I should just charge them externally > > .... > > > > Any thoughts, advice, etc. are appreciated! > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:52:14 +0100 Reply-To: Niels Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Niels Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's why I tried my dictionary :D [n] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avi Meshar" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:30 PM Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers > I was translating "Kreuzschlitzschraubendreher", not giving a dictionary > meaning. > > I hope this helps :D > > > > > At 10/29/02-02:58 AM, Niels wrote: > >Okay, now it's my turn > > > >According to my dictionary it can be... > > > >- A crosshead screwdriver > >- A Cross tip screwdriver > >- A Phillips screwdriver > > > >:) hope this helps :D > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:58:07 -0500 Reply-To: "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Will Lotus Magellan 2.0 Run on the 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, it will work. But because it takes over 500 KBytes of conventional memory to run Magellan, it's not the sort of thing you are likely to do under the System Manager without MaxDOS. Alan Striegel >From: Jeffrey W. Asher [mailto:jasher@IX.NETCOM.COM] >Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:06 AM > >When I try to load it I get error messages saying insufficient RAM. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:49:20 -0600 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Quick public praise for Thaddeus Computing... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Thanks Tim. I'm glad we got it back to you fast. Our primary tech, Jamie, is a farmer (here in S.E. Iowa) and is harvesting! We lose him in Spring and Fall. Fortunately, we have two "backup" techs, who had the job previously, and fill in as needed. Hal from Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:48:26 -0500 Reply-To: Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: Instant Junk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A few minutes ago I was looking at the Thaddeus site and noted a memory card I'd like to have. I casually ejected the memory card from my 200LX. It felt funny, but the card came out. I was not pleased to note that there was only about 2/5 of the door left. The card would not go all the way back in. I extracted the remaining piece of door and the spring on that side. The other 3/5 of the door is jammed between the keyboard and the pins that go into the card. The other spring is rattling around loose inside. So I dare not even turn the unit on--on the eve of a trip where I'd really like to be able to use it. Just a story for your entertainment--I know more than I want to about Torx bits (but I never bought the right size), rubber feet, and the $125 flat-rate repairs at Thaddeus. Of course I won't reject any suggestions! Mark Shields ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:01:57 +0100 Reply-To: Jan Pieter Beekhuis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jan Pieter Beekhuis Subject: Re: Will Lotus Magellan 2.0 Run on the 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TRICK If you already use KS.COM (e.g. in connection with PNS200.EXE) but not maxdos you could also create an icon in system manager with a path entry like.. c:\yourpath\ks.com \)\m/t/c:\\yourpath\\magellan.bat/ (The comments field MUST be empty. If not there will be strange results = and beeps). ..and start the application from a bat file with at the end the line: ks.com 200/\) KS will automatically terminate ALL applications (if your Palmtop has the English menu) and you have the full memory. The last entry in the bat = file tell KS to take you back to the system manager icon screen. No need to read the above if you use maxdos :) Jean-Pierre > --- quoted text below was written by Striegel, Alan --- > Yes, it will work. But because it takes over 500 KBytes of conventional > memory to run Magellan, it's not the sort of thing you are likely to do > under the System Manager without MaxDOS. > > Alan Striegel > > >From: Jeffrey W. Asher [mailto:jasher@IX.NETCOM.COM] > >Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:06 AM > > > >When I try to load it I get error messages saying insufficient RAM. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:06:11 -0600 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: FLUFF: A gala Event MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > I heard that Madonna attended and she puked in the toilet back stage. Well gang, that was me behind the awards. Rich Hall (former Palmtop Paper editor) and I gave out the awards in Hollywood ceremony in a nightclub next to the Kodak theatre, at the Pocket PC Summit, www.PocketPCSummit.com, for the best software. Rich and I wore tuxes and all and handed out the awards. Winners are announced in the Jan issue of our magazine and at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/jan03/winners.asp. Small world. And no, you heard a rumor, Madonna wasn't there. However, Rich's brother is the coroner in number 1 TV show, CSI (true story) and, though he couldn't help with the awards, we all went out to dinner the next night. Hal Goldstein Exec Editor/Publisher/CEO Pocket PC magazine, www.PocketPCmag.com Palmtop Paper Online www.PalmtopPaper.com mailto:hal@thaddeus.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:50:56 +1300 Reply-To: Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Folks, I just tried to download some icons from... http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons.pl/map ...but although another web page with the appropriate name is displayed, no download takes place. Is there something I have to do to download an icon? Cheers...Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:04:28 -0800 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: Re: Eric - mail bouncing! Comments: To: Paul Bickford In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029092655.00afd118@imap.dfci.harvard.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Paul, My mail was temporarily down today. Should be all set now. (If it happens again, just give it a day and resend) Thanks, Eric --- Paul Bickford wrote: > Sorry to spam the list with a personal email, but I > have no recourse. > > Could you provide me with an alternate address to > contact you with? > > Thanks! > > Paul. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:14:10 -0800 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: Re: Eric - mail bouncing! In-Reply-To: <20021030010428.45192.qmail@web20413.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Quick note: The following email was from Eric. I was relaying it for him to the group and accidentally cut out the part of the message regarding the relay request. Sorry for any confusion. Questor --- Questor Jones wrote: > Paul, > > My mail was temporarily down today. > > Should be all set now. > > (If it happens again, just give it a day and resend) > > Thanks, > Eric > > > --- Paul Bickford > wrote: > > Sorry to spam the list with a personal email, but > I > > have no recourse. > > > > Could you provide me with an alternate address to > > contact you with? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Paul. > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 01:28:28 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Secure Device/Software Carousel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russel Brooks" > > For speed I backup with Xcopy and it can't see files that are > > I'm not sure this will help but there is a switch on pkzip ( -b) Yes I know about "-b" and use it on my desktop. A couple of folks have responded to my comment about using Xcopy so maybe I should describe what I do and why it works "for me". I have 3 main backup BAT files; - one for running DBCHECK on my Appt & Phone dbs and archiving both the dbs and the txt output of DBCHECK into Zip file named like 'yyyymmdd'. I try to run this every day. - one does an incremental backup of C: XCOPY C:\*.* A:\BACKUP\ /S /M /V ...note "/M" I try to run this every day or two. I keep a 64Meg CF card in A: which holds this backup data along with a few other files. - the last is a full image backup done with XCOPY C:\*.* A:\%dates%\ /S /E /V ...note "/E" This is done once a week or so. The BAT file sets the DATES environment variable to today's date in form yyyymmdd. I use a 128Meg CF card for the target and usually have to delete my oldest backup directory tree to make room but it can still hold 5 or 6 full backups so I have fathers and grandfathers I can make use of. Also, once done I put the 64Meg CF back in the LX and delete the incremental backup data so the daily incremental will always build from the most recent full back. So, I take weekly full backups and daily I do an incremental backup to catch files updated since the last full one. The purpose of these backups are to protect me in case of a serious crash and also so I can easily check what a file use to look like. By using Xcopy all the files are in directories similar to their originals. Easy to find and easy to view/copy/compare/etc. I don't need to extract a file from a Zip to get to it, This works for me. It IS wasteful of disk space but that isn't a problem to me. Xcopy is fast and this is important because I usually do this at work between tasks and I don't want to wait longer than necessary for it to complete; I may need access to some piece of data like phone numbers or calendar. Cheers... Russ DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:22:39 -0500 Reply-To: Eric Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Subject: Re: New Release of j200lx (Alpha 2) Comments: To: Rodrigo Serra MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rodrigo, This looks like quite an accomplishment. I have also been working on a Java version of the GDB parser (but at a slower pace). I haven't gotten a chance to try your program yet, but the screen shots look REALLY nice. How does the filer system work? Is it a replacement for the transfile 200 program? Regards, Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rodrigo Serra" To: Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 1:07 AM Subject: New Release of j200lx (Alpha 2) > Hello!!! > > I'm release Alpha 2 version of j200lx utilities!!! > > This new version include: > - Add the rename function to the Filer library. > - FTP server add the function to rename files. > - Database support has improved. > - Database editor (DbEdit) is released with read/write, sort, columns > managment and much more. > - New Filer protocol and database format documentation. > > Please see http://j200lx.sourceforge.net/ > > I'm pleasure to help to everybody in install or other questions about > the library or utility. > > :) > > Bye > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:12:26 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Windi7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- Not strictly an HPLX question - I bought the bilingual Windi7 to test and want to send it to my daughter, but find it is somehow copy protected. There is a limitation on how many times it can be installed - in fact it seems wedded to one particular PC, so even I cannot install it on another machine! I am hoping there is a Windi7 user on the list here who can advise me on this. The documentation is not at all clear to me. The demo dos Windi7 at super runs fine on the palmtop - back on topic. TIA Tony -- #38 Hey. Don't pick up that pho+>+Abe+++f NO CARRIER. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:26:22 -0300 Reply-To: Rodrigo Serra Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rodrigo Serra Subject: Re: New Release of j200lx (Alpha 2) In-Reply-To: <000e01c27fd4$5e3ee650$99689718@workgroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eric, You can use the java rmserra.j200lx.Db package of the proyect for reading/writing GDB files. Is very ease to use. See docs. The filer system is a ftp server gateway, convert ftp request to palmtop filer request. You can use ftp client to access your palmtop connected to your pc, and you can connect from your network to your palmtop. The screenshot show ftp client embedded in Windows OS. Is a replacement for transfile 200 or other transfer program. Best Regards, Rodrigo -----Mensaje original----- De: Eric [mailto:HPLX@BattleQuest.com]=20 Enviado el: Mi=E9rcoles, 30 de Octubre de 2002 02:23 a.m. Para: Rodrigo Serra; HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Asunto: Re: New Release of j200lx (Alpha 2) Rodrigo, This looks like quite an accomplishment. I have also been working on a Java version of the GDB parser (but at a slower pace). I haven't gotten a chance to try your program yet, but the screen shots look REALLY nice. How does the filer system work? Is it a replacement for the transfile 200 program? Regards, Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rodrigo Serra" To: Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 1:07 AM Subject: New Release of j200lx (Alpha 2) > Hello!!! > > I'm release Alpha 2 version of j200lx utilities!!! > > This new version include: > - Add the rename function to the Filer library. > - FTP server add the function to rename files. > - Database support has improved. > - Database editor (DbEdit) is released with read/write, sort, columns=20 > managment and much more. > - New Filer protocol and database format documentation. > > Please see http://j200lx.sourceforge.net/ > > I'm pleasure to help to everybody in install or other questions about=20 > the library or utility. > > :) > > Bye > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:37:02 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Windi7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 01h25m ago Tony Hutchins wrote: > #38 Hey. Don't pick up that pho+>+Abe+++f NO CARRIER. Ha! How many times did that happen to me before we had DSL and my wife wanted to do a phone call. :-) Thanks Tony! daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:51:59 -0500 Reply-To: Ulrich Allen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Allen Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, if I understand you right, Axel, it has nothing to do with HPGL and therefore there is no chance to solve the problem with PrintGL? That seams to be important just to lead me not into a wrong direction. Uli ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:49:32 +1300 Reply-To: Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: Icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Roger Whitmarsh" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:50 AM >Subject: Icons >> Folks, I just tried to download some icons from... >> >> http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons.pl/map >> >> ...but although another web page with the appropriate name is >> displayed, no download takes place. >> Is there something I have to do to download an icon? >Did you click on one ot therm? >Etienne Yes I clicked on several of them. In each case another web page was loaded, completely blank except for a tiny blank rectangle in the top left corner. No download is initiated. Here's an example, it's the URL of the page displayed when I click on the icon 'archive1': http://www.palmtop.net/iconserver/icn/archive1.icn I'd appreciate it if someone else would try it and see if they get the same result. Maybe it's just me. Perhaps this collection is downloadable as a set? I couldn't find it on SUPER though. Cheers, Roger. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:01:23 -0800 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Icons In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Roger Whitmarsh wrote: > Yes I clicked on several of them. In each case another web page was > loaded, completely blank except for a tiny blank rectangle in the top > left corner. No download is initiated. Here's an example, it's the URL > of the page displayed when I click on the icon 'archive1': It sounds like your web browser has some plugin that is trying to display .icn files rather than just letting you download them like it should. If you can't find and disable the program or plugin that is doing so, you could try right-clicking on an icon and selecting "Save As..." or "Save Target As..." or whatever the option is on your browser. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:03:27 +0100 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ulrich Allen wrote: > if I understand you right, Axel, > it has nothing to do with HPGL and therefore there is > no chance to solve the problem with PrintGL? That's it. As I explained privately it is EscP, a low resolution grphic 80 by 60 dpi in a format understood by nine pin as well as 24 pin and compatible inkjet printers. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:29:29 +0100 Reply-To: "g. van wirdum" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "g. van wirdum" Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Comments: To: Ulrich Allen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I missed Axel's diagnosis, but I understand you are still trying to find out what printer language your scope talks. I tried to send the following some days ago, but it may not have found its way; excuse me for the duplicate if it did do. I have no translation program for you, but I can tell you the codes a ThinkJet understands. The HP ThinkJet printer is an early 1980s device. This would not normally have IR. I wonder whether the scope would expect an IR module connected to the printer via HP-IL. HP-IL was a then new interface specially designed for the communication between low-power PCs (such as the HP-41 and the HP-110 and Portable Plus) and peripherals, including the connection between measuring devices and printers and tape or disk drives. One model of the ThinkJet had this interface. I still have one in working condition, although I have not used it in two years. In HP mode (it does have Epson or "alternate" mode as well) the ThinkJet uses a printer language which is in fact an early version of PCL, although it was just called HP mode in the early docs I have. The graphics of this is entirely row-wise raster based. This is different from HPGL, which is a vector graphics language. I actually did write some drivers and conversion programmes for this ThinkJet mode, as some of my programs using a ThinkJet driver would produce rather poor graphics (LQ - low quality?). It should not be too difficult to write a program catching the Thinkjet input, translate it, and dump it on a screen. I'll list the main escape sequences below, so you can possibly decode the output of your scope. If you need more information, contact me privately. Esc *r#S Sets dot density: #<=640 print region is 640 dots wide, density 96 dots per inch, both horizontally and vertically, #>640 print region 1280 dots wide, density 192 dpi horizontally, 96 vertically; Esc*rA Switch from text to graphics Esc*rB Terminates raster graphics Esc*b#W Next # bytes belong to one dot row and must be interpreted as graphics bytes: if # greater than width of print region, then excess data for this row are not printed, if # smaller, then rightmost dots on line are left blank; Graphics bytes: 8 bit each, each bit controls one dot; 0 means blank, 1 dot printed; most significant (first) bit is leftmost dot, etc. Note that in the above coding, # is a number in character format, so 640 would take 3 bytes (but 0, in one byte, would have the same effect!); that is why the terminator bytes (S and W in this case) are there. That is basically it. Printing text is done with what would now be regarded as a subset of PCL as going to laser printers as well. There may also be some Esc sequences used for page formatting etc., and these are again quite similar to what is being used in modern PCL. The strings send to the printer may also include certain HP-IL commands, if it was supposed to find the IR on HP-IL. I could probably dig the HP-IL codes up for you as well, but I don't remember them (HP-IL was discontinued after a few years - frustrating!). However, you might first want to find out whether you somewhere hear Esc*b#W and then # graphics bytes before the next Esc*b#W, so you'll know you are listening to the above language. The ThinkJet "Alternate mode" (Epson) takes graphics bytes as column graphics, as opposed to the above row graphics. In this mode you should expect EscK## or EscL##, with each # standing for one byte instead of Esc*b#W: EscK#1#2 single density column graphics with #1 and #2 defining the binary number of graphics bytes that will be sent to the printer. For numbers above 256, #2 is most significant byte, for lower numbers #2 is 0. Esc L#1#2 double density as above. In column graphics mode, the most significant bit of a graphics data byte is the top dot of the column. In this mode, explicit line feeds must be used between rows in order to advance the paper. I hope this helps! Geert. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:34:10 +0100 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "g. van wirdum" wrote: > In this mode you should > expect EscK## or EscL##, with each # standing for one byte The snippet I received was actually $1b $2a $04 (Esc * 004), but that is the same and very probably understood by the thinkjet (which i do not know) too. Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:41:21 +1300 Reply-To: Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: Icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ian wrote: >It sounds like your web browser has some plugin that is trying to display >.icn files rather than just letting you download them like it should. If >you can't find and disable the program or plugin that is doing so, you >could try right-clicking on an icon and selecting "Save As..." or "Save >Target As..." or whatever the option is on your browser. Sorry to waste bandwidth folks. I tried again using Internet Exposure instead of my usual browser Netscape. Worked fine, so obviously a problem with Netscape or its setup on my PC. Thanks for all your help (yet again) Cheers, Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:41:25 +0100 Reply-To: "g. van wirdum" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "g. van wirdum" Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > $1b $2a $04 (Esc * 004) I get your point, but I don't believe my 1984 HP-ThinkJet would! The sentence was perhaps directed to a different or newer printer, or to another device, such as an interface or loop controller. Or would you incidentally have caught a graphics 1b byte, which then would not have the Esc meaning? I admit the 1b 2a chain very much looks like the beginning of a message. Geert ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:14:34 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Icons In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- 01h28m ago Roger Whitmarsh wrote: > Sorry to waste bandwidth folks. I tried again using Internet > Exposure Nice one :) -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:45:02 -0600 Reply-To: "David R. Birch" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "David R. Birch" Subject: Re: Acad Questions Comments: To: Joe Martinez Lopez MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe Martinez Lopez wrote: > > Hello Everybody, > > I'm trying to configure acad r10 into my lx. > > I have downloaded the last ACADLX file from S.U.P.E.R. > > I read somewhere that the best video graphics adapter > is IBM Color/Graphics,but this choice shows the > autocad command prompt in the midle of the screen. > > Can anybody give me any advice... > > Thank you I just rechecked my configuration, and I've got it set as IBM CGA, so that's not your problem. Did you configure the CGA according to the instructions I put in the files on S.U.P.E.R. regarding the vertical/horizontal aspect? It's supposed to be 2 to 1, because the LX screen is 640x200, rather than the 320x200 CGA standard. David R. Birch ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 04:33:52 +0100 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Fluff - Request - websites for fair reporting and embargoed news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The internet gives me 'choice' of news, an unbiased view of the world (which i download to read on my LX in leasure time). There are a few unbiased, 'politically incorrect' etc sites i know of (fredoneverything, fair.org, manumit, quackwatch, urbanlegends, skeptics), but i am sure there are others you dear list members may like to tell me about. Example - After they caught the 'sniper' all news here in France about the motives died, whereas last year`s news about school shootings went on and on about motives of the Colmbine boys. I now received news of surprising motives of the sniper. Anyone wants it, please ask privately. Dr.Nat (fighing for Freedom and the American Way) :) ... which i take as the 1st Amendment of the American Constitution ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:45:39 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Oliver Chua writes: > Any chance you remember the program or have a copy of it? I did a google > search and was not successful. I think that program may just be the proper > incentive for me to upgrade a simple Basic program I wrote 7 years ago. The name of the program is "printgl". Back in the days when autocad and all other cad cam programs could only output drawings to plotters (read that as Hp poltters), it was a godsend. It would convert the plotter file to something you could print on a printer. It is available on simtel if you search for HPGL. -- ** David Becher ** davidbATnetmedia.net.il davidbATcimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 00:03:41 -0600 Reply-To: Andrew Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Subject: Re: also interested in ACAD R10 on palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Automatic digest processor wrote: > Subject: Acad Questions > Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:27:52 +0100 > From: Joe Martinez Lopez > > Hello Everybody, > > I'm trying to configure acad r10 into my lx. > > I have downloaded the last ACADLX file from S.U.P.E.R. > > I read somewhere that the best video graphics adapter > is IBM Color/Graphics,but this choice shows the > autocad command prompt in the midle of the screen. > > Can anybody give me any advice... > Joe I'm also interested in running autoCAD on the palmtop. What pointing device are you planning on. I got a "Barbie" pen mouse with CAD in mind but haven't gotten any farther. Let us know how it works out. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:07:47 +0100 Reply-To: Axel Berger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Berger Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "g. van wirdum" wrote: > I admit the 1b 2a chain very much looks like the beginning of a message. It is one. I had the complete beginning of the output and those bytes begin the first line of graphics. I'd repost it here, but I do not know an easy way to convert binary to hex - I view it as hex in VC, but how can I save it in that format? Axel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:58:34 +0100 Reply-To: Gustavo Adolfo La Chica Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gustavo Adolfo La Chica Subject: Re: ABC/LX settings for 1800 mAh bttys? In-Reply-To: <000301c27f74$736fb5f0$6501a8c0@gadgetbase> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi A month ago I searched Technical docs about how use my NiCd charger with NiMH batteries. I found a very good explanation at Panasonic web page: http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/battery/oem/images/pdf/Panasonic_NiMH_ChargeMethods.pdf It wasn't useful for me because I don't know the physical parameters of my charger nor knowledge to deal with them. I hope it be helpful for somebody. Sincerely, Gustavo Adolfo On 29 Oct 2002, at 11:55, Tim wrote: > Hi all, > > Just bought a pair of 1800 mAh bttys. at Fry's Electronics (Rayovac brand, > $7.49 a pair!). I'm charging them in an external charger for their first > go-round, but wondered if anyone would care to share their ABC/LX settings, > etc. w/ me. > > I haven't used the program in a long time and wondered if it was a good idea > for these new "powerhouse" batteries or if it wasn't really designed for > NiMH batteries and I should just charge them externally .... > > Any thoughts, advice, etc. are appreciated! > > Thanks, > > --tim > > Tim Raymond > ------------------------------------------- > "There's always a way to do it better.... Find it!" T.A. Edison > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:29:15 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan Peichl Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Digest reply problem Comments: cc: mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Al and list, after month of frustration about the non working reply function for exploded digest messages from HPLX-L, Tony Hutchins and myself started a new debug session and finally identified the problem, thereby digging up the new POST/LX 3.1d version. Many thanks to Tony, who summarized of what happens: | Normally the HPLX-L messages, including unfinished digests are | sent using the uconn BSMTP server. | | One exception is the transmission of the finished digest. | We do not have a complete description of what happens, but | when it is sent to subscribers with a .com or .net address (or | a .nz) it is *still* sent using the uconn BSMTP server. | | However, when it is transmitted to subscribers with a .de | address, the uconn BSMTP server is not used. Instead we have | seen: mail.listserv.dfn.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a), and also | listserv.tau.ac.il used. | | The digests appear to be created once at uconn. The digests | transmitted via the uconn BSMTP are just fine, and can be | properly interpreted as multipart/digest. | | However those transmitted via other SMTP all have no trully | blank lines after the first MIME boundary. Instead each trully | blank line (a CRLF pair) has a real space inserted (CRLF space | CRLF). This causes the digest to be improperly separated by | user agents - separation itself is still of course possible, | but a trully blank line (a CRLF pair) after the abbreviated | digest headers, is necessary to distinguish these headers from | the content of each message, and this cannot be done if the | separator is CR LF BLANK CR LF, instead of CR LF CR LF. Al, is it possible for you to force all digests to be sent using the uconn BSMTP? This would be a big relief for all german digest subscribers. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:07:34 -0800 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Personal Food Analyst questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Has anyone ever looked at the DB4/QLK database used in PFA to determine its type? I'm running into some limits in PFA whereby I can enter new items, but can't subsequently edit them due to limitations in the viewing module. Therefore, I'd like to use an external database program (if possible) to make any alterations. Also, has anyone tried converting the USDA nutrient database into something useable for PFA? Or even converting it into something simply viewable on the 200LX? The database is at http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/SR15/dnload/sr15dnld.html The USDA database is available as comma-delimited text, so translation to a DB (but not .gdb due to its size) should be just a matter of some programmatic elbow grease, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel if someone out there has already done so ... but if I end up converting it to say dBase-3 format is anyone interested in getting a copy? PFA is good for monitoring your food intake, so considering how much food I eat, it's now the most heavily used app on my LX . Thanks. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:35:29 -0800 Reply-To: "COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: Re: Personal Food Analyst questions Comments: To: "Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Longden, This wheel has been partially invented. You can find the zipped file "usda.zip" at http://www.palmtop.net/hp_db.html . The zipped file contains a txt file with information about the database and 22 individual db files that each contain a category of foods. I don't know if it will work on PFA, but it will be viewable on the 200LX. Sally -----Original Message----- From: Longden Loo [mailto:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:08 AM To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Personal Food Analyst questions Also, has anyone tried converting the USDA nutrient database into something useable for PFA? Or even converting it into something simply viewable on the 200LX? The database is at http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/SR15/dnload/sr15dnld.html - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:24:25 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Visicalc on palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- Did anybody figure out the best way to run VC.COM on the palmtop? It seems to load fast if run from a:\, but needs about 560K of lower ram to work. -Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:08:52 +0800 Reply-To: Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Paul and David, Found Printgl. Nice program and very useful. Thank you all for your help. Oliver >The name of the program is "printgl". Back in the days when autocad and all >other cad cam programs could only output drawings to plotters (read that >as Hp poltters), it was a godsend. It would convert the plotter file to something >you could print on a printer. It is available on simtel if you search for HPGL. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:04:29 -0600 Reply-To: "David R. Birch" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "David R. Birch" Subject: Re: also interested in ACAD R10 on palmtop Comments: To: Andrew MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew wrote: > > Joe > I'm also interested in running autoCAD on the palmtop. > What pointing device are you planning on. > I got a "Barbie" pen mouse with CAD in mind but haven't gotten any > farther. > Let us know how it works out. > > -- > Andrew King > Ann Arbor Michigan > technology is the answer, what was the question? I've found a Cirque Easycat touchpad that works with a standard Micro$oft Mouse driver very well. David R. Birch ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml